2015-03-24, 00:44 | Link #181 |
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There are many factors when grading an anime's quality. Character design and animation is one of those factors. It's also the only real factor until we see more than just a promotional video. So when an anime has designs that turn you off it will factor into hurting the overall experience. Another problem is that there is nothing deep or profound about Vivid in the first place and it's mostly fanservice and a tournament arc. The fanservice heavily relies on the quality of character designs and the tournament relies heavily on the animation. If both are a bust Vivid watchers are going to be in for a rocky ride.
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2015-03-24, 12:38 | Link #182 |
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I don't get how a character design can ruin your overall experience. It still makes no sense whatsoever. I just never seen anyone talk about an art style ruining their overall experience or seen it in reviews nor has it affected me badly in any way in my entire life. Its not a picture here and the art style for Vivid isn't even bad at all. You say that it relies on the quality of character designs but has there ever a bad character design for any fanservice show? Please name me one show. This one isn't bad at all. Theres no such thing as bad character design. They're unique in their own way..
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2015-03-24, 17:51 | Link #184 | |
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There is such a thing as bad character design, how could their not be. I could draw a stick figure and animate it, would you approve of it? Anime is a form of art, the quality of the designs matter. They don't exclusively matter, but they do matter. Especially for series that rely heavily on eye candy. Let's compare images. The most recent Nanoha art Past Nanoha art: In the first image, Nanoha doesn't even look like an adult, she's more akin to Vivio's sister. She lacks curves and her eyes are taking up a lot of room on her face even for Nanoha design standards. Meanwhile, Vivio looks seven kinds of derpy. Their chins also look more like a pointed object than an actual chin. The second image. Look at those curves! That ass, those hips, that bust. Truly a titillating image. The faces are also very cute and well proportioned. One is good art, the other is generic art. I understand that while both images are official, they're not the exact character designs used in the anime. But it is a compare and contrast between high quality art and average art. Last edited by Alastoryagami; 2015-03-24 at 19:33. |
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2015-03-24, 18:07 | Link #185 |
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Art style while not a deciding factor can be quite influential to how the audience perceive a show. I for example had always found the storylines of One Piece quite interesting but cannot into reading the manga because the art style is so very distracting to my eyes. It prevents me from fully enjoying the story. Doesn't mean it's a bad design, it's famous and lots of people enjoy it but it simply doesn't cut it for me.
ViVid design is not bad but it feels different. If that's good or bad I'll find out while watching it. Although my main beef is with the narrative and pacing. I hope thus anime keeps some of the Nanoha spirit and doesn't try to be another Kaleid Prisma Ilya (god I hate that series).
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2015-03-24, 23:52 | Link #186 |
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You do realize that using promotional art to compare the anime art style isn't really a good method of comparison, since most of the time the promotional artwork is much, much better than the anime's?
Yes, the selected promotional art for Vivid in this comparison is a bit simplistic compared to the selected StrikerS artstyle, however this is only indicative of the art between the promotional arts themselves, and not the anime.
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As far as the anime itself goes, Vivid may have more consistent animation because it's newer and has a bigger (Probably?) budget,but I still think the character designs are far weaker than A's/StrikerS. Nanoha has always had really good character designs, what they lacked was consistency while animating them. Last edited by Alastoryagami; 2015-03-25 at 00:14. |
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2015-03-25, 12:16 | Link #188 | |
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Wow, you guys are just proving my point even more. The art style is the only thing u guys are talking about. Also, I don't know why you keep saying that its a bad sign when the character design for Vivid is inferior like its a fact. Its clearly subjective and your own opinion. You can't possibly compare two art style because they have their own appeal and they're different. I still don't understand whats you guys mean by generic art.... Last edited by FlamingMangos; 2015-03-25 at 12:30. |
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2015-03-25, 18:18 | Link #189 | |
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Warning, opinion alert below this line! _________________________________________ You can call it an opinion, but you asked what our problem is with the character designs, and we told you. Some people think K-ON designs are good, I personally think they're an abomination and are the reason a lot of modern anime have stooped to their level. I also think it's the reason Kyoani has went to crap over the past years. They were so much better back with Clannad and Kanon. Their most recent series aren't even a shadow of their former glory...And I feel the new art they use is part of the problem. Generic is when something is unoriginal to a large extent. Most artists have their own unique style, yet lately studios have been trying to mimic each other trying to make designs that sell. The Nanoha series has designs I couldn't find in any other series, yet Nanoha Vivid designs look like something PA staff or even Kyoani has done in the past. Last edited by Alastoryagami; 2015-03-25 at 18:46. |
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2015-03-25, 20:33 | Link #190 | |
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Well, yes. That's because the second image is going for sexy, while the first is going for cute. Of course the second is going to look more titillating. |
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2015-03-25, 23:33 | Link #191 | ||
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The new design does not make them look any older, and Vivid takes place four years after StrikerS. It just makes them look like entirely different people. Certainly not a good thing when you've becomes accustomed to characters looking a certain way for over ten years. Quote:
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2015-03-26, 05:44 | Link #193 | |
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Have you even watched the Nanoha series, or did you just come to troll? Or perhaps it's because you're salty that I remarked how I dislike Kyoani in its former state. Either way, I understand people exist who think K-ON is a work of art, but it's very disheartening that 7arcs is putting this series in the hands of A-1. They already made the characters look like completely different people. I suppose altering their personalities is what comes next. With that out of the way... You do realize Nanoha Vivid is more related to tits and ass than any other Nanoha series, right? The original series has a lot more than tits and ass going for it, and I can't really say the same thing about Nanoha Vivid. And here lies the problem. A-1 chose the moeblob route over the sex appeal route for a series that predominantly relies on fanservice. Quite frankly, I would be embarrassed to recommend Nanoha Vivid to someone in its current form. If it at least went the sex appeal route I could lure in the horny teenagers! Hey, they're people too. Edit: Aw shit, I forgot about all the naked lolis. I guess that explains everything. Last edited by CrowKenobi; 2015-03-26 at 23:29. Reason: You can reply to other members WITHOUT using insults (also review forum rule 1.2) |
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2015-03-26, 22:55 | Link #194 |
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Too bad Yuuno might not going to appear much.
He could have been the highest possibility of becoming Vivio's father, and Nanoha's husband but... Vivio's narration, it makes me laugh too much. I guess I was too used to Nanoha's narration. Now it is Vivio that finally earned her peaceful daily life since StirkerS, she gets to start her own story. The casting voice was too obvious for me to hear. |
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But this aside, I would also like to point out: this anime is an adaptation of the Nanoha ViVid manga, and the promotional art is doing its best to reflect the art style of the manga, which has a different character designer (and an overall "cuter look") than the original anime. There's no sense chastising the anime in particular for being truer to the source material in this case. Preferences are fine, but please adjust your expectations accordingly.
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