2013-12-10, 20:29 | Link #1322 | |
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You visited Chinese forum, and they were telling you there was a bigger boss than Kongou's Fog FarEast(Japan) Fleet. Even 5 mental models are onboard, this fleet easily blow the team away. Kongou is upset as a motorcycle gang. So, you are certain they are BS you, because Fog Pacific Fleet is not in the manga. Yes, there's no American Fleet in the anime and manga. I heard Maya is just fake. Got to catch up the episode.
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2013-12-10, 20:59 | Link #1325 | |
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I haven't read the part about people mentioning a even bigger boss than Kongo will appear in the last episode, I think most people are just joking about Takao on the Chinese forum and busy crying a funeral for her.
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2013-12-11, 09:01 | Link #1329 |
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As I get it, a ship cannot die unless the core itself is destroyed. However, for it to perform as anything more than a processor backup it needs nanomaterial to manipulate; without a supply of nanomaterial a stripped ship has no way to interact directly with others or fight. Thus,
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One other thing. The hypothermia medical guide was quite amusing. "EMBRACING EACH OTHER WARM NAKED RECOMMENDED" indeed. And the girl's processors must be failing if she doesn't realize that if she can simulate metabolic heat production from her body, she should be able to produce the same heat from the clothes made from her body. |
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2013-12-11, 10:21 | Link #1331 |
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Isn't the idea is to not waste Iona's energy to heat anything? Thus, even if Iona's able to produce the same heat from her clothes, Gunzou wouldn't permit it anyway coz it's still consuming her energy.
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2013-12-11, 10:29 | Link #1332 | |
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As for Takao, I wouldn't be surprised if they get a hold of more nanomaterials at the end (even if in an epilogue after the war) and bring her back to life, even if they have to fish her core out of the bottom of the ocean. |
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2013-12-11, 11:53 | Link #1333 |
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I have a few questions because there are a few things I don't quite understand.
1. Why was Takao's sacrifice necessary? I understand not going into submarine mode when the situation was unclear but when Gunzou was found why not rescue them in battleship mode by submerging and launching a rescue that way instead of setting everyone adrift in life boats and donating all of her nanomaterials to Iona? While epically romantic didn't that make them more vulnerable? 2. Maya. i thought it was established that mental models were processor heavy and thus only certain ships can have one and only really large ships can have more than one. So where did the processing power for Maya come from along with her vessel? 3. If the 400 series can lock down the functions of a fog ship and do so when they believe a ship has deviated from the FOG then why were Takao and Hyuuga allowed to roam free? Shouldn't the 400 series have at least locked down Takao? 4. If Maya really was nothing but an Ai routine to observe Kongou then since she has been with Kongou since before any encounters with Gunzou, does that mean that the 400 series believed something was wrong with Kongou before the series even started, something so serious that it required these extraordinary measures?
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2013-12-11, 12:27 | Link #1334 |
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No Takao! T_T Your sacrifice was not in vain! Heavy Cruiser submarine will live one with you.
Ok, so Maya wasn't real mental model but some fake AI? I find this redundant since Mental models are technically AIs.
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Wait, did Iona just grow a chimney?
Seriously, they just had to find an excuse to make this episode as dramatic as possible, but surprisingly the whole sacrifice thing was executed very well and I really enjoyed it! Expect to see Takao's core speaking up next week Also, kudos to the studio for paying so much attention to details. I had a nice surprise seeing Gunzou's breath start turning to fog, but the later scenes where Iona brought out a shiny/metal plated blanket to wrap around Gunzou completely left me in awe! Not sure if they really use that type of blanket on submarines, but that's a correct way to reduce radiation that initiates heat transfer. Iona really knows her stuff Quote:
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2013-12-11, 13:52 | Link #1336 | |
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Also, concerning why Takao had to sacrifice herself, I believe Iona had been all but out of energy, severely lacking in nanomaterials due to damage and the need to purge all areas that'd been overridden, and ultimately had used the last of her own energies and materials to protect Gunzou and keep him alive, thus the reason she'd been diminished to a mere core: she used up her body and had nothing left. On top of that, one may notice that Gunzou was, if alive, only barely so. It's highly doubtful that Takao would have the time to go back and take the whole ship down, pick them up and return before brain death occured. The very fact that Iona had exhausted her power showed just how desperate his situation was even without direct inspection. On top of that, while billions of separate particles moving rapidly may not be detected, 400 and 402 would certainly have noticed an intact heavy battleship descending. If you add in any measures she might take to try and avoid detection, it probably took a matter of nanoseconds for Takao to determine that the only unit capable of saving Gunzou with any level of certainty was Iona. As for the massive authority given 400 and 402, I suspect that it was similar to one of those directives that transfer authority from one individual to another when an individual is deemed unfit to lead. Once Kongo's authority was transferred, so were the authority to place locks and restrictions on the other cruisers. Last edited by Seiryuu; 2013-12-11 at 14:15. |
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2013-12-11, 15:29 | Link #1337 |
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Why didn't 400 and 402 just spend 2 more torpedoes and destroy 401 completely? Are they not smart enough to calculate there a chance of rescue when Takao is coming fast towards the rendezvous point? What a waste of effort they spent monitoring Kongo and let the big fish escape.
Still, the concept of a 5-cored submarine-battleship is scary as hell in Arpeggio terms. 1 core for primary weaponry (Kirishima), 1 core for defence (Haruna), 1 core for ship integrity (Takao), 1 core for sensory and dectection (Iona), they will even have 1 spare core to hack other ships (Hyuuga). Oh...and the human crew, they can just sit back and watch a movie or something. |
2013-12-11, 17:59 | Link #1339 | |
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2013-12-11, 20:55 | Link #1340 | |
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It's the same way the bad guys always assume the good guy is dead when the good guy jumped off a cliff and into the water. The audience is conditioned to "dramatic (fake) death scene". I'll be surprised if one day the good guy actually died after escaping from the bad guys in some dramatic fashion. |
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