2013-07-02, 11:07 | Link #5261 | |
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And William Sirius is from USNA, thus Koichi has to connect with the USNA to verify the information that's why he talk with the USNA agent. |
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2013-07-02, 11:18 | Link #5262 | |
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I don't mean lip to lip though, Miyuki is prude enough so that a (harmless) kiss on the cheek is already an almost impossible hurdle.
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2013-07-02, 12:04 | Link #5263 | |
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Tatsuya lost his "emotions" because the portion of his brain that handled that was converted into a magic calculation area (he already had a magic calculating area, but it was completely dominated by his natural magic). As a result, he simply doesn't create new emotions. (He was left just enough to be loyal to Miyuki) They're not hidden or anything, they don't exist. HOWEVER, I believe there have been studies with the human brain that indicate that when portions of the brain get damaged that handle certain functions, over time other parts of the brain can develop to take over to handle those lost functions. Like what happens when the two hemispheres of the brain get separated and can no longer pass information to each other. In other words, it may be possible that over time, if it is necessary for him to have emotions, a different portion of Tatsuya's brain will gradually start processing emotions, and he'll start to act (more) normally. ...I did not phrase any of that clearly. |
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2013-07-02, 14:12 | Link #5264 | |
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2013-07-02, 18:56 | Link #5265 | |
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At any rate, if we were to take the pseudo-science of Index correctly, there is no such thing as overloading a brain. Given that there ARE people with photographic/eidetic memories, if you were to consider the sheer amount of data that would require over a lifetime, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say the brain could repurpose some of that near-infinite storage to handle emotion processing. |
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2013-07-02, 19:00 | Link #5266 | |
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2013-07-02, 19:02 | Link #5267 |
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What they did was insert a magic processing unit into the emotion part of his brain, making him able to use flash cast\general magic but as a result no strong emotions (they left some to make sure he doesnt turn into a super human sociopath; or was the lose of emotions a side effect, i dont know)
I'm fine with Tatsuya getting emotions i just dont want him to turn into a harem guy with no spine (because he wont know how to handle the new emotions) |
2013-07-02, 19:50 | Link #5268 | |
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2013-07-02, 19:57 | Link #5269 | |
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2013-07-02, 20:49 | Link #5270 | |
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But I still think that there's something strange about all this, I mean, why had they erased Tatsuya's memories from before the experiment? I have a theory about this: In the middle of the experiment Tatsuya's emotional state became unstable and he went berserk causing a lot of trouble, Miya and Maya judged that they created something too powerful and it would be dangerous to leave Tatsuya like that. In order to prevent the situation going out of their control in future they did somethings to prevent that: 1 - they erased his urges and so he would never go berserk again. 2 - his new "artificial magic calculation area" was too powerful and like Miyuki, Maya became a seal for one of his powers. Sealing then his "artificial magic calculation area" and so restricting his capacity to wield magic. 3 - they erased his memories about all this for him to never come to know about this power of his and try to kill Maya to retrieve his power. This all is just my speculation though. You people dont need to mind me
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2013-07-02, 21:08 | Link #5271 | |
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2013-07-02, 21:12 | Link #5272 |
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I dont remember well when but it was stated that he does not has memories of the time that he was treated as family.
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2013-07-02, 21:18 | Link #5273 | ||
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My point then, is that the brain may have the ability to use a portion that does not normally handle emotions to create those emotions for Tatsuya. Last edited by Rasen; 2013-07-02 at 21:42. |
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2013-07-02, 21:36 | Link #5274 |
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I dont think so, he lost the right to be a heir candidate of Yotsuba and was designated as a Guardian only after that the experiment failed to give him the ability to wield strong magics.
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2013-07-02, 21:46 | Link #5275 | |
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Given that it was a taboo experiment, most of the family would probably not have even considered it. Thus in their eyes, Tatsuya was "just a failure." There is no reason they would have treated him nicely either before or after the experiment. Think about it: if the family had EVER treated him with love, his mother probably would not have had to do the risky experiment in the first place. The reason she did it then, is because she and Tatsuya had little-to-nothing to lose. Last edited by Rasen; 2013-07-02 at 21:57. |
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2013-07-02, 22:03 | Link #5276 | |
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"Even if they were siblings, Tatsuya and Miyuki only started living together three years ago. In other words, they became bona fide siblings only three years ago. Before that fateful summer three years ago, even if they were living under the same roof, they practically never interacted with one another. Their current proximity was something strictly forbidden by their mother just as she denied any normal sibling interaction. Still, that may have been something decided by the Yotsuba Family. Tatsuya had no intention of sprouting any complaints on that regard. It's not like that function remained within his mental landscape. However, losing all his childhood memories about being treated like a family member was still galling, so saying that he was displeased would be right on the mark. The adolescent years were accompanied by impulsive anger, tears, falls, mistakes and other embarrassing memories if known by other family members. Yet for Tatsuya, who never enjoyed the luxury of these memories, Miyuki became a "beautiful girl one year younger than he was" by default. Since he was forced to see her in an impartial light from the onset, Tatsuya was well aware that she was a classy, beautiful young girl from the start. In spite of this, the affection that sprouted forth from the depths of his heart only identified Miyuki as a young sister. The only true emotion that dwelt in the realm of his consciousness was the familial love he bore for his sister. No memories, only affection. Occasionally, Tatsuya would ruminate that memory loss probably felt akin to this. Of course, he was also aware that he didn't qualify for that condition. It was an unconditional affection unfettered by memories of any sort. Precisely because of this, Tatsuya blindly, fiercely and desperately loved Miyuki. His other emotional impulses could not be expressed through fury or hatred. Only his love for Miyuki was truly spontaneous and absolute." Well, this part states very clearly that his memories were erased.
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2013-07-02, 22:06 | Link #5277 |
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I have no idea what the conversation is going on, but ^ is correct. The conversation between Miya and Miyuki basically came down to the fact that Tatsuya was already a failure. Well, since there's nothing to lose, let's do this awful experiment in hope that he *might* be of some use. To Miya, it worked because Tatsuya can now be royally demoted from a potential heir to a guardian in training (at that time). Great, let's now throw him into those awful training facilities for potential Yotsuba guardians (implied where he got all those torture scars).
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I see why you would read it like that, except that on closer reading it seems to be closer to my interpretation. Let's start with the most obvious one: Quote:
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2013-07-02, 22:20 | Link #5279 | |
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2013-07-02, 22:21 | Link #5280 | |
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the purpose of the experiment is to create a " True Magician " if the experiment succeed, tatsuya became a " True Magician " and qualify to be Heir Candidate of Yotsuba. |
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