2011-02-20, 09:43 | Link #7962 |
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Holy right is Fiamma's 3rd arm. It's name is holy right. Touma special right hand is imagine breaker. Both people had special right hand but the ability embedded on it are different.
Holy Right to Fiamma Imagine Breaker to Touma.
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2011-02-20, 17:17 | Link #7969 | |
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Wrong Shinji, wrong. Did you forgot why Tsuchimikado is still alive? Because he still is of value for both sides. What happened when Ellis and Sherry got together? Their little group got crushed by outside organizations. Mikoto has no value anymore than her clones and I'm sure it was already stated that the Level 5 are expendable. Mikoto isn't exception there. If she gets involved in the Magic Side dark business there is no doubt she will be targeted to be killed like Touma is. And you know Touma won't be in Academy City forever and each magician who comes after the preview is more tricky and even more broken and Mikoto isn't the type of character to sit around when something happens and thats her flaw, she tries to do all on her own and fails for that so, if she ever gets involved with the darkness be it from the magic on from the science which she even can't deal with there is no doubt she will fail again. Quote:
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That IS special treatment. You know very well this, character like Himegami, Fukiyose, etc would have been developed instead sending them to the oblivion, and what we get? Mikoto tsundere to please fans . Quote:
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2011-02-20, 17:35 | Link #7971 | |
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You're getting a little off point; yes the series is named after her, but that doesn't affect how often Mikoto should appear. They're not mutually exclusive. Considering how they're the main two rivals for Touma if anything they would be mutually inclusive. If the author wanted to use Mikoto to draw in readers, the last thing he would do is keep her out. Those two things are mutually exclusive. You seem to be misunderstanding me (although my exact wording of one or two specific sentences probably contributed to that); I'm not saying Mikoto should appear in every arc, I'm saying don't make forced and dumb reasons for keeping her out of the action when she does appear. There's a difference between Toaru Index and Toaru Railgun; Touma just doesn't appear much at all in Railgun, while in Index, Mikoto keeps appearing but gets kept out of the action with forced reasoning. Also, when Touma does appear in Railgun and there's action happening or about to happen, he gets in on it. (sometimes he's even the source of the action) Mikoto doesn't get much of any action at all in Index
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2011-02-20, 17:50 | Link #7973 | |
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Mikoto has enough value to keep her around in Academy City, hence the incident in SS1. Her value goes to the image of Academy City, not the black projects of Aleister.
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The way I see the author's mindset, is that he tends to keep his favorite girls out of harms way. This is something I'm also guilty of when I first started my OC making 'career'. The romance interest to my character is locked down tighter than Fort Knox, Area 51, the White House, Langley, and the Pentagon combined. But then I realize that the best couples that people like, are the ones to do things together, nobody likes the whole "I'll protect you" mentality, the best way to go is "Lets do this together". Hopefully New Testament would handle their characters better.
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2011-02-20, 18:06 | Link #7974 | |
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That's not the most powerful character, but who cares? She's still a Level 5 with an awesome personality. An atomic bomb that has power, and will (well... should have) to change many things! EDIT: that said, we still get too much tsundere behavior, it's true... (I like this character for other reasons) Overall, I think Kamachi hasn't been doing a good job with her; I mean, he's not being realistic. To me, the fact that Mikoto is being forcefully kept out of the action is hardly deniable. Really. |
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2011-02-20, 18:13 | Link #7975 | |
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Hell let's say she was actually involved in the events of Volume 13 besides beating up on mooks (yeah Hound Dogs are mooks in the grand scheme of things) and actually fought Vento and maybe even Fuse. Well for one thing she won't accomplish jack besides get lolowned by Divine Punishment. Useful, right? She's 'protected' because her personality will end up getting her killed. Still helping out even if she is a Level 0? That's the kind of mindset that will get you killed. She's pretty much like Touma except without IB and hey IB is pretty much the main reason the guy can survive his fights against 'broken' characters. |
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2011-02-20, 18:22 | Link #7976 | |
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Kamachi could've done great things with her... That said we still got new volumes coming, and as Mikoto is one of Kamachi's favorite characters, I'm pretty sure he'll change that. PS sorry I edited my post before you posted yours |
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A lot of people keep thinking Mikoto would be in over her head if she got involved with magicians. Where is this logic coming from? Shiage is a level 0 who uses tactics to win fights against Espers, so why is it so hard to imagine Mikot can use tactics in conjunction with her powers to win fights? (which she already does, as proven in Railgun) Quote:
2. You're ignoring a big fact here; nobody there at that moment had any idea Hyouka was special in any way. To them at that moment, she was a helpless civilian. 3. You're trying to go around my point; Mikoto is a powerful esper who just a little earlier had proven she can handle herself against Sherry. Hence, she's in neglectable danger, especially in comparison to Hyouka. 4. What are you talking about? We're talking about how Mikoto being chosen to be teleported out over Hyouka was forced and illogical. What does Touma have to do with that? It doesn't matter if Touma was there or not; Hyouka was in far more danger (as far as they knew) than Mikoto, so she should have been given priotrity. Instead, they get Mikoto out. Why? Because if Kamachi had kept her there, she would have been there with Touma to confront Sherry. Plot hole. Quote:
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If that's teasing, then Stiyl or Kaori or Itsuwa only appearing in certain arcs is the same thing.
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2.Like i said the author gives enough mikoto when necessary,too much of something is bad, as for when mikoto is next to the fights like i say its gonna be one of those "help out once help out all the time things". Touma and mikoto together is like a war machine. He blocks the attack like an ultimate shield and she shoots a fukn railgun. Its a hax/broken team. The author probably doesn't want much of this I mean heck all season people complained cuz they find touma overpowered even though his power is fair but he KOs people in 1 hit. 3. Reason why Touma doesn't appear in railgun is because he's not a part of the story while mikoto is a character and a main one at that in index. Its not his fault someone wanted to make a different story. Only time action happened in railgun with touma was when mikoto wanted to fight him like twice. In the manga he's there for the SISTERs arc but its a crossover. Quote:
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2011-02-20, 18:38 | Link #7979 | |
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I don't mind if Kamachi still keeps shoving Mikoto into the story just to please the fans, but for the love of god he better not have her pull some ridiculous crap just to cave in to fan demands. That's just horrid writing right there. Already have a Shiage pulling that one... |
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And yet characters like Itsuwa and Kaori, characters without IB, get to help him out in fights. It makes no sense why Mikoto is different. Quote:
2. Again, I'm not saying Mikoto should be in every arc, but it's dumb and ridiculous that she keeps getting forced out by Kamachi's "convenient" developments/events when she is there. You're seriously overestimating Mikoto still; she would not make Touma invinceable. She's powerful, but she's not a steamroller. Amusingly enough others like Wilfriback say she's not powerful enough, and would just get killed. Sounds like you and guys like him are in conflict on reasoning. She can't be both too strong and too weak. (I don't think she's either, of course) 3. You're missing the point entirely; how often Touma appears in Railgun is irrelevant. It's the fact that he gets to do something every time he appears during/around a fight in Railgun, while Mikoto is just there on the sidelines every time she appears in Index. His first appearnace saw a duel between the. And you're forgetting about the next time he appeared, when he save Mikot and that girl from the teddy bear bomb; short but largely significant, in contrast to Mikoto who gets nothing done in Index. Quote:
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Why does everybody keep fixating on Railgun? I doubt Touma and Mikoto are thinking about how Mikoto has her own sidestory...... It's horrid writing that's keeping her out of action that's happening right next to her. Need to keep her from running into Sherry Cromwell? Have Touma and Kuorko get mixed up priorities and leave the defenseless girl in harm's way while getting the Level 5 out. Want to keep them away again? Have Sphinx suddenly run away for no reason to seperate Mikoto from Index. Plot holes/forced reasoning. And the list only gets worse later in the series.
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