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Kirayuki · 2016-09-23, 11:50

The final dungeon theme "Phantasmal Blaze" also used the same mix.
Doesn't help that the dungeon design give the 3rd vibe too

Aoi Toori · 2016-09-24, 01:23

It's been a long time since I stayed up until dawn to play games but hoooboooy

Spoiler for The Finale!:

Spoiler for Divertissement:

Still at the beginning of epilogue chapter now and I still cant find answer to sooo many questions!

marvelB · 2016-09-24, 08:51

BTW, I dunno if anyone else brought it up yet, but.... it might not be a bad idea to do a 100% playthrough of NG+. Eventually, you'll come across some extra juicy plot details that you will not find in your first run through the game.

Aoi Toori · 2016-09-24, 12:17

Yep, I intend to get "it" (and I heard there's also new quest?) with unspeakable + magical alisa

Aoi Toori · 2016-09-28, 09:04

Finally done with the epilogue of this AMAZING JRPG!

Spoiler for Trails of Cold Steel II:

All in all, for me CS2 is a lot better than CSI. Hell, CS2 is my favourite in all of translated Trails series! It's a perfect combination of Xenogears, Suikoden, and Persona

Kudos to Xseed for bringing this game to wider audience, and their excellent choice for voice actors. Also for the beautiful addition to the ending!

Ringil · 2016-09-30, 04:57

I'm not done with this game yet (Act2 Part3), but honestly this game is really easy in terms of difficulty, probably even easier than CS1. I'm playing a fresh New Game on nightmare and I haven't had a real challenge in a fight since Act 1 Chapter 1 when the first finish the fight in 40 turns challenge occurred.

MeoTwister5 · 2016-10-02, 05:38

After a break to play and reach the final dungeon of SMTIV: Apocalypse, looks like it's time to finally finish the game.

Se7enSword · 2016-10-03, 03:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aoi Toori

Finally done with the epilogue of this AMAZING JRPG!

Spoiler for Trails of Cold Steel II:

All in all, for me CS2 is a lot better than CSI. Hell, CS2 is my favourite in all of translated Trails series! It's a perfect combination of Xenogears, Suikoden, and Persona

Kudos to Xseed for bringing this game to wider audience, and their excellent choice for voice actors. Also for the beautiful addition to the ending!

Finished it last night and i have the same view as you, great post!

Really excited for Sen III now, and i'm trying to fight the urge to play Crossbell before 3rd gets localized.

MeoTwister5 · 2016-10-03, 08:40

It is done. I actually teared up a bit like the rest of the cast when the final boss finally went down... and realized it was Class VII's final battle.

I'm guessing the mention that Erebonia's story isn't over is the same as how Crossbell and Liberl's stories aren't over either. Ouroborous is still slinking around in the background.

I'm still hoping for the grand finale where Erebonia, Liberl and Crossbell squads finally get together and end Ouroborous once and for all. A man can hope. I'm still debating if I'm going to give the eventual fan translation release of Zero a shot.

Se7enSword · 2016-10-03, 09:07

Well they did mention that characters from previous games would show up in Sen III

Aoi Toori · 2016-10-03, 09:26

Yeah! Personally I can't wait until december when we not only got new info about Sen III but also fan-translate of Zero!

If that news/trailer(?) got me pumped so much, I might consider to PO the japanese one for collection, or at the very least finished the prologue

@Se7enSword : Now the question is whether they will be playable or just as important NPC.

ninja6398 · 2016-10-03, 17:20

So anyone want to start the speculation/theory train for CS3?

rladls2121 · 2016-10-03, 19:55

Right now I don't know what to expect.
But will there be Olivier Lenheim the Wandering Musician?
He often says Olivier is the real him after all.
Not the prince Olivert.

I wonder if Alfin has seen different side of her brother like how Estelle treats him and how he acts naturally towards Joshua and Schera?

Seeing Rufus like that at the end, it makes me wonder how awkward for Lloyd to meet Jusis if there's a chance?

Aoi Toori · 2016-10-04, 09:07

Sen III speculation

Even though Kondo still considering Vita ver or not, I'm sure Kondo won't abandon Vita because it still has a strong fanbase and Tokyo Xanadu Vita sales was a lot better than PS4 ver.

Also about this battle/warfare pic :

I saw that some people think that will happen to nord highland. I also speculated that nord highland will suffer the collateral of erebonia-calvard conflict even before the pic leaked.

Spoiler:

ninja6398 · 2016-10-04, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by rladls2121

Right now I don't know what to expect.

Seeing Rufus like that at the end, it makes me wonder how awkward for Lloyd to meet Jusis if there's a chance?

That is true they let the cast split up so anything can happen to them, and there's the question of how Calvard will respond to the new Empire weapons. Then well a whole lot of other things to consider.

Hopefully it it'll only as awkward as Jusis's Celdic bonding event.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aoi Toori

Sen III speculation

Even though Kondo still considering Vita ver or not, I'm sure Kondo won't abandon Vita because it still has a strong fanbase and Tokyo Xanadu Vita sales was a lot better than PS4 ver.

Spoiler:

Well a part of me wish they abandon the vita since it seems like its holding the game back, or at least do a Xanadu where the PS4 has extra content.

Yeah I definitely don't see Nord. I think it could be part 2 of the Civil war with Olivert's faction vs Osborne or an escalated conflict with Calvard and Erebonia.

Well here's a discussion idea how do you think each member in Class 7 are doing when 3 happens. Will Rean still be depressed, Will Laura finally beat Clause in a fight, etc.

marvelB · 2016-10-07, 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninja6398

Well a part of me wish they abandon the vita since it seems like its holding the game back, or at least do a Xanadu where the PS4 has extra content.

Speaking as someone who's often too busy to get enough time to sit in front of a TV screen (as well as not having enough money to afford a PS4), I must respectfully disagree with the statement in bold, friend. Heck, during the past few years I've only been able to enjoy Falcom's wonderful products because they're such heavy supporters of the portable medium. That's why I truly do hope they don't abandon said medium anytime soon, otherwise it will be a very long time before I'm able to play Sen 3 after its release.....

Aoi Toori · 2016-10-07, 21:50

I have no probs with vita as long as both ver have same release date, unlike Tokyo Xanadu or Ys8. Also, maybe Falcom can follow Bamco with the 2 cartridges Gundam game if Sen III is as enormous as they stated in the interview.

Dextro · 2016-10-23, 19:06

Well I got the first game during th psn sale a couple of months back and I have now finished my first play through in 80h or so and all I can say is: OMG this game is freaking awesome! My mind is completely blown away by the ending. I was 100% no expecting this. When the last floor finished and that showed up I wasn't sure what to think.

Spoiler for CS1 ending:

Needless to say I was opening up Amazon and putting my order in for the sequel before the credits where even finished. Now I need to brace myself to get all those potential waifu endings that I missed. Not really thrilled to do the 7th floor boss fight again though :/

ThereminVox · 2016-10-23, 20:45

Finished up at last. Boy, if you thought the "prologue" of the first game was comically time-consuming, wait til you see

Spoiler for ToCS2:

Somehow I missed a treasure chest or two somewhere, but there's always the Nightmare playthrough.

Trails games have mastered the combo punch of reveals. First they feint you with a reveal that you may have anticipated so that you settle in with that "I knew it!" feeling, and then, just when you feel comfortable that you're a clever kid, they'll hit you with one or two in succession that you never saw coming.

Overall I'm satisfied with 2 as a continuation. It may have been more illustrative of the product to go with the Trails in the Sky naming convention of calling the second game "Second Chapter" since there is a lot of reuse of locations and enemy types. This really only got disappointing when a few bosses returned which really ought to have been one-offs to keep them special. The fact that their skills and scripts were frequently identical to the previous game was a bit of a bummer.

On the plus side, the Shrines stand in for the crawling that was done in the Old Schoolhouse floors in game one, and I consider it an upgrade. The shrines had a bit more character to them, whereas I came to dread the monthly schoolhouse crawls in the first game.

There were some great new characters brought in, with Duvalie, Mcburn and Altina probably being the standouts to me. I thought that they also built the relationship with Rean and his family well.

NPC dialogue is probably the best I've seen in a localized Trails game, and that is saying a LOT. Laughed out loud at a lot of good quips, callbacks, and moments that would only make sense if you are a crazy person like me who talks to every NPC each time they have something new to say, and follows along with their stories. The attention to detail in even the most tertiary characters' narratives sets the Trails games apart, and this game is on point with that stuff.

I played both games on the Vita. Much like ToCS1 the second game chugs and drops frames noticeably during exceptionally busy panning shots (Heimdallr is bad for this,) and at least one large particle effect storm created by a huge boss' death throes. I never had any problems while actually controlling the game, and these slow-downs seemed restricted to a few cutscenes and scripted moments which taxed the hardware, so they never actually bothered me.

rladls2121 · 2016-10-24, 17:28

For some reason I would like to see Heiyue in the next game.
I really liked Cao Lee talking with Lloyd and the others from Zero, Ao and Sen II.
He was really entertaining.
Well it is unlikely for them to appear since they are more focused on Calvard.

Was there a reference about Revanche in Sen I and II?
Revanche was the criminal organization from Crossbell that used the weapons from Erebonia after all.
Revanche really gave Lloyd and the others see Erebonia's bad side.
Talking about that kind of topic to Class VII only makes them really feel bad about it.
And since Garcia from Revanche was one of the former comrades of West Wind Brigade after all.
Lloyd would let Fie visit Garcia if he knows about it.

Alisa's father, just who is he?
We still haven't heard why he is gone.
And he resembles someone from Zero no Kiseki.
I wonder if i'm right about if Alisa's father is someone who i think he is?

2016-09-24, 01:23	Link #542
Aoi Toori KISEKI da yo!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nadesico-C	It's been a long time since I stayed up until dawn to play games but hoooboooy Spoiler for The Finale!: CROW WHY CROW?! After all our effort! On the other hand, damn you Rufus! Damn you Osborne! But that's a really good move dammit... They even outmanage ouroboros (I'm also become MORE curious about their true purpose and their grandmaster...) "Rean, I am your father" indeed... Spoiler for Divertissement: Hello Simon Lloyd finally a chance to play as you (I haven't play Zero/Ao yet ). Rixia is not half bad either, in every aspect IYKWIM But why oh why rean, I expect better than this from you at least you let them go and be chivalrious and all that. I cant wait for more conflict in crossbell in Sen III! Still at the beginning of epilogue chapter now and I still cant find answer to sooo many questions!

2016-09-28, 09:04	Link #545
Aoi Toori KISEKI da yo!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nadesico-C	Finally done with the epilogue of this AMAZING JRPG! Spoiler for Trails of Cold Steel II: Whoever said they finish the the epilogue in 2-3 hours what your doing? ^^" I need 10++ hours, but maybe that's because I grind everyone to equal level (yes even though I used class VII-only party for final boss). But at least the dungeon only has 17 floor not like some other games that has 100++ floor dungeon So everybody except Rean will walk their own path UNTIL NEXT TIME THEY WILL REUNITE AGAIN hopefully. I saw a lot of potential still in Laura, Gaius, Fie, Emma, Jusis, and Millium in particular since their story is not done yet. Alisa, Elliot, and Machias can still tag-along I guess because it wont be class VII without them! My only let-down it too many question left unanswered, even Rean's reason to stay at Thors is still vague. For easier access to Heimdallr in case dearest dad chancellor or the army needs his 'help'? To show that even though he's the hero he's still just a student of a military school? To hide from the mass/media? I also know that class VII is Olivier's pet project to find a way to make peace between noble and commoner. But since civil war already broke out and noble faction 'defeated', so they decided to disband it? No planning for the next class VII or something? (class VIII?) In the other hands, it opens a lot of path for CS3. Falcom can approach any angle from this kind of cliffhanger and unanswered story. I just hope they will give us new info quickly All in all, for me CS2 is a lot better than CSI. Hell, CS2 is my favourite in all of translated Trails series! It's a perfect combination of Xenogears, Suikoden, and Persona Kudos to Xseed for bringing this game to wider audience, and their excellent choice for voice actors. Also for the beautiful addition to the ending!

2016-10-02, 05:38	Link #547
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	After a break to play and reach the final dungeon of SMTIV: Apocalypse, looks like it's time to finally finish the game. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2016-10-03, 08:40	Link #549
MeoTwister5 Komrades of Kitamura Kou Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	It is done. I actually teared up a bit like the rest of the cast when the final boss finally went down... and realized it was Class VII's final battle. I'm guessing the mention that Erebonia's story isn't over is the same as how Crossbell and Liberl's stories aren't over either. Ouroborous is still slinking around in the background. I'm still hoping for the grand finale where Erebonia, Liberl and Crossbell squads finally get together and end Ouroborous once and for all. A man can hope. I'm still debating if I'm going to give the eventual fan translation release of Zero a shot. __________________ Medical Student vs. Anime Last Exile - Fam the Silver Wing -

2016-10-03, 09:07	Link #550
Se7enSword Swordsman Extraordinaire Join Date: Aug 2008	Well they did mention that characters from previous games would show up in Sen III __________________

2016-09-23, 11:50	Link #541
Kirayuki Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	The final dungeon theme "Phantasmal Blaze" also used the same mix. Doesn't help that the dungeon design give the 3rd vibe too

2016-09-24, 08:51	Link #543
marvelB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	BTW, I dunno if anyone else brought it up yet, but.... it might not be a bad idea to do a 100% playthrough of NG+. Eventually, you'll come across some extra juicy plot details that you will not find in your first run through the game.

2016-09-24, 12:17	Link #544
Aoi Toori KISEKI da yo!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nadesico-C	Yep, I intend to get "it" (and I heard there's also new quest?) with unspeakable + magical alisa

2016-09-30, 04:57	Link #546
Ringil Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	I'm not done with this game yet (Act2 Part3), but honestly this game is really easy in terms of difficulty, probably even easier than CS1. I'm playing a fresh New Game on nightmare and I haven't had a real challenge in a fight since Act 1 Chapter 1 when the first finish the fight in 40 turns challenge occurred.

2016-10-03, 09:26	Link #551
Aoi Toori KISEKI da yo!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nadesico-C	Yeah! Personally I can't wait until december when we not only got new info about Sen III but also fan-translate of Zero! If that news/trailer(?) got me pumped so much, I might consider to PO the japanese one for collection, or at the very least finished the prologue @Se7enSword : Now the question is whether they will be playable or just as important NPC. Last edited by Aoi Toori; 2016-10-03 at 09:38.

2016-10-03, 17:20	Link #552
ninja6398 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016	So anyone want to start the speculation/theory train for CS3?

2016-10-03, 19:55	Link #553
rladls2121 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: California(Current).	Right now I don't know what to expect. But will there be Olivier Lenheim the Wandering Musician? He often says Olivier is the real him after all. Not the prince Olivert. I wonder if Alfin has seen different side of her brother like how Estelle treats him and how he acts naturally towards Joshua and Schera? Seeing Rufus like that at the end, it makes me wonder how awkward for Lloyd to meet Jusis if there's a chance?

2016-10-04, 09:07	Link #554
Aoi Toori KISEKI da yo!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nadesico-C	Sen III speculation Even though Kondo still considering Vita ver or not, I'm sure Kondo won't abandon Vita because it still has a strong fanbase and Tokyo Xanadu Vita sales was a lot better than PS4 ver. Also about this battle/warfare pic : I saw that some people think that will happen to nord highland. I also speculated that nord highland will suffer the collateral of erebonia-calvard conflict even before the pic leaked. Spoiler: Honestly though, I cant see any resemblance of nord highland on that pic

2016-10-07, 21:50	Link #557
Aoi Toori KISEKI da yo!! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nadesico-C	I have no probs with vita as long as both ver have same release date, unlike Tokyo Xanadu or Ys8. Also, maybe Falcom can follow Bamco with the 2 cartridges Gundam game if Sen III is as enormous as they stated in the interview.

2016-10-23, 19:06	Link #558
Dextro He Without a Title Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The land of tempura	Well I got the first game during th psn sale a couple of months back and I have now finished my first play through in 80h or so and all I can say is: OMG this game is freaking awesome! My mind is completely blown away by the ending. I was 100% no expecting this. When the last floor finished and that showed up I wasn't sure what to think. Spoiler for CS1 ending: I mean the game went from Persona 3 to Gundam/Code Geass in a couple of hours. That has to blow anyone's mind Needless to say I was opening up Amazon and putting my order in for the sequel before the credits where even finished. Now I need to brace myself to get all those potential waifu endings that I missed. Not really thrilled to do the 7th floor boss fight again though :/ __________________

2016-10-23, 20:45	Link #559
ThereminVox Guess what time it is? Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Age: 38	Finished up at last. Boy, if you thought the "prologue" of the first game was comically time-consuming, wait til you see Spoiler for ToCS2: the "epilogue" of 2. Somehow I missed a treasure chest or two somewhere, but there's always the Nightmare playthrough. Trails games have mastered the combo punch of reveals. First they feint you with a reveal that you may have anticipated so that you settle in with that "I knew it!" feeling, and then, just when you feel comfortable that you're a clever kid, they'll hit you with one or two in succession that you never saw coming. Overall I'm satisfied with 2 as a continuation. It may have been more illustrative of the product to go with the Trails in the Sky naming convention of calling the second game "Second Chapter" since there is a lot of reuse of locations and enemy types. This really only got disappointing when a few bosses returned which really ought to have been one-offs to keep them special. The fact that their skills and scripts were frequently identical to the previous game was a bit of a bummer. On the plus side, the Shrines stand in for the crawling that was done in the Old Schoolhouse floors in game one, and I consider it an upgrade. The shrines had a bit more character to them, whereas I came to dread the monthly schoolhouse crawls in the first game. There were some great new characters brought in, with Duvalie, Mcburn and Altina probably being the standouts to me. I thought that they also built the relationship with Rean and his family well. NPC dialogue is probably the best I've seen in a localized Trails game, and that is saying a LOT. Laughed out loud at a lot of good quips, callbacks, and moments that would only make sense if you are a crazy person like me who talks to every NPC each time they have something new to say, and follows along with their stories. The attention to detail in even the most tertiary characters' narratives sets the Trails games apart, and this game is on point with that stuff. I played both games on the Vita. Much like ToCS1 the second game chugs and drops frames noticeably during exceptionally busy panning shots (Heimdallr is bad for this,) and at least one large particle effect storm created by a huge boss' death throes. I never had any problems while actually controlling the game, and these slow-downs seemed restricted to a few cutscenes and scripted moments which taxed the hardware, so they never actually bothered me.

2016-10-24, 17:28	Link #560
rladls2121 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: California(Current).	For some reason I would like to see Heiyue in the next game. I really liked Cao Lee talking with Lloyd and the others from Zero, Ao and Sen II. He was really entertaining. Well it is unlikely for them to appear since they are more focused on Calvard. Was there a reference about Revanche in Sen I and II? Revanche was the criminal organization from Crossbell that used the weapons from Erebonia after all. Revanche really gave Lloyd and the others see Erebonia's bad side. Talking about that kind of topic to Class VII only makes them really feel bad about it. And since Garcia from Revanche was one of the former comrades of West Wind Brigade after all. Lloyd would let Fie visit Garcia if he knows about it. Alisa's father, just who is he? We still haven't heard why he is gone. And he resembles someone from Zero no Kiseki. I wonder if i'm right about if Alisa's father is someone who i think he is? Last edited by rladls2121; 2016-10-24 at 17:55.