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Unless Aqua told him recently, which I doubt.
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2024-01-24, 18:58 | Link #1003 |
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I'd assume he has access to the full script, and likely talked things over with Aqua in regards to who they might need permission from to use the names of. And even if he didn't talk things over, the script alone, and knowing when/where Ai met him, would easily single him out with just a little research.
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2024-01-24, 19:05 | Link #1004 | |
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He knew.
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2024-02-07, 12:16 | Link #1008 |
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I suppose the angle we're seeing here is that Himekawa's mother took advantage of Kamiki first, but she failed to kill him and died instead, which led Kamiki to do the same thing to Ai and other victims?
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2024-02-07, 19:00 | Link #1009 | |
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I'm a firm believer Kamiki is a reincarnator, in which case there's a strong likelihood he was the one who seduced the mother. Obviously, that doesn't make her any less of a pedo, but in this scenario it means Kamiki was not the victim Aqua is portraying him as. One piece of evidence Aqua is wrong is that Kamiki had black stars when he met Ai in real life, whereas Aqua portrays him with white stars. To be honest I'm very surprised Aqua is choosing to portray him that way, since he appears very sympathetic here. We'll have to see how he handles the killings.
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2024-02-11, 12:50 | Link #1013 |
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Yeah, I'm not seeing anything in this chapter that changes my perception of Kamiki as a character. The most I can see happening is it'll show that he only "accidentally" gets Taiki's parents killed by telling the husband out of guilt, and it awakening something inside of him that sets him on a path of constantly murdering other up and coming entertainers.
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2024-02-12, 19:41 | Link #1014 |
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Raws for ch140 have been out for a while, so they could have been talking about that.
All I will say without relating anything to the chapter is that a red herring is technically possible since it was never proven that Kamiki was responsible for Ai's murder yet. However, even if he didn't, it still wouldn't change that he killed other female entertainers so he'd still be a murderer regardless. |
2024-02-14, 11:06 | Link #1015 |
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Well, chapter 140 is out, and I've no clue why some people think Kamiki is not a murderer. The chapter doesn't say anything about that. All it does is setting up the relationship between Ai and Kamiki. We knew they had a relationship and Aqua's movie is setting that up and justifying it. It does so by providing a common ground between the too. They bonded over the fact that both were putting up a facade (a lie) to everyone else.
But that's all the chapter is doing. In no way does the chapter imply Kamiki wasn't a murderer.
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2024-02-14, 19:07 | Link #1016 | |
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And, again, what we're seeing right now is just Aqua's fanfiction. He has no way to know how Kamiki actually felt or what his relationships with Ai and Airi were like. The point is to mislead people into thinking he was a victim and it's apparently working. I said he was a reincarnator before, but now I think it's more likely he's like Tsukuyomi and is a God who chose to be reborn as a human to enjoy his twisted games.
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2024-02-14, 19:37 | Link #1017 | |
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They also mentioned on multiple occasions that Gotanda fixed up Aqua's script, so you could argue this is as much of his fanfiction as Aqua's. In chapter 135, we see that he was responsible for adding real events that happened but left the emotional reaction/interpretation to said events up to the actors. If assuming that all the actions/events are true, then Airi still had an illicit relationship with a minor, regardless of how Kamiki reacted to it. Last edited by Shadow5YA; 2024-02-14 at 22:55. |
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2024-02-15, 08:49 | Link #1019 |
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Ultimately, the only relevant question is whether Kamiki became a murderer due to Airi's abuse or was already a nut case from the get go.
But to be honest, I don't think the answer would make a huge difference. Because, even if Kamiki did become a murderer due to Airi's abuse, that would not absolve him of his crimes. He would still be the same murdering psycho we know. He might be a reincarnator or a god, but I don't think that would add anything interesting to the story.
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2024-02-15, 14:20 | Link #1020 | |
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But if Ai was smart enough to see through him that far back, then that brings into question why she would willingly tell him her address and leave herself open to being hunted down like that. |
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