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View Poll Results: Code Geass: Akito the Exiled OVA - Episode 2 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 2 | 18.18% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 1 | 9.09% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 6 | 54.55% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 9.09% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 9.09% | |
Voters: 11. You may not vote on this poll |
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2012-12-12, 00:07 | Link #701 | |
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Honestly, there's no shortage of similar art to go around. Which is why that doesn't surprise me, by and large, at this point. |
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2012-12-12, 05:48 | Link #703 | |
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2012-12-12, 08:39 | Link #704 |
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Tons of similarities, ayano is left-handed like kallen and she's defeated by leyla in the same exact way when suzaku knocked-down kallen in the waterfall event on kamine.
Same physical design too, but ayano is too much young for that body proportions, she's 15, kallen was 18 (little more possible). |
2012-12-12, 09:21 | Link #705 | ||
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Yes, RRW. I suppose that's more like it.
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I'm not saying you can't draw some parallels, but we know so little about her that it's mostly a superficial comparison. Quote:
You might have a point about the proportions, but that's the often unrealistic nature of anime at work. |
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2012-12-12, 11:57 | Link #706 |
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Well, there's the clamp style, they draw all the teenager girls flat-chest, but not because they're so, by adult they have all considerable boobs.
For example kaguya, nunnally and anya were flat because they're 15 years old, kallen was flat too at the same age, is a sort of.....japanese strange habit, the breast grow all in a instant XDXDXD For this the presence of Jean low on Akito is a sort of out-of-place woman. |
2012-12-12, 17:32 | Link #707 | |
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With that said, I agree insofar that it's a bit hard not to construe ZR as evil in itself given the methods. But it would seem by far the most practical and efficient way to simultaneously unite the world and dismantle the Darwinist privilege-based world that Britannia had built. Also, with the act of focusing all hate into himself, Lelouch would hope that the act of hate is spent as often on his figure instead of one another, leading to better dialogues, the realization that most people want the same things in the end and ultimately lasting peace. Well, I guess it's a matter of whether you think Machiavellian acts are acceptable given the circumstances or not. |
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2012-12-12, 18:44 | Link #708 |
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But it's a idea can't work in this world, japan people has a different mentality with the culture "kill your enemy and you're a hero" for this a guilty not seems a guilty at despite of what he/she did and can live without regret, look Nina, millions of casualities and she can live freely.
In a real situation she couldn't make 2 meters. Then for them all world is Japan, for this they thought that idea for the ending, otherwise in a real world well....Britannia become weak and are the other countries attack them after and the empire fall forever. |
2012-12-12, 20:09 | Link #709 | |
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Besides, as Bonzo noted, you cannot attach the idea of hate to any single person. The peace would last for no more than six years. Besides, Lelouch would be more useful alive than dead. |
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2012-12-13, 02:03 | Link #710 | |
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I agree that the whole idea of relying on focusing away "hate" doesn't seem it would be very realistic - and I wholeheartedly agree that Lelouch could have sought further redemption by staying alive. But his goal of unifying the world was entirely dependent on him actually defeating opposition against that - it's unlikely that either Britannia or any other UFN member would passively accept a global government, hence the violent means Lelouch took. He laid the foundations for an unified world to be operational but it couldn't happen with him at the helm after what he did to get there in the first place - it would be unacceptable, of course. So his own death was not just a way to feel good about a promise or "focus the hate" but a necessary course of action at that point. I guess he could've faked his death and retire in the Yukon but he would be forced to stay away from human contact. |
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2012-12-13, 06:40 | Link #711 |
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To die at the end was the honor sacrifice for the guilt, in perfect japanese style, a suicide after a failure is seen like a honorable way to ask sorry.
Instead in western mentality a suicide for that reason is stupidity. Try to imagine if after becomed emperor using the geass, Lelouch made only good things, realistically Schneizel couldn't do nothing, otherwise he become the bad guy and lelouch still the good one. |
2012-12-13, 07:51 | Link #712 |
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You do know that Lelouch isn't Japanese right? If anything Suzaku should have died for their sins since his honor was the most stained.
Really wish we had more info on Ayano so we can start the next Great Shipping wars if she's in Akito's harem or if she may be lusting after her leader or mister "I like one glove only". |
2012-12-13, 08:46 | Link #713 |
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We spectators know lelouch wasn't japanese, like the big percentage of characters, but japanese made this anime so all character think and act like japanese.
They're totally ingorant about western lifestyle and culture, I know this because in November I was there, I visit a japan high school in shizuoka and spoke with clerks in a sunrise offices in Tokyo. There's only japan for japan and they wrongly think we live in a way similar to them. |
2012-12-13, 18:39 | Link #714 | ||
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As for Schneizel, he could have at least tried. If he couldn't find Schneizel in time to stop Damocles, he could possibly, instead of opposing the UFN, have them go along with it as a feint against Schneizel instead, with the UFN secretly supporting him while fighting his forces for the sake of show. Quote:
Not to mention the other characters who killed and/or didn't contribute to the peace, i. e. Cornelia and Villetta, were still alive. |
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2012-12-13, 19:07 | Link #715 |
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Yes, but they made bad/not samurai code thing against lelouch, becomed the bad guy.
So, Villetta and Cornelia were against Lelouch too, so Lelouch was the evil one to kill, then everything forgived at the end. And the spectators judges/votes did the rest. For this I always tell japanese mentality is very....strange. |
2012-12-13, 22:06 | Link #716 |
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Would it be too much to ask you guys to take all this talk about R2 (in an endless circle of arguments and counter-arguments no less since every single point brought up so far by either side can be questioned further by the other) to another thread?
It's not like we don't have an entire sub-forum dedicated to this property and more fitting areas for all such exchanges. There's little or no reason to literally drag all that up in the Akito topic for the Nth time. Can't see the purpose of it. |
2012-12-14, 10:16 | Link #717 |
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Well tbh, that's the power that Lelouch has in this franchise. Any spin off's main character will undoubtedly be compared to him, and the discussion will tend toward him if it goes on long enough. I dub this trend "Reducto ad Leloucherum" ( this was inspired by "Reducto ad Hitlerum")
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2012-12-14, 20:38 | Link #718 | ||
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Not to mention Ohgi. He betrayed not only Lelouch, but also the UFN. He was also responsible for Lelouch's final turn towards self-destruction (not to mention the accompanying reign of terror). He does not deserve to be a leader. Quote:
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2012-12-15, 09:51 | Link #720 | ||
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When posts reach and maintain that level of divergence, the thread is clearly going off-topic and not providing anything relevant to the current topic. Quote:
It's a debate about the future actions of Lelouch and, more importantly, those of other characters who aren't likely to be present in Akito at all. |
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