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2017-03-13, 11:18 | Link #208 | |
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We are getting a little to off topic
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2017-03-15, 06:06 | Link #212 |
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None of this northern wasteland stuff makes any sense to begin with, why isn't Heldalf at Artorius' Throne, where he was in the game, and where Maotelus is?
But given that they did go there, what Harbringer said is probably correct. Anime keeps getting weirder. I think at this point I've gotten what I wanted from it, which is some nice visual world-building, more depth to some characters, and some fan service. I'm not really into the story revisionism that they're trying to pull. There's a lot of structural problems with how they're telling the anime story and there doesn't seem to be any point to the retcons that have been made. Like why does Symonne die and Dezel survive? Why have Symonne at all when she never did anything and didn't offer any story exposition? Why introduce the storyteller, the second celestial record, and then not tell the story of past events? Why introduce Edna's brother and then ignore him? Why have Lunarre? Since they didn't have the time to explore everything in the anime, it would've made more sense to cut some things instead of keeping them in as a shallow tease. After all, they don't seem to have qualms about making retcons.
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Unless they intend to pull a Cour3, the story is really heading to a very incomplete ending point, taking into account the few things from the game that were vital to make this Anime adaptation a truly complete ToZ experience. Especially when they are, at this point, throwing a nice bunch of things related to ToB.
I don't know, the fact they spent so much time on Rose and Alisha's arcs could mean that they are taking their sweet time with this story and have more to tell us. And, with the possibility of Dezel kicking the bucket next week (given the episode title), this late into Cour2, could also be an indicator of that. After all, this series is called Zestiria the X |
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I think that the anime's structural problems can be summed in one phrase, pandering. Ufotable is so busy pandering that they forgot to actually make a coherent narrative. Quote:
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2017-03-15, 18:02 | Link #216 |
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Which would be case if the anime was a financial and/or critical success but this anime has failed in both areas. The only thing that sells for the anime is the Sorey, Mikleo, and Edna merchandise aka the stuff that was already selling. Not only that but the fans who actually buy the merchandise aren't fond of the anime. The people who were crying about Alisha and like the anime are also the people who don't support Bamco or Zestiria, they already re-released the game half a year ago in Japan on the PS4, and it outsold season 1 despite the bad press surrounding it. There's no incentive for them to care about it, and they haven't.
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2017-03-16, 11:15 | Link #217 |
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It would take them much less work to churn out a mediocre remake then to start a new title at any rate.Namco is known for doing this crap. Incentive doesn't matter much to them I just don't think they have any brains and would do it out of sheer stupidity. In any case I will laugh if a ported remake is announced for nintendo switch at E3 later this year.
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2017-03-16, 20:08 | Link #218 |
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So you think that Bamco would want to waste money completely remaking a game to be in line with its anime, that'sounds even less successful than its game? An anime that actually isn't in line with Berseria despite its blatant references? Nevermind that from a gameplay perspective it would be pointless to have 3 characters who could armatizate since you only have 4 seraphim at a time? And are limited to 4 characters in battlefield anyway, so it would actually make the gameplay worse, when using seraphim characters? So it would pointless to add Alisha in anyway?
The thing is Bamco has only ever really re-released things that sold decently, and when they do they only add things in, they don't change the story or remove things, they only add in things in that make sense. |
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Well I consider them utterly stupid to begin with so yes I could see them sit around the board room and say "Lets port the game to nintendo switch and get in on the action of all the first adopters". I suspect the anime might end on a cliffhanger promoting it. We will see maybe with how the anime ends.
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As for any announcements at the end of the anime, Tales Fes is actually the event where Bamco makes announcements for new games, they don't do it at the end of an anime. Considering the fact that Sorey and Mikleo's VAs so if they wanted to do that then it would likely happen there. That being said I've spoken to people who have the Berseria guidebook and they say that it's more likely that there Zestiria/Berseria will have a sequel using their most popular characters, while also using the in universe ready excuse to drop the characters who've been causing trouble. |
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