(L) Shokugeki no Soma [Manga]

[Proto]

Because 2/100 points is an UNSURMOUNTABLE BARRIER that can only be surpassed by the power of EXTREME training and shounen. I mean cmon.

[huynhlan]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Why do you assume Souma will beat Alice in the final? Because I'm pretty sure he won't.

How is he going to add her into his harem otherwise then? If he can't beat alice, he have no chance with erina and you and me both know he is going to beat erina too if he want to add her. Beside the main dish for this arc is the ninith seat guy after all, so him losing in the final mean he won't even get an unofficial match with the guy.

[erdii]

well I can accpet Souma lost here but I hope after this loss he will win this tournament

[Sarun]

I did mention before Soma might not be able to easily challenge or beat top level 2nd years and 3rd years.

But thinking about that more, it seems Soma's generation is a golden one type. Look at the number of high scores in the prelimins after saying 50 or 60 are good to pass in some years.

[Log]

Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

If Erina being a faster chef automatically make her superior to Soma than your first point failed as you contradict yourself already plus considering the fact that Erina wasn't even in his block for him to compete against. Inexperienced is a flaw but that doesn't say anything about Soma's culinary skill is below that of Erina, he was able to steal most if not nearly all of Erina's guests by that point. Given the times limit he has and still able to accomplished it if anything it heavily implied Soma's dish is better than Erina's is the reason why he able to finished 200 dish and mind you, Erina is right next to Soma. It has been hyped time and time that Soma's culinary skill is better than her while only it the ability as a professional chef is questionable next to hers AKA the experiences. Current arc's main antagonist is the 9th seat, someone higher than Erina and Soma already beaten him one time.

How did I contradict myself?

He was able to steal Erina's guests because he was showing of his cooking and most of the people there already tasted Erina's dish there was no indication that Souma's dish was tastier then Erina.

Souma's talent might be better then her but currently his skill level isn't. At best he's around her level.

Originally Posted by huynhlan

You do bring up a lot of good point but let me ask you something then, if in the final souma beat alice, then would you consider it an a$$pull? cause according to you alice is above souma, so unless souma have some kind of training which require months or something, he won't be able to beat alice but if the next round and final only take place like a few day away, then souma being able to beat her in the final, wouldn't it be a$$pull.

No.

Cooking is at it's base subjective, and one can improve a dish with just a slight change. Just because Souma lost to Alice and Hayama this time doesn't mean that he's in a completely different skill tier then they are. They're all close to each other in skill level so the match between them would be up to grabs.

Originally Posted by noobita

Sure that Soma lost in the buffet competition but that was because his inexprience towards buffet style, not his food. His culinary skill is extremely good that he even stole Erina's customers, right under her nose. Time limit is the only thing stopped him from racking more plates. Even so, loss is loss but the impact of him losing wasnt that great because Alice doesnt go around him and throw a big middle finger on Soma like everyone did.

However this isnt the same for Hayama. Hayama openly declared that he will make Soma his bitch with his curry, and Soma's response? Soma wants to make Hayama his bitch with his curry too, and now he lost and became Hayama's bitch. All almighty attitude and declaration, Soma failed. The impact of humilation is so big at here. Not to mention Hayama is just a mid boss in this arc.

What?

I don't see anything in this chapter that indicated that Hayama made Souma his bitch. If anything it established that Souma is his match.

Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

In contrast, Mondaiji is enjoyable because of Izayoi being the invincible badass that he is. Soma is in the same category with Izayoi, who is this designated badass protagonist. We aren't asking Soma to be all mighty and supreme skilled, you do see any of us complained when Soma lose to his father? No, because that lost is acceptable because his father haxz and but when it come to these student, they are fodders and steps to his path to reach his father and defeat him.

So we should have 200 chapters of no tension cooking contest where Souma just owns everyone and 10 chapters of tense Souma vs his dad contest which everyone knows will end in Souma's victory.

Because that sounds like exactly what you're saying this manga should be.

Whatever I guess. To each their own.

[huynhlan]

Originally Posted by Log

Cooking is at it's base subjective, and one can improve a dish with just a slight change. Just because Souma lost to Alice and Hayama this time doesn't mean that he's in a completely different skill tier then they are. They're all close to each other in skill level so the match between them would be up to grabs.

but here is the thing, we don't even know if alice was trying her very best or not this time and she pretty much beat everyone. souma on the other hand was trying his very best to best someone who he challenge, this is not the case for alice. Her attitude point toward her having no need and no worry at all, so for all we know she use like 85 percent of her skill for the first round, while souma uses 100% and still lose, so him beating her in the final without any magical improvement would be consider bs.

[Kirihara_R]

haha not good , we already assuming who's number 1 with just the result of the first round. Why did the author continue this tournament then? if the reader already knows who's gonna win ..

[ellifeedn]

Despite everyone's complaints, it didn't look like Souma is taking this as a major loss. Also, I found the judges's reaction to Souma's dish to be hilarious.

[Homura7]

So tsundere.

[greensoulreaper]

Originally Posted by ellifeedn

Despite everyone's complaints, it didn't look like Souma is taking this as a major loss. Also, I found the judges's reaction to Souma's dish to be hilarious.

Souma learns from failure, so every loss counts as experience because he knows what to avoid and what he can do to make the dish better. By the end of this manga, he'll have a really impressive repertoire of knowledge and skill, gained from not just his own experience but the dishes of his opponents as well. Souma's specialty is being a well rounded cook since he helps his father run a specialty of the day shop - his strength is being able to cook many things, not just one type like the others are specialized in. Whoever goes up against him will have to top that if they want to beat him. He is almost a cooking god in the making.

For someone who doesn't specialize in curry...to be a point under Hayama who is a curry expert, that is pretty damn impressive, and I think a lot of people around Souma, including Erina who is such an elitist, recognize how capable he is because he was able to get such a score. If curry was all Souma cooked, I'm betting Hayama would be in the dust by now.

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by greensoulreaper

Souma learns from failure, so every loss counts as experience because he knows what to avoid and what he can do to make the dish better. By the end of this manga, he'll have a really impressive repertoire of knowledge and skill, gained from not just his own experience but the dishes of his opponents as well. Souma's specialty is being a well rounded cook since he helps his father run a specialty of the day shop - his strength is being able to cook many things, not just one type like the others are specialized in. Whoever goes up against him will have to top that if they want to beat him. He is almost a cooking god in the making.

For someone who doesn't specialize in curry...to be a point under Hayama who is a curry expert, that is pretty damn impressive, and I think a lot of people around Souma, including Erina who is such an elitist, recognize how capable he is because he was able to get such a score. If curry was all Souma cooked, I'm betting Hayama would be in the dust by now.

I agree, I find it very odd that people stated that losing to Hayama means Souma's work is a failure. Souma is well rounded, he does not have a specialty like curry or scents like Hayama. Souma is a great chef with an impressive learning curve. Majority of the students, even Alice and Erina, were expose to up scaled cooking and had influences and prestige to gather the best learning resources around them. Souma had his father whom I believe learnt most of his skills from simple advice and observation than actual teaching.

Also, regarding people stating Alice isn't worried about these competitions. No matter what personality Alice has, she is not a real chef if she does not take challenges seriously. She is serious with all her dishes and put in her best effort despite her aloof personality.

[n0m@n]

So the Top-8 is...

Group A:
1.) Hayama
2.) Souma
2.) Kurokiba
4.) Mysterious Ape

Group B:
1.) Alice
2.) Hisako
3.) Takumi
4.) Megumi


If we go by soccer tournament's logic, it will be..

Match 1) A1 vs B4
Match 2) A2 vs B3
Match 3) A3 vs B2
Match 4) A4 vs B1


So it will turn out like...
Match 1) Hayama vs Megumi
Match 2) Souma or Kurokiba vs Takumi
Match 3) Souma or Kurokiba vs Hisako
Match 4) Mysterious Ape vs Alice.
(Ones in bold are the ones I think will win).

Unless it turns out like tenkaichi budokai where the final 8 draws a ball to choose their match...

[araragi92]

I think it will be Block A vs Block B for the main tournament or maybe a mixture.

My prediction:

Kurokiba (Alice's aide) vs Hisako (Erina's aide): indirect duel between Erina and Alice.

Takumi vs Souma: the last time it was a tie, there were hints in the previous chapters + competition between the both.

Megumi vs Hayama: souma will probably have a duel against Hayama and Alice in the next rounds, so hayama vs alice is very unlikely.

Alice vs new guy (likely Eizan's aide)

Next round:

Hayama vs Souma
Alice vs Hisako

Final:

Alice vs Souma

[GreyZone]

I repeat it once again: Curry guy was not convinced that he "totally PWNED" Souma.

Why are people assuming such strange things? The scene was awkward for both of them, so much that they seemed to completely forget about their competetition. They just couldn't take the judges' viewpoints as referees for their contest anymore. At least for me it looked like that.

Also a lot of people seem to be missing the point: Saying that the scores are the author's way of tellings us the "power levels" of the contestants seems wrong, considering that this chapter threw the fact into our faces that the judges' personal preferences are making the difference, not the micro-differences between the cooks' cooking skills!



So the last guy had 91 points and became 4th, right? He had lower scores than Souma, for the entrance of a "new bad guy" that seems a bit unusual, because usually new villains somehow get more points than the protagonists or at least an equal amount, to make them look more dangerous.

[hamazura]

i dont think souma will duel hayama again.
maybe against one of aide. and then takumi, and then lose to alice
and i dont know why but i have a feeling todokoro will duel against erina's slave.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by hamazura

i dont think souma will duel hayama again.
maybe against one of aide. and then takumi, and then lose to alice
and i dont know why but i have a feeling todokoro will duel against erina's slave.

Probably because both of their cooking theme related to hospitality and health.

And maybe, if Megumi defeated Erina's aide, Erina probably will notice her "threat" existence, not as a chef, but potential girl to steal Soma from her.

Erina: Damn that town girl...how dare that she has the conversation with Soma without any shame. What a shameless slut. Huh? Huh? What? She is sharing the same kitchen as Soma? And..and what is that...why is Soma holding that town girl's hand?...GRRRRRRRR! I WILL DESTROY YOU, TOWN GIRL! I WILL!*stalking them with her binocular on the of the tree far far away from the Polar Star Dorm*

[Iamis]

Originally Posted by noobita

Probably because both of their cooking theme related to hospitality and health.

And maybe, if Megumi defeated Erina's aide, Erina probably will notice her "threat" existence, not as a chef, but potential girl to steal Soma from her.

Erina: Damn that town girl...how dare that she has the conversation with Soma without any shame. What a shameless slut. Huh? Huh? What? She is sharing the same kitchen as Soma? And..and what is that...why is Soma holding that town girl's hand?...GRRRRRRRR! I WILL DESTROY YOU, TOWN GIRL! I WILL!*stalking them with her binocular on the of the tree far far away from the Polar Star Dorm*

Erina Acting like Nao would be hilarious

[hamazura]

souma onii-sama

[aohige]

So, guess what I spent the morning doing?

Making the Aldini Tomato Curry Calzone!



Now, I made some touch of my own, since I don't have the skillset of the Aldini brothers.
I did keep the most important part though, use only the water from tomatoes.

Brief instructions.... (with pics)

Part 1 - the sauce

Spoiler:

1. Thaw a loaf of frozen bread bun (room temperature thawing can take 3 hours, I shortended it by defrosting in the microwave for 2min, and thawing for 1 hr)
2. simmer tomatoes in a cook pot. When the skin is loose, peel them off and put the tomatoes back in the pot. (squeeze the skin for extra tomato-y water!). Make tomato sauce as usual, but you can leave out spices since we're adding curry. I did use some garlic and herbs though.
3. Dice some onions, fry them with sausage, and add to the pot.
4. Add curry (I used curry roux since that's easiest, but you can use curry powder + flour as well)

Part 2 - the bun

Spoiler:

1. Split the thawed bun into 1/3 (one meal)
2. Stretch it with a roller
3. Add the sauce
4. Top some mozzarella cheese and pepperoni
5. Fold it, and press the closed edges with fork for patterns
6. Brush beaten eggs on top of the bun. I also sprinkled a bit of mozzarella to give crusty baked cheese.

It was awesome. Very tomato, yet very curry.
I didn't post the amount of ingredient or recipe because I kinda cook by feeling and add as I go.

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by n0m@n

Match 4) Mysterious Ape vs Alice.
(Ones in bold are the ones I think will win).

Unless it turns out like tenkaichi budokai where the final 8 draws a ball to choose their match...

Extremely unlikely. Dreadlocks Ape is clearly Eizan's 'dragon/aide' who is sent to defeat Souma. There's no in-story rationale that he would be introduced as this mystery entry, only to be wrecked by Alice in the first elimination.

I don't know how the tournament brackets will be laid out, but I'd think it's a good guess that these 3 will be part of the Best 4.

1. Alice (Erina's rival and arguably the strongest non-Elite 10 freshman)
2. Souma ( main character plot armor )
3. Dreadlocks Ape ( the mid-boss of this arc, needs to beat someone strong to prove his threat and credibility for when he faces Souma in the semi-finals )
4. no idea.

Who I think will be eliminated at the quarter-finals.

1. Hayama ( he's proven his worth, and is now established as a worthy rival. He's also already fought in his best specialty, so imo he's the best character to get jobbed to dreadlocks atm )
2. Megumi ( I don't see how she can beat any of the remaining 7 without an asspull. I'd say she pulls an admirable match against either Alice, Kurokiba or Hisako and garners respect from the top-tier )