In the end, Who is better Naruto or Sasuke

[BlackShinobi07]

Originally Posted by That Other Ninja

I wasn't making a contrast between those two statements. The distinction is between just working hard/training and the willpower to never give up. Which is the difference between Rock Lee and Naruto. They are two different things.

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And as for Sasuke's moral virtue, real virtue doesn't come and go when one pleases and out of convenience. It's already been established that Sasuke's selfishness will override his moral judgement. There is no grey area where sometimes you can be a traitor and sometimes have mercy. It may be convenient for YOU to think he is virtuous just because he releases some prisoners but that doesn't mean he isn't guilty of his immoral actions. There is no grey area for a a real hero, so if anyone likes Naruto and thinks him the better ninja than Sasuke its for that reason.

Okay I see what you mean now. But what immoral actions are you talking about?

[reloaded]

Naruto has higher potential than Sasuke so in the end Naruto will definitely be stronger and better than Sasuke.

As for now I wouldnt say Sasuke is stronger. Sasukes fast but as seen in the V.O.T.E battle Naruto can increase speed by releasing a tail so more tails should increase his speed further.
Naruto is indeed more powerful than Sasuke its just that Sasuke can tap into his full power whereas Naruto may not be able to or would chose not to (Kyuubi).

[That Other Ninja]

Originally Posted by BlackShinobi07

Okay I see what you mean now. But what immoral actions are you talking about?

I'd go into detail and have in the past before, but you fans of Sasuke simply rebuttle with bias reasoning like saying it isn't selfish to do this or that, or why wouldn't he leave his village etc. it really isn't worth debating over again because to me it really isn't a debate. Simply put, a good example of his immorality is his choice to abandon his village which is by all accounts illegal in Konoha. *shrugs* And that isn't aside from the other string of correlated risks added to the list by his action. Anyway, I think even some of you Sasuke fanatics know the arguments but choose not to acknowledge them for obviosu reasons, so I don't really need to say much more other than you're not all that blind. Just willingly ignorant.

[BlackShinobi07]

Originally Posted by That Other Ninja

I'd go into detail and have in the past before, but you fans of Sasuke simply rebuttle with bias reasoning like saying it isn't selfish to do this or that, or why wouldn't he leave his village etc. it really isn't worth debating over again because to me it really isn't a debate. Simply put, a good example of his immorality is his choice to abandon his village which is by all accounts illegal in Konoha. *shrugs* And that isn't aside from the other string of correlated risks added to the list by his action. Anyway, I think even some of you Sasuke fanatics know the arguments but choose not to acknowledge them for obviosu reasons, so I don't really need to say much more other than you're not all that blind. Just willingly ignorant.

I'm not trying to argue, I'm just curious. As I recall I don't remember seeing Sasuke do anything to hurt the village or even giving away any secret he may know.

I guess in the Naruo world abondoning your village is a big deal but i dont see why? Beside, its not like he's hurt Konoha in any way. He's actually hepled them quite a bit.

BTW, I'm not a Sasuke fanboy even though it may seem like that way. I just really dont like Naruto Uzumaki. His father and sensei's are cool, but not him.

[Sasuke_Bateman]

Originally Posted by reloaded

Naruto has higher potential than Sasuke so in the end Naruto will definitely be stronger and better than Sasuke.

As for now I wouldnt say Sasuke is stronger. Sasukes fast but as seen in the V.O.T.E battle Naruto can increase speed by releasing a tail so more tails should increase his speed further.
Naruto is indeed more powerful than Sasuke its just that Sasuke can tap into his full power whereas Naruto may not be able to or would chose not to (Kyuubi).

You need to be stop taking that crack.

[That Other Ninja]

Originally Posted by BlackShinobi07

I'm not trying to argue, I'm just curious. As I recall I don't remember seeing Sasuke do anything to hurt the village or even giving away any secret he may know.

I guess in the Naruo world abondoning your village is a big deal but i dont see why? Beside, its not like he's hurt Konoha in any way. He's actually hepled them quite a bit.

BTW, I'm not a Sasuke fanboy even though it may seem like that way. I just really dont like Naruto Uzumaki. His father and sensei's are cool, but not him.

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Leaving the village at the risk of unwillingly giving his body to a villain who's already tried to destroy Konoha and vows to do so again? Risking the lives of his comrades who not only want to find him by choice but must do so out of obligation to the village? You will say now that he defeated Orochimaru and yeah, he has but none of us know for certain that Orochimaru is gone for good. None of us should be surprised if he wakes up one day inside Sasuke and takes over. And now, Sasuke is unwittingly a part of Uchiha Madara's plot to ultimately do something underhanded, which is an understatement at best. In fact, Sasuke may have been a part of this plot as early as when his clan was murdered by Itachi. It isn't enough that he had comrades, his overwhelming greed to confront and kill his brother drove him to make immoral choices. Not only things like leaving his village which is traitorous but also disregarding his friends, lowering his best friend and ridiculing him out of insecurity and selfishness. He is a selfish character which is masked by grief and a desire for vengeance (NOT JUSTICE), which some of you can't... or WON'T see past for obvious reasons.

Originally Posted by Sasuke_Bateman

You need to be stop taking that crack.

You need to get off that fictional c**k.

[Sakuranbo]

Naruto hands down. Why? Because I hate Sasuke, he's an overrated Uchiha...'nuff said.

[BlackShinobi07]

Originally Posted by That Other Ninja

Spoiler:

Leaving the village at the risk of unwillingly giving his body to a villain who's already tried to destroy Konoha and vows to do so again? Risking the lives of his comrades who not only want to find him by choice but must do so out of obligation to the village? You will say now that he defeated Orochimaru and yeah, he has but none of us know for certain that Orochimaru is gone for good. None of us should be surprised if he wakes up one day inside Sasuke and takes over. And now, Sasuke is unwittingly a part of Uchiha Madara's plot to ultimately do something underhanded, which is an understatement at best. In fact, Sasuke may have been a part of this plot as early as when his clan was murdered by Itachi. It isn't enough that he had comrades, his overwhelming greed to confront and kill his brother drove him to make immoral choices. Not only things like leaving his village which is traitorous but also disregarding his friends, lowering his best friend and ridiculing him out of insecurity and selfishness. He is a selfish character which is masked by grief and a desire for vengeance (NOT JUSTICE), which some of you can't... or WON'T see past for obvious reasons.

You need to get off that fictional c**k.

Spoiler for Manga:

Oro couldnt kill him for three years since he had just changed bodies. When it was finally time to take over Sasuke's body look what happened.

His team mates arent looking for him becasue Tsunade comomded it? There doing it, as you said, ot of personla choice. Which i think is pathetic. Do they think he'll just run around with them on missions like before after he treid to killed them? Please. Naruto needs to continue his quest to becaome on hokage take Jiraiyas advice to give up on Sasuke.
I think the only reason he still is after Sasuke is because of that promise he made to Sakura.

Is not Sasukes fault he's a part of Madaras plans. Dont forget Naruto is also a part of those plans. Remeber that demon he uses to win most of his fights? Yea...Madara wants that too.

You can't really blame him for wanting revenge. He actually turned out pretty well for experienceing such a traumatic event at that age at the hand of someone he loved.

[That Other Ninja]

Originally Posted by BlackShinobi07

Spoiler for Manga:

Oro couldnt kill him for three years since he had just changed bodies. When it was finally time to take over Sasuke's body look what happened.

His team mates arent looking for him becasue Tsunade comomded it? There doing it, as you said, ot of personla choice. Which i think is pathetic. Do they think he'll just run around with them on missions like before after he treid to killed them? Please. Naruto needs to continue his quest to becaome on hokage take Jiraiyas advice to give up on Sasuke.
I think the only reason he still is after Sasuke is because of that promise he made to Sakura.

Is not Sasukes fault he's a part of Madaras plans. Dont forget Naruto is also a part of those plans. Remeber that demon he uses to win most of his fights? Yea...Madara wants that too.

You can't really blame him for wanting revenge. He actually turned out pretty well for experienceing such a traumatic event at that age at the hand of someone he loved.

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Everything you just said is the tried and true arguments of a Sasuke fan. You ignored the comment about Orochimaru not being truly gone. Its naive to think Sasuke's involvement with Orochimaru is over. Orochimaru was defeated at the deterioration of his body in conjunction with the 3rd sealing part of his soul. It's an exception that Naruto is being allowed to chase after Sasuke. Normally a task resided for ANBU. He's chasing him foremost out of personal regard and also as an obligation being comrades of the same village. It isn't Sasuke or Naruto's fault being part of Madara's plans but unlike Sasuke, Naruto has a price to pay for it. His life, when they attempt to extract the bijuu inside him. Sasuke is part of Madara's plans for his Uchiha blood. And yes I can blame him for his vengeful nature because my argument is based on the moral/immoral nature of who is better in the end. Which is Naruto.

[tatami]

is it so hard to tall the difference between powerfull and better?

what is better?

[iBeast]

Since the Manga/Show has started up until now and most likely for countless months to come? Sasuke.

In the end for like maybe that 1 episode or 5 last chapters we read, Naruto will undoubtedly be the stronger one because of his Nine Tails/Main character scenario.

But still though, I don't ever see Sasuke losing in a fight against Naruto.

[Hunter]

I suppose there must have been a reason I didn't close this thread sooner but I can't think of one right now.