(L) Shokugeki no Soma [Manga]

[Hiyono]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

IMHO, in terms of character growth she has more than Soma currently.

I believe that's the problem...

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by erdii

some people are complaining that there is too much megumi. well she is compting there so it is normal to show her. what do you expect the author. show erina when megumi is cooking ?

The complaints are mostly from Erina supporters... they feel extremely threatened by her, especially how Megumi is a regular with actual growths and Erina is pretty much a side character if you gauge by appearance and importance thus far.

[bones]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

The complaints are mostly from Erina supporters... they feel extremely threatened by her, especially how Megumi is a regular with actual growths and Erina is pretty much a side character if you gauge by appearance and importance thus far.

Nonsense, all Megumi is doing is reaching the level that Souma and the others are. What you call character growth is merely the author's way of equalizing Megumi to the rest of the students. Souma has been at his level for years, same for Kurokiba and the others. Which pretty much explains why a Megumi win over Kurokiba would really suck.

[Hiyono]

No no, any objection to Megumi's victory - no matter the rationale - is simply haters hating. What else could it possibly be?

[SinsI]

If bento is eaten either fresh or several hours old - shouldn't Bento contest also be judged twice? I doubt liquid nitrogen can last 5 hours...

[HayashiTakara]

Originally Posted by bones

Nonsense, all Megumi is doing is reaching the level that Souma and the others are. What you call character growth is merely the author's way of equalizing Megumi to the rest of the students. Souma has been at his level for years, same for Kurokiba and the others. Which pretty much explains why a Megumi win over Kurokiba would really suck.

I think you forgot what character growth means...

[DevilHighDxD]

Originally Posted by Nandesuto

No no, any objection to Megumi's victory - no matter the rationale - is simply haters hating. What else could it possibly be?

Character critique and plot inconsistency perhaps? That Megumi who gotten a 89 in the preliminary beaten a chef who scored 93 and implied to be even better skilled than Alice.

[Klashikari]

I see no inconsistency when it comes to cooking.
A dish served is never the same, even moreso when you compare completely different dishes like curry and ramen, and the jury is completely different as well.

In fact, the author made it clear that shokugeki result aren't clear cut (like how Soma literally made 2 judges voting for him over Hayama).
If Megumi beating Kurokiba is inconsistent (due to sheer skill/experience), then why Soma beating alice is any more logical? Alice has by far more polished skill than Soma, but that doesn't mean Soma's victory was an asspull nor a "power of friendship" either.

I don't care that much who will win, since both Megumi and Kurokiba can lead to interesting finale contestant anyway. And I already get it that Megumi is hardly the most appealing character in term of personality for most. That said, calling megumi's victory as an asspull is just impertinent in my books.

[SinsI]

Finished reading translated parts. I got the feeling that Shokugeki is like comparing apples to oranges - an absolutely idiotic competition; the only thing it is good for is publicity.
None of the good dishes is better than the other, since they are all different.

Reminds me how wine critics were presented with the same wine twice during judgment - and gave completely different evaluation.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

Character critique and plot inconsistency perhaps? That Megumi who gotten a 89 in the preliminary beaten a chef who scored 93 and implied to be even better skilled than Alice.

Soma who get 93 points beat Alice who get 95 points. Your point? In fact, the dreadlock who get 91 points most likely will be Soma's biggest hurdle in this arc.

[itisjustme]

Originally Posted by SinsI

Finished reading translated parts. I got the feeling that Shokugeki is like comparing apples to oranges - an absolutely idiotic competition; the only thing it is good for is publicity.
None of the good dishes is better than the other, since they are all different.

Reminds me how wine critics were presented with the same wine twice during judgment - and gave completely different evaluation.

Wines are all different too, so are movies, music, etc, never stopped people from scoring them.

Also no one seems to have gotten my Yakitate reference, it makes me sad, you guys are missing out. :P

[DevilHighDxD]

Originally Posted by noobita

Soma who get 93 points beat Alice who get 95 points. Your point? In fact, the dreadlock who get 91 points most likely will be Soma's biggest hurdle in this arc.

Soma stand at nearer percentile from Alice than Megumi, you gonna tell me that Megumi with a difference of 6 points between her and Alice can beaten someone stronger than Alice? Also that 91 score dude will be as much as a hurdle like the Meat Girl and the girl who tried to takeover the business from Soma's business district. It a trend now with all new opponent Soma facing, all he need to do is some research and experiment to win and instantly beaten his opponent on the first try.

[Terrestrial Dream]

Originally Posted by itisjustme

Also no one seems to have gotten my Yakitate reference, it makes me sad, you guys are missing out. :P

Well Yakitate was good until certain point then it stopped focusing on the side characters and got really stale.

Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

Soma stand at nearer percentile from Alice than Megumi, you gonna tell me that Megumi with a difference of 6 points between her and Alice can beaten someone stronger than Alice? Also that 91 score dude will be as much as a hurdle like the Meat Girl and the girl who tried to takeover the business from Soma's business district. It a trend now with all new opponent Soma facing, all he need to do is some research and experiment to win and instantly beaten his opponent on the first try.

There is something called upset.
Also, Megumi is using something that she is familiar with, and well so is Kurokiba. There were reasons why last chapter was called "Port city match", both are using tools and ingredients they are familiar with, the second reason being contrast their style by giving them similar background. The author specifically gave Megumi something she excels with so that her victory could be plausible.

And Megumi has not even won yet, lets not make assumption that she will win.

[ellifeedn]

Why do you read this series?

[GreyZone]

Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

Character critique and plot inconsistency perhaps? That Megumi who gotten a 89 in the preliminary beaten a chef who scored 93 and implied to be even better skilled than Alice.

I think it was more than just implied, that the scores are not an objective measurement of cooking skills... also don't forget about the themes. Souma possibly only won his round against Alice because he got more "theme-based-points" to overcome her higher "taste-based-points". Same could happen with Megumi and Mad Dog.

EDIT: I just noticed that what I said has already been said before... that happens when one tl;dr-s

[nosaer]

a bit off topic here, but has anyone else been to the Souma wiki? I randomly saw a link to it from another wiki I was on and it already has 271 pages. a lot of them fully fleshed out. Quite impressive considering how new this manga is I think lol.

[bumbayker]

Originally Posted by ellifeedn

Why do you read this series?

Why do you ask the obvious?

[Mentar]

Since I was the one who posed the initial question: No, I don't feel "threatened", shipping-wise. I am disappointed by the lack of Erina, but since I like Alice a lot, that covers things for a while. It's just that I'm unable to follow the appeal of Megumi as a character. She started out as the barely competent moe wet noodle character that barely managed to scrape by and then got carried by the main lead for a while, building some confidence, and now she's suddenly able to defeat miracle cooks with her "feelings" cooking. Well, well...

I guess the Superman/Batman analogy does the job. All "realism" aside, my main qualms with her are that I consider her to be so predictable as a character. As someone who has a big preference for _intense_ and _(head)strong_ characters, she's the exact antithesis. Yes, one can argue that she is at least slowly getting there in baby steps, but I'd really wish that she'd develop some more individuality. Please, dear author, give her something more distinct than merely wide-eyed sweating insecurity which is suddenly overcome by "courage/feelings", leading to sufficiently competent cooking. After the fourth iteration, things get a little stale for me.

[SinsI]

BTW, anyone tried cooking any of the recipes in it? Or are they bogus?

[Sakuratsuki]

Megumi won? Please don't jump to any conclusions yet wait for the next chapter first. This is a slow-paced manga and not one who is going to end in just 3 or 4 chapters so there is a lot of room for character development.

If it was a romance story were the MC needs to get with someone then it's plausable to say Megumi very special because she gets a lot of devolpment. But Shokugeki no Soma is not like that. I compare this manga with mangas like Yakitate!! Japan who are focused on competitions and in this kind of mangas not only the MC gets a lot of attention but also other characters. And there is enough time to do it because they have like 230 chapters or more.

I have a feeling the mangaka didn't start this manga to end it just in 80 chapters. We are already at chapter 70 and there is still much story left to tell like the father of soma, the dreadlocks guy and soma hasn't reached his goal yet and much much more.