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Old 2014-02-13, 23:27   Link #1281
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Oh I'm not disagreeing with that especially given everyone is probably around 19-18 years old now. I just could also easily see them not doing it either.



Well he is more or less the one of strongest shaman in Japan right now. If he does get defeated it won't be for a long time.



As far we know at moment she is the famed Yakou researcher who used to work in the Spirit Division/Department and happens to be close friends Ohtomo and Zen. IIRC she's apparently traveling/allied with Harutora as of vol 10.

There is a new Tokyo Ravens EX in where it supposedly focuses Ohtomo younger days at the academy. So well probably get a bit more her in there too.
are you sure about that?it's no that i doubt you,but it's the first time i've heard about it:in none of the summary or spoiler was it mentionned before,and you even said "apparently".
that would make her the first real yakou follower.
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Old 2014-02-13, 23:39   Link #1282
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There are plenty of "real" Yakou followers.

That's what Takiko considers herself and part of the reason why she betrayed the Twin Horn members within the Agency.

Anyway I read that on JP Wiki awhile back through a machine translator, so I don't know how accurate that is. Suzu isn't a follower as far i know, but she did supposedly help Harutora during vol 9. So her sticking by him isn't too surprising taking that into consideration.

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Old 2014-02-14, 00:01   Link #1283
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are you sure about that?it's no that i doubt you,but it's the first time i've heard about it:in none of the summary or spoiler was it mentionned before,and you even said "apparently".
that would make her the first real yakou follower.
Even if she is with them, reason must be kon not Yakou. Well its good to know he has some followers who are not itching to stab him.
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Old 2014-02-14, 00:07   Link #1284
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Eh, but Kon's no longer a youjo.
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Old 2014-02-14, 00:32   Link #1285
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Even if she is with them, reason must be kon not Yakou. Well its good to know he has some followers who are not itching to stab him.
now i wonder how Suzu's reaction to kon transforming from chibi fox was.

that aside, I don't think Yakou's enemies and opposition are mostly alive assuming grandma Miyo was still a kid during then and the only contact that carried on is somewhere out there and he visited him after steamrolling the way.

also, Amami is kinda familiar with the granny... did he even have contact with Yakou then?
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Old 2014-02-14, 01:22   Link #1286
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now i wonder how Suzu's reaction to kon transforming from chibi fox was.

that aside, I don't think Yakou's enemies and opposition are mostly alive assuming grandma Miyo was still a kid during then and the only contact that carried on is somewhere out there and he visited him after steamrolling the way.

also, Amami is kinda familiar with the granny... did he even have contact with Yakou then?
maybe he is already enrolled at school that Yakou establish by then.
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Old 2014-02-14, 02:31   Link #1287
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As far we know at moment, she is the famed Yakou researcher who used to work in the Spirit Division/Department and happens to be close friends Ohtomo and Zen.
Is she actually friends with them? I know they got grouped together at school, but Suzu seemed happy to have an excuse not to see Ohtomo when Douman wanted to see him, and Zenjiro acted oddly when Natsume and Kyouko brought her up.

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IIRC she's apparently traveling/allied with Harutora as of vol 10.
Really, hadn't heard that.

BTW, I can't quite get a good read on Takiko's character. Can someone help explain her for me?
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Old 2014-02-14, 10:03   Link #1288
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I just went through all of the Novel Illustrations and realise that the anime (ep18) is base on vols 8. So are they (the anime producer) going to cover up to all 10 volumes in just 24 ep?

For some reason I have a feeling that there ALOT of cut and paste just to fit all 10 volumes in just 24 eps.

Could anyone who have watched and read the NL please confirm if the anime is doing a great job and staying true to the NL?
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Old 2014-02-14, 10:10   Link #1289
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I just went through all of the Novel Illustrations and realise that the anime (ep18) is base on vols 8. So are they (the anime producer) going to cover up to all 10 volumes in just 24 ep?

For some reason I have a feeling that there ALOT of cut and paste just to fit all 10 volumes in just 24 eps.

Could anyone who have watched and read the NL please confirm if the anime is doing a great job and staying true to the NL?
They're animating volumes 1-9. From volume 10 onwards the second part of the story starts.

And obviously they're cutting and changing a lot.
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Old 2014-02-14, 10:49   Link #1290
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Really, I thought it was well made, but if you put it that way, I guess I'll start reading the LN, since I am pretty much up to date on the LN i'm currently following.
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Old 2014-02-14, 11:01   Link #1291
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Most likely no one is going to take notice of this post ... but the third side story of volume 4 has been translated on BT
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Old 2014-02-14, 12:05   Link #1292
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Even if she is with them, reason must be kon not Yakou. Well its good to know he has some followers who are not itching to stab him.
In her case I think she has interest in Yakou himself that doesn't have much to do with Kon. Suzu did extensively write about him and the Raven Coat, not mention she knew how to perform Taizan Fukun Ritual all which is considered taboo and banned in magic community nowadays. Furthermore she managed to somehow get in contact and form a relationship with both Douman and Kakugyouki, very old and elusive people who you never meet ordinarily unless you knew where to look. And... they just happened to be well acquainted with Yakou too.

So whatever her goal in Yakou is whether it be scientific or not, it's more than just Kon (though that helps ).

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Is she actually friends with them? I know they got grouped together at school, but Suzu seemed happy to have an excuse not to see Ohtomo when Douman wanted to see him, and Zenjiro acted oddly when Natsume and Kyouko brought her up.
While Ohtomo does seem to consider her a bit of a troublemaker, he definitely cares about her given that he asked Douman if she was alright and his had relived expression at the answer. I think it is the same case with Zen.

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Really, hadn't heard that.

BTW, I can't quite get a good read on Takiko's character. Can someone help explain her for me?
My impression of her so far is that of someone who is a sincere and probably pleasant person under most normal circumstances. Unlike the other followers who's fanaticism towards Yakou is based on how they could use him to give themselves power, she appreciates him entire for his genius in Onmyoudo. While this has lead Takiko to be quite ruthless her in goal weakening and eventually driving out the other faction that have degraded Twin Horn, she's not without compassion or humanity making her a Well Intentioned Extremist. When the story dives more into her past it well pretty intriguing what kind of life she led to this point.

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Most likely no one is going to take notice of this post ... but the third side story of volume 4 has been translated on BT
Nah man. All posts are appreciated here, thanks for the heads up.

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Old 2014-02-14, 15:13   Link #1293
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Anime viewer here. After the latest episode, I'm curious about Harutora's biological mother and where she is. Anyone know?
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Old 2014-02-14, 15:42   Link #1294
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Anime viewer here. After the latest episode, I'm curious about Harutora's biological mother and where she is. Anyone know?
i'm more curious about why no one in the last episode comment about harutora unexpected power-up:sure,the fact that natsume is a girl should come as a shock,but who between them is really yakou should be more important,right?
at less,in the anime,no one-including suzuka and touji-seem concerned about it
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Old 2014-02-14, 16:45   Link #1295
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Anime viewer here. After the latest episode, I'm curious about Harutora's biological mother and where she is. Anyone know?
his biological mother died a years ago. Harutora stated that himself (in the latest episode)
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Old 2014-02-14, 18:27   Link #1296
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I dont think its that they werent surprised about the power up, if you look at when Harutora used the high grade fire spell and that 5 gods shield they were all visibly surprised.

Its just that Natsume being a girl took the attention away from him. Someone getting a power up is less scandalous then the head of a famous family pretending to be a boy.
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Old 2014-02-14, 20:36   Link #1297
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I don't think you can even call it a power-up.
All Harutora seemed to do was to be extremely efficient at the spells he performed.
The only thing that could be called above-the-norm being when he used a spiritual disaster as energy to burn Shaver.
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Old 2014-02-14, 20:48   Link #1298
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That's exactly it. It's not a "power up".

All the small break in the seal did was allow Harutora to better control and utilize his spiritual energy. Everything else he knew to do through prior knowledge. Unfortunately the anime made look like the opposite since it don't not foreshadow that strong enough like the LN did.
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Old 2014-02-15, 00:14   Link #1299
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his biological mother died a years ago. Harutora stated that himself (in the latest episode)
Wait. In the anime, Harutora still doesn't know the truth behind his birth. The only mother he knows is Chizuru and she's not his biological mother.
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Old 2014-02-15, 00:18   Link #1300
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Wait. In the anime, Harutora still doesn't know the truth behind his birth. The only mother he knows is Chizuru and she's not his biological mother.
I think he meant Natsume's mother. The first sentence was relating to the LNs, while the second was relating to the anime, so it kinda got confusing.
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