2006-06-11, 18:31 | Link #1 |
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Kira's so called newtype abilities...
OK, out of the hokeyness of Seed Destiny and with the general knowledge about Kira, he's basically a newtype. But other than the newtype flash when he launched the super DRAGOONs and ability to feel people's emotions (based on the one episode where he was on the beach), what other newtype abilities does he possess?
I know this for a fact though, he cannot use uber psychic powers a la the UC series nor has he demonstrated those close psychic links like Amuro and Lalah and others who have displayed a connection of the sort, unlike with himself and Rau/Rey/Mwu where its just a recognition. Does he even have negative reaction time or is the speed just a byproduct of him being a Coordinator? The only reason I bring this up is because whenever someone brings up Kira in a versus thread, they tend to give Kira all the Amuro like Newtype abilities. I find that farfetched, but I'm no expert on Kira myself. I'd just like to shed some light on how much of a newtype Kira really is, especially in comparison to the newtypes of the UC and AC worlds.
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2006-06-11, 18:53 | Link #2 |
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We can argue this in a couple of ways.
First: Naturals vs. Coordinators We can say that Naturals are exactly oldtypes and Coordinators can be considered newtypes Second: Seed vs. non Seed Characters that Seed are considered newtypes and all others are old type Third: Ultimate Coordinator Project Since the NT flashes happen only to those who where part of the Ultimate Coordinator Project, we can say that they are newtypes. |
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2006-06-11, 19:16 | Link #4 |
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Well it seems like Mwu's family line and their clones have this 'newtype gene' which they used on Kira as well.
How much of a 'Newtype' Kira is: 1. Kira saw Fllay when she died. 2. Used DRAGOONs, though DRAGOONs are more like computer AI aided, 3. He screamed 'Atare!' when he first launched SF's DRAGOONs
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2006-06-11, 19:25 | Link #5 | |
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Besides, didn't Shin see the ghost of Stella as well? Does that make him a newtype as well? |
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2006-06-11, 19:29 | Link #6 |
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Yes, Kira doesn't see Flay in that scene. Notice he does not respond do any of her comments and just sits in his cockpit crying and saying "Why did you have to die?!" Actually on the DVD Chapter menu for that scene (in the JP version) it says "What she wanted to tell him"
That scene was just to let us know what Flay wanted to say. Kira wasn't there at all. Also I think Shinn is passed out when he sees Stella. That's a dream or hallucination or something. Because after Stella goes away he wakes up in Luna's arms. They do have a reaction in episode 32 though when their spirits leave their MS and dance or whatever. And I am just loving how everyone is selling out and actually believing that Kira and Mu are genetically related, when that is speculation at best.
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2006-06-11, 19:40 | Link #7 |
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Soooooooooooooooo...
Kira does not have the same negative reaction time as Amuro... right? I'm also assuming Kira does not possess precognition like newtypes of the UC. Unless I'm completely wrong on that point, Kira hasn't displayed anything like Amuro and Char like so. It just seems like a lot of people come to the conclusion that since Kira is a "newtype," he has access to those abilites of the UC newtypes.
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2006-06-11, 20:03 | Link #9 |
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Okay. Kira is not a Newtype. Newtypes do not exist in the Cosmic Era. This "term" was never officially introduced ANYWHERE into any publication or media source, therefore the "fandoms" wonderful "brain" seems to insist upon the fact that the \/\/\/\/\/ thing you see means "ZOMG NEWTYPE JUST LIKE TEH UC!!!!111". Well guess what... it doesn't.
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2006-06-11, 20:12 | Link #11 |
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Hey I didn't say Kira is a newtype or I believed Kira and Mwu is related.
Though I did say Kira may have gotten genes from Mwu's dad or something, it's a speculation yes. I believed it happened? No. Even if Kira did get genes from them: Scientists are already well on the way to bring cancer immunity genes from rats or anti-freezing fish genes to humans. Humans with these genes aren't genetically related to rats or fish right? Well the last time I saw the Kira/Fllay scene was in SRW@3 and J. Seems like in those dialogues it appeared to me that they were actually talking. Since its offical that they didn't then yea, we've further disproved the theory that Kira is a 'newtype'.
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So fast that they had to completely rework the MS with magnetic coating to allow its joints and movement to keep up (and in the case of 0080 build an entirely new mobile suit specifically for him to be able to handle it).
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2006-06-11, 20:25 | Link #13 |
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Thank you very much for disproving the fact he's a so-called "newtype." Because to me it never made sense that he was called a newtype other than the fact he had some random "flash." It's just rather dumb hearing sooooo many people give Kira UC newtype abilities when he's never displayed any of them, especially during versus threads where they say, "OMGZZZZORRS!!! Kira can precog a ZERO SHIFT from JEhutIE and BOOOM!!!"
I guess we can all blame Fukuda then. XD
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2006-06-11, 20:44 | Link #14 | |
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This is possible for newtypes because they have such a developed 6th sense and partial empath/telepath mind-reading of their opponent. The effect is that a Newtype pilot could dodge an enemy missile before it is fired. Even more uniquely, it makes it possible to dodge laser fire or other speed-of-light weapons. (When two Newtypes fight each other, the effects cancel out.)
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Zeques managed to react faster than the tallgeesse could respond, he isn't a newtype or anything |
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