Mahouka LN - Yotsuba Inheritance Arc (Volume 16) Discussion / Poll

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by Misstee

Regarding the Ichijou's bid for Miyuki, what if Gouki does not know Miyuki is an MI specialist?. As far as most know, she specializes in Freezing magic and AOE. She has never used it in public except during Scorched Halloween, none of the people who saw it talked about it to others, if they even know what it was. The Ichijou have no use for MI in their magic, just as the Youtsuba have no use for Rupture. They are looking for magic to strengthen their family line. Under that assumption Miyuki would be perfect.
Or perhaps, he is projecting his own (and seemingly other families) traditions onto the Youtsuba, with the oldest, competent son inheriting the leadership. Maybe he is thinking Miyuki is not Maya's child, not an MI user and a girl. Perhaps he thinks that the oldest competent male MI user closest to the direct headship should inherit .
I don't believe for one moment that the heads of the 10MC do not know what magic the other clans specialize in and that they don't know that most of the Youtsuba heads have been MI users.
I can just see him thinking that the only reason Maya is head (besides the fact that she is strong) is because she was rendered useless for breeding purposes and that the Youtsuba should go back to picking strong, male MI users as their clan head.

They don't know about her MI magic but knowing that she's a Yotsuba it's easy to guess IMO. That's also not important, 28 families choose arrange marriages to keep getting strong descendants, an offspring of two magicians of the 28 families will always be gifted in a way.

[solhaz]

Heh. i am the wrong person to ask, I hate heart break scenes. I never really considered Ayako as a partner for tatsuya but reading that scene I wanted miyuki to disappear so Ayako would have a chance. I would say i will feel the same when honoka's turn comes.

Ahaha, now you're being unfair to Miyuki; Miyuki also loves Tatsuya as much as Ayaka n Honoka if not more. There's nothing fair about love, it's either you win or you lose; even in harem case, there's always winner and loser. Those girls have given their best trying to win Tatsuya but right now Tatsuya only has accepted Miyuki as his partner.

Now they could either move on, find new love and be happy or still trying to win Tatsuya but don't blame anyone if they get hurt in the process coz it's their own decisions.

I feel like, Maya may have a nuclear bunker under her little room with a big screen & a bucket of popcorns. Who knows? she may even watch siblings after assigning them in the same room.

Yeah it's possible, didn't Maya room has another secret room where she has that 7 sage things to spy on people? but I don't think she would use that to spy on the sibling bedroom since all 6 sage would know what she has watched too. Simple hidden camera would suffice

Maya is much more refine woman than that, she won't have a bucket of popcorn; japanese sweets and cakes suit her image better

[TrueAlchemist]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

They don't know about her MI magic but knowing that she's a Yotsuba it's easy to guess IMO. That's also not important, 28 families choose arrange marriages to keep getting strong descendants, an offspring of two magicians of the 28 families will always be gifted in a way.

It is my speculation that Yotsuba has never sent out its MI user outside of its clan based on the engagement between Koichi and Maya. I think, Maya was allowed to engage with Koichi because she is not MI user. Based on communication between two Shibatas, Maya was only exception for non-MI magician to become a clan leader. Personally, I am betting that Gouki is expecting the decline from Yotsuba unless he is willing to send his son to Yotsuba. Anyway, I am already dying for the next volume.

By the way, chapter 2's translated summary is out at the usual place.
Kuroba, Shiiba, Mashiba, Shibata, and Shizuka are moving against Maya, and they may still have plan to seal Tatsuya's power, but according to Yuuka's words from another spoilers / translated summary, Tsukuba may think Tatsuya has become too powerful to handle at this point based on Yokohama invasion. Or, maybe, Yuuka's mother knows about how dangerous Tatsuya is because she is the one who sealed Tatsuya's power through Miyuki

Originally Posted by solhaz

Yeah it's possible, didn't Maya room has another secret room where she has that 7 sage things to spy on people? but I don't think she would use that to spy on the sibling bedroom since all 6 sage would know what she has watched too. Simple hidden camera would suffice
Maya is much more refine woman than that, she won't have a bucket of popcorn; japanese sweets and cakes suit her image better

There is a small hint that Maya has this machine in her private chamber.
And, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if this woman eats fried grasshoppers for snack.

[TrueAlchemist]

For the guys who is reading or read vol.16, what role is Hayama playing with Maya's plot?
Does he know what Maya is planning, or is he simply following Maya's order?

[Armando99]

We don't really know a lot about Maya but one thing that we are sure of is that she has the most powerful magic in the clan sans Tatsuya. Hence, the clan didn't have any choice in the matter. Who was going to challenge her for the clan leadership?

I think Maya is a devious and a cunning manipulator, on a good day. She still has a soft side to her though. Hopefully, we get to see that in the future volumes.

[Jiminy]

Originally Posted by TrueAlchemist

For the guys who is reading or read vol.16, what role is Hayama playing with Maya's plot?
Does he know what Maya is planning, or is he simply following Maya's order?

It's like always. The way he speaks with her, the way he reacts to Tatsuya ... I think he knows since he seems to be more like her right hand man and a trusted adviser than a butler, or at least that's the impression I got so far. Especially because he is present in most of the major scenes in which Maya appears as far as I have seen yet. And as the one in charge for the household he takes care of the executions of her plans (order the staff to treat Tats differently, ...) But I don't think he act's independently. He performs his duties like he did in earlier volumes. How ever I'm still reading so I can't say anything for sure yet.

[amtro]

Reading the chapter 2 summary, Mitsugu went a long way from threatening Tatsuya to his face and telling him to stick to the FLT and continue making money for them under the alias Silver Taurus. To going all "it's all our fault bro, you're innocent and a victim. I apologize from the bottom of my heart" That is some serious backpedaling right there.
That said, I seriously doubt Tatsuya and Ayako might've stood a chance ever. He would've never allowed it, because he obviously detests Tatsuya.
IMO it would've been far more satisfying if Tatsuya had told them all to go screw themselves and bailed on the Yotsuba. They would be in some real trouble if Silver Taurus suddenly left FLT right when he was on the verge of revolutionizing energy production, which will rake in immense funds for the family.

[Armando99]

Isn't it amazing how he is always so polite to Tatsuya? He almost seem to have a great respect for him. Not like that little twit of a butler who's not even serving in the main house. He probably knows a lot more than any of those side family heads.

[maypayne]

Originally Posted by Armando99

Isn't it amazing how he is always so polite to Tatsuya? He almost seem to have a great respect for him. Not like that little twit of a butler who's not even serving in the main house. He probably knows a lot more than any of those side family heads.

He's a field work guy and I'm sure had many chance to see him in action. Even his own employee know how powerful Tatsuya( see before the fight with zhou).

[Jirachier]

So Mitsugu goes to Tatsuya and is like "Hi, I won't thank you for healing my arm, you're my enemy. Now don't go to the Yotsuba meeting so we can get enough time to seal your power, remove you from the military and then you can work for us at FLT and make us a lot of money, k ?"

[expertsource]

Originally Posted by Misstee

Regarding the Ichijou's bid for Miyuki, what if Gouki does not know Miyuki is an MI specialist?. As far as most know, she specializes in Freezing magic and AOE. She has never used it in public except during Scorched Halloween, none of the people who saw it talked about it to others, if they even know what it was. The Ichijou have no use for MI in their magic, just as the Youtsuba have no use for Rupture. They are looking for magic to strengthen their family line. Under that assumption Miyuki would be perfect.

has anyone asked that why they didn't questioned miyuki and tatsuya when miyuki shows off her MI magic to unseal tatsuya in front of everyone?
if they would have questioned:
i mean which sister is sealing her brother occasionally? they must be from a hidden family. MI magic? Tatsuya's unsual power under seal? if they from 10 family then only option.. hmm... yotsuba?

also military doesn't push to seal, the ones who push yotsuba

[Crazy Frog]

Originally Posted by Jirachier

So Mitsugu goes to Tatsuya and is like "Hi, I won't thank you for healing my arm, you're my enemy. Now don't go to the Yotsuba meeting so we can get enough time to seal your power, remove you from the military and then you can work for us at FLT and make us a lot of money, k ?"

And tatsuya said so sweet.. Uncle Kuroba want to become a dust?

[fujin of shadows]

Originally Posted by Crazy Frog

And tatsuya said so sweet.. Uncle Kuroba want to become a dust?

Say what you will about Mitsugu but at least we know that he cares about his children..

[tansun]

Originally Posted by Crazy Frog

And tatsuya said so sweet.. Uncle Kuroba want to become a dust?

And then the Kuroba family branch becomes fully devoted to Tatsuya end of story.

[westmax]

The only reason tatsuya is holding back is called he wants to create a world where magician are not only weapons for miyuki's sake...If not he might hv started assassinating some yotsuba hardliners or his enemies.

[amtro]

Holy crap, depending on the answer I am going to get I think it was just implied that Mitsugu's eyes went dark when he began threatening Tatsuya. There might be more to these Yotsuba folks than we know.

[TrueAlchemist]

Originally Posted by amtro

Reading the chapter 2 summary, Mitsugu went a long way from threatening Tatsuya to his face and telling him to stick to the FLT and continue making money for them under the alias Silver Taurus. To going all "it's all our fault bro, you're innocent and a victim. I apologize from the bottom of my heart" That is some serious backpedaling right there.
That said, I seriously doubt Tatsuya and Ayako might've stood a chance ever. He would've never allowed it, because he obviously detests Tatsuya.
IMO it would've been far more satisfying if Tatsuya had told them all to go screw themselves and bailed on the Yotsuba. They would be in some real trouble if Silver Taurus suddenly left FLT right when he was on the verge of revolutionizing energy production, which will rake in immense funds for the family.

If the summary does not include personal perspectives or feelings, Mitsugu is d*ck. Mitsugu is saying, I am taking away power from you and force you out of military. In this way, we can stop military aids who may save you when we change our minds and decide to kill you. By the way, you can continue making money for us (like slave) while smirking. Mitsugu may think, he is doing a favor for Tatsuya besides killing him. This guy is really ungrateful garbage. Zhou should aim his "One Horn Dog" at Mitsugu's head next time.

I am actually sensing death flags from Mitsugu and other losers (branch heads). When the first spoiler came out regarding Maya and her crazy plot, I thought, the author may have a plan to kill her next time, but it turns out, she is just too crazy to die within few volumes. So, I am betting these losers are the first to go.

Originally Posted by Armando99

Isn't it amazing how he is always so polite to Tatsuya? He almost seem to have a great respect for him. Not like that little twit of a butler who's not even serving in the main house. He probably knows a lot more than any of those side family heads.

In the past volume, Hayama is known to deal with many powerful magicians in his life, so the book says, Hayama sensed something from Tatsuya, but later it is told that he is only employee who knows the identity of Tatsuya.

Originally Posted by tansun

And then the Kuroba family branch becomes fully devoted to Tatsuya end of story.

I feel like Kuroba Mitsugu is the first to go, and rest of branch retards will follow.
I don't think, the author will build the story for Tatsuya to kill them; obviously they do not wish to harm Miyuki. But, based on their attitudes towards Tatsuya I feel like something will happen to them. And, I think, there is a reason why the author provided a new generation who is much friendly with Tatsuya. (Mainly, they are scared of him. In some way, they fear him just like their parents fear Maya.)

Originally Posted by amtro

Holy crap, depending on the answer I am going to get I think it was just implied that Mitsugu's eyes went dark when he began threatening Tatsuya. There might be more to these Yotsuba folks than we know.

It is empty threat. He got butt kicked by Zhou. And, Zhou put Mitsugu below Nakura.

[amtro]

No, I am saying that his eyes physically turned black. Think this

We know that the Yotsuba toe the line of the supernatural and their powers are anything but garden variety, but if his eyes are turning black then this implies that there is a power with very dark origins somewhere in there.

[Jiminy]

Originally Posted by amtro

... depending on the answer I am going to get ...

Answer to what question? If you mean your question from yesterday - that's answered (122/123 mainly xdhawk and aciald)

Originally Posted by Amtro

No, I am saying that his eyes physically turned black. Think this

We know that the Yotsuba toe the line of the supernatural and their powers are anything but garden variety, but if his eyes are turning black then this implies that there is a power with dark origins somewhere in there.

It's a metaphor. I don't think he activated any power. I think he had only some real bad thoughts. Maybe it hints some wickedness as a result of his fear or his character I don't know.
(Vampirecat translated it as follows: "a muddy tar-like darkness lodges in his eyes".)

[TrueAlchemist]

Originally Posted by amtro

No, I am saying that his eyes physically turned black. Think this
We know that the Yotsuba toe the line of the supernatural and their powers are anything but garden variety, but if his eyes are turning black then this implies that there is a power with very dark origins somewhere in there.

Oh I miss this part. But, I don't think, this loser has any useful eye technique.
It may be related to his power to hide in the darkness. According to vol.15, if he can hide his presence, Hayama cannot notice him even if he is standing in front of him. His eye and his hiding technique may relate to his nickname, "Darkness of Yotsuba".

Originally Posted by Jiminy

Answer to what question? If you mean your question from yesterday - that's answered (122/123 mainly xdhawk and aciald)
It's a metaphor. I don't think he activated any power. I think he had only some real bad thoughts. Maybe it hints some wickedness as a result of his fear or his character I don't know. (Vampirecat translated it as follows: "a muddy tar-like darkness lodges in his eyes".)

Maybe, Satou was watching Supernatural while writing this part. lol.
I think, I agree with Jiminy here. He was also grinning, too. So, I think, he was just scheming and technically telling Tatsuya to live in shadow with some FLT stocks that he cannot really promise to give. When Tatsuya countered Mitsugu's offer by accusing Mitsugu of buying additional time for his son, his crappy smile vanished.


By the way, why did Mitsugu call himself Tatsuya's enemy? Is he planning more than sealing Tatsuya's magic and confining him under the Yotsuba's wall?