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View Poll Results: Aquarion EVOL - Episode 26 [End] Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 25 | 27.47% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 16 | 17.58% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 7 | 7.69% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 12 | 13.19% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 10 | 10.99% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 6 | 6.59% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 2 | 2.20% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 2.20% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 11 | 12.09% | |
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2012-06-24, 17:41 | Link #141 | |
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I think it was mentioned that her soul was whole again. Otherwise Kagura mentioned that Shrade smelled like Mikono. That could hint that he is the reincarnation of Sirius or maybe a descendant of Silvia.
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2012-06-24, 17:47 | Link #142 |
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Thinking it over, I don't have much good to say about this show. Specifically the direction and/or series composition role, not sure how to apportion the blame here, ...but, at the end, it's a show that had a lot of things going on at the same time, but little sign of some kind of guiding hand shaping it all into a coherent work.
That it wasn't apparent how badly-organized it all was until the final moments is a testimony to how much it had going on at any point in time, but at the end of the day it's a bunch of people doing their stuff and not actually as much of a "series" as it seemed going into it. The one is going to bug me for awhile even if I'm sick of talking about it. It was like a superposition of different stories all happening at once but then, to mix/abuse my science metaphors, when the waveform collapsed and it came out of supersaturation ( there's the mix/abuse) it all crystalized around the least-developed of those stories. Really a shame. |
2012-06-24, 18:02 | Link #145 |
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Exactly, they didn't have to put that shit inside, yet they did.
EVOL was love spelled backward so no wonder that would stand for crap drama. Anonymous "Actually, if you got rid of Amata and Mikono's bullshit this episode would have been pretty good. Actually, if you got rid of Amata and Mikono, this show would have been pretty good." Mykage was half of the show by himself. Last edited by Korps!; 2012-06-24 at 18:18. |
2012-06-24, 18:22 | Link #146 |
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In the end, there just wasn't a point or conclusion to Zessica's character. Its... odd? Vexing even. They zoom in on her unsatisfied/saddened expression, they show her blush (what the hell was this?) and smile when Amata shows up again. They sort of tried to shoehorn in something with Kagura, and his basically making some sort of "this is a good person, what the hell are you doing Amata?" conclusion during their meeting and gattai, but that doesn't do more than just lampshade the whole thing.
I ask, again, why have her in this story at all? That lampshading during the gattai, her just doing everything for Amata, what the hell? Themes would have worked out better without her, story would have worked out better without her. Aquarion EVOL: Love conquers all!* *As long as your fated. EDIT: Whatever happened to Mikono making a choice? We just went from Amata and Kagura fighting over a prize. To Kagura conceding for some... reason, and Amata claiming his prize. There was no real choosing going on by Mikono.
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2012-06-24, 18:27 | Link #149 |
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Vena: themes? You still think this show has coherent themes? You're a generous fellow.
I'd say it has characters, and settings, and some plot events, but themes...themes at this point are the one thing I'm not seeing. Nothing coherent, at least. |
2012-06-24, 18:32 | Link #150 |
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Even Twilight did better than Evol.
As for Mikono. You expected her to choose? She's been useless since her appearance. Doing things on her own is too hard, better to let men make decisions her around it seems. Apparently that's the kind of women EVOL wanted to convey was the ideal one while making it a mission to beat up the strong independent girl because she isn't damsel in distress enough to win in love. That and Green Hair. It seems Green Hair is the Devil to Kawamori. |
2012-06-24, 18:35 | Link #151 |
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Finished watching RAW version, and FINALLY an AmataxMikono Epic Kiss and Epic Ending.. Who said Kawamori always go for the main character break-up ending ?
Still waiting for the subs, cant understand the last part where Fudo and Mikage talk.. |
2012-06-24, 18:40 | Link #152 |
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lol I mean that in the end there is no sense of actual progress.
I mean how have the main characters changed and developed? How has Amata developed and evolved significantly? He still seems dependent on Mikono. Yes, Mikono gained her connect ability but was it useful in the final battle? Not really? She was still the damsel in distress. Kagura was actually developed pretty well compared to Amata, Mikono and Zessica. As for Zessica they tried to developed but it went off the rails and screwed her character up, then she was essentially turned into the punching bag of the writers. And as for the relationships: You essentially got Edward, Bella and Jacob in anime form. Amata and Mikono can flip-flop between Ed and Bella, while Zessica and Kagura are Jacob. |
2012-06-24, 18:42 | Link #153 | |
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Why is/was she in this story? She doesn't seem to serve any purpose other than to suffer because she was a loving person, directly opposite the main female? (I should have known something was wrong when Kawamori had to come out and correct misconceptions on Mikono, something was very wrong in the character scripting.)
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2012-06-24, 18:46 | Link #154 | |
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I seriously wonder if characters like Mikono are supposed to be liked. She is a deadbeat and her lover has to carry all the load on his shoulder so that she can have a nice love story. WTF? If Mikono were a guy and Amata was a girl, people would hate MIkono for a dead beat who relied on his wife to do everything. Or is it some sort of crappy idea that pretty girls need to be protected cause boo hoo they can't fend for themselves? It just pisses me off. |
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2012-06-24, 18:54 | Link #155 | ||
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Since even after all this time Amata x Mikono is still unpopular up to the Finale. Thus only a sudden and unexplained character shift was the only way to burn the more popular ships so that the worst ship could make it to the finish line unopposed. Which I'm sure Kawamori never expected and is resentful that the destined pairing was so hated compared to every other pairing in Evol. |
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2012-06-24, 18:56 | Link #156 |
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Vena: I see it and I don't. I share your feeling for why (1) Zessica even exists and (2) why go to such lengths to show she's unhappy even in the finale...but even if you cut her out it just makes the lack of thematic coherency less obvious, and not really any less present.
It's getting back to the same issues you've raised a bunch of times: Amata and Kagura being the same person really weakens any fate-related distinction between the two of them, regardless of what the characters themselves have to say about their own reasons for doing things. Sure, having Zessica out there working hard the way she did really pulls it into focus, but it's not like excising her from the plot would do anything much to fix the underlying lack-of-fate-related-distinction between Amata and Kagura vis-a-vis Mikono. (It would be possible to patch that up with better writing and so on, but I'm sticking to ceteris-paribus, no-more-Zessica...). Some speculation in light of the ending: Spoiler for Zessica a bad girl?:
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2012-06-24, 18:58 | Link #157 | |
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2012-06-24, 19:14 | Link #158 |
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The episode felt like it was trying to ignore all the bad writing that happened before and just focus on awesome mech fights and hot blood
Everyone had turned likable in this episode but of course the only way to fix terrible characters is to change their characters all of a sudden Everything about how Kagura was thought to have killed their parents is ignored and how Mykage was actually responsible was never known Kagura suddenly changed to a likable character despite being an all out jerk before and within the span of a few minutes begins to agree with Amata's loving Mikono now thing. At very least they didn't go with the whole making Amata and Kagura one again so Mikono doesn't have to choose thing and I appreciate that, and Mikono herself wasn't as annoying as she was in other episodes and clearly chooses Amata that redeems her to a certain extent for me. All in all, everything seems like a cop-out it's like all of a sudden someone who is actually competent came in at episode 26 looked at it and said "What the hell have you done with this mess!?" and hastily tries to fix it ASAP but couldn't do it completely so he had to change character personalities to make them likable and ignore or quickly resolve plotlines that can't be done properly Basically I find this episode very good but due to the horrible previous episodes it is far from perfect and seems like a hasty patchwork episode but if you give yourself selective memory it becomes a perfect episode with a perfect ending and that's what I'm going to do...I don't wanna remember previous horrible writing anyway. |
2012-06-24, 19:37 | Link #160 | |
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