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Old 2021-09-25, 18:23   Link #14741
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You get to become desperado , everyone get to become desperado ! * furiously hand out desperado title * .

At first it was something special that only a very few get to achieve with great sacrifice , now it is like everyone can become one which lost its charm .
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Old 2021-09-25, 21:29   Link #14742
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eh, the novelty of it was lost the moment stella got it anyways.
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Old 2021-09-25, 22:39   Link #14743
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Only ones that deserve it.
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Old 2021-09-25, 23:37   Link #14744
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eh, the novelty of it was lost the moment stella got it anyways.
Well to be fair Stella was something like Kurono, they probably had the potential to become one from the start.
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Old 2021-09-26, 00:27   Link #14745
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At first it was something special that only a very few get to achieve with great sacrifice , now it is like everyone can become one which lost its charm .
There are millions of Blazers around the world and the League’s side only has less than 10 Desperados.
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Old 2021-09-26, 00:58   Link #14746
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Well to be fair Stella was something like Kurono, they probably had the potential to become one from the start.
Thats not the problem with stellas awakening, but tbh i no longer care to get into that mess of a plot again.

Anyone relevant enough can awaken depending on the whim of the author. It is what it is. It would make the most sense for ouma of all people to awaken, but with how the power up has been handled, any one of the other top student knights could get it if the plot demands it.
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Old 2021-09-26, 07:49   Link #14747
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I'm all for Ouma becoming a Desperado if Shizuku doesn't. He didn't know about Desperado until a couple volumes ago.
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Old 2021-12-19, 22:59   Link #14748
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So author just tweeted he’s aiming on finishing Rakudai and his other series next year. His other series only has one volume left and if he’s confident he can finish both series next year then I’d say Rakudai only has 2 or 3 volumes left.
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Old 2022-01-04, 21:40   Link #14749
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As I said awhile ago if Stella gets pregnant toward the end of the series, I totally called it. I wouldn't put past it becoming a Desparado given that both parents are Desparado and the tense situation that the last part of the series is going to be in.
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Old 2022-01-07, 00:44   Link #14750
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He's a Desperado, she is a desperado, his friend & friend's girlfriend is a desperado. His dog will evolve into a desperado. Everyone is a desperado.
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Old 2022-01-07, 05:50   Link #14751
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He's a Desperado, she is a desperado, his friend & friend's girlfriend is a desperado. His dog will evolve into a desperado. Everyone is a desperado.
It’s just an opinion. It’s the author’s decision in the end. If he writes something surprising, I’d be happy too.
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Old 2022-01-07, 07:20   Link #14752
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It’s just an opinion. It’s the author’s decision in the end. If he writes something surprising, I’d be happy too.
I'm just joking on how the Desperado is slowly increasing despite it supposing being hard to obtain.
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Old 2022-01-07, 08:18   Link #14753
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I'm just joking on how the Desperado is slowly increasing despite it supposing being hard to obtain.
The number of Desperados in the world that existed from the start of the series until now should be 10-20. That’s extremely rare when there are millions of people with Blazer powers in the world.
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Old 2022-01-10, 17:24   Link #14754
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a small percentage of those million people are capable mage knights to begin with though.

if rakudai has at most 100 named/relevant characters, 10/20 of them being able to break powerscaling is a lot no matter how you slice it. And that's ignoring characters with inherantly broken non desperado power sets like amane and yudai (who can now kill desperados in a single blow), or ones who are basically knocking on the desperado door like the principal and ouma.

This is like saying a double digit amount of nukes isn't a lot.
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Old 2022-01-11, 06:50   Link #14755
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a small percentage of those million people are capable mage knights to begin with though.

if rakudai has at most 100 named/relevant characters, 10/20 of them being able to break powerscaling is a lot no matter how you slice it. And that's ignoring characters with inherantly broken non desperado power sets like amane and yudai (who can now kill desperados in a single blow), or ones who are basically knocking on the desperado door like the principal and ouma.

This is like saying a double digit amount of nukes isn't a lot.
Even if we only see hundreds of people with Blazer powers, the fact remains there are millions of them around the world. The story could only show a small percentage of people but because it focuses on Ikki and Stella who are now near the top in the world that all 10-20 Desperados in the world are shown or mentioned. It may seem a lot from reader’s perspective but it’s little from the perspective of someone in Rakudai’s world.
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Old 2022-01-11, 16:20   Link #14756
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Even if we only see hundreds of people with Blazer powers, the fact remains there are millions of them around the world. The story could only show a small percentage of people but because it focuses on Ikki and Stella who are now near the top in the world that all 10-20 Desperados in the world are shown or mentioned. It may seem a lot from reader’s perspective but it’s little from the perspective of someone in Rakudai’s world.
You're missing the forest for the trees

No one is saying the actual physical number of them isn't a fraction of the population. What is being said is that given how powerful they are relative to everyone else to the point that it's not even comparable, the growing number of them is a lot regardless of the perspective.
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Old 2022-01-13, 05:20   Link #14757
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Kaieda has shown that he’s capable of defeating a single Abraham Carter clone. He was ranked somewhere below 12th in the A-League so it can be assumed the A-League has around 20 people of at least his level. The number of people worldwide who are at least around Kaieda’s level could reach 50 or more. Ikki should be around this level when he first became a Desperado.

A-League participants are representatives from many countries and some countries like Japan has more than one representative. Kaieda who was ranked below 12th was considered very accomplished in the A-League so the number A-League participants could reach 100. The number of people worldwide who are at least on the level of A-League participants should be hundreds. Ouma without pseudo-mana should be around the level of average A-League participant.

Touka is on the level where she is stronger than most participants in Japan’s National League but she is not A-League level yet. There are 50-100 B-rank or above mage-knights in Japan, and including lower ranked knights who are about as strong the number could double. About 15 named characters in Japan are around Touka’s level or stronger. So the number of people in Japan who are around Touka’s level or stronger could reach 50 or more, and worldwide the number could reach thousands.

So to summarize, there could be thousands of non-Deserados worldwide who are around Touka’s level or stronger, with hundreds of them around Ouma’s level or stronger, and tens of them capable of defeating the weakest Desperados. If there are these many strong non-Desperados then I’d say 10-20 Desperados are still reasonable. Also, the number of people that became Desperados since the start of the series is just 3 and there are also that die during the series.
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Old 2022-01-13, 05:38   Link #14758
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It is possible that Ikki will further evolve as Desparado in concept in the final part of the series. Hence what I said before that Ikki is the definition of what a Desparado is. Looking forward in see how much more absurd Ikki will get. It better be worth it.
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Old 2022-01-13, 18:17   Link #14759
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The abraham clones are basically mass produced desperados that aren't actually desperado tier on their own, and each one is inconsistent in overall ability from each other. the professor saying that their combined might is their true strength basically confirms this. Using them as a benchmark to say there are plenty of strong non desperados that can challenge desperados 1v1 is flawed, and goes against the entire point of the team up against tendou.

Saying only 3 people become desperados during the series is meaningless when a bunch of desperados are introduced as such/present/named in the series to begin with. frankly this discussion is just a never ending series of pivoting away from the point so i'll just bow out now.
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Old 2022-01-15, 08:58   Link #14760
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How many Desparados are True Desparados beside Ikki?
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