Hanasaku Iroha (generic discussion thread)

[karuroso]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF awesome yuri delusion omg if only this series was a yuri revolving a triangle betewen Ohana x Nako x Minchi i.i if only... *go cries in a corner*

and wet Nako is so damn hawt

[germanturkey]

i actually thought this ep was pretty strong. it had a mix of elements that were placed together really really well. plus the yuri scene was amazing. haha.

the message from Ko came at a good moment i think. it came when she was actually tested, and had just finished reading what Minko wrote about her. plus her explanation about how she values every text from him now was fitting with the evening (cause reading cellphone messages in the dark make them that much better) and he wished her luck with her desire to be better.

[ThereminVox]

Spoiler for ep03:

While it seems weird to do what feels like a breather episode so early in the run, and I certainly wasn't sure what to make of the shift in tone early on, I found a lot to enjoy here.

I could have cheered when Nako tossed Ohana her robes, if only because you could see what was coming, and it was such a great payoff after watching her slink nervously around the inn for two episodes. Go Nako! The eyes when Ohana (rather casually, if you ask me) described the "novel" and the various props involved... I guess you can't shock Ohana with things she's probably heard from her mother anyway. Good! We have enough naive heroines. Who taught her bondage, though?

I also agree with Ohana's assessment of Minchi's insult research. It's kind of sweet in a twisted way that she puts so much effort into properly hating her, rather than cruelly.

This was a great commercial for that inn, though. They're pretty nice to the guy considering he's a creepy dude who writes orgy pr0n starring their underage waitstaff. Talk about your focus on customer service. Yuck.

Given the amount of development we've seen in Ohana's relationships with her co-workers already, it seems like we're going to be spending a lot of time at school before this cour is over. Nako's reveal in particular seems like something you'd hold onto for a while.

Having said all of that, this episode was a bit weak compared to the last two. But that's a fairly high bar.

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by felix

*reads complains*
Uh— have I missed something

But it was service episode, it’s not like I was expecting anything resembling plot;

Frankly that was a tad too silly and illogical, even for a service episode.

*rings a bell*
Didn't miss anything, it seems, since those are the two major reasons there are complaints.


*looks aside*
I had a bad feeling when they announced it was 2-cour. Heck, I think I predicted (posted that) this type of episode would happen because there were too many episodes.

[germanturkey]

the point of a slice of life show is that every episode can be standalone and self contained. the first few eps are usually an exception because they need to develop the plot. even a "coming of age" classification can put it along the same path. every episode just needs to have examples that develop character. this show will probably not be a story driven show. if you're expecting that, you'll probably be let down. it will most likely be a character driven show.

its like Aria. you can watch any episode from any season except the first few of The Animation and the last few of Origination and it'll won't matter what order you watch it in, because it'll still make sense. that's the beauty of a character driven show.

[ThereminVox]

Forgot to add: Can we nominate this episode for Worst "High-Speed" Car Chase of the Year? Complete with adhering to traffic signals?

[Soliloquy]

Two episodes were very much grounded in reality and the third one was quite melodramatic because of the novelist. Still, it's nothing for me to complain about. I was quite amused to see the novelist acts completely like Satou Tatsuhiro, jumping to conclusion, erratic and quite paranoid, even threatening to kill himself on the cliff.

I do have to say in the terms of plot, it's a barebone, still you get to know more about the other characters. It was interesting. The whole series is intriguing as it is depicted almost realistically, yet the main character acts so maturely, it's hard to look at her as teenager girl. Especially in the 3rd episode, she had that much insight to provide a solution to this episode. In fact, the one who acted like a teenager the most were that Minchi girl at least from my observation.

[Kaoru Chujo]

I liked ep3. They just advanced the character in a slightly (but only slightly) different way. Now we know that Ohana has a special personality, full of energy, determination, and positivity, that she can help others, and that her grandmother knows it.

I knew at the end of the previous episode that there would be some comic way of escaping the clearly non-dangerous predator. It always baffles me when people want total realism in the fantasy medium of anime. Ohana's calm dealing with the situation is to be taken as showing her strength and ability, and her compassion.

Now, I myself do not like to see bondage, and wish they had found some other way to do this. But that's just a personal preference, and I think the sequence works.

Even Shakespeare's tragedies mix serious and comic scenes. There, it is not thought of as spoiling the mood, but as providing emotional variety for the audience.

As far as I am concerned, this show is maintaining its high standards so far.

[ApostleOfGod]

i have a question for anyone to answer

that line spoken during ep 3 by granny

Spoiler for ep3:

"Sticking is not by strength but by the guiding of the gully" the scene is directly after granny is doing that traditional memorial to her husband speaking about how Ohana is the splitting image of satsuki (presumably her daughter and ohanas mom), and that beanman guy or whatever he is comes in

ive googled it, found that its in like some old scottish text

can anyone give me a straightforward / simple explanation as to what that meant

or if not just translate it for me in a different format, that idiom/statement or watever u want to call it is a bit confusing for me :s

thanks

Originally Posted by karuroso

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF awesome yuri delusion omg if only this series was a yuri revolving a triangle betewen Ohana x Nako x Minchi i.i if only... *go cries in a corner*

and wet Nako is so damn hawt

LOL +1

when nako says minchi theres a shiver that runs right down my spine

[Kismet-chan]

I thought it was a good episode. It's very amusing that the author wasn't what we initially thought. I like how they set it up. And we got a bit of character development from Ohana, Minko (made a true effort to stop saying "Die" because it was too harsh), Nako, and even the Grandmother I think.

Can't wait for next weekend's episode.

[ZODDGUTS]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

*rings a bell*
Didn't miss anything, it seems, since those are the two major reasons there are complaints.


*looks aside*
I had a bad feeling when they announced it was 2-cour. Heck, I think I predicted (posted that) this type of episode would happen because there were too many episodes.

Cross Game had 50 eps yet I don't remember it having a out of place ep heck even the filler eps were surprisingly good. The writer of the anime did a great job making sure those filler eps were align in tone with the non filler eps. Anyways just hope there aren't any more out of place eps like ep 3.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by ApostleOfGod

i have a question for anyone to answer. that line spoken during ep 3 by granny..."Sticking is not by strength but by the guiding of the gully" the scene is directly after granny is doing that traditional memorial to her husband speaking about how Ohana is the splitting image of satsuki (presumably her daughter and ohanas mom), and that beanman guy or whatever he is comes in....

The sub's translation is apparently totally wrong. Here is what she says and its meaning, from an online dictionary:

馬鹿と鋏は使い様 【ばかとはさみはつかいよう】 (exp) (id) Everything comes in handy when rightly used

That actually makes sense.

[destiny4everlove]

Episode 3

Spoiler:

The more I watch this anime the more I like it .

We had some very nice developments during this episode and the comedy was just right. For instance during this scene :

Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

Watching this episode reminded me of “Honey and Clover”, reminded me of an awesome slice of life anime with just right amount of comedy.

- After watching this episode I don’t dislike the novelist as much as I did last episode. Thanks to him I had some laughs, plus thanks to his craziness and ecchiness (even though it was in an indirect way) we got to see that the grandma does care for her granddaughter and that Ohana is more similar to her mother than she realizes; so …he did gain some minor points with me.

- And wow…shy and timid Nako looked so awesome while rescuing the novelist and she is totally a bishojo. I’m officially curious about her now and I would like to know more about her.

[TurkeyPotPie]

When I saw the episode title, I thought Ohana was going to pull a switcheroo on Minko and serve her balut instead of spinach since surely Minko wouldn't be so naive as to actually tell Ohana what her least favorite dish was...but no, "balut" is simply Minko's new insulting term for Ohana? Wut? Some very mild mannered girls here.

[OceanBlue]

Aside from the "sudden mood shift" [which, in my opinion, is somewhat exaggerated], my problem with the episode is that it seemed more self-contained than every other episode. They spent a lot of time on this episode building up to a scene which wasn't that great, as opposed to the previous episodes where most of the episodes was spent developing the narrative.

I can understand that, with 26 episodes, it'll be hard to have constant plot going on and on [and it's possible that they were trying to keep things lighthearted for that reason], but not only was the episode standalone aside from small bits of development, it wasn't that interesting either. It was still a good episode, but not to the standards of the previous two.

Well, I'm still looking forward to the next episode. I have no idea what's going to happen though, other than them going to school, because of this episode.

[DragoZERO]

Awesome, so awesome. The conclusion of it all, him not being a big shot, at all, and how even though it came down to Ohana in the end, it wasn't focused solely on her. And Kouichi's text was nice, good to see he isn't dropped from the equation entirely.

I really didn't think we'd get any service in this series, but boy did they deliver this time. I think it was the best this season.

The feel of this episode was definitely different, but it was the conclusion of the arc and they are usually a tad different.

My gripe is... why didn't Nako take off her bottoms when jumping into the ocean? She must be a really, really, really strong swimmer to be able to save someone with those on. Not to mention the waves and the thickness of the garment.

Originally Posted by Kanon

The only reason I'd say this episode felt disjointed is that it was too crazy at times. However, it was also crazy fun! That makes it very easy to forget about the ridiculousness of the whole situation. This episode was gold. Comedy gold, to be exact (and there was a good amount of character development too). If you didn't enjoy it, your loss. That doesn't mean it was bad or unfitting (I'd wager the writer knows better than us what does or doesn't fit this series).

Like how EVERYONE tagged along for the chase.

I was going to use this but figured I'd stick with classic Moka, so freebie:

[Guardian Enzo]

Well pretty much every opinion has already been stated by someone at this point, but FWIW I fall in with those that thought this was a real step down. My problem isn't with fanservice or a change of pace. My problem is that everyone in the cast appeared to be hit with a stupid stick. Third ep is pretty soon to to take characters you barely know and completely change the way they behave. Not to mention the failed author was so unsympathetic that it made Ohana's speech at the end very nearly puke-worthy.

Then, mysteriously, the series we thought we knew was re-born in the last two minutes, which were wonderful and seemed like part of a completely different series than the first 20. The good news is that this is a two-cour series that can afford a slip-up, and there's no reason to believe this is a death spiral - just a dip. Still, if everyone continues to behave as idiotically as they did for the bulk of the ep that's going to present a real problem. Fortunately I don't expect that to happen.

[applejuice]

Very strong episode. Finally, Hana-saku escaped from being done-100time-before-K/J-morning-drama, but became something I can enjoy. This was awesome.

[Reckoner]

Originally Posted by applejuice

Very strong episode. Finally, Hana-saku escaped from being done-100time-before-K/J-morning-drama, but became something I can enjoy. This was awesome.

It was never exactly a k/j-drama....

It was the type of anime we were sorely lacking before hand. This episode was almost like every other anime out there.

[Archon_Wing]

I spend all day reinstalling my programs and Windows and come back to... this?

Wow, lol. That was pretty awful. I mean disappointing plot, disappointing character, somewhat tasteless, and worse of all disappointing fanservice!

Actually I thought the first part was funny, because he was failing so hard at kidnapping and bondage that he had to be taught! What a non-threat. Sadly it goes downhill from there.

Anyhow, it's obvious they are painfully aware of the fact that good series cannot sell well without blatant pointles fanservice since the clientele is just like our writer here! But sadly, we didn't even get anything beyond a cocktease. Bleh, it's not like anything I haven't seen elsewhere. Maybe I should finish off Yosuga no Sora?

That's also gotta be the most boring car chase ever. Why is a good deal of the episode devoid of BGM? I mean, if they were going for ridiculous they might as well have gone for over the top ownage action, if that loser had died in an explosion, that's an easy 10/10.

Anyhow I was wondering when this episode was ending, and they have that pep talk. Wait, there's still 7 minutes left of this? But it's ok we get a pretty epic water rescue not unlike one from Yugioh the Abridged Series. Meh.

Anyhow the start, the end, and the scene where the old guy blushes when it's suggested he be tied up gets the episode a bonus 2 points. This episode gets a 3/10. It's up there with the Mai-HiME panty episode, except even more boring. But hey, nobody's perfect.