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Jarmel · 2011-10-20, 22:05

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Originally Posted by pagan poor

I've heard a longer version of the OP (though not the whole song) and it flows a lot better than the edited version we have for the anime as it should. There's some parts of Koeda's vocals that bother me though that make me think I like nagi better. Probably since I got used to nagi with supercell. The orchestration for the song is pretty epic though.

Yea it looks like they chopped parts of it together. I also prefer Nagi's voice as I feel Koeda's is a bit too high pitched.

Anyway here is the longer version of the song:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSWGDpt-9XM

Anyway the show has been very much Code Geass in execution so far. The question is whether they can flesh out GHC better than they did Brittania. I'm also expecting either Gai to live long enough to see himself become a villain or die a hero.

Forsaken_Infinity · 2011-10-20, 22:17

Okay, it looks GREAT. But ugh... I seriously wanted, no, believed, that they had more to offer on the plot department as well as with the characters and everything. It's too early to call them all completely shot down but the episode didn't do anything to please the side of me that revels at being told a good story or the side of me that gets pumped up seeing awesome characters with strong appeal. Episode 1 hinted at a lot of depth to the characters but this episode had nothing at all. It might have had been a good idea to bundle this episode with episode 1 and air them together because that would have been great. As it is though, this episode was pretty much nothing but visuals - and a semi-decent followup to the first episode.

Oh well, at least it's pretty - very pretty.

JediNight · 2011-10-20, 22:33

I thought episode 2 was pretty good, but the arse-pull near the end was definitely a deus ex machina.

Spoiler for Ep2:

Chase · 2011-10-20, 22:41

I could have done without the fanservice but some folks are being a little over dramatic about it. It was a pretty good episode, i like the ED and i yeah some things are cliche but its too early to tell as far as the story goes. Overall 8/10 based on the strength of action as of right now. We'll see in the following episodes.

creb · 2011-10-20, 22:42

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

I usually don't like fanservice in shows with serious plots

Wait...what?

.:Jason:. · 2011-10-20, 22:45

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Originally Posted by creb

Am I the only one that thinks Ayase is the hottest Funeral Parlor girl (both in looks and personality)?

Nope, I'm right there with you. With Tsugumi as a close second I'd say.

Triple_R · 2011-10-20, 22:45

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Originally Posted by creb

Wait...what?

You don't consider a major armed resistance against an occupying international organization to be a serious plot?

Just because Guilty Crown has some superfluous elements that are just for show doesn't mean that the overarching plot isn't serious.

Code Geass had a perfectly serious overarching plot, while also having some superfluous elements in it. The two are not mutually exclusive.

SoldierOfDarkness · 2011-10-20, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

You don't consider a major armed resistance against an occupying international organization to be a serious plot?

For an armed resistance they're awfully well-armed.

I mean they got hundreds of mini bots and even stealth cloaks!

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Just because Guilty Crown has some superfluous elements that are just for show doesn't mean that the overarching plot isn't serious.

Code Geass had a perfectly serious overarching plot, while also having some superfluous elements in it. The two are not mutually exclusive.

I'm kinda wondering where this is going.

They can't defeat this organization simply through violence.

In any case this Gai is like Lelouch + Suzaku - Geass powers.

Triple_R · 2011-10-20, 23:06

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Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

For an armed resistance they're awfully well-armed.

I mean they got hundreds of mini bots and even stealth cloaks!

Gai's words during his speech to his forces implied that they've been operating on the sly for some time now. Such covert operations may have been largely focused on finding and securing necessary armaments in order to eventually mount a credible counteroffensive (or insurgency, if you prefer). So I don't have a problem accepting that they've managed to piece together a good cache of weaponry through such operations.

Chase · 2011-10-20, 23:08

If Gai would have gotten that power like he was suppose to, this show would be over already

tsunade666 · 2011-10-20, 23:18

But it looks to me Gai isn't powerless at all. He has strange eye and if he is indeed powerless right now then how can he know what Daryl's genome will result into? did he knew before hand?

serenade_beta · 2011-10-20, 23:22

Spoiler for ep2:

creb · 2011-10-20, 23:25

I just want to know where all the little robots that parachuted in came from.

Also had to lol @ the GHQ soldiers pulling Daryl out of his cockpit while leaving Shu alone.

Don't get me wrong. I'm thoroughly entertained by Guilty Crown.

Chase · 2011-10-20, 23:28

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

But it looks to me Gai isn't powerless at all. He has strange eye and if he is indeed powerless right now then how can he know what Daryl's genome will result into? did he knew before hand?

Hmm i don't think he's totally powerless but he doesn't have one of the 3 so called enhanced genomes(I think). In which Shu has one of them.

dark998 · 2011-10-20, 23:41

The fittest one truly survived, huh?

Anyway, really good episode. The standard set by 1 was quite high and this one managed to surpass it without effort. I like how Shu's void power is very versatile and he is even able to "forcefully" extract weapons from other persons (leaving the friendship aspect to rule only the power stat of said weapons).

Some nice scenes between Shu and Inori going on and the music during the entire episode was great (for a moment I thought I was watching Gundam Unicorn)

OP is fantastic, Im so torn between music and video that I can't decide which aspect I like more, they complement each other so well.

Looking forward to the slower paced episode next week, we really need it after the action-packed start. Inori looks hot with any kind of clothes

pagan poor · 2011-10-20, 23:57

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Originally Posted by Jarmel

Yea it looks like they chopped parts of it together. I also prefer Nagi's voice as I feel Koeda's is a bit too high pitched.

Anyway here is the longer version of the song:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSWGDpt-9XM

Anyway the show has been very much Code Geass in execution so far. The question is whether they can flesh out GHC better than they did Brittania. I'm also expecting either Gai to live long enough to see himself become a villain or die a hero.

Koeda has parts in the song that sound "nasally" and is a bit harsh on my ears, while Nagi didn't go there. As long as Koeda doesn't throttle up her voice, she sounds fine, IMO. But, I do prefer Nagi.

And obvious bad guy is worse because he's psychopathic. Subtle as a sledgehammer this show is.

justsomeguy · 2011-10-21, 00:04

I liked this episode. Yes, the fanservice, shallow and quickly killed villains, and simple plot mark this as an action show rather than a sophisticated exploration of human nature, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Besides, we're only two episodes in, and there's plenty of time for more development.

8/10 so far, this show is in solid B territory.

blue_sora · 2011-10-21, 00:14

The op is pretty good, but the singer is not. Her vocals doesn't resonate with me.

Okay, I thought episode 2 will flesh out this anime to differentiate it from Code Geass, but nope, it almost the same. Even when a guy said 'Yes, commander' I thought he was going to say 'yes, your majesty'

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I only hopefully that next episode it will explain more clearly the political state of the country because I still don't understand the theme of this show. Gai saying survival of the fittest seems too random for me. And if GHQ represents the foreigners that gives out the aid then it seems to say that all foreigners are evil and only had nasty intention behind their kind act. Of course, they could introduce kind foreigners in the organization so later GHQ are not that cut-out evil antagonist that Funeral Parlour said.

Gai, the failure of Inori lays on you because you send her in the first place. You just can't send another capable guy with that extra stealth cloak to tag along with her, don't you? And I'm hoping you are actually a manipulating bastard so that the story will become interesting.

Shu turned Gai down because he knows if he accepted he will only become the random guy who suddenly pulled weapons out of someone else's body so that Gai can stand proudly with the wind blowing his long blond hair, taking all the glory.

Flawfinder · 2011-10-21, 00:18

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Originally Posted by blue_sora

Okay, I thought episode 2 will flesh out this anime to differentiate it from Code Geass, but nope, it almost the same. Even when a guy said 'Yes, commander' I thought he was going to say 'yes, your majesty'

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Honestly, I have the opposite problem with the show. It's not similar enough to Code Geass to really be compared at all besides the superficial elements. But unfortunately, it doesn't give anything in return either, to the point that I say, "I hate rehashes, but the only thing that can make this anime interesting, is changing Shu's personality to Lelouch's. I don't care if people will declare this as a rip-off. It'll at least be more entertaining than this". Now, I don't want to be too hard on the show, as I like quite a few stuff that started off bad, but these characters need to become likable. Fast.

Archon_Wing · 2011-10-21, 00:54

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Originally Posted by creb

Wait...what?

Yes, I think replying to and mocking one sentence out of that long post without input is "wait what?", indeed.

And while it doesn't approach the issues always seriously, if GC wanted to take that path it wouldn't hurt. Besides, something like Tiger and Bunny started out really silly, but the plot picked up. It's only 2 episodes, so it's not certain what tone they're wishing for.

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JediNight キズランダム Join Date: Apr 2003	I thought episode 2 was pretty good, but the arse-pull near the end was definitely a deus ex machina. Spoiler for Ep2: How would they know that that jerk from the Anti Bodies would have the Kaleidoscope and that it would work the way it does? Can they predetermine what weapon will manifest from people based on their DNA and they somehow had a sample from him already at Undertaker?

2011-10-20, 22:41	Link #904
Chase Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	I could have done without the fanservice but some folks are being a little over dramatic about it. It was a pretty good episode, i like the ED and i yeah some things are cliche but its too early to tell as far as the story goes. Overall 8/10 based on the strength of action as of right now. We'll see in the following episodes. __________________ Currently Playing: Devil May Cry 4:SE The Witch and the Hundred Knight Battlefield 4

2011-10-20, 23:08	Link #910
Chase Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007	If Gai would have gotten that power like he was suppose to, this show would be over already __________________ Currently Playing: Devil May Cry 4:SE The Witch and the Hundred Knight Battlefield 4

2011-10-20, 23:18	Link #911
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	But it looks to me Gai isn't powerless at all. He has strange eye and if he is indeed powerless right now then how can he know what Daryl's genome will result into? did he knew before hand? __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

2011-10-20, 23:22	Link #912
serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	Spoiler for ep2: Jamming machines... OK, sure, why not? But... Ou no Chikara... The power of Kings... Oh lord, that made me laugh so hard. If it wasn't already similar enough, practically the same terminology just popped up too! Anyways, the OP... Visually, I don't think it was bad, but the song definitely wasn't satisfying. The very end of the OP was terrible, with everything just shoved together. I thought an arcade sounded bad... The content of the episode... The atmosphere was good. ONLY that. Some reflection weapon not being explained that blew up everything and Gai just standing there like he has suction boots, a hilarious crazy "how dare you touch me" villain appearing, Gai starting the mission after the execution (That type of stupidity can stay in Blood-Chaban), Gai complaining about not getting a power he let someone else hold, etc. It was a "good" plot, but not to take seriously or to look for emotional scenes. Because it was funny, I will look forward to future episodes. 2-cour means lots of slow plot and pointless episodes! Funny is a good type of bad, and when you copy great animes, you get a decent anime. On a more serious note, the one thing in this episode that was genuinely good was... the bodysuit fanservice. __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

2011-10-20, 22:17	Link #902
Forsaken_Infinity Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: United States of America Age: 32	Okay, it looks GREAT. But ugh... I seriously wanted, no, believed, that they had more to offer on the plot department as well as with the characters and everything. It's too early to call them all completely shot down but the episode didn't do anything to please the side of me that revels at being told a good story or the side of me that gets pumped up seeing awesome characters with strong appeal. Episode 1 hinted at a lot of depth to the characters but this episode had nothing at all. It might have had been a good idea to bundle this episode with episode 1 and air them together because that would have been great. As it is though, this episode was pretty much nothing but visuals - and a semi-decent followup to the first episode. Oh well, at least it's pretty - very pretty.

2011-10-20, 23:25	Link #913
creb Hiding Under Your Bed Join Date: May 2008	I just want to know where all the little robots that parachuted in came from. Also had to lol @ the GHQ soldiers pulling Daryl out of his cockpit while leaving Shu alone. Don't get me wrong. I'm thoroughly entertained by Guilty Crown. __________________ http://myanimelist.net/animelist/creb http://myanimelist.net/mangalist/creb It feels like years since they've been updated, btw. Also, cake.

2011-10-20, 23:41	Link #915
dark998 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	The fittest one truly survived, huh? Anyway, really good episode. The standard set by 1 was quite high and this one managed to surpass it without effort. I like how Shu's void power is very versatile and he is even able to "forcefully" extract weapons from other persons (leaving the friendship aspect to rule only the power stat of said weapons). Some nice scenes between Shu and Inori going on and the music during the entire episode was great (for a moment I thought I was watching Gundam Unicorn) OP is fantastic, Im so torn between music and video that I can't decide which aspect I like more, they complement each other so well. Looking forward to the slower paced episode next week, we really need it after the action-packed start. Inori looks hot with any kind of clothes

2011-10-21, 00:04	Link #917
justsomeguy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004	I liked this episode. Yes, the fanservice, shallow and quickly killed villains, and simple plot mark this as an action show rather than a sophisticated exploration of human nature, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Besides, we're only two episodes in, and there's plenty of time for more development. 8/10 so far, this show is in solid B territory. __________________ Currently watching: Arrow, The Flash, Gundam IBO, Euphonium, Occultic;Nine, Girlish Number Currently playing: LoH Trails in the Sky SC

2011-10-21, 00:14	Link #918
blue_sora Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011	The op is pretty good, but the singer is not. Her vocals doesn't resonate with me. Okay, I thought episode 2 will flesh out this anime to differentiate it from Code Geass, but nope, it almost the same. Even when a guy said 'Yes, commander' I thought he was going to say 'yes, your majesty'. I only hopefully that next episode it will explain more clearly the political state of the country because I still don't understand the theme of this show. Gai saying survival of the fittest seems too random for me. And if GHQ represents the foreigners that gives out the aid then it seems to say that all foreigners are evil and only had nasty intention behind their kind act. Of course, they could introduce kind foreigners in the organization so later GHQ are not that cut-out evil antagonist that Funeral Parlour said. Gai, the failure of Inori lays on you because you send her in the first place. You just can't send another capable guy with that extra stealth cloak to tag along with her, don't you? And I'm hoping you are actually a manipulating bastard so that the story will become interesting. Shu turned Gai down because he knows if he accepted he will only become the random guy who suddenly pulled weapons out of someone else's body so that Gai can stand proudly with the wind blowing his long blond hair, taking all the glory.