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Old 2015-09-05, 10:59   Link #741
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HAH, I'm more excited seeing PTSD-chan being blocked by a zombified megu-nee in the hallway, I wonder how she'll snap.

I really should pay attention to the OP and ED, I feel like I always miss like half of the episode when I skip those.
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Old 2015-09-05, 13:16   Link #742
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Old 2015-09-07, 06:35   Link #743
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Old 2015-09-07, 10:53   Link #744
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Old 2015-09-10, 07:57   Link #745
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I found some of the camera shots of this episode to be interesting as well.
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Old 2015-09-10, 09:46   Link #746
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So anime-Miki was more shocked and frustrated by Taroumaru being in danger than by Miki being bitten, huh... what a joke.

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Old 2015-09-10, 09:58   Link #747
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So anime-Miki was more shocked and frustrated by Taroumaru being in danger than by Miki being bitten, huh... what a joke.
Yeah, this adaptation is a goddamn disaster. I feel sorry for anyone who has watched up to this point and has not yet picked up the manga.
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Old 2015-09-10, 10:00   Link #748
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Oh man god, OH MYGOD. I mean I figured the part with the dog but not Kurumi. Oh my god.

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Yeah, this adaptation is a goddamn disaster.
As an anime only watcher I strongly disagree, this anime has been the best for me this season with Overlord being a close 2nd. I dont even care if the manga is different or did things differently, this anime has been stellar so far.

Also please do no post things from the manga that have not been shown in the anime...
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Old 2015-09-10, 10:19   Link #749
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As an anime only watcher I strongly disagree, this anime has been the best for me this season with Overlord being a close 2nd. I dont even care if the manga is different or did things differently, this anime has been stellar so far.
Adaptation or not, it was stupid to have Miki being more affected by the dog than Kurumi. Besides, she's losing precious time. Kurumi could turn at any moment, and then it'd probably be too late.

The anime isn't complete trash but the staff made more than a few bad decisions, especially in the last few episodes.
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Old 2015-09-10, 10:30   Link #750
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Am I the only manga reader who actually LOVES this adaptation? I sincerely doubt that I am.
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Old 2015-09-10, 10:46   Link #751
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Crap, I hope they don't make a bad end to tell anime watchers to read the manga for true end. At any rate, I'll pick up the manga after the anime but please don't make a bad end. It's just downright depressing. I'd assume here that the medicine only works on people who haven't yet been completely zombified.
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Old 2015-09-10, 11:50   Link #752
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As manga reader, I think anime version is good+fun on it own, but when compare it to the manga version, the manga version is better. Thing that I dislike are how anime version cut out some content and how anime version shuffle the order of events around. In overall, anime is telling the same story and is heading to the same direction as manga version but with some different details. Some parts are better in anime, some parts are better in manga.

Anyway, I like all extra information in anime version like [Megu-nee's life before the outbreak] and I like how anime versiion expand Megu-nee role.
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Old 2015-09-10, 11:54   Link #753
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Yeah, I also didn't liked that Miki found the death of Taromarou more terrible/tear jerking than Kurumi DIEING soon. Like get your frikking priorities straight, girl! -_____-
Seriously, Anime Miki is like <<<<<<<<<<<<< Manga Miki.

Knew that Kurumi was unable to hurt/kill Taromarou after her trauma with her senpai, still hoped she would do so but if she could kill Taromarou then she should have had a less harder time killing Megu-nee as well. So I guess killing the dog is either left to Miki (which I doubt) or Yuki.

Nice of the flashback of Kurumi and Megu-nee. Although I really wished they had used a bit more together time with Kurumi and Miki instead of Miki breaking down to mourn a dog. I own a dog myself and I will be the saddest human on earth when she died. But hell, if I had to chose between my dog and my family/friends, family and friends always comes first. Now if it were a stranger though... :P

Seem's Yuki's perfect world is more and more breaking and she becomes more and more aware of her real surroundings.
Also barricades broke down, this gonna be hard to rebuild if ever. And it makes Miki's mission even harder. If this girl stops crying and finally gets to it instead of walking in slow-mo! Geez, girl, somebody is DIEING while you're crying!!! >.<
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Old 2015-09-10, 12:14   Link #754
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Well, after last week, that really gave you a one-two punch.

As both a manga reader and anime watcher, I haven't enjoyed all the filler they've put in in some parts, but others, like the changing of Taromaru's storyline and yet having it end the same gave it a larger emotional hit than the manga did.

I really liked the foreshadowing in the beginning of her finally finishing the book and said that while it was another version, the ending with the dog was the same, telling us that Taroumaru's end would be the same as it was in the manga.

I like that they are now building up to everything becoming more and more dire as the episode went on, including the rain.

As for Miki's response to Taromaru's death, I'm not surprised at all. First, there's the fact that she knew Taromaru for longer than Kurumi, also she knows there's a possibility that the girl can be saved, while Taromaru cannot. Also, its been a long standing theme in media that the death of a beloved pet or animal in a violent way, carries more emotional weight than the death of a person in some circumstances. In movies you can kill and shoot up hundreds of human beings and no one thinks a thing of it, but you shoot the cute loyal doggy? The audience is up in arms yelling for the gunman's horrible demise.
I remember my English professor had a talk on it once, how the nature of animals can make you feel differently towards their maltreatment and death, than that of a human being. He could have long talks and discussion on the Holocaust and human misery, but the minute you talked about animal abuse, he shut the conversation down, saying it was wrong, end of story.

I'm interested in how this anime version will find its end and if we'll have a second season or not.
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Old 2015-09-10, 12:42   Link #755
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Am I the only manga reader who actually LOVES this adaptation? I sincerely doubt that I am.
Same boat here! o/

I picked up the manga after ep 5 and I in fact prefer the changes in the anime compared to the manga. Irenesharda detailed my favourite change (regarding Taroumaru) nicely and I agree with her interpretation of Miki's reaction towards Taroumaru's demise.
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Old 2015-09-10, 12:46   Link #756
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As an anime only watcher I strongly disagree, this anime has been the best for me this season with Overlord being a close 2nd. I dont even care if the manga is different or did things differently, this anime has been stellar so far.
I ask you this: what do you think about the pacing among the last 3 episodes? They built up Kurumi's visit to the basement from the start of episode 8 with a glimpse of Megu-nee in the basement, then spent most of the episode searching for a lock, after which they found important documents that would lead them to the basement. This was a prime opportunity to go straight to the content of episode 10 (like the manga), but the production threw that aside with a (anime original) "pool" episode that did functionally nothing in regards to the basement (or character development), then suddenly the topic changed to the basement again in the next episode. Even if you ignore the manga, this is thematically screwed up. They basically stuck an unrelated filler into the middle of an intense arc.

I strongly suggest you read the manga at some point. If not right now, at least after the anime ends. After reading the manga, you may still like the anime since you watched it first, but at least you'll get some perspective into what important character development was left out, what pointless things were added, and how the anime could have handled things better. What I mentioned in the first paragraph doesn't even begin to touch on what makes the anime inferior.

By the way, I thought episode 10 was good too, but it was only good because the chapter it was based on was fantastic.

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Old 2015-09-10, 13:07   Link #757
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Argh...poor Tarumarou...innocent little guy didn't know what he was getting himself into by being curious. I'm going to miss having him around their little group.

Poor Kurumi to...being the fighter in the group, it's inevitable that she'll take a hit but, unlike Tarumarou, she may be saved.
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Old 2015-09-10, 13:26   Link #758
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This was a prime opportunity to go straight to the content of episode 10 (like the manga), but the production threw that aside with a (anime original) "pool" episode that did functionally nothing in regards to the basement (or character development), then suddenly the topic changed to the basement again in the next episode. Even if you ignore the manga, this is thematically screwed up. They basically stuck an unrelated filler into the middle of an intense arc.
You aren't exactly ignoring the manga when you mention an "unrelated filler" because you don't know something is a filler unless you know the manga.
Besides obligatory fanservice (like it or not), it served at least 2 reasonable functions.
1: Calm before the storm.
2: The portable disc player which not only may be in reference to a future event in the manga, but also shadowed back nicely on Miki's relationship with Kei. Furthermore, that disc player is what 'fixed' Miki's relationship with Taroumaru who is both a valuable club member and also the only connection between Miki and Kei (aside from the player of course). And as you can see, the event plays a sginificant role in Miki's emotions we see in episode 10. Whatever you think about Miki's reaction at the end itself is a different matter altogether.

Finally, I much prefer the order of events in the anime than the manga and see no issues with the pacing. The one thing I agree with, though, is how some things were seemingly skipped. Luckily that fact doesn't make me enjoy the anime any less.
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Old 2015-09-10, 13:36   Link #759
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Miki's reaction to Taromaru's death is totally logical and natural if you see the importance he had for her. Of couse she's going to suffer and cry his death more than Kurumi's (who isn't even dead) situation. I feel the people who aren't seeing this are just mixing up the manga the anime in their heads.

We must remember that there are 3 groups of people following this anime. (1) The people that got into this series from the original work, (2) the people that got into it from the anime but also decided to read the original work later on, and (3) the anime-only watchers.

Our views about the anime will heavily depend on where we are standing. Personally I'm part of the second group, and I enjoy the anime for what it is despite liking the original work much better. Which happens to be usual situation from people from my perspective.

Whatever your position might be, I do agree that this adaption did a lot questionable changes and that could have worked much better using the original work differently even if they weren't going to faithfully follow it. But this is impossible to know for the ani-only watchers, so there's nothing to do about it.

Either way, this was a great episode. Probably because it was the episode that had the closest atmosphere to the manga and well, a lot of stuff happened after all lol. *prays they will give the anime a good closure with the remaining eps*

p.d. also yes, anime watchers please do give the manga a chance when the anime ends. you won't regret.
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Old 2015-09-10, 13:42   Link #760
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1: Calm before the storm.
The entire episode 7 (which ended on a very sweet note) and a good deal of episode 8 wasn't enough calm before the storm? Plus the heartwarming flashback with Megu-nee and the photo in episode 8 was a perfect build-up for the Megu-nee reveal had there not been a pool episode in-between. And there was another flashback with Megu-nee this episode where she cut her hair, also more great buildup that expands on episode 8's (I love the Megu-nee flashbacks in this show). The placement of the pool/water tank side-story was a thematic mess for the arc; if it had to go somewhere at all it should have been before the content of episode 8.

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2: The portable disc player which not only may be in reference to a future event in the manga, but also shadowed back nicely on Miki's relationship with Kei. Furthermore, that disc player is what 'fixed' Miki's relationship with Taroumaru who is both a valuable club member and also the only connection between Miki and Kei (aside from the player of course). And as you can see, the event plays a sginificant role in Miki's emotions we see in episode 10.
That's one small part of a largely useless episode that's not even as good SoL-wise as episode 7. You could put it anywhere in the show.

It's quite clear that whoever added the pool episode has a different idea about the balance of SoL in the anime compared to the manga. They decided to go for a more 70/30 SoL to suffering approach as opposed to the manga which is more 50/50. I don't disagree with that concept, I've seen it work beautifully before, but they are sacrificing the impact of the basement arc (as well as other parts) with some of these changes. Placement and pacing means a lot.
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