2010-05-27, 15:24 | Link #7401 | |
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1. china has repeatably criticize the US for its foreign adventurism and cite its own doctrine of non-interference. Sending troops to occupy NK and capture Pyongyang is completely out of character. 2. if NK was stupid enough to shoot first, i seriously doubt China would risk it is economy to save it. 3. occupying any part of NK would make China responsibly for feeding and managing millions of starving farmers as welling as former soldiers with guns and not much skill. You are talking billions of dollars worth of responsibility, China has enough problems of its own without taking on that kind of responsibility.
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2010-05-27, 15:44 | Link #7402 | |
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As you said, Xellos, China criticized the US for sticking its nose in other people's problems, and not without reason. The US has done it a million times before, so much that I would suggest for you non Americans to go visit the US, before the US visits you On top of that, China's had some more recent problems with the US, so I don't doubt they'd latch on to any pretex for opposing America if it tries to spread its influence close to them, and North Korea would be just such a place the US would try. |
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2010-05-27, 16:03 | Link #7403 | |
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North Korea's already shot first though, so that isn't an if. Quote:
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2010-05-28, 00:26 | Link #7406 | ||
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So yeah, put N.K in a state of desperation and it drops nukes on the southern peninsula. Quote:
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Small arms sorta fall under the same category, since the North Koreans are literally swimming in Cold war infantry ordnance. The North Koreans will appreciate more of that, but it's questionable how useful another pile of Cold War small arms will really be to them. And all that extra ordinance in warehouses won't be much use when the Americans blow up all the trucks that could move it up to the front. Quote:
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2010-05-28, 09:32 | Link #7408 | |
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2010-05-28, 10:13 | Link #7410 |
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Holy... I couldn't look at the picture too long, gives me a horrible feeling. Don't think I'll watch the video.
Incredibly lucky there, glad that he's set to make a full recovery. I suppose they didn't 'destroy' the bull as seems to be the case in any other incident where an animal nearly kills a human... I mean, it's not massively surprising that such a thing could happen here.
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2010-05-28, 10:15 | Link #7411 | |
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2010-05-28, 10:23 | Link #7412 | |
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Certain hazardous cultures are kept as part of their identifiers as globalisation and modernism has taken away most of the colour that made each culture different from each other : bullfighting* is one of the more dangerous unique aspects of Latin American culture, just like how tiger hunts/sacrifice are once part of the Asian village culture. * - Interestingly, post-industrial age US has its own kind of "bullfighting", the stock market technique of rapidly picking up stocks to short-sell later when it downturns : it's a "Wall Street" pseudoculture, but equally risky.
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2010-05-28, 10:23 | Link #7413 | |
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On another note, I suspect that if North Korea falls to the south, the need for SK to have a US base on site would be gone. Sure in the short term SK would need US funds (or China money, whichever the case may be) to help defer the cost of integrating the north but in the long term no threat = no need for base, leading to US losing another staging area. Unless they count China as an aggressive threat on par with NK. |
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2010-05-28, 11:36 | Link #7414 | |
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Risky money transactions on Wall Street are not comparable to prolonging an animal's death for the sake of human amusement.
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2010-05-28, 12:15 | Link #7415 | |
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this isn't even close to being Man-vs-animal a day before the fight the bull is denied food and is force to run around sapping it of energy. And the night before the actual fight, needles are inserted into the bulling bleeding it all the while it is kept in a enclosure with no light. What the matador is facing isn't a animal at full strength but a weaken and disorient animal that was strave, bleed and keep in a dark room. The only advantage the matador didn't have was someone to hold the bull while he killed it. looking at the pic, i say thumbs up for the bull.
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2010-05-28, 14:01 | Link #7416 | |
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@xellos even if it was a fair fight, I don't see why it's big news when someone gets gored. You take the risk, suffer the consequence and don't act suprised when people don't feel sympathy for you. I just don't find what they do to the bull that appalling compared to some non traditional things we do to animals up here in the states. |
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2010-05-28, 15:00 | Link #7419 | |
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Anyway, back on the topic, he made the choice to bullfight and I am sure he's ready for the consequences. Animal abuse or stupidity or whatever, there isn't much we can group up and decide on since this is a rather long running type of event that has been through centuries, and that considering what we practice (bystander effect) in the face of belligerent animal abuse in our respective societies, who are we actually to criticise?
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