(CR) Giant Killing (TV)

[M.Marangio]

Originally Posted by germanturkey

lies. Tsubaki wouldn't be a dm. he'd be a winger, hence his number.

He plays in the same position as Murakoshi (the running test was according to position).

In the second half, the forward was Sera (20), the offensively oriented midfield players were Tamba (14, left winger), Miyano (18, right winger), Gino (10) and Zaki (15) in the center, leaving the defensive roles (volantes) to Murakoshi (6, right) and Tsubaki (7, left). Sera and Tamba were later replaced because they ran too much.

[germanturkey]

no, the fact that he was matched up with Murakoshi during the game, when he out stripped him, meant he was playing some sort of attacking role. during the current game, and even during the practice with Gino, he was playing an attacking role. he's a winger.

they wouldn't make an anime about a defensive midfielder. it wouldn't be exciting. #7 denotes a winger. 5 and 6 are for defensive players. i don't think the producers would mess that up, given their target audience.

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Spoiler for ep5 "omoshiroi" translation:

For the little kid's comment, I'd still go with "fun," which isn't exactly a translation, but I think gets across what the kid meant. Words in different languages -- especially linguistically unrelated languages -- hardly ever cover the same semantic ground.

But I do think "interesting" would work, too. He didn't seem that excited, more like a serious little guy, so I'd put that next. "Funny" doesn't work there, I don't think, but is a very common meaning in ordinary speech.

Spoiler for 5:

I think "fun" is pretty close to the mark, too. I think what the kid is trying to say is something to the effect of "stimulating" or "invigorating" but "fun" is probably the closest word in his vocab.

That was another really solid episode - I'm liking this one a lot. The players are more than cardboard cutouts and the pacing of the episodes is spot-on. The production values aren't stellar, but the heart is in the right place and there's a real rooting interest growing here. It's hard not to root for an underdog.

[Saturn Beaver]

To be honest, I was really surprised to when I see Tsubaki as a DM, and it's actually not explicitly stated in the subs, rather it's in the manga. It does fit though, not basd from the running test but his position in the match is in the same line as Murakoshi and he did mark Mochida. Despite all that, it's very possible that in the first half formation of 4-5-1, he played a winger or attacking midfielder, but since there's a substitution in that position he goes a bit back to take a more defensive position. Also, I see the series revolving more around Tatsumi, so saying that it's an anime about defensive midfielder is incorrect, and personally I can see him easily change his position to a winger, it's not that hard.

[KiNA]

A winger and a DM skills are totally totally TOTALLY different between each other.. And to see a winger to suddenly switch into a DM or viceversa are totally o_O... But Tatsumi indeed appoint him and Murakoshi as the DM during the half time team talk so *shrugs*

Hopefully we get a better look at the team line up more later on.. >.<

[destiny4everlove]

Episode 5

Another awesome episode!

- I must admit that at the beginning of the series I wasn’t a huge fan of the opening song, I mean I didn’t dislike it but I wasn’t a big fan of it either, but now I so like it! It gets me all excited and ready to watch the episode.

- So the final result was 2-2. But I’m still very happy with the result , since the result still shows the important fact that ETU is not a weak team against which you can win easily anymore.

- Tatsumi is such an awesome motivational speaker , he knows what and how to say the things the players need to hear when they need to hear them.

- Tsubaki…I was thrilled when he took the ball away from Mochida…but…he really needs to pay more attention to what he is doing, maybe if Baki wouldn’t have interfered ETU’s goalkeeper might have had a bigger chance to save the ball. I feel bad for Baki, because he was only trying to help his team win but it all backfired on him.

- Gino…he is very talented but as it was said in one of the previous episodes, he just does want he wants, so he is not reliable.

- Murakoshi and Tatsu’s conversation in the end was very cool. Tatsu reminded Murakoshi once again that he doesn’t need to worry about tactics and stuff because that is Tatsumi’s job; the only thing he needs to worry about is to give his 100% as a player during the game and play passionately as he did during the last five minutes of the game. It was also nice of Tatsu to make Murakoshi remember to enjoy the game, to remember the happy chants and faces on the fans and on his friends/teammates’ faces.

Since now the anime is all caught up with the manga, I’m going to read the manga and enjoy all the little details that I’m sure were omitted in the anime. ^_^

[germanturkey]

i still don't believe that Tsubaki is a DM. in the OP it shows him running by players on the left side, and his build and skillset are more indicative of a box to box midfielder or a winger. i'm going to bet that he'll be moved there eventually. either way, i can't believe the producers would shit on a convention as stringent as winger = 7... i'm disappointed.

anywho, about the ep: we get insight on how Tatsumi thinks. that's the best thing to come out of this episode.

[Azuma Denton]

Just watched eps 5...

Tsubaki is a DM?? WTF??
He is not suited to be DM.. He is a winger or forward.
Hopefully he become a DM just for this match.

I think i understand ETU formation.

4-5-1
4 Defender
2 DM (in this case, Murakoshi and Tsubaki)
3 Attacking Midfields, with Gino as their playmaker, + Tamba & Zaki
1 Forward (#20 Sera)

Yeah, so that's why Murakoshi is being slow. He tends to overthink something.
Tatsumi stripped that out of him, and suggest that he only focus on playing...

Kinda see Tatsumi like Edgar Davids now...

[KiNA]

THAT bulldog?

[fertygo]

I think tsubaki not a DM, more like free-role player.
But maybe he only became DM for this match, considering Tatsumi want to expose the hole on Victory's midfield.

Tsubaki will put on anywhere Tatsumi want from now

[Saturn Beaver]

Originally Posted by fertygo

I think tsubaki not a DM, more like free-role player.
But maybe he only became DM for this match, considering Tatsumi want to expose the hole on Victory's midfield.

Tsubaki will put on anywhere Tatsumi want from now

Yeah, I think it's something like this. It's possible that Murakoshi act as a single DM on the first half's 4-5-1 formation, and Tsubaki played as a winger. However, with the formation change in half time a winger is substituted in Tsubaki's position, and with only 3 defenders they need 2 DMs. Why would Tsubaki be chosen as a second DM is not really explained, but I agree that it's very possible that it's probably just temporary and he'll be back as offensive midfielder next match (of course, after he sorted out his mental issues, worsened by this match's blunder).

[king12354]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Sure it does. Very often reserves are younger and have less miles on the tires, so to speak. Fresher legs and bigger lung capacity.

Reserves are the lesser skilled players, not the youngest. I don't watch soccer but it's the same for any sport.

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by king12354

Reserves are the lesser skilled players, not the youngest. I don't watch soccer but it's the same for any sport.

Very often the reserves are the youngest, in the belief that watching and learning for a year or two is the best apprenticeship. Almost every top club in Europe has one or two 18-20 year olds on their reserves list. Sure, there are has-beens snd never-was guys on the reserves, too - but I guarantee if you took the average age of the starters on the top clubs vs. the reserves, the reserves average at least a couple years younger.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Very often the reserves are the youngest, in the belief that watching and learning for a year or two is the best apprenticeship. Almost every top club in Europe has one or two 18-20 year olds on their reserves list. Sure, there are has-beens snd never-was guys on the reserves, too - but I guarantee if you took the average age of the starters on the top clubs vs. the reserves, the reserves average at least a couple years younger.

I think things vary from sport to sport.

In major-league baseball and hockey, the teams in the top league have developmental teams in the next best league, so they like to have younger players spend their time there, where they can get playing time and hone their skills.

But in NFL football, there is usually a mix of lesser and younger players sitting on the bench for the big team, and just getting on the field from time to time, since the big clubs have no developmental teams. I suspect world football is more like this.

[Azuma Denton]

Football team often consist of two team.

Main team which is starting eleven with 10 - 13 subs.
2nd team like reserves, who is sometimes a development teams for younger player and a player that is not needed for main team.


In England, there consist 3 teams in one club.
Main team, Reserve team, and U-18 team.


And usually, people talented for football usually being scouted for club at age 15 up.

[elindir]

Originally Posted by KiNA

A winger and a DM skills are totally totally TOTALLY different between each other.. And to see a winger to suddenly switch into a DM or viceversa are totally o_O... But Tatsumi indeed appoint him and Murakoshi as the DM during the half time team talk so *shrugs*

Hopefully we get a better look at the team line up more later on.. >.<

I think the manager only wanted to teach him a lesson, and wanted to see how he responds to pressure.

[KiNA]

If thats what he thinking of doing.. then he failed as manager, that is the most stupidest thing to do.. simple as that..

[fertygo]

Originally Posted by KiNA

If thats what he thinking of doing.. then he failed as manager, that is the most stupidest thing to do.. simple as that..

lol, so true...
But Tsubaki from the start is CMF, and being a DMF is not big shock for him anyway.
And from what I seeing, he assigned to man mark Mochida right from the start eh ?

[Emerald Emblem]

He could of course be rotating the team to find their ideal position, formation can also cause this inconsistency in a players position too.

[Lange Neus]

Had a good laugh with ep 6, as they employed some foreign voice actors. What sounded like a native french speaker and a native dutch speaker (he sounds like the guy who had like 2 lines in champloo). Both of them also spoke english with french and dutch accent, which was fun to hear. Dispite them being native speakers tho, they spoke slow and monotone (even compared to their translators). I still have to commend Deen for trying.

On the subject of their translators though, I could hardly make out a word they were saying (Yeah I'm fluent in dutch and french). Even tatsumi's english sounds a far stretch from someone who spent 4-5 years abroad.

Oh yeah and they played soccer too. A team specialized in passing. Right. We'll see how it goes.