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2008-06-04, 18:35 | Link #1082 | |
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Which is why I hope Clinton doesn't get VP. |
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2008-06-04, 18:40 | Link #1083 | |
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Kathleen Sebelius will bring the alot of votes in including women as well, plus it can set up a chance for Obama to win Kansas for the first time since 1968. I had a chance to read up on her and she is really good. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sebelius
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2008-06-04, 18:42 | Link #1084 | |
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So you are blaming Clinton if Obama runs a crappy campaign and loses to McCain?
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2008-06-04, 18:47 | Link #1085 |
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Nope, I am not going to blame Clinton if that happens, in fact I wont blame her at all, she ran a awesome race and I hope that in the future, she will get the top spot. I will blame the Clinton supporters because they are so ill about Clinton not winning the nomination, that they will switch over to vote for McCain, look at her website and there is alot of people that will say that they will switch over because of that.
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2008-06-04, 18:56 | Link #1086 | |
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If the Obama supporters tries to get "revenge" if Obama loses and Clinton runs in 2012, it'll show just how immature Obama supporters are. |
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2008-06-04, 19:07 | Link #1087 |
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Not really. Obama has stopped with the silly bickering with Clinton while she keep pushing her supporters away. She has made no effort to keep this party unified and if it falls it will be her fault. She was the one intent on dragging it out when he needed to focus on Maccain who was chosen a long while ago and has been preparing for the general election for a long time.
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2008-06-04, 19:12 | Link #1089 | |
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Yeah. And the race shield isn't half as strong -- or half as real, for that matter -- as Clinton supporters seem to think so. Obama practically avoided the topic or it'll turn his nomination into a race war, and even then he still get flak for what he didn't use. Epic. |
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2008-06-04, 19:15 | Link #1090 | |
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Also, I'm figuring Clinton hasn't conceded yet to get a few things before dropping out. |
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2008-06-04, 19:18 | Link #1091 | |
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Then that happen? I never seen him using the "race shield". But I was looking at MSNBC today, and one of the senators was saying that he had some of the other senators that was working for Clinton want to come over and help out with Obama but she havent let them go. But if she won the nomination, Obama would set aside his differences and try to bring the party together.
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2008-06-04, 19:21 | Link #1092 | |
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I consider Obama a politician, not a statesman. |
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2008-06-04, 19:23 | Link #1093 | ||
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On the other hand, Clinton milked the hell out of her gender, no pun intended. Quote:
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2008-06-04, 19:26 | Link #1095 |
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And how do you know? I won't claim I know either, but he hasn't done anything to that effect. Maybe he'll do the same if he's in her position, maybe not. Maybe he plays magnanimous because he can afford to; maybe he really meant what he said. But the fact lies is that Clinton did what she did, dragging the damn drama far longer than it should've been, while Obama, on the other hand, didn't.
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2008-06-04, 19:35 | Link #1097 | |
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Technically yes, superdelegates can always change their mind at the last second. However by almost ever proper measure, Obama is ahead in every single reasonable metric (popular vote, pledged delegates, superdelegates, total delegates (both with FL/MI at 50% and without)).
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The issue with her is she doesn't add much to Obama's weak spots on the ticket and actually creates a few conflicts of position. She does help his weak points voting wise, but people aren't electing a VP. |
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2008-06-04, 19:38 | Link #1098 | |
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