2008-02-29, 04:27 | Link #1084 |
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Aah... Master Asia was just an old geezer :P
I've met a couple of my friends yesterday to whom I once managed to show a couple of SEED episodes for the start. They are all hard-working 26-year-old people like me. Lawyers, bankers, businessmen and economist. And you know what. They all have watched it, loved it, and they all have at least one model kit from the series. I think, despiter the statistics, it has nothing to do with age or profession, essentially. Just approach. I admit that it was pretty much the only Gundam show they've ever watched but still... maybe it's not that bad for some of those who passed their teenage years already I just thought about the title of this thread. I suppose Gundam SEED would be considered a trilogy if the movie OR a more-than-10 episode series was released, huh? And a question to those more familiar a bout the differences and similarities between CE and UC... Does a CE Dom somehow differ from an UC Dom? (Except the pilots)? To me, they seem all the same, but I have no time, nor opportunity to look at them closer. I've saw somewhere a "Dom trio" model kit pack so I kinda wonder whether getting this one would be much cheaper than just buying all three "SEED" HG 1/144 versions. |
2008-02-29, 08:16 | Link #1085 | |
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The Original Doms never had beam shields. Also, there's some differences in the operation of the chest mounted weapon(The Troopers emits some kind of energy field or something, while the Dom's is a beam scatter gun) Their main weapons also differ. The Dom's weapon is just simply a Bazooka, while the Trooper uses some sort of bazooka/beam rifle combo weapon. There's also some slight differences in regards to overall design.
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2008-02-29, 13:28 | Link #1086 | |
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Wow, that's a lot of differences. Bandai sure wants to rip the money out of our wallets... |
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2008-03-01, 10:12 | Link #1087 |
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Hell yeah, Master Asia.
Hmm, since Sir Dearka brought it up, how do ZAKU in CE differ from UC? Do UC ZAKU have acronyms for their names? @ Sir Dearka So what does SEED and Destiny have that make them unique? This could be said about other Gundam shows, again, but really, they're just similar takes on one another. @ 4Tran "...given the geopolitical situation in SEED/Destiny etc."...hmm, what exactly did this have to do anything with what you were answering Dean_the_Young with? anyway, I was just saying that the current political situation in CE is not really going to be dynamic at all if there is a third series or movie unless the entire story was rehashed to accommodate the "evils" done in the 2 CEs.
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2008-03-01, 10:21 | Link #1088 | |
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CE Zaku's use those lame wizard packs, whereas UC Zaku's do not, although there are various weapon configurations for them.
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2008-03-01, 10:45 | Link #1089 | |||
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I was pointing out where the Cosmic Era shows were similar to UC ones and the progression of that similarity: Seed = reminiscent of Mobile Suit Gundam Seed - end of first coul = starts diverging Destiny = very different from anything UC End of Destiny = difference from UC is even more pronounced; because of "the geopolitical situation at the end of Destiny" By the way, if you're going to quote someone, you should at least copy and paste it. Quote:
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What's so lame about wizard packs? Conceptually, they're used the same way we use modern hardpoints.
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2008-03-01, 10:55 | Link #1090 |
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It was neat when it was just the Strike using weapon packs...but it soon got to the point where almost EVERY suit could use wizard/striker packs of some kind. It really lessened the originality of them.
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2008-03-01, 11:38 | Link #1091 | |
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The extreme change in the mood and designs were so exceptional in the franchise that it lead to CE being one of the series which lured many non-Gundam fans into the Gundam world, actually. And brought this awful so-called "schism" between the n00bie-at-that-time new generation of SEED fans and the devoted old-generation-purist Gundam fans. I can see that since you ask the same questions all the time while my answers are just the same in my posts, maybe to you the uniqueness of SEED may not be that apparent, but to me the series really stands out in the whole G-multiverse because of the two traitsI mentioned above. --- As for ZAKU, I prefer the CE ones more in terms of designs. And I like Wizard packs. Though as far as MSes are considered, there is a visible overload of Gundams in the show which I myself perceive as quite annoying. Especially with Destiny broadening the main cast with each of its members having one or two Gundam MSes on the course of the whole show. |
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2008-03-01, 11:59 | Link #1094 |
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@ 4Tran
Um, I said, if it was found on other pages, I will copy and paste them. I was answering to the post you made on the same page, so sorry I didn't take time to do that. I thought you understood. Also, Destiny is not Zeta in any way? Stellar and Destroy Gundam will like to have a word with you. So what makes the difference in the UC and CE again?
If EA = Federation and ZAFT = Zeon, then there is not much of a difference in here. Unless of course you count the incident of the complete "wipeout" of the EA by the end of Destiny and leaving the members of CF and Orb in major positions of power, and have power over EA as well, in the sense that they've now taken complete control of the EA sphere of power as well. There's nothing too different in the way SEED/Destiny and the UC were presented, they followed roughly a similar path altogether, but the way they attempted to tell it is different. I also stated in my earlier post that all Gundam shows are similar, if it comes to that, but the way they were interpreted by the directors were different. It's not because they have different stories, it's just that Gundam shows present all facets of the war in different aspects, but essentially, they still retain the Gundam prerequisites in spite of all the difference the directors try to inject (as well as the writers) into each Gundam series. Saying what happened at the end of Destiny is of course, totally different from what happened from what happened at the end of Zeta, Shinn didn't become a vegetable, Shinn just lost 2 significant important women in his life, there was no CE Jerrid (unless the other 2nd gen Extended accounts for this ), there was no CE Minerva Zabi manipulated by a CE Haman Khan, etc., etc. ... but some aspects of Zeta did happen, like Stellar being compared to Four Murasame (and maybe Lunamaria = Fa in a way), Kira = Amuro that had a cameo/returning role in Destiny (do not hit me with rotten tomatoes for this ToT it's just a comparison), for one thing Dullindal gave me Scirocco vibes somewhat, the concept of a better CPU from MSG or was it Zeta (in here they're called as Extendeds), plus the homage to Hyaku Shiki, the DOMs, the ZAKU...plus of course, the horrible acronyms. I am pretty sure Zeta also has its similarities with MSG, but the point is, the directors (Tomino and Fukuda) tried to present that in a different light. Similar stories, different aspects of war. That is just what I was basically trying to say with the analogy I did with, plus saying that the CE way of ending the Zeta 2.0 that was part of the many mantras that some UC fans say it is was just a little too overboard as well. In that aspect, any attempt of trying to create another CE story based on what has happened in the SE IV would just be totally ;________; because the Clyne Faction and Orb have actually shut the door on anyone that would probably be attempting to do some war on humanity again.
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2008-03-01, 14:26 | Link #1095 |
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@Eidolon Sniper - I wonder if you actually really watched at least some major parts of SEED or Destiny. Because I have this feeling that despite you knowing all the storyline details, you seem not to understand my point which mostly circles not around the plot (which, as we know, is FULL of homages to the MSG and Z, but still has its different conclusions and numerous unique subplots), but more around aesthetic aspects like the style of drawing, overall atmosphere/mood and conventions. I never questioned what you ultimately said: that "Gundam shows present all facets of the war in different aspects, but essentially, they still retain the Gundam prerequisites in spite of all the difference the directors try to inject (as well as the writers) into each Gundam series". It is true. But still, I wanted others to see why I think that this difference aspect make CE series stand out among other Gundam shows.
And well, yeah, putting other evaluations aside, the Kira= Amuro comparison... I think that Yamato's role in Destiny was significantly greater than Amuro's in Zeta, which is a bad thing for CE. In Zeta, the "new protagonist" Kamille had such great character development... whilst Shinn's development was screwed up in the second half of the series. This is when Kira breached the boundary of what I understand as "cameo". He became a friggin' main protagonist, stealing away much of the spotlight from Shinn. Last edited by Sir Dearka; 2008-03-01 at 14:44. Reason: I always write "spider" instead of "sniper".... :P |
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besides i'm very personal with GS & also i agree that GS is unique besides it display a serious/mature/personal side of gundam series. well even despite gundam fans are spilt in half for GS but still the series known as gundam seed series show a new meaning of gundam series.
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2008-03-02, 07:02 | Link #1100 | |
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