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Old 2017-06-17, 14:25   Link #581
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Ah Bakugo, you never cease to be entertaining. Even when he's brushing his teeth he's still raging. Though I can't completely blame him for his anger over that slight anticlimax. It was awesome seeing their two quirks clash, and despite how he sounds Bakugo is definitely not dumb. Really flashy animation for his final attack, and I'm a bit disappointed that we didn't get to see that clash with Todoroki's flames. Still, Todoroki's match with Midoriya was already the climax of the Sports Festival arc, but I'm glad they still managed to keep the action going.

Nice to see All Might in hero form in public again, its been a while. Good advice to all the winners, but ouch, poor Iida, seeing his role model big brother in that state.

Poor Todoroki's mother, she did go crazy but its a relief to see her without the crazy eyes now. And aw, Uraraka's parents are just as bubbly as she is. And forget Deku's injuries, I'm not sure Deku's mom can survive the stress from Deku's battles.

The Sports Festival arc was awesome, I'm happy that they adapted it so well. This is when this series really takes off and glad its getting a top notch anime to go with it. Looks like next week will be back to the classroom, it'll be nice to see that again after so long.
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Old 2017-06-17, 15:16   Link #582
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I really like the way Todoroki's character devloped during this arc and reached it's logical conclusion. If he want sto be a hero, the first he person he he has to save is his mother.
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Ah Bakugo, you never cease to be entertaining. Even when he's brushing his teeth he's still raging.
Now I'm reminded as to how some manga readers took to calling Baku "Captain butthurt" during this arc.
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Old 2017-06-17, 15:22   Link #583
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He's already infamous with that name. I imagine he must have killed a few heroes at least. That he failed with Ingenium (or that he didn't actually try hard enough) doesn't mean he necessarily isn't dangerous.
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He has, in fact, killed people. But a hero isn't just a person. As with All Might, a hero is a name, a symbol, a larger-than-life figure that is held up to the world. That figure can be eliminated, resulting in the "death" of that hero, even if the person who had been that hero technically survives.

By all rights that should have happened to All Might years ago. He should not have been able to return to being a hero after losing several major organs and such. But his sheer determination to maintain the symbol of peace that All Might had become made him push through beyond levels of safety and sanity anyway.
I can understand that too, but to me, only hearing about it and not really seeing it, takes away his proverbial "punch" for me. It's like hearing about the "Dread Pirate Roberts" and then never really seeing why he's so "dreaded". You know what I mean?

And as much as I can appreciate the non-literal killing of hero, it doesn't really interest me as the viewer as much. At least not yet.
Also, I'm an anime only, so I only am drawing on what I see. So, so far, despite the fact that all the manga readers seem so excited about him, all I've seen is a crazy deformed muppet man who tried to kill a hero. If it wasn't for the expectations of the manga fans bolstering him, I wouldn't be that excited about Stain.
I WAS getting excited from last week at a villain who was going to push the boundaries of the series, but then when Ingenium shows up this week "saved him at the last minute", it felt like what Stain did lost its impact for me. I don't know, It's just how I feel.
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Old 2017-06-17, 15:25   Link #584
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I can understand that too, but to me, only hearing about it and not really seeing it, takes away his proverbial "punch" for me. It's like hearing about the "Dread Pirate Roberts" and then never really seeing why he's so "dreaded". You know what I mean?

And as much as I can appreciate the non-literal killing of hero, it doesn't really interest me as the viewer as much. At least not yet.
Also, I'm an anime only, so I only am drawing on what I see. So, so far, despite the fact that all the manga readers seem so excited about him. All I've seen is a crazy deformed muppet man who tried to kill a hero. If it wasn't for the expectations of the manga fans bolstering him, I wouldn't be that excited about Stain.
Well, he's barely appeared at the moment. By all means, it's a bit early to complain in that sense, there's still time to show the danger he poses better; even though his introduction was not a literal hero killing, we know Ingenium was a powerful and respected hero so seeing him jobbing so hard is already a sign that this new guy is at least a serious threat.
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Old 2017-06-17, 15:38   Link #585
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Well, he's barely appeared at the moment. By all means, it's a bit early to complain in that sense, there's still time to show the danger he poses better; even though his introduction was not a literal hero killing, we know Ingenium was a powerful and respected hero so seeing him jobbing so hard is already a sign that this new guy is at least a serious threat.
I can understand that too, which is why I'm still interested in seeing more of what Stain can do. You do have to be careful of first impressions though. Bakago's first impression still shapes every way I see the character and its not something I can easily forgive (which is why I can't call him "awesome" like other fans do.).

I just feel like the Ingenium dying and not just "medically pulled from the jaws of death just in time" would have done a better job in this case. Although, it would have been equally as impactful, or even moreso, if when Tenya showed up, basically the doctors said he was bleeding internally or something and there was nothing they could do, and Tensei's talk with Tenya was also his death scene.
I don't know, it just makes me question if the series is willing to go there or not, or will they always back out of getting that real? You know what I mean?
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Old 2017-06-17, 17:11   Link #586
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so much feelings in this chapter, but I love it how todoroki hurt bakugou pride.
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Old 2017-06-17, 17:47   Link #587
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It really is fitting that while Bakugo gets the win it's incredibly unsatisfying . And it kind of reflects how hard the road to being #1 really is. He certainly has the hopes of reaching the top with his pure combat abilities. But he's never going to be the #1 hero with that personality. Not going to get anywhere until he can deal with his personal rage and his past behavior.

It's a fitting place for Todoroki. He was shaken up by Deku. But it doesn't mean his problems were simply resolved there and then. He needs to consider his options going forward and deal with the situation surrounding his mother. He can't really chase the top himself until he really talks it out with her and gets her out of that mental hospital.

A long road ahead for a lot of characters. Including Iida who I can understand being incredibly shaken up by his brother's injuries.
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Old 2017-06-17, 21:11   Link #588
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so much feelings in this chapter, but I love it how todoroki hurt bakugou pride.
Well, in effect Todoroki said "I'll bring out my fire for Deku, but not for you." That's pretty damn humiliating for an egomaniacal beast like Kacchan.
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Old 2017-06-17, 21:28   Link #589
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Sigh want a crap ending to that tournament but they really Hannibal up Katsuki
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Old 2017-06-17, 23:51   Link #590
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As for Todoroki's mom no wonder he hates his dad Endevour. It is bad enough he is abusive to him but what his father did to his mother amounts to rape and domestic abuse. Endevour didn't marry out of love but just to produce someone whose power can match All Might.

Bakugo could go the same path with his jealousy, envy and insecurities. That boy is a narcissist.
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Old 2017-06-18, 00:11   Link #591
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Well, in effect Todoroki said "I'll bring out my fire for Deku, but not for you." That's pretty damn humiliating for an egomaniacal beast like Kacchan.
I know, right? For him, that's among the worst of insults.
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Old 2017-06-18, 03:26   Link #592
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Well, in effect Todoroki said "I'll bring out my fire for Deku, but not for you." That's pretty damn humiliating for an egomaniacal beast like Kacchan.
Except it really was more that Deku was willing to put in the effort to make Todoroki bring his flames out, while Bakugo specifically refused to do so with his complete refusal to care about any of Todoroki's personal issues. Not that it would even cross Kacchan's mind to see it that way.
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Old 2017-06-18, 04:11   Link #593
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On thing I found interesting was how Bakago's thinking was in this episode. He's a person with quite a bit of self confidence and emotional fortitude. It take a lot to phase him emotionally.
The problem is, that he expects for others to be the same way, especially when they are fighting him. One of the reasons that annoys me a lot about Bakago is that he makes everything about him. If someone isn't fighting at their best, his first thought is that they are "underestimating him". If someone is trying to think through a problem rather than listening through his rants, he thinks they are "ignoring him" and in a way disrespecting him. For him, everything is about him, even when the person he is facing may not be even thinking about him.

So because he makes everything personal, he gets irritated very easily when someone doesn't act or think like he does. He expects everyone who faces him to be under the same mindset as him: ie. doing everything that they can to win and only focusing on winning.

But of course, that's just not always going to be the way it is. Not everyone has the same emotional fortitude as Bakago. So his line of this having nothing to do with "family circumstances or feelings" and that Todoroki should just think about winning against him, fell on deaf ears.
That kind of method has no effect on a person like Shoto. It's like when my aunt annoyingly just tells me I should just "get over" my squeamishness for gore in movies. I can't "just get over it". I know what level of violence and gore that I can take, and so watch TV and movies accordingly. I have over time gotten to know my emotional and mental limits. I know to leave the room when my siblings are watching Walking Dead or Game of Thrones, but I'm okay if someone pops in Alien.

Anyway, it's not like Bakago himself is immune to emotional trauma affecting his performance. It's just he has a different level. I think if you had him try to fight a tournament right after that loss he had against Deku in the mock villain vs hero fights, he would have probably done terribly.

But to be honest, he really just has to stop taking everything so personally and realize that not everyone is going to conform to his way of thinking just because he thinks it should be so. If I didn't know his backstory about how everyone constantly inflated his ego as a kid, I would think he had a massive chip on his shoulder.
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Old 2017-06-18, 09:27   Link #594
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I can understand that too, which is why I'm still interested in seeing more of what Stain can do. You do have to be careful of first impressions though. Bakago's first impression still shapes every way I see the character and its not something I can easily forgive (which is why I can't call him "awesome" like other fans do.).
I get that. Manga's on chapter 141, and I'm just starting to forgive him his first impression. (Anime's on ch 44.)
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Old 2017-06-18, 11:13   Link #595
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Except it really was more that Deku was willing to put in the effort to make Todoroki bring his flames out, while Bakugo specifically refused to do so with his complete refusal to care about any of Todoroki's personal issues. Not that it would even cross Kacchan's mind to see it that way.
Do you really think Kacchan is capable of making that distinction in the moment?
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Old 2017-06-18, 16:21   Link #596
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Do you really think Kacchan is capable of making that distinction in the moment?
Not right now, no. Bakugo is a smart person, but he just doesn't think in terms of other people's feelings and such. Still too self-focused.
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Old 2017-06-19, 00:46   Link #597
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As for Todoroki's mom no wonder he hates his dad Endevour. It is bad enough he is abusive to him but what his father did to his mother amounts to rape and domestic abuse. Endevour didn't marry out of love but just to produce someone whose power can match All Might.

Bakugo could go the same path with his jealousy, envy and insecurities. That boy is a narcissist.
Not sure that "narcissist" is the right word. He's certainly incredibly confident in himself (with good reason), but isn't obsessed with himself in the way that "narcissist" would imply. He can have and show respect for others, as was shown with Ochaco.
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Old 2017-06-19, 01:12   Link #598
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Not sure that "narcissist" is the right word. He's certainly incredibly confident in himself (with good reason), but isn't obsessed with himself in the way that "narcissist" would imply. He can have and show respect for others, as was shown with Ochaco.
I think the childhood flashbacks would suggest otherwise. He's incredibly narcissistic, hence his extreme reactions to losing. On top of that, he's a bully. Eh, I don't care much for him and it doesn't help everyone lets him do what he wants. I think his treatment of Uraraka was an exception, and I hope that side of him gets more exposed instead of this "die" nonsense (as humorous as straightjackets and muzzles are).
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Old 2017-06-19, 01:23   Link #599
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His treatment of Uraraka is "he remembered her name". And that's only after fighting her. That's an incredibly low bar to claim he "respects her".
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His treatment of Uraraka is "he remembered her name". And that's only after fighting her. That's an incredibly low bar to claim he "respects her".
Haha, yeah, pretty much. Although he did defend her afterwards when others called her "frail." He stood up for her, one of the few things he's done not out of self-interest. I think it means something, if at the very least a possibility of change. Until then, I will be waiting for when someone or something whacks the superiority complex out of him. Hopefully that happens, I'll enjoy that.
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