Xbox One

[Urzu 7]

[Tempester]

"With Xbox One you can game offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console," reads Microsoft's statement.

Wow. They're saying it as if it's a unique privilege for us to get a whopping twenty-four hours of offline gaming. Like we should be thankful for getting this much freedom or something.

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Customer-hating maneuvers like this make me somewhat thankful that I play indie games more than mainstream stuff.

[saravis]

Originally Posted by Vigo

Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing and Privacy Features


This is a fucking joke. Is this supposed to be better? Is this supposed to be "we are listening"?

Oh lol that's funny, so after all of Microsoft's verbal "dancing", all the information turned out to be exactly as understood. The only new information is the idiotic 30 day friend thing. It looks like Microsoft may just succeed in reducing used game sales, less people will be interested in buying the system to even think about used games for it, but hey, success is success.

[Triple_R]

Microsoft's statements here are almost downright Orwellian.

"We have never been at war with Eurasia... Console gaming never allowed you to share your games with your friends until the XBox One"

[Duo Maxwell]

It's also funny that people's argument when I asked "what if my internet goes down for more than 24 hours, and I want to play my Xbox One?" consists mostly of "read a book, play a sport, get a life". Sure, I should go reading a book when I want to play my game .

Actually, I think I should just use that money to buy some books instead.

[Urzu 7]

Originally Posted by saravis

The only new information is the idiotic 30 day friend thing..

Yeah, indeed idiotic. You can lend a game to a friend (so long as they are on your friends list for 30 days or more)...but, it is a one time thing only. Once it is passed along once, it can never be passed along again. Bravo, MS. Ya jerks.

[Destined_Fate]

Don't forget that if you sign your profile into another console apparantly it will only have a 1 hour offline clause instead of 24.

[Urzu 7]

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

Don't forget that if you sign your profile into another console apparantly it will only have a 1 hour offline clause instead of 24.

Oh yeah. Forgot about that for a bit. The XBox One has so many strikes against it. The PS4 should not be as restrictive and not be as bad with the DRM. On top of this, PS4 is supposed to be a significantly more capable machine (in terms of power and performance). On top of that, the gap between XBO and PS4 may widen further, as the XBO is having production yield problems with a hardware component and it is possible MS may have to underclock a part (the CPU or GPU, I forgot which) in order to meet a fall launch of the system.

[FlareKnight]

It's just all so ridiculous I can barely believe it all. Yet, this is reality.

An interesting point I read was on XBox Live getting hacked the way the PSN was a while back. That kills the servers for long enough everyone's system turns into a useless piece of junk until they get them fixed.

[chaosprophet]

Originally Posted by Urzu 7

Yeah, indeed idiotic. You can lend a game to a friend (so long as they are on your friends list for 30 days or more)...but, it is a one time thing only. Once it is passed along once, it can never be passed along again. Bravo, MS. Ya jerks.

Actually considering they also said it can't be lend, my guess is that, you can give a game to someone else. That game won't be usable by you anymore, only by the new owner. And also each game license can only have that happen once, so the person can't give you that game back, nor give that to anyone else.

And as they said this won't have a cost by them, so in a way you can use that to sell the game to that person. The person pays you and then you give the license. Although then in turn won't be able to do that anymore. Also seems like it's a option that each publisher c an negate if they want.

[Urzu 7]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

It's just all so ridiculous I can barely believe it all. Yet, this is reality.

An interesting point I read was on XBox Live getting hacked the way the PSN was a while back. That kills the servers for long enough everyone's system turns into a useless piece of junk until they get them fixed.

Useless piece of junk, you say? I scoff at that! They can use the television capabilities of their video game system. They can watch sports, even!

[risingstar3110]

Originally Posted by Destined_Fate

We asked Avalanche’s chief technical officer Linus Blomberg how the two consoles compare. “It’s difficult to say, as it’s still early days when it comes to drivers,” he told us. “With each new driver release, performance increases dramatically in some areas. The PlayStation 4 environment is definitely more mature currently, so Microsoft has some catching up to do. But I’m not too concerned about that as they traditionally have been very good in that area. The specs on paper would favour the PS4 over the Xbox One in terms of raw power, but there are many other factors involved so we’ll just have to wait and see a bit longer before making that judgment.”]

Yeah in raw power, PS4 is favour to win. But if count all other factors involved for example the stupid DRM, resell, and loaning factor, PS4 is on a crushing victory.....

[saravis]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

Yeah in raw power, PS4 is favour to win. But if count all other factors involved for example the stupid DRM, resell, and loaning factor, PS4 is on a crushing victory.....

I wouldn't be so quick to put all your eggs in the PS4's basket, we've not gotten all the information about the PS4, for all we know the DRM measures could be worse. If that turns out to be the case, it is a sad day for gamers.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by saravis

I wouldn't be so quick to put all your eggs in the PS4's basket, we've not gotten all the information about the PS4, for all we know the DRM measures could be worse. If that turns out to be the case, it is a sad day for gamers.

Wouldn't some insider leak have said something by now?

I highly doubt Sony employees are hardcore loyal to the company.

[kyp275]

Originally Posted by saravis

I wouldn't be so quick to put all your eggs in the PS4's basket, we've not gotten all the information about the PS4, for all we know the DRM measures could be worse. If that turns out to be the case, it is a sad day for gamers.

I doubt it, imagine yourself as a Sony exec:

"Hey man, look at what Microsoft is doing!"

"He's putting on... wait a minute, isn't that the PR suicide bomb vest we had on for the PS3?"

"Sure looks like it, and he's putting TWO of them on at the same time!"



If you're Sony, are you gonna join in with MS or high tail it out of that building?

[FlareKnight]

Originally Posted by saravis

I wouldn't be so quick to put all your eggs in the PS4's basket, we've not gotten all the information about the PS4, for all we know the DRM measures could be worse. If that turns out to be the case, it is a sad day for gamers.

If it does turn out like that I'm going to be getting reacquainted with all my old games. There's enough great games that have been released over the past couple decades that I don't need to put up with this nonsense.

Just glad that for the moment it doesn't appear that Sony is ready to throw away it's customers.

[synaesthetic]

My eggs are safely in the PC basket.

[Urzu 7]

Originally Posted by saravis

I wouldn't be so quick to put all your eggs in the PS4's basket, we've not gotten all the information about the PS4, for all we know the DRM measures could be worse. If that turns out to be the case, it is a sad day for gamers.

I'm sure Sony will have it so that PS4 has some DRM measures for disc based PS4 games. But the DRM restrictions that XBO has are several in number and really bad. It is very unlikely that PS4 will be even worse with it, and especially so since Sony is observing just how bad of a backlash MS is getting after the XBO unveil. Who in the world would expect Sony to then proceed to reveal that the PS4 will have even worse DRM restrictions than the XBO?

And another thing that is better about the PS4 is how they aren't really pushing EyeToy nearly as much as MS is pushing Kinect, and we should have no worries about EyeToy needing to be always connected and always on for the PS4. No one should expect Sony to copy that bonehead move MS is making with the Kinect and the XBO, especially after seeing the backlash people have given to that thing in particular.

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

My eggs are safely in the PC basket.

You could make a delicious Steam omelet with cheese, peppers, sausage, and frequent and wallet-pleasing game sales.

[0utf0xZer0]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

It's just all so ridiculous I can barely believe it all. Yet, this is reality.

An interesting point I read was on XBox Live getting hacked the way the PSN was a while back. That kills the servers for long enough everyone's system turns into a useless piece of junk until they get them fixed.

My concern wouldn't so much be outages as platform longevity.

Much as I fear for the long term outlook for the PC platform, with tablets eating into PC market share and, well, Microsoft (I like what I've seen of Linux but it's best suited for people who don't care about running a whole lot of software I use), I still think the longevity of the PC as a platform is more secure than that of any console.

[saravis]

Originally Posted by kyp275

I doubt it, imagine yourself as a Sony exec:

"Hey man, look at what Microsoft is doing!"

"He's putting on... wait a minute, isn't that the PR suicide bomb vest we had on for the PS3?"

"Sure looks like it, and he's putting TWO of them on at the same time!"



If you're Sony, are you gonna join in with MS or high tail it out of that building?

Shrug, I'm sure Microsoft has no less intentions of not being a complete failure, that hasn't stopped them from making the decisions that they have. I'm just not going to assume that Sony won't have "something" in store in regards to DRM measures and will wait until they reveal everything about the PS4.

Originally Posted by synaesthetic

My eggs are safely in the PC basket.

You and me both

Forget PS4/XBO, I haven't even gotten a PS3/360. I still have an XBOX and PS2 lying around somewhere.