(L) Cross Game

[lixuelai]

Now this is finished I have to think long and hard how high I would put this on my Adachi Mitsuru ranking.

Anyway I hope this gets more people to check out the rest of Adachi Mitsuru's mangas. Hopefully more interest in older Misturu anime as well. Hiatari Ryoko should so be ENGLISH subbed :s

[The Rumblefish]

I don't understand what you are talking about, it was subbed. Professionally, too.

The only peculiarity is that you have to learn either Italian or French.

[Darknemo2000]

Originally Posted by BetoJR

Move along, then. And do not read any more of Adachi's mangas - you're bound to be underwhelmed again.

Too late for that. Read most of adachi works. I can't say I was particularly underwhelmed though because for that you need to expect anything big to begin with, its kind of hard to be underwhelmed when your expectations are low.

From his works H2, Rough, Miyuki and probably Cross Game are the ones I remember the most. Can't say that they were something great, but an average manga with pretty mediocre with some ups and downs plot. Still it is not necessarily a bad thing. Nothing great but nothing bad too.

I heard some complains about his artwork but in most cases it was pretty ok, simplistic but good enough to portray what the author need to portray. His style still remains the same even after 30 years or so. Don't know if its a good or a bad thing.The biggest grit would still be that his female and male characters are very similar (well side male characters are easier to tell apart since Adachi tends to draw those rather differently) and it becomes pretty clear when the girl has shorter, guy-like hair, like in cross game (in fact at first I had to re-read some parts of Cross Game since I could not tell if the character was supposed to be a female or male). Even though he does draw usually guys with more spiky hair and with bigger ears it doesnt really help all that much.

The only series of Adachi that I would call really below average (underwhelming if you might) so far is Q and A. Surprisingly, since it is his latest series, but so far almost everything in it seems bad, the only better thing about is that because heroine has longer hair I have less trouble to separate her from the guy lol. But maybe it is because the manga started recently and has a really slow pace. Maybe it will become better in the future. But so far it definitely one of Adachi's worst manga's (even humour is very plain and gets boring, forced and generally unfunny after the first 3 chapters).

[BetoJR]

Like I said, move along, then. This kind of series is not for you, obviously.

[Bath-Teth]

The end of a great ride, named Cross Game (well, I still have 7 Cross Game eps to look forward too. ).
Personnaly, I loved the ending. I was never a fan of those time-skip endings which shows the future/life of the main characters.
I don't need to know what happens to them as long as the relationships and goals/dreams set in the manga have a nice closure, which is certainly the case here with Cross Game.
Even Azuma, the only main protagonist left being single (I think it's fair to assume Akaishi and Akane will be going out) is left with a positive outlook. You just know he'll find happiness. I think he's one of the best friend/wing-man for a main character ever introduced in a manga. Who doesn't wish to have/be a friend like him.

Aoba and Koh so deserve each other (in a good way). They are two of my fave manga characters ever. As it happens, Cross Game is at or near the top of many of my favorite lists. Characters, dialogs/interaction, story/story twists you name them. In fact, I think the first volume and it's ending is one of the best I've read in a very long time. Its just meant to grab and hook the reader and once you're hooked Cross Game never let you go till the end.

Not to mention this manga has one of the best Anime adaptions I'ver ever seen of any manga. Those guys who do the Anime (forgot the studio) have done a tremendous job, being faithful to the source while adding a few well placed original eps., enhancing the experience of this story even more rather than tarnishing it like many other animes tend to do.

PS: I've seen some of you guys here have ARIA as one of your favorite manga/anime which means I like to read/watch it. I just want to know if I should read the manga first or try the anime. Thanks for any help.

[lixuelai]

Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

Too late for that. Read most of adachi works. I can't say I was particularly underwhelmed though because for that you need to expect anything big to begin with, its kind of hard to be underwhelmed when your expectations are low.

From his works H2, Rough, Miyuki and probably Cross Game are the ones I remember the most. Can't say that they were something great, but an average manga with pretty mediocre with some ups and downs plot. Still it is not necessarily a bad thing. Nothing great but nothing bad too.

I heard some complains about his artwork but in most cases it was pretty ok, simplistic but good enough to portray what the author need to portray. His style still remains the same even after 30 years or so. Don't know if its a good or a bad thing.The biggest grit would still be that his female and male characters are very similar (well side male characters are easier to tell apart since Adachi tends to draw those rather differently) and it becomes pretty clear when the girl has shorter, guy-like hair, like in cross game (in fact at first I had to re-read some parts of Cross Game since I could not tell if the character was supposed to be a female or male). Even though he does draw usually guys with more spiky hair and with bigger ears it doesnt really help all that much.

The only series of Adachi that I would call really below average (underwhelming if you might) so far is Q and A. Surprisingly, since it is his latest series, but so far almost everything in it seems bad, the only better thing about is that because heroine has longer hair I have less trouble to separate her from the guy lol. But maybe it is because the manga started recently and has a really slow pace. Maybe it will become better in the future. But so far it definitely one of Adachi's worst manga's (even humour is very plain and gets boring, forced and generally unfunny after the first 3 chapters).

Have you read Touch and Hiatari Ryoko? Particularly Touch. If you did not like Touch or even did not love it, Adachi Mitsuru is probably not for you.

[Darknemo2000]

I read Touch. It was ok. Again you people seem to think that just because I am not in love with Adachi I do not like it. I find his works to be average (but by average I do not mean it in bad way like most of you seem to have an impression) a kind of manga that you read to fill your time but do not really remember much after finishing. Easy read so to say, thus average.

The only one of Aadachi's manga's that I really did/do not like so far is the aforementioned Q and A, but it could be just the problems in pacing and that the story seems to be going nowhere so it may change sometime.

[joeboygo]

Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

Too late for that. Read most of adachi works. I can't say I was particularly underwhelmed though because for that you need to expect anything big to begin with, its kind of hard to be underwhelmed when your expectations are low.

From his works H2, Rough, Miyuki and probably Cross Game are the ones I remember the most. Can't say that they were something great, but an average manga with pretty mediocre with some ups and downs plot. Still it is not necessarily a bad thing. Nothing great but nothing bad too.

I heard some complains about his artwork but in most cases it was pretty ok, simplistic but good enough to portray what the author need to portray. His style still remains the same even after 30 years or so. Don't know if its a good or a bad thing.The biggest grit would still be that his female and male characters are very similar (well side male characters are easier to tell apart since Adachi tends to draw those rather differently) and it becomes pretty clear when the girl has shorter, guy-like hair, like in cross game (in fact at first I had to re-read some parts of Cross Game since I could not tell if the character was supposed to be a female or male). Even though he does draw usually guys with more spiky hair and with bigger ears it doesnt really help all that much.

The only series of Adachi that I would call really below average (underwhelming if you might) so far is Q and A. Surprisingly, since it is his latest series, but so far almost everything in it seems bad, the only better thing about is that because heroine has longer hair I have less trouble to separate her from the guy lol. But maybe it is because the manga started recently and has a really slow pace. Maybe it will become better in the future. But so far it definitely one of Adachi's worst manga's (even humour is very plain and gets boring, forced and generally unfunny after the first 3 chapters).

I'm curious now. Which manga would you consider great?

The reason I ask is because the manga market in Japan is as finely segmented as its porn market. Every conceivable preference and predilection has been identified and categorized so that the product can be targeted towards its audience with a level of efficiency that is rarely matched anywhere else in the world. A slight problem can arise when the manga is taken out of its local context and brought to a worldwide audience because the fine market segmentation is obscured (often deliberately) in an effort to broaden its commercial appeal. The long and short of it is that Adachi knows his audience and serves it well - the commercial success and recognition within the industry that he has achieved is proof positive of that fact. If you don't like his manga, then the problem may not lie with the manga but with your own personal preferences. You may simply not be part of Adachi's target audience. There's nothing wrong with that as there is no accounting for taste. But what Beto has been trying to tell you with fewer words is that maybe, you shouldn't be wasting your time reading stuff that you appear to know from the get-go you aren't going to enjoy very much, what with those low expectations and all.

[Jarppa]

Is h2 ending really that horrible. Thats only adachi manga that i havent read yet. Is it worth to read or does it leave you hating it?

[Darknemo2000]

Hmm a great manga? Ironically it would be a doujin - Re-Take (evangelion doujin) if you have ever heard of such. I usually like Usami Maki's manga's (shoujo artist) too.

But again why do you think I am wasting my time with this? I do not hate it. I just do not love it either - it is mean to pass the time. There are better manga's out there for me, but it doesn't mean that I had terrible time reading this either (except maybe Q and A) I just was not in awe with it.

[Kikuchi]

Originally Posted by Jarppa

Is h2 ending really that horrible.

No it's not. It could have been done better, that's for sure, but it's not horrible by any means and the whole manga is actually excellent.
If you like Adachi's works, it'se definitely a must-read.

[poko-kun]

Originally Posted by Jarppa

Is h2 ending really that horrible. Thats only adachi manga that i havent read yet. Is it worth to read or does it leave you hating it?

H2 ending is not that horrible, but it will left bitter taste in your mount.
I mean... it's bitter sweet.

I used to like Hiro most, but now, Kou has become my favorite male lead "More than anyone else in the world".

[joeboygo]

Originally Posted by Darknemo2000

But again why do you think I am wasting my time with this? I do not hate it. I just do not love it either - it is mean to pass the time. There are better manga's out there for me, but it doesn't mean that I had terrible time reading this either (except maybe Q and A) I just was not in awe with it.

How I envy those who have time to kill. I myself have barely enough for the things I truly enjoy.

Anyway, here we are, people who love Adachi, and now we know that you enjoy his work a lot less than we do. What else is there left to say?

[germanturkey]

Originally Posted by Bath-Teth

PS: I've seen some of you guys here have ARIA as one of your favorite manga/anime which means I like to read/watch it. I just want to know if I should read the manga first or try the anime. Thanks for any help.

in general, the manga is considered superior, but Tokyotop decided to light it on fire. but scans aren't done yet though. they're getting really really really close to the end. only like 6 chapters left or something.

but don't let that stop you from watching the anime. initially, you'll think its a bit slow because everything is disjointed, but that's the beauty of the show. everything is a standalone and repeated character development. only at the end of the first season and in Origination do we actually see plot development. but if you enjoyed the character interaction in Cross Game, you'll enjoy Aria too.

so what Adachi manga should i read now?

[poko-kun]

Originally Posted by germanturkey

so what Adachi manga should i read now?

How about Rough? Small (compared to CG) but sweet one.

And if you want to know more about Adachi, I'd like to recommend Short program.
It's not so light-heart... he could make his work.... heavy... and dark sometime. (to tell you the truth... I cried when I read it)
Just like when you're reading "Path of Fujiko F Fujio" ^^ Classic.

[2H-Dragon]

Originally Posted by poko-kun

H2 ending is not that horrible, but it will left bitter taste in your mount.
I mean... it's bitter sweet.

I used to like Hiro most, but now, Kou has become my favorite male lead "More than anyone else in the world".

I 'll give him that the ending was horrible. Since I still refuse the reread H2 purely, because of the ending. I quite like Adachi's manga(mostly because slice-of-life is my favourite genre), so Adachi fits my taste.

Originally Posted by Bath-Teth

PS: I've seen some of you guys here have ARIA as one of your favorite manga/anime which means I like to read/watch it. I just want to know if I should read the manga first or try the anime. Thanks for any help.

I highly recommend Amanchu by the same author of Aria. I didn't quite like Aria since it doesn't take place in our world. There aren't a lot of chapters out well worth looking into.

[cyshdor]

It's probably already been posted somewhere here and I can't remember where I found it, but I liked this image:



And although I wanted a slightly simpler version to use as wallpaper, I couldn't actually find one. So just in case someone else wanted it, here is a clean version:



Click for big.

[Darknemo2000]

Originally Posted by joeboygo

How I envy those who have time to kill. I myself have barely enough for the things I truly enjoy.

Anyway, here we are, people who love Adachi, and now we know that you enjoy his work a lot less than we do. What else is there left to say?

Pretty much just like for you there is nothing else to say because you just say that you enjoy it, now don't you?

The first post was just expressing the opinion - all other the response to the posts other made.

I do not say anything new by saying I am not enjoying but you know what - neither do you (by saying you like it) so whats your point of posting then?

[poko-kun]

Originally Posted by 2H-Dragon

I 'll give him that the ending was horrible. Since I still refuse the reread H2 purely, because of the ending.

Well... it's not that scary, if you root for the right pairing. (which I was wrong )

[joeboygo]

I feel that Cross Game has the best conclusion of any Adachi series to date, and I'd love to discuss comparisons with the endings of all his previous works but...I can't see how we can make that work here.