[Manga] Chapter 364 Discussion

[Rahan]

Originally Posted by nightengale5385

I'll post the new spoiler pics here for ch.364 since the thread is closed 'til further notice

Spoiler:

From MangaHelpers:

Spoiler:

And the text apparently says : This is the power of me, Uchiha Madara

The Touch is supposed to be reliable, right ? Because it looks really fake to me.

[Icecolduchiha]

I can't tell, I hate when people do this....now they brought my hopes up only to crush them down....

[BlackShinobi07]

Originally Posted by nightengale5385

I'll post the new spoiler pics here for ch.364 since the thread is closed 'til further notice

Spoiler:

From MangaHelpers:

Spoiler for pic:

So according to this spoiler, if its real, Tobi is still alive and appearently has the sharingan. The pic doesnt look too bad. Now the question is how did Tobi manage to survive Deidaras explosion? Is he anther immortal?

[Nintendo]

more fakes

[yungz21]

since when does he akatsuki have hoods they only have cloaks

[Mr. Johnny 5]

Well if the Sharingan is real then he must be Obito :S....that's really weird...

That mask must be something like Darth Vaders mask...

[Suna no tate]

biggest issue to me is why tobi would suddenly reveal himself. I don't see a reason for it. why wouldn't he simply go back to akatsuki? or better yet just finish off sasuke who just killed his master?

And another sharingan user? boring! For an extinct clan, users keep popping up all over the place.

[Tettsuo]

If Obito is alive and has become Tobi, he'll just be cannon fodder for Naruto to defeat and reveal how to stop the Sharingan.

[Sazelyt]

Originally Posted by Rahan

The Touch is supposed to be reliable, right ? Because it looks really fake to me.

Touch is the One Piece spoiler guy (who, as far as I remember from the AP forums, almost always gets it right), so, it should be the correct one (of course, his source might have tricked him with 1%)...

So, if we consider the spoiler to be true, Madara being Tobi eliminates all the Tobi is Obito theories. But, it would make him the 3rd Uchiha, regardless. And, it would make him, more than a 100 years old, and being another member of the zombie group in Akatsuki. Now, the real question is whether Itachi is aware of him or not. If he is not aware, then, that might make him the 4th Uchiha alive. If he is aware of Madara's existence, then, it is most probably the case, that Itachi met him in other circumstances, and the question becomes why and how?. Another thing, when the leader in the previous chapter mentioned about Sasuke's Sharingan, it seems to be the case that Tobi has some connection to the real leader - otherwise there is really no explanation regarding how he gathered information on Sasuke.

Now, let's wait for the other connecting pieces regarding Madara, and his future role and his desire in the series, such as whether it is connected to Itachi's or it conflicts with Itachi's.

[abazou]

Originally Posted by Suna no tate

biggest issue to me is why tobi would suddenly reveal himself. I don't see a reason for it. why wouldn't he simply go back to akatsuki? or better yet just finish off sasuke who just killed his master?

And another sharingan user? boring! For an extinct clan, users keep popping up all over the place.

users keep popping up all over the place? we're at chapter 364 and so far only Sasuke and Itachi are true Uchihas. I'm still waiting forr some conformation on this pic.

[That Other Ninja]

*laughs* Is the text balloon in that spoiler pic coming from Tobi or the silhouette behind him that looks like a person?

[Icecolduchiha]

from what ive heard it seems to be genuine, but then again

Spoiler for hgh:

we also see that he is going to fight the leader who has some form of power with his eyes, I believe he is going to use it to take over naruto's body, because most of his talents we've seen have been body possesion it is likely that that is not even his true form, he very well could have been the one who took over the 3rd kazekage of the sands body when he was kidnapped, explianing the reason for which a body was never found, hopefully the next issue will resolve alot of things...Also if the sharingan in thbat pic isn't a fake then it could easily be more genjutsu

only time will tell, but if these pictures are true we could resolve alot f these issues

[That Other Ninja]

Originally Posted by Icecolduchiha

from what ive heard it seems to be genuine, but then again

Spoiler for hgh:

we also see that he is going to fight the leader who has some form of power with his eyes, I believe he is going to use it to take over naruto's body, because most of his talents we've seen have been body possesion it is likely that that is not even his true form, he very well could have been the one who took over the 3rd kazekage of the sands body when he was kidnapped, explianing the reason for which a body was never found, hopefully the next issue will resolve alot of things...Also if the sharingan in thbat pic isn't a fake then it could easily be more genjutsu

only time will tell, but if these pictures are true we could resolve alot f these issues

Uh, Sandaime Kazekage's body was never found because Sasori turned it into a puppet. And why is it "seen" that he is going to fight the leader? From what source or theory are you ascertaining these assumptions?

[Medalist]

Originally Posted by yungz21

since when does he akatsuki have hoods they only have cloaks

Kishi can do whatever he wants it's fiction.

Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

Well if the Sharingan is real then he must be Obito :S....that's really weird...

That mask must be something like Darth Vaders mask...

Perhaps...not weird, it'd just add something to the plot, Kakashi would be surprised.

Originally Posted by Suna no tate

biggest issue to me is why tobi would suddenly reveal himself. I don't see a reason for it. why wouldn't he simply go back to akatsuki? or better yet just finish off sasuke who just killed his master?

And another sharingan user? boring! For an extinct clan, users keep popping up all over the place.

In that picture he didn't reveal himself to anybody(assuming it's real). It just shows him walking in a city or village, and it gives us a glimpse of what's inside(suposedly).

Originally Posted by Tettsuo

If Obito is alive and has become Tobi, he'll just be cannon fodder for Naruto to defeat and reveal how to stop the Sharingan.

I doubt it, Kakashi would probably be the one to fight Obito.

Originally Posted by abazou

users keep popping up all over the place? we're at chapter 364 and so far only Sasuke and Itachi are true Uchihas. I'm still waiting forr some conformation on this pic.

Indeed. amen.

[cheese4u]

Originally Posted by Suna no tate

And another sharingan user? boring! For an extinct clan, users keep popping up all over the place.

All over the place?! You mean three people Sasuke, Itachi, and Kikashi. And it was already said there was another one pre time skip so that shouldn't be a huge surprise. And its not an extinct clan if there were still at least two people alive from the start.

[Sazelyt]

Originally Posted by Uchikatsu

Perhaps...not weird, it'd just add something to the plot, Kakashi would be surprised.

Something? If it is indeed Madara, this might change the whole course of action in the story.

[Luminion Lancer]

Originally Posted by Rahan

Spoiler:

And the text apparently says : This is the power of me, Uchiha Madara

The Touch is supposed to be reliable, right ? Because it looks really fake to me.

Spoiler:

-If this is indeed true then it certainly explains why Tobi's body is completely covered up (except for his hair) as well as his comedic/clumsy behavior. Of course we have yet to see the full chapter.

BTW, is that lightning I see behind him? Then he's definetly somewhere else since it wasn't raining during Sasuke and Deidara's fight...

Originally Posted by Sazelyt

Something? If it is indeed Madara, this might change the whole course of action in the story.

-How do you figure that Sazelyt? Sure it would prove Tobi is not Obito but I don't see much beyond that. Or perhaps I am not grasping the bigger picture? Would you care to elaborate on this revalations significance since I am rather curious...

[Sarugaki]

God I hope it isn't Obito.
Looks like a fake though.. hope it's not, I would love to see that legendary Madara.

[That Other Ninja]

Legendary? Going so far as to give him a title eh..

[Icecolduchiha]

Originally Posted by That Other Ninja

Uh, Sandaime Kazekage's body was never found because Sasori turned it into a puppet. And why is it "seen" that he is going to fight the leader? From what source or theory are you ascertaining these assumptions?

oh really, I didn't read that part of the manga because its going on in the anime and would rather see it there, and concerning the leader and naruto, I said if the pictures in the very beginingof this thread were true. There is a pcture of naruto talking to the leader ect ect and he say this is my power or something like that and he appears as naruto.