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~~Rachy~~ · 2005-12-21, 01:24

When the 3rd used the death god jutsu to cut the arms off orochimarus soul does that mean orochimaru cant use his arms ever again ? even after changing bodies.. because it was the arms of his soul and he changes his soul to another body, itd still have no arms ?

Sorry if thats a little unclear, i hate wording my thoughts.

degeros · 2005-12-21, 01:41

It appears that Orochimaru can use his arms when he is in the prisoner's body, so I'm assuming that he can still use his arms after he switches into another body. Besides, he told Tsunade that there was another way to restore his arms, so switching bodies is probably it.

~~Rachy~~ · 2005-12-21, 01:48

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It appears that Orochimaru can use his arms when he is in the prisoner's body

? can you give an example of him doing so ?

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he told Tsunade that there was another way to restore his arms, so switching bodies is probably it.

But he'd never seen the jutsu before how would he know what fixes it ?

Rurik · 2005-12-21, 08:29

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? can you give an example of him doing so ?

Well, It seems he can move them, but thats about it, I guess that arms without soul (I still don't get that notion) in this series can't do Jutsus...after all Sandaime was aiming at disable Oro from doing any Jutsu.

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But he'd never seen the jutsu before how would he know what fixes it ?

Guess he knows better his jutsus, What I think is that Oro Only transfers the most important aspects to the host body (Like Chakra Capacity and knowlledge) rather than the whole package , so maybe when he transfer himself, Arms and Legs for instance, ar not that important.

Not to mention that when Oro transfer to a host body, it seems this body does not looses his soul.

~~Rachy~~ · 2005-12-21, 08:34

Im still unclear *scratches head*

But thank you rurik and degeros for answering ^_^

Yellow Flash · 2005-12-21, 09:30

Um, no. From the Third's curse, Orochimaru can't use handseals for ninjutsu, and he can't even move his arms. The manga proved this.
Apperantly, the kinjutsu to switch bodies does not require handseals, and that's why Oro is still alive.
In his new body, Oro can use his arms again. That's just the way it is, don't ask for an explanation.

~~Rachy~~ · 2005-12-21, 09:34

Maybe we should make this question a discussion thread ^^.

certainly different opinons on the matter n_n.

Rurik · 2005-12-21, 13:37

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Um, no. From the Third's curse, Orochimaru can't use handseals for ninjutsu, and he can't even move his arms. The manga proved this.
Apperantly, the kinjutsu to switch bodies does not require handseals, and that's why Oro is still alive.
In his new body, Oro can use his arms again. That's just the way it is, don't ask for an explanation.

He can move his arms, but with a lot of effort and pain.

Hunter · 2005-12-21, 17:01

Anyway the seal was killing him, that's why he had to change his body quickly.
If being in another body hadn't removed the seal Orochimaru would have died by now.

~~Rachy~~ · 2005-12-21, 17:09

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Anyway the seal was killing him, that's why he had to change his body quickly.
If being in another body hadn't removed the seal Orochimaru would have died by now.

maybe it was the bodies fault not the souls.

i really dont see how u can put a soul with no arms into another body and it somehow has arms again -.- , dont make sense lol.

Yellow Flash · 2005-12-21, 17:11

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i really dont see how u can put a soul with no arms into another body and it somehow has arms again -.- , dont make sense lol.

The immortality spell would heal his soul since it is a fusion technique. Not only that, but dreams, wishes etc. of the person will become part of Orochimaru.

~~Rachy~~ · 2005-12-21, 17:54

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The immortality spell would heal his soul since it is a fusion technique. Not only that, but dreams, wishes etc. of the person will become part of Orochimaru.

hmm i guess if orochimaru ever uses his arms again that must be the logic , seems kinda silly though.

Blaine · 2005-12-21, 18:01

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The immortality spell would heal his soul since it is a fusion technique. Not only that, but dreams, wishes etc. of the person will become part of Orochimaru.

If that is the case why did he waste time trying to get Tsunade to heal his arms? when he could have just transfered his soul.

~~Rachy~~ · 2005-12-21, 18:33

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If that is the case why did he waste time trying to get Tsunade to heal his arms? when he could have just transfered his soul.

Well maybe he thought with new arms he could wait for sasukes body longer ? o.o...

But really how could tsunade even heal his arms if it took "soul transfusion-ness"

MobiuS · 2005-12-21, 21:44

*watches as Kish falls into this huge plothole*

Tapp Zaddaz · 2005-12-22, 19:00

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If that is the case why did he waste time trying to get Tsunade to heal his arms? when he could have just transfered his soul.

Before he transfers his soul he first has to find a strong body thats suitable for a sannin and then when he does it hes stuck in that body for 3 years. It seems to me that just having Tsunade heal his arms would be faster/easier.

Slayerx · 2005-12-22, 19:56

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If that is the case why did he waste time trying to get Tsunade to heal his arms? when he could have just transfered his soul.

Well, Ochimaru probably realized that the curse was slowly killing him, and that it would take some time to obtain Sasuke's body... He porbably thought that he might not last long enough. I mean, you saw how in the rescue sasuke arc, Ochimaru was forced to change bodies just before sasuke arrived... had tsunade managed to heal his arms he would've been able to wait long enough to get sasuke to him, and he wouldn't have had to wait 3 years to change bodies

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But really how could tsunade even heal his arms if it took "soul transfusion-ness"

Well, it could be one of those "if she can't do it no body can"... kinda of a last ditch effort for ochimaru...
It could be that even if she couldn't restore his arms, she could have probably atleast prevent his death

degeros · 2005-12-22, 21:59

Well, if he can't move his arms, it would be rather difficult to get into the position he was sitting in during Chapter 201.

Shining Celebi · 2005-12-25, 13:21

Orochimaru can move his arms. He lifts them up in Chapter 163, page 4. It's just hard for him.

MooMooFarm · 2005-12-25, 22:06

Could be from the fact that he is actually sharing the body with the original host, but just suppressing it almost completely, using the hosts soul to move the arms.

2005-12-21, 01:24	Link #1
~~Rachy~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: sasuke's lap	When the 3rd used the death god jutsu to cut the arms off orochimarus soul does that mean orochimaru cant use his arms ever again ? even after changing bodies.. because it was the arms of his soul and he changes his soul to another body, itd still have no arms ? Sorry if thats a little unclear, i hate wording my thoughts.

2005-12-21, 01:41	Link #2
degeros Sinner Join Date: Jan 2004	It appears that Orochimaru can use his arms when he is in the prisoner's body, so I'm assuming that he can still use his arms after he switches into another body. Besides, he told Tsunade that there was another way to restore his arms, so switching bodies is probably it.

2005-12-21, 08:34	Link #5
~~Rachy~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: sasuke's lap	Im still unclear scratches head But thank you rurik and degeros for answering ^_^

2005-12-21, 09:30	Link #6
Yellow Flash Banned Join Date: Dec 2005	Um, no. From the Third's curse, Orochimaru can't use handseals for ninjutsu, and he can't even move his arms. The manga proved this. Apperantly, the kinjutsu to switch bodies does not require handseals, and that's why Oro is still alive. In his new body, Oro can use his arms again. That's just the way it is, don't ask for an explanation.

2005-12-21, 09:34	Link #7
~~Rachy~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: sasuke's lap	Maybe we should make this question a discussion thread ^^. certainly different opinons on the matter n_n.

2005-12-21, 17:01	Link #9
Hunter Bubbly and super fun Join Date: May 2003 Location: Doesn't look like Kansas	Anyway the seal was killing him, that's why he had to change his body quickly. If being in another body hadn't removed the seal Orochimaru would have died by now.

2005-12-21, 21:44	Link #15
MobiuS Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	watches as Kish falls into this huge plothole

2005-12-22, 21:59	Link #18
degeros Sinner Join Date: Jan 2004	Well, if he can't move his arms, it would be rather difficult to get into the position he was sitting in during Chapter 201.

2005-12-25, 13:21	Link #19
Shining Celebi a Join Date: May 2004	Orochimaru can move his arms. He lifts them up in Chapter 163, page 4. It's just hard for him.

2005-12-25, 22:06	Link #20
MooMooFarm Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004	Could be from the fact that he is actually sharing the body with the original host, but just suppressing it almost completely, using the hosts soul to move the arms.