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Old 2013-10-19, 16:10   Link #561
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Hard to do some things when you can't cook, though. Naotsugu showed us that attempting to cook food manually results in it being burnt to ash within seconds.
Because he put a sausage to an open flame. That was meant for light.

Nyanta, OTOH, successfully used boiling water to make tea. So I wonder if you can make boiled potato? Or use ovens? Or stove-tops?
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Old 2013-10-19, 16:28   Link #562
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And couldn't it be failure cause Naotsugu tried fry prefabricated meal instead of one created from ingredients?
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Old 2013-10-19, 16:51   Link #563
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Hard to do some things when you can't cook, though. Naotsugu showed us that attempting to cook food manually results in it being burnt to ash within seconds.
Naotsugu tried to cook a finished product. That doesn't seem to work, you need raw ingredients and avoid using the UI. Note that he was still able to sprinkle salt on his tasteless bread without it being ruined.

Subclasses do seem to grant competence to the skills in question, like Akatsuki becoming a superhuman sneaky scout even though those are hardly normal skills one could say are carried over from the regular world. I imagine being a chef is going to be a welcoming, if not lucrative profession once players get over the fact that they can't use the UI for easy meals anymore.
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Old 2013-10-19, 17:21   Link #564
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So judging from the op they will fail to rescue serera and she will join the bad guys......im getting ill feeling from this series
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Old 2013-10-19, 17:29   Link #565
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umh.... don't know. Think it will probably only be at first and later go to the rescue after being reborn.
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Old 2013-10-19, 17:30   Link #566
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So judging from the op they will fail to rescue serera and she will join the bad guys......im getting ill feeling from this series
Look again. The OP also has Nyanta and Serara flying with the party on a third griffon. I think the part you're worried about is more symbolic of the conflict between Nyanta + our heroes and these bandits over Serara.
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Old 2013-10-19, 17:38   Link #567
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Look again. The OP also has Nyanta and Serara flying with the party on a third griffon. I think the part you're worried about is more symbolic of the conflict between Nyanta + our heroes and these bandits over Serara.
From the oepneing I think Serara had a party with villain and refused to attack other players. Villain so ordered she be killed.
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Old 2013-10-19, 17:43   Link #568
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So judging from the op they will fail to rescue serera and she will join the bad guys......im getting ill feeling from this series
Lets just hope the worst didn't happened then
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Look again. The OP also has Nyanta and Serara flying with the party on a third griffon. I think the part you're worried about is more symbolic of the conflict between Nyanta + our heroes and these bandits over Serara.
Well, from what has been told by others,
Spoiler for Speculation:
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Old 2013-10-19, 17:44   Link #569
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So judging from the op they will fail to rescue serera and she will join the bad guys......im getting ill feeling from this series
A temporary setback at worst. After that, you also see her with Nyanta, the Shiroe and the rest, camping out.
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Old 2013-10-19, 17:51   Link #570
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Well, from what has been told by others,
Spoiler for Speculation:
If you look closely during Shiroe's flashback in this episode, there is a tall someone in Debauchery Tea Party whose face is hidden, but who appears to be a cat-person, and who has Nyanta's taste in clothes.
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Old 2013-10-19, 17:52   Link #571
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So what i'm guessing about subclasses is that they dont give any special skill sets but give you the "talent" in order to progress at a faster rate at those tasks than if you didnt have the subclass?
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Old 2013-10-19, 18:03   Link #572
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So what i'm guessing about subclasses is that they dont give any special skill sets but give you the "talent" in order to progress at a faster rate at those tasks than if you didnt have the subclass?
Well when it was just a game they would have been special skills. I doubt ordinary classes had a "clean" skill, for instance. Played through a computer there wouldn't have been any way for a regular non-maid character to clean a room like Serara did, because they wouldn't have had a command for it. The ability to do it, the skills to do it, would have come with the subclass. Now that it's more than just a game, you can manually do things that your character doesn't have skills for, but you don't get the benefits you would get from the skills.

To try to put it simply, the scope of the game world has expanded now that people are actually living in it. Because they have actual bodies and actual control over them, they can manually perform actions that they couldn't perform through a computer. I could stand up right now and clean my room, do laundry, sweep a floor, wash dishes, or similar such things around my house, because I'm physically here. But if I started up Skyrim on my computer I couldn't do those things because the game isn't designed to allow it.

That was the way the game used to be, when it was just a game. Now, anyone who wants to can clean, but they would be doing it like I would be cleaning around my house: just using their own physical capabilities, because they don't have any in-game skills to give them a boost. A person with a maid subclass does have specific skills for those things, and thus does get a boost to doing them. For a different class, an ordinary person could try sneaking and moving silently, but they wouldn't get the massive benefits that Akatsuki gets to doing those things through her Tracker subclass, because they don't actually have the game skills for it: they would only be as good at doing them as their own natural capabilities allowed.
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Old 2013-10-19, 18:22   Link #573
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^It didn't bother to explain in the anime since it wasn't a crucial information, but in the original game housemaids were still pretty useless, because all the things it can do could be substituted by hiring NPC maids.
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Old 2013-10-19, 18:29   Link #574
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To be even more specific, it seems that food created through the UI loses its taste. Naotsugu can salt his tasteless bread and Nyanta has figured out how to make apple tea.

You simply have to do it the old fashioned way. By hand.
So if you are culinary student, you will flourish in this world.
On the other hand, your computer programming / technician degree is now useless.. ORZ
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Old 2013-10-19, 19:19   Link #575
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episode 3 was kind of boring, just a continuation episode that doesn't really give much info other than time passed and distance has been traveled.
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Old 2013-10-19, 19:29   Link #576
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Me seeing shiroe fight the way he does it makes me wonder if he has any trump card attack, because he seems like he only does low level moves.
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Old 2013-10-19, 19:44   Link #577
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Me seeing shiroe fight the way he does it makes me wonder if he has any trump card attack, because he seems like he only does low level moves.
Define trump card. He's a support class, he's not going to whip out insane (hell, not even decent) damage.
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Old 2013-10-19, 19:46   Link #578
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episode 3 was kind of boring, just a continuation episode that doesn't really give much info other than time passed and distance has been traveled.
If that's all you got out of this episode, I really question your ability to pay attention.
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Old 2013-10-19, 20:28   Link #579
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episode 3 was kind of boring, just a continuation episode that doesn't really give much info other than time passed and distance has been traveled.
Did you not see that giant rat they fought or how this episode set up the confrontation between the gang and the "leader" of the town, or any of akatsuki's cute moments?

Also when i mean trump card i dont mean any kind of KO attack that would not be possible for enchanters, i mean some kind of mega buff that he could give his team or an Aoe attack that slows down movement of every enemy within a large radius at the cost of most of his mp. Since most of the moves we have seen him do were simple binding attacks or a increase Atk buff, and being a lv90 enchanter i'm guessing thats not the best moves he has up his sleeves.

So i guess some kind of really cool move? -feels childish-
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Old 2013-10-19, 20:57   Link #580
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Did you not see that giant rat they fought or how this episode set up the confrontation between the gang and the "leader" of the town, or any of akatsuki's cute moments?
This episode also gives us insight into Shiroe's character, a glimpse of some of Debauchery Tea Party's members, a better understanding of the declining state of society in the world since there is no oversight, a glimpse of a number of the guild leaders meeting together in an unprecidented meeting (hopefully agreeing to work together to provide some of that oversight), and a glimpse of some of the changes that have happened to the world since the new expansion has gone into effect. We also finally got a chance to meet Serara and Nyanta to get a feel for their personalities, learned that Shiroe remembered those two kids from episode 1 and is thinking of looking for them once the party gets back to Akiba, and that food ingredients still have taste, meaning that potentially decent food can actually be made in this world. And possibly many other things I'm forgetting to mention.

There is a wealth of information in this episode. To brush it off as "doesn't really give much info other than time passed and distance has been traveled" is disgraceful.
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