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Old 2015-10-02, 16:43   Link #8281
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The most important reveal this chapter was in Senzaemon's monologue. This proves Joichirou knows about Azami's inhumane methods and Erina's predicament.
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Old 2015-10-02, 16:48   Link #8282
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The most important reveal this chapter was in Senzaemon's monologue. This proves Joichirou knows about Azami's inhumane methods and Erina's predicament.
Well, they're 1st and 2nd seat respectively, so that one was a given.
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Old 2015-10-02, 16:50   Link #8283
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Well, they're 1st and 2nd seat respectively, so that one was a given.
No, not Azami, as far as we know.

And Jou was the 2nd seat, and did not graduate.
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Old 2015-10-02, 16:53   Link #8284
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Well, they're 1st and 2nd seat respectively, so that one was a given.
No it wasn't. Asami obviously got married and had Erina after he graduated, which was long after Joichirou left.
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Old 2015-10-02, 16:56   Link #8285
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No it wasn't. Asami obviously got married and had Erina after he graduated, which was long after Joichirou left.
That poster got the person and seating mixed up there.

Azami had Erina when he was 21.

Jou knowing this shouldn't even come as a surprise, given the close relationship he shares with the old man.
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Old 2015-10-02, 17:07   Link #8286
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My bad. I meant 3rd seat, not 2nd. But maybe this is also inaccurate
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Old 2015-10-02, 17:14   Link #8287
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My bad. I meant 3rd seat, not 2nd. But maybe this is also inaccurate
Once Gin and Jou vacated the 1st and 2nd seat respectively, Azami had every chance to be the 1st seat, given his astounding position in his 1st year.
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Old 2015-10-02, 18:53   Link #8288
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Err no it really doesn't make perfect sense. If Azami's treatment is really as bad as the old man feared then calling the feds and suing for custody of Erina is easily much more dependable then asking some 15 year old kid to save her with his cooking. Also getting a therapist to sort out her daddy issues. Now that would make perfect sense.

Granted this is shounen so expecting characters to do the obvious thing would be too anticlimactic.
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It is either Saezaemon is being dumb or Saezaemon and Azami had been cahoot together to ship Soma X Erina.

Azami: Father? It had been long time...Why are you seeking me after you banished me?
Saezaemon: Need your help. There is a ship I need to sail no matter what.
Azami: Why should I help yo-
Saezaemon: Asura's sperm + Your sperm = DAT SHIP!
Azami: So what do I need to do?
Saezaemon: All was written in this paper.
Azami: OMG...Such devilish plan.
Saezaemon: You continue to torment Erina, and I ask Soma to save her.
Azami: OK, I will get a cameraman to record this.
Saezaemon: Thanks..All hail to Soma X Erina ship!
Azami: All hail to Asura's son + Erina Ship!
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Old 2015-10-02, 19:04   Link #8289
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You mean Jouichiro and Senzaemon. These two sure know Azami really well, and they are also shippers on deck.

But calling the police won't solve the real problem here. And that's why Souma, and by extension the others, are the only ones who can help Erina return back to her former self.

I'm sure everything will be throroughly explained much later, so don't jump to hasty conclusions and call old man's request to Souma "senseless".
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Old 2015-10-02, 19:15   Link #8290
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Not even sure what Azami did even warranted law enforcement.
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Old 2015-10-02, 19:16   Link #8291
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If Azami was 3rd seat in First-Year, technically he's a better cook than Erina, right?

Unless he "lie, cheat and steal" his way to 3rd Seat?
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Old 2015-10-02, 19:20   Link #8292
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If Azami was 3rd seat in First-Year, technically he's a better cook than Erina, right?

Unless he "lie, cheat and steal" his way to 3rd Seat?
10 is a long way from 3, so we have to assume so.

He ain't an Eddie, in any sense. I think we already know he means business.
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Old 2015-10-02, 19:34   Link #8293
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The most important reveal this chapter was in Senzaemon's monologue. This proves Joichirou knows about Azami's inhumane methods and Erina's predicament.
I think Senzaemon asked Jouichirou to "save" Erina before. But he couldn't.
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Old 2015-10-02, 19:35   Link #8294
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If Azami was 3rd seat in First-Year, technically he's a better cook than Erina, right?

Unless he "lie, cheat and steal" his way to 3rd Seat?
Yeah, he was better I guess, though if he had managed to perfect her god tongue who knows, she might have been able to be in a higher seat or even the first one. Though him being erased form the history of the school means she is the youngest to achieve that.
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Old 2015-10-02, 19:45   Link #8295
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You mean Jouichiro and Senzaemon. These two sure know Azami really well, and they are also shippers on deck.

But calling the police won't solve the real problem here. And that's why Souma, and by extension the others, are the only ones who can help Erina return back to her former self.

I'm sure everything will be throroughly explained much later, so don't jump to hasty conclusions and call old man's request to Souma "senseless".
IDK bout you but when you're suffering deep emotional trauma you usually get a therapists that actually knows how to help you deal with stress/anxiety/trauma.

But hi like you said it's shounen might as well roll with it.

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Not even sure what Azami did even warranted law enforcement.
Emotional and physical child abuse (which definitely applies to Erina) are enough to get you to lose custody of the children in most civilized countries. You might even get jail time depending on the severity of the abuse.

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If Azami was 3rd seat in First-Year, technically he's a better cook than Erina, right?

Unless he "lie, cheat and steal" his way to 3rd Seat?
Err we don't really know how the elite 10 in Azami's generation stacks up to the elite 10 now. Or for that matter how Erina stacks up to her fellow elite 10 members. For all we know Erina might actually be better than the likes of Kuga but haven't really bothered to found out due to lack of motivation to Shokugeki with the other members of the elite 10.
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Old 2015-10-02, 19:52   Link #8296
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Emotional and physical child abuse (which definitely applies to Erina) are enough to get you to lose custody of the children in most civilized countries. You might even get jail time depending on the severity of the abuse.
It can be rather hard to prove stuff like that, you know.
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Old 2015-10-02, 19:58   Link #8297
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Emotional and physical child abuse (which definitely applies to Erina) are enough to get you to lose custody of the children in most civilized countries. You might even get jail time depending on the severity of the abuse.
Its a common occurence in Asian households, so I don't see the issue there.

My folks canned and whipped me with a belt regularly, and that's a pretty common punishment in the country I reside in.
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Old 2015-10-02, 20:07   Link #8298
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It can be rather hard to prove stuff like that, you know.
Word of mouth (especially if the child also testifies to getting abused) are solid evidence for gaining custody. In America/EU a least, if Erina makes it clear that she's terrified of her father and doesn't want to see him a restraining order can be issued by the government while the custody issue is sorted out.

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Its a common occurence in Asian households, so I don't see the issue there.

My folks canned and whipped me with a belt regularly, and that's a pretty common punishment in the country I reside in.
Not really the same. My parents have also hit me regularly before but they've never restricted me like Azami did to Erina. I can still see my friends, read my own letters, choose my own calling in life etc. unlike how Erina is treated.
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Old 2015-10-02, 20:52   Link #8299
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Not really the same. My parents have also hit me regularly before but they've never restricted me like Azami did to Erina. I can still see my friends, read my own letters, choose my own calling in life etc. unlike how Erina is treated.
Eh.. it is.

Curfews and restrictions are a norm in families with strict upbringing.

Again, we're discussing law enforcement here.
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Old 2015-10-02, 21:22   Link #8300
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It can be rather hard to prove stuff like that, you know.
Not that hard if you have enough money. Senzaemon is filthy rich, so hiring a detective agency to record a video of Azami abusing Erina and a psychologist to prove her emotional trauma is pretty easy to him.
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