2011-05-22, 00:40 | Link #341 |
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Alright, Origami episode, and a Dragon Kid one right after.
I really liked the flashback about Edward and how he screwed up trying to do the right thing. It's strange that he'd ended up imprisoned due to murder though, since from what I've seen he accidentally killed the women, so I would have figured it would be manslaughter (or the judge didn't go easy on him because he also broke the law and used his power) Anyway, he ended up growing up into someone filled with a lot of (unreasonable) hate towards Ivan, though hopefully he might be moving on now. Really strange how Tiger ended up being more popular than someone else this episode w The fight with Lunatic this time was less impressive than the previous Bunny vs. Loony (I'm finding myself warming up to the CG) though it's interesting how he keeps eluding on the question whether he's with the Ouroboros or not. Maybe he's just crazy and just messing around with them. In any case, Bunny is likely to ignore him from now on, and Loony Judge seems to have his eye on Tiger, so expecting a clash between a traditionalist view on justice verses a 90's comics view on the issue (Captain America vs. Punisher apparently) Should be fun.I thought it was odd how a lot of those powers seem to involve stretching ...
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2011-05-22, 03:36 | Link #342 |
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Ep 8, good episode once again. This show manage to be consistent with every ep. Sunrise is really giving us a treat here.
On the episode itself, Origami’s happens to be a total wuss and being emo all the time, which is suck. I was expecting him to be badass ninja or something but turns out an emo reject. There are lots of funny moments in the ep, like the hero concepts. Barnaby is about collecting points, Tiger is about saving people, while Origami is appealing the sponsors, I was like wtf lmao. Most of the students having kind of worthless supowerpowers are amusing, kinda feel bad with Tiger to put up with all of them. Another interesting point is that the academy doesn’t seem limiting the applicants only to kids, but also open them to adults as long as they are NEXTs capable. The corporate dudes at the starts being also good guys is also refreshing (not like the evil corporation masterminding behind the scenes). Their version of justice seems supporting the idea on criminals getting fair trials and rehabilitation through imprisonment, not just blind capital punishment like deatch sentence. Finally Lunatic gets my vote as the favourite hero. His flames and outfits are just badass. His version of dark justice is also intriguing/attractive to say the least, killing criminals/murderers at bay and on sight. Interesting how this clash of ideals between him and Tiger will end in the future. Lunatic not being connected with Ouroboros will give as a third party perspective on the fights between the good guys and Ouroboros later on, heck he’ll probably ended up helping Tiger and gang later on. Next ep, how to make a baby happy, Dragon Kid style. |
2011-05-22, 05:08 | Link #343 |
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Another good episode of T&B, I like how Tiger came in to save Ivan and his friend with his super speed. He even took a hit for Bunny and cracked Lunatic's mask. The best part was the verbal clash of ideals between Kotetsu and Judge Loon. Like Arabesque quoted, it's like Cap and Punisher...very Civil War. For a moment back in ep. 7, when Tiger had Lunatic tied up as they debated it kinda looked like Batman and Joker. Anyways, next episode has the Dragon Kid. I already like her. When she went on and sniffed her finger like that in the preview...that was all I needed to see to put her on my fav list.
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2011-05-22, 07:15 | Link #345 | |
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Interesting Kotetsu didn't graduate in that school or he didn't enroll at all in any hero school. Could he had been a freelancer? We also saw a very public retired hero as commentator, Stealth Soldier. Older than Kotetsu it seems. Again Kotetsu is showing he is the mentor of the next generation. Karina and Ivan had their doubts. Tony had his insecurity. Kotetsu set them straight. Barnaby is slowly learning. I can see why Mr. Maverick hired Kotetsu to be Barnaby's partner. It is to mentor Barnaby. What would Kotetsu teach Pao Lin next week. From her profile she's a true believer like Kotetsu. The problem I see is that Kotetsu may be a great dad to everybody else his daughter on the other hand is lacking quality time with him. Those in Hero school loved him though. He'd make a great Coach when he retires. Future heroes would aim for the top. |
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2011-05-22, 07:19 | Link #346 | ||
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Firstly, we're not talking about high schooler but Karina. Karina is not an ordinary high schooler since she's an heroe. It's obvious that she's much more mature than her friend. Quote:
Btw, If Kotestu didn't graduate from this school, it's, I think, because this school didn't exist back then. I'm sure than Bison and Tiger are from an era where they were no shcools for that and where it was the beginning of heroes. For me, those two are older than the other heroes.
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2011-05-22, 09:31 | Link #347 |
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It seems that part of the Hero Academy mission plan is just helping NEXT control their powers and feel better about themselves. The Academy is nod to the Xavier Institute of Higher Learning. Not everyone there is going to become a super hero. Funny how a lot of them have absolutely useless or lame powers just like mutants in Marvel.
Origami is weak in a fight but his powers would be very useful if the heroes were to work as team. . . a super hero team. He just needs to infiltrate and rely on hand to hand in order to save the day. The background girl is probably going to become a super hero girlfriend or she may already be a hero girlfriend. She's an inside joke on the perpetual damsel in distress. When did she show up? Is she in every episode or just getting kidnapped? I didn't catch her this time. Mr. Maverick showed off his goober side. The problem wasn't Lunatic, it was his ideals... his heavy handed vigilante brand of homicidal justice. Duh. Kotetsu wouldn't go to a super hero school. He's old school. He learned his craft on the streets, beating up thugs. Anyhow, you know what would be more interest than Agnes being Kotetsu's ex? Kotetsu's ex being a super villain or a homicidal vigilante in their worlds Arkham Asylum. |
2011-05-22, 09:53 | Link #348 |
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^ Kotetsu didn’t need to go to hero school. All he needed when he’s a kid was a tv showing how Mr. Legend royally kicked several badguy’s asses and there you have it, lesson from the badass legend himself. I bet Kotetsu also replicate his Tiger cape crusader outfit from Mr. Legend.
And agree on the background girl. You know seeing the background girl showed up several times made me couldn’t help but to speculate on her role, a hero’s girlfriend? Is she actually Lunatic’s daughter or something? There’s gotta be something on her, seeing Sunrise made her appear on occationaly. Or as somebody said, not being significant at all and Sunrise is just trolling with us. This is also a wild guess, but seeing Albert Maverick, I couldn’t help but to also think he had connections with Mr. Legend, or actually being Legend himself. Yea I know it’s far fetched, but you never know... |
2011-05-22, 12:11 | Link #349 | |
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2011-05-22, 13:11 | Link #350 |
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Okay, that was without a doubt my favorite episode out of the consistently strong string of episodes so far. We got world building in showing the Hero Academy, and it's great to see how...varying the range of NEXT powers are. We got backstory and characterisation for Ivan who has always been in the background, as well as his former friend. Sure, he's a bit too negative, but at least there's something there and the end of the ep he's becoming much more optimistic, thanks to Tiger's word of advice (good job for Tiger there, not only convincing Ivan but even Barnaby at the end).
But what this episode does best is highlighting the different viewpoints and beliefs from each character about justice and being a hero. The teaching moments shows how each character thinks the most important aspect of superheroing in that world entails, and the clash of ideology between Tiger and Lunatic with their fight. Also, for a name like lunatic, he's not completely off his rockers - he at least stick to his word of killing murderers and not hero, although he's very strict in who should be killed. The Punisher comparison is apt indeed, or pretty much any anti-heroes from the 90s. It even manages to further the plot, showing Barnaby developing even further trust in Tiger (really, no goggles necessary) and learning that his lead for Ouroboros has went cold again. The action is also good, with some comedy still present (it's simple, but I lol'd at Tiger being unable to remove his sash). Really, I rate this one 10/10.
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2011-05-23, 01:04 | Link #353 |
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I think Origami power is really powerful. His power is lile Mystique's one. He can do many thing with it : Spying, killing etc...So, it's really a great power but it doesn't fit at all with this big tv show. He should be hired by some secret organization or something like that.
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2011-05-23, 10:36 | Link #357 | |
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She showed up again in the latest ep picking trash with the heroes. |
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2011-05-23, 21:17 | Link #358 | |
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Anyhow, Tiger's combat abilities should be noted. He's pretty much the only one who can lay a hand on Lunatic. |
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2011-05-23, 23:28 | Link #360 |
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Origami's power is actually very useful in the right situation. Some solid Marvel supervillains have had good careers with that type of power. SpiderMan villain Chameleon is basically identical to Origami here, IIRC, and he's given Spidey all sorts of problems.
However, it can be a tricky power for a superhero because it relies on trickery more than on facing your opponent upfront, and that might not be the image of a hero that the sponsors want to go for, lol. Origami might actually be better off as a superspy than a hero, imo. Anyway, Tiger and Bunny continues to get better and better with every passing episode. This one had some excellent world building as others have alluded to. I also like this anime's interpretation of how superpowers would play out in the real world. I think it's a pretty realistic take, actually. I like how the corporate guys behind Hero TV aren't the usual shady corporate crooks, but rather honest and reasonable businessmen. That's how they come off to me anyway. Love the philosophical conflict between Tiger and Lunatic. I actually think it's an improvement over the same sort of conflict between Spidey and the Punisher. It helps that, unlike Punisher, Lunatic has actual powers, putting him on (at least) even footing with Tiger when the two come to blows.
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