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2010-02-24, 10:40 | Link #482 |
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See, this is why I don't trust pharmaceutical companies in general. They would make anything for the sake of money. For one thing, these people making these medicines should know that after a certain age, it's pointless to have sex in the first place because they lose any ability they have to bear children. I think it's a waste of money and dignity.
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2010-02-24, 10:45 | Link #483 |
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Unless of course they want to have sex solely for pleasure, which I assume is the mentality of most old people and almost all teenagers, and Viagra (which was originally not meant for erectile dysfunction) was marketed specifically for dem old folks.
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The vast majority of the elderly people I've met don't view sex the same way people of the new generation see it. We tend to look at things in terms of their surface value alone. The mentality the elderly have been used to regarding sexuality is vastly different from ours. I can't imagine anyone I've known using viagra. At least not the old ladies.
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But not wanting to have sex is not disease. Same as not having high sex needs. problem is, a woman with low sex needs will be included by those people among the one who are ill and need this new product. Either way, poor nogistune will be included in the bag of women who need help as soon as possible (sorry nogi, couldn't resist ) Quote:
I think that's part of a problem for certain couples. As I said in another post, when among a couple the man wants to have sex while the woman doesn't want, it's most of the time the woman who's accused of having a problem, while not wanting to have sex can be normal and again as i said, it doesn't mean those women don't love their husband anymore. It feels as if a woman has a problem if she can't give pleasure whenever her husband wants it. But I hope I'm wrong (Syn will say again that I am anti sex LOL ) So, those laboratories have to prove that there is a real problem like a disease or a malfunction. But they take some normal women with no malfunction as example of women who need to be treated for a non-existant problem. What's sad is that since it will make a lot of money (because you can imagine the machine named "advertising" being launched with it. Advertising that could start pointing fingers at some women who need hlep, but who are in fact perfectly normal), they get approval even if they lie in the studies. Quote:
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2010-02-24, 12:29 | Link #491 | |
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I mean I can't have kids but I do have a libido... Similarly, I know a few women who actually enjoy/want sex MORE because they can't have kids, and don't have to worry about contraception etc anymore.
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And it would imply that a young girl with low or no sex needs will be ill, but having very low libido can actually be perfectly normal. That's actually the problem, they try to make the sex needs of women a norm. Being normal would be to want sex Y times a week. Being above will be seen as normal, i guess, but being below that mark would make you abnormal. I guess the Fear behind that new product is that any women from young years till +70 who has a low libido will be categorized as people with malfunction. All of that with heavy marketing about how mid aged / old women can't live happily without sex (same as the medias that make men guilty of something when they are unable to get an erection from time to time). Quote:
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Each woman handles menopause, etc (whether natural of prematurely caused by surgery etc etc whatever)) differently, but TBH, when I'm older, if I have no libido, I'm ok with it. I mean I am who I am, and if my husband can't handle that, then that's all on him LOL.
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There are also perfectly healthy men with a low sex-drive, or even none at all. In many cases, it might be a lot harder for them, because it's not manly to go without sex for too long, or - just imagine! - remain a virgin your entire life.
Even viagra doesn't solve everything. Same goes for similar products for women. They won't, for example, magically turn an asexual into a sexual person - if it's just the libido, it might work in many cases, but strange as this may sound, sex isn't just about the libido, or even love and the libido. Hopefully, our society will become aware of that one day. Not to mention that no one has an obligation to have sex, even if it's for their partner's sake, and regardless of whether they are a man or a woman. But I think at least that is starting to sink in already. Very, very slowly, but it's there.
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The "female Viagra" isn't a fabled "horny pill" like kids in school used to talk about, something you slip in a cute girl's drink when she's not looking to make her insatiably horny. As I already mentioned, the drug is intended to help women who already want to have sex be able to actually enjoy the sex they're having. Quote:
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I can't really get to the points made by that article without translating it all, but I don't have the time now. They talk about it better than I.
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Anyway, I guess it will help some girls, yeah but I'm not worried about them ; I also know my country, somewhat, and I think I can already guess how it will marketed and presented to the public, and how that new norm will impact some minds of perfectly normal women. I hope I'm wrong though~~ Last edited by Narona; 2010-02-24 at 16:16. |
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Syn's covered most of my points, although I have to read the article later.
Sexuality and older women? (Dare I link you to some of the porn out there that involves women aged 50+, and they do not look as frail or old are you may envision) Kidding, but amateur porn does feature a lot of ordinary couples, especially those who are middle aged having a good time. Men need it to be able to perform and have sex in the first place, if what Syn is saying here in terms of helping women achieve that final kick in the first place (being able to orgasm), it'll actually help quite a few couples. A man's pride can really suffer if no matter how much he tries and him and his wife work together towards her pleasure, but she cannot orgasm, it can emotionally hurt him. That and as Chey said, post having kids or menopause, there's no need to worry about unwanted pregnancy anymore, a lot of women then enjoy sex as the pleasure that it is with their partners. That and also, technically, a woman's libido typically evolves and can grow as she gets older, while men reach a 'peak' and then they lose it. This whole Western culture of 'Stifler's mom', while American Pie movie is a parody of sorts, holds some truth in there. People are obsessed with youth and health in the West, and this includes sexuality attitudes as well. Just cause they've reached a certain point in their lives, doesn't mean they can have ground breaking sex like before, but they'd still like to maintain that physical intimacy to some degree (if a couple are still into each other like that), no matter their age. And technically, none of us can really use our older relatives or people we know as examples, cause it's not like they're gonna divulge their sex life to you now, are they? edit: Ah yeah, I've found the popular culture terms in regards to age disparity in sexual relationships Cougar Quote:
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