2013-06-17, 20:01 | Link #7701 |
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For a hand-me down, this is really a bargain seeing the equipment she can get without going to ZAFT or EA. It's better than most packs while still being flight capable which seems to bigger problem ZAFT and EA suffer when changing packs as well as being armed to point where it can actually fight decently.
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2013-06-17, 20:31 | Link #7702 |
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The salvaged parts thing is probably wrong seeing as Freedom's Baleena cannons were vaporized by Genesis and Mwu didn't use perfect Strike in his final battle.
Spare parts though is likely, since they have spare Freedom and Strike parts lying around the AA. It looks like it has a beam cannon and a rail cannon in addition to one anti ship sword. So it looks like it's a balanced all around pack. IWSP on the other hand is mostly solid weapons. And it seems to be based on the Akatsuki pack, although since the Akatsuki isn't known to anyone but Erica and Kisaka, a prototype for it is more likely. |
2013-06-17, 20:46 | Link #7703 | |
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@Aquaman OS seems the most likely logical outcome. Still the Akatsuki is a weird one when considering the tech timeline.
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2013-06-17, 20:59 | Link #7704 | |
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I have a question for you? Seeing that Ootari is literally made up of spare parts, what would be the reason for the EA for not producing new packs from spares backpacks in their facilities. Last edited by Cherudim Arche; 2013-06-17 at 21:15. |
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2013-06-17, 22:05 | Link #7705 | |
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My bet the Ootari literally, has only one unit considering its made from spare Freedom and Strike parts, its not like there is tons of those laying around. so Orb/EA couldn't make more Ootari packs.
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2013-06-17, 23:03 | Link #7706 | |
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And define "spare" parts. As from the look of it, Morgenrate put some thought into this pack. The idea's may have come from the Freedom or Strike, but that doesn't necessarily mean it was built from spare parts. |
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2013-06-17, 23:38 | Link #7707 |
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It looks like they took a sword striker sword, a cannon and a railgun from the Freedom, modified them slightly and stuck them on a flight pack.
It also looks like it has a Babi or Ash missile launcher attached to it come to think of it. And some missiles on the wings. Meanwhile the problem with Akatsuki is that it was seemingly built before Uzumi died, but about on par with non nuclear MS's of two years later, AND it has armor technology far superior to modern MS's despite being created two year ago. It's pretty much easily outfighting everything but the 4 Nuclear Deutrion units. And of course if they had that two years ago why didn't they bring it out then? (I know because Destiny wasn't thought of back then, but then don't really explain this) |
2013-06-18, 00:29 | Link #7708 | |
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2013-06-18, 01:22 | Link #7711 |
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Well, we could apply Astray idea's to the Akatsuki. If I understand it correctly, Moregenrate applied a variation of PS armor to the Astray Blue Frame. It only surrounded the cockpit to increase the pilot survivability.
Perhaps if PS armor was applied to the internal frame of the Akatsuki it could provide some protection against melee combat. btw, are we sure the Ootori back has a combo of beam/rail cannon? As I'm not sure I necessarily get the logic behind having one of each instead of two of one or the other. |
2013-06-18, 01:27 | Link #7712 | |
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2013-06-18, 01:52 | Link #7713 | |
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None. But on the flip side it's still better than Phase Shift. You can't shoot down a beam shot, but missiles and other solid weapons can be shot down before they hit (or blocked with the shield) and Akatsuki's armor doesn't drain from the battery, leaving it with plenty of power. If you can keep away from the swords and destroy the boomerangs before they hit you, you'd be invincible. |
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2013-06-18, 02:19 | Link #7714 | ||
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Oh, and actually, the Strike Freedom still has the railguns and it's quite comfortable at long range as well, especially in space. Quote:
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2013-06-18, 04:54 | Link #7715 | |
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I would say that this pack overall is an experimental prototype to gauge performance and what works best, while at the same time seemingly providing answers for almost everything |
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2013-06-18, 10:52 | Link #7716 | |
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And perhaps I'm being dense/dumb, but how is PS armor bulky exactly? It's not physical armor like a shield but a energy intensive device. Even than no PS equipped unit seemed overly burdened by having said device other than the power required to activate/maintain it. @Skye629 I get the benefits each has and all. I'm just not sure I get why it's not two rail cannons or two beam cannons. As I'd think having two of one would be preferable to having one of each. Especially considering Cagalli is the Rouge's pilot and not Mu or Kira. |
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2013-06-18, 11:15 | Link #7717 |
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I really think people underestimate poor Cagalli's piloting skills. By Destiny I'd bet she was at or above Lunamaria's skill level in terms of piloting. She (orb) got ZAFT to push back, till the Minerva got there then she held off Shinn till Kira got there. I doubt Luna could have done that if the situation was the same for her.
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2013-06-18, 13:02 | Link #7718 | |
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Cagalli was a trained pilot and veteran of the previous war who had been through thick and thin with Kira & co (and like them, can go SEED). There is no indication to suggest that she cannot hold her own, even if compared to calibers such as Mwu. She is right there with the top aces and definitely above the likes of Lunamaria. Just because she was royally nerfed in the 2nd season does not mean her piloting skills somehow disappeared - Tak
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2013-06-18, 13:19 | Link #7719 |
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You do realize the only reason Cagalli "held off" Shin is because of the Akatsuki's anti-beam armor right?
And while she may have been a trained pilot she had a tendency of being shot down rather easily by other pilots. The only time she wasn't shot down was the last battle of Seed. Even then she needed Yzak to save her arse from being taken out by one of the druggies. And that's after activating her Seed factor, something she never displayed during Destiny. To be perfectly honest with you.If given a choice between Luna and Cagalli watching my back in a firefight I'd much rather have Luna. |
2013-06-18, 13:31 | Link #7720 | |
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Seed series she was fine, besides the druggies were taking on Kira and Athrun so thats saying something of Cagalli's skill. Also why couldn't Cagalli still use SEED mode? Any and all characters that had seed mode could use it again, just look at Lacus. Luna is also useless in Destiny remember? she did pretty much nothing except shoot down some Windams. In terms of skill they would be in the same ball park. Shinn "saved" Luna for Athrun in the final battle just like Yzak saved Cagalli in Seed.
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