(L) Gantz

[tanuki]

Originally Posted by H2-FumoGuu

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NO! The fan service is not expendable!!

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Even after death she'd probably have a fan service future in Gantz as cover art. ;-)

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In Gantz, some ass is just too cute to waste...

[tanuki]

Originally Posted by Archaic

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Would Gantz really classify them as weak players now though? Hell, you have to admit, several of them were doing pretty damn good on their own in the previous mission, even before Kei went to help them. While they'd certainly be a lot better if they were as knowledgeable about their suits workings as Izumi, they're certainly a damn sight better than any group that's entered the Gantz room for a long time. Would Gantz really gain that much enjoyment from watching his people fail to kill their targets? Watching bunches of newbies get slaughtered over and over would be boring for him by now.

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I think the only really strong players are Izumi and Kei. With the other players like Reika or the old man being individually weak but have a sort of a 'strength in numbers' value during battle. But they are followers, not leaders. Without someone stronger to protect and lead them in their individual/collective efforts during the game, I can't see them surviving for long. I could picture Izumi or Kei materializing alone in the Gantz room and having at least some chance of completing a tough mission on their own. But if both of them didn't materialize and the rest of the team had to go it alone...I suspect very few if any would be returning alive to play the game again.

When it comes to the new players being slaughtered this boring Gantz, that's been the way the game has worked for who knows how long. Kei has lasted the longest in the current sequence of games, but look at how many new players have been eliminated during the time Kei has been playing. The attrition and turnover rate has been really high. So maybe from experience Gantz knows that there might be one strong new player out of ten, a hundred, or however many new weaker players who will be capable of getting 100 points to exit the games successfully. Uncovering that one great player will require many to die in battle, but then Gantz may accept that as a given condition to find the gold nuggets in a stream filled with common pebbles. Since being selected to join the team requires that new players already be dead, eliminating the living copy of a previously dead person in game battle just means a delay in that persons fate. The player was living on borrowed time anyway so only the method of death will change. Only by surviving game after game and then reaching 100 points would a player have a chance to really alter their fate and go on to live something like a life outside of the games. In this respect the Gantz games remind me of the gladiator games in ancient Rome. If you were a good enough fighter, survived fighting repeatedly in one battle after another, and earned enough fame and fortune along the way...you could have the opportunity to buy your own freedom.

[dreamless]

Originally Posted by Archaic

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Would Gantz really classify them as weak players now though? Hell, you have to admit, several of them were doing pretty damn good on their own in the previous mission, even before Kei went to help them. While they'd certainly be a lot better if they were as knowledgeable about their suits workings as Izumi, they're certainly a damn sight better than any group that's entered the Gantz room for a long time. Would Gantz really gain that much enjoyment from watching his people fail to kill their targets? Watching bunches of newbies get slaughtered over and over would be boring for him by now.

On a side note to the strengths of the new team, considering Gantz has been shown to be able to perform brain surgery without harming the subject with those little bombs of his.....wouldn't he be able to alter all the Gantzers brains to enable them to use those powers, maybe even fix it so they wouldn't have the side effects either? Gantz is certainly not stupid. It makes no sense for him to allow his troops to be killed off too easily. It also reduces the chances of detection greatly. Phantom psychic attacks are a much better means for the team to defend themselves with outside of missions than pulling out obvious guns and suits.

well...

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so far we still have zero concrete information about who or what Gantz is and what purpose the "Gantz missions" serve. maybe it's not really waging a war against aliens, maybe it's just some crazy psycho who enjoys watching humans die, maybe Gantz is God with some unfanthomable plans, there's really no telling how Gantz perceive the current situation with so many "strong players"

[FlyByNite]

Originally Posted by dreamless

well...

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so far we still have zero concrete information about who or what Gantz is and what purpose the "Gantz missions" serve. maybe it's not really waging a war against aliens, maybe it's just some crazy psycho who enjoys watching humans die, maybe Gantz is God with some unfanthomable plans, there's really no telling how Gantz perceive the current situation with so many "strong players"

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Man it's been 174 chapters and we really don't know anything more about Gantz then we did in the first chapter. Is anything EVER going to be revealed about it's purpose?

[Archaic]

About "weak" players

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One thing to remember about the current crop is that these people are the strongest (by the simple fact that they survived) of the strongest chosen from the group that Izumi killed. While they're certainly weak compared to Kei and Izumi, they are still a step above your average Gantz player. Though I have to wonder if the Budda mission players couldn't have taken them if only they'd been fully equipped. Initially, they probably could have, but now that these new players have actually been *training*...

Speculation for coming chapters

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Somehow, I just have a feeling that Kei, while moping about whatever it is he ends up doing now, is going to notice something in his room that he hasn't seen before. A very familiar looking small black ball....

Seriously now, given that Izumi didn't remember that he'd been in the room until Gantz prompted him, would it really be all that impossible for Kei to have been in the room before and simply not remember yet?

[tanuki]

Originally Posted by Archaic

About "weak" players

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One thing to remember about the current crop is that these people are the strongest (by the simple fact that they survived) of the strongest chosen from the group that Izumi killed. While they're certainly weak compared to Kei and Izumi, they are still a step above your average Gantz player. Though I have to wonder if the Budda mission players couldn't have taken them if only they'd been fully equipped. Initially, they probably could have, but now that these new players have actually been *training*...

Speculation for coming chapters

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Somehow, I just have a feeling that Kei, while moping about whatever it is he ends up doing now, is going to notice something in his room that he hasn't seen before. A very familiar looking small black ball....

Seriously now, given that Izumi didn't remember that he'd been in the room until Gantz prompted him, would it really be all that impossible for Kei to have been in the room before and simply not remember yet?

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I'd thought of the Budda mission players as probably being stronger too. Looking back, think the female player in that mission (one Kei got the quickie against the wall from) was one of the best female players in the game. She makes Reika look really sad by comparison in terms of combat ability...and on an aesthetic point, her breasts were bigger too. :-)

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I had thought that Izumi's preoccupation with Gantz and the room began when he ran across the web site about it and this brought to the surface some memories he had as a player (or at least a strong desire to play again). Which led Izumi to notice the odd behavior and abilities of Kei, and make the association that Kei was a current Gantz team member. But in any case, there's nothing which might exclude the possibility that Kei was a former Gantz team member who made it to 100 points, got out, and is now back in again like Izumi.

[H2-FumoGuu]

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Hold on. Kei and Izumi are definitely the most experienced Gantz players, but I would definitely rank the country bumpkin martial artist and the psychics as stronger overall characters "on paper". I don't think they'll every outshine Kei, but that's more because Kei is the hero and can't be outdone by support characters. Kei with the SUIT barely beat the martial artist in a fight. And unarmed psychics vs Izumi with a GUN was pretty close, right? Whether the storyline lets them show it or not, I'd say the martial artist and the psychics are the strongest plaeyrs right now, and they were doing pretty good against the dinos even before Kei's leadership.

[Archaic]

Originally Posted by H2-FumoGuu

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Hold on. Kei and Izumi are definitely the most experienced Gantz players, but I would definitely rank the country bumpkin martial artist and the psychics as stronger overall characters "on paper". I don't think they'll every outshine Kei, but that's more because Kei is the hero and can't be outdone by support characters. Kei with the SUIT barely beat the martial artist in a fight. And unarmed psychics vs Izumi with a GUN was pretty close, right? Whether the storyline lets them show it or not, I'd say the martial artist and the psychics are the strongest plaeyrs right now, and they were doing pretty good against the dinos even before Kei's leadership.

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The Countryside General might be good in a hand to hand fight (Debatable if he could beat the Budda team's Karate Master without suits though. Perhaps on an equal level, but if you bring Gantz level guns into play, he could be eliminated rather easy. It's fortunate for him that they've yet to come up against an enemy with a ranged attack. Even with the suit, we've got no reason to believe he could avoid the blasts. Though then again, considering some Budda players managed it, he probably could as well, but for how long, who can say?

As for the psychics, sure, they almost beat Izumi with a gun....a normal gun. You can't stop blasts from Gantz guns like that. Those Psychic attacks seem to be pretty range limited as well, and they're nowhere near as tough as the Countryside General, or even Kei. For opponents with no obvious weak point to hit, it wouldn't be impossible to overwhelm them in hand to hand before they could bring their powers into play, and if you could hit them from afar (The Budda team sniper would own these guys), they're screwed. Though, we've yet to see what effect if any the suits might have on their powers, have we? Enhance? Remove side effects? Reduce?

[gangsta905_04]

i read sumthin else=p

[R-S-W-E]

(lol most of the thread now is all in spolier tag)

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about Tae...the "order" of her elimination should be well expected...think about it, just how many Gantz battles have she been involved/related in? Three and half, "three" is for the classroom killing event , the street killing event and the battle in chapter 173 ; the "half" is for the street fight where Izume owned those vampires. Also she's Kei's girlfriend... She just know too much. and now she has taken picture of Gantzer...with all these add up, it's not surpirse to see Gantz wants her dead.

(also, i don't think Tae will make a good chapter cover fanserve girl )

Dreamless is right, we doesn't really know what is Gantz' goal till now...(i think the mangaka is just trying to make a super long addictive manga series to make $$ :fingers, so we can't argue about if it is Gantz' idea to keep/kill the weak players and stuff like that...

[ShikaShika]

Really, do we need tags when 174 has already been scanslated?

Edit: This was apparently spam, thanks for the negative rep whoever it was...

[AnimeFangirl]

I bet Gantz is going to be evil enough to send everyone off except Kei, just to make sure he doesn't interfere and try to save Tae. On the other hand it'll be fun to see Kei vs. all the other Gantzers. Either way Tae has to go, I've had enough of that boring girl.

[ShikaShika]

Nooo... she can't die, she's too cute. I really like her for some reason, maybe it's the contrast to all the other girls in Gantz.

[haunterex]

chapter 175:

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looks like kei will have to face off against the whole crew... i wonder if the others beside the 3 noobs and izumi will help kill tae-chan and kei...
and why does izumi have a sword???

[ShikaShika]

Originally Posted by haunterex

chapter 175:

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looks like kei will have to face off against the whole crew... i wonder if the others beside the 3 noobs and izumi will help kill tae-chan and kei...
and why does izumi have a sword???

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Izumi had the sword since his first mission. Hmm... here's what I got out of the dialog. Izumi tells all the others Tae is Kurono's gf. He then says something about Kurono seemingly being the target this round (as in suggesting they have to go through him). Baldy says something like Kurono has no reason to kill them (suggesting that they won't go after Tae). But Izumi doesn't really agree...

Edit: Also there are some speculations in the room (as well as from Izumi when they're all out I think) that Tae may be a disguised alien.

Take it with a grain of salt, my Japanese isn't all that. I really want a good translation though because I'm getting mixed signals about Izumi as is. At first I thought he was going to stop everyone from going after Tae (he also tried to talk to Kurono about it before he left) but then after that piece of dialog I don't know...

Either way I'm sensing that the next couple of chapters will have us wishing for the next chapter and so on...

[Veritas]

Wow.

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Well, Reika seemed upset. I bet it'll be Kurono, Reika, the old man, and a few other "good" GantZers, versus Izumi and maybe the new guys.

I bet Reika and Tae are gonna kick the bucket in this game. Sad, as I love Tae, and Reika isn't all moony and utterly useless as Kishimoto was. I just hope Izumi dies. Kill 'im, Kei.

[FlyByNite]

Originally Posted by Veritas

Wow.

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Well, Reika seemed upset. I bet it'll be Kurono, Reika, the old man, and a few other "good" GantZers, versus Izumi and maybe the new guys.

I bet Reika and Tae are gonna kick the bucket in this game. Sad, as I love Tae, and Reika isn't all moony and utterly useless as Kishimoto was. I just hope Izumi dies. Kill 'im, Kei.

I'm with you, I want to see Kei kill Izumi so bad.

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175 is really setting the table and getting your mouth wet for this upcoming battle. I don't see how Kei could beat EVERYONE though so some of them will likely side with Kei just out of feeling he kept them alive this long. Kei should have brought the Gantz-mobile with him though

[Grona]

for the new mission

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The shits going to hit the fan next chapter it seems
The question now is will Kei decide to do her in, or try and save her probly getting his head blown up in the process.

Kei verus Izumi... man how would that go I wonder. Izumi is so much bader ass than Kei, and Kei hasnt been in the game as long as Izumi was, but Kei is alot better at running away than Izumi If it's one on one, kei may manage to get a lucky shot in but he'll need two shots on Izumi because of the suit. But if Izumi uses that sword, slice and diced Kei.

personaly I think there is going to be a change in the main character We're getting way too attached to Kei, live on old man! Either that or the Gantzers split into two factions that stand with either Kei or Izumi as their leaders. I'm sure Old man, Kei's girl, and the naked girl would all stand together. Izumi could wana kill Kei, the rape treo would have their victim (naked girl) to deal with, and old man could help her out along with Kei's girl. Seems pretty evenly split o.o

[Bandersnatch]

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Well Kurono has 78 points currently so I think Tae will be saved and his point total will drop back down to zero. I do think the upcoming chapters are going to be like the buddha mission in that baldy dies, at least one of the psychics dies. Hope Reika dies, shes so dull.

[andr3y]

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you noticed that Kei got his close right, and when he got to Tae house he could hear the sounds ringing. therefore i thing he whant to get tae to see him and get her out of perimiter somehow. the question is will his head blow?
on one hand he is the main character, so it should not. in this case i have no clue how will he do....
on other hand gantz killed everybody but him, so he may just kill himnow. i mean why not????
whats the big deal, i know that he is the main character and staff, but this is manga, anything can happen, that what makes it intresting!!!