Villainous Loli Characters In Anime (Has it ever happened?)

[KholdStare]

Whow there Evil Rick, please put that in a spoiler tag please

[Kamui4356]

Originally Posted by KholdStare

Spoiler for Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha:

She didn't switch sides. She fought with Nanoha, but she was still her mother's child until the very end. The inverse of a statement is not necessarily true. If she didn't attack her mother then I don't consider that switching sides. Fate talked to her mother because still believes her mother would still accept her until the very end.

Spoiler:

Though helping stop Precia's plans seems like switching sides to me, whether Fate did or not is irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Kaioshin_Sama

if there's a loli character involved they've either been on the hero's side, or have switched sides to be on the hero's side, or have just plain never really been evil regardless and were fulfilling some naive ideal or just playing or whatever.

Fate surely fits that bolded part. Everything she did was to be accepted by her mother.

[Evil Rick]

Originally Posted by KholdStare

Whow there Evil Rick, please put that in a spoiler tag please

But I do that

[KholdStare]

Um, I mean the part about Precia, since that's technically a plot spoiler.

[Evil Rick]

Originally Posted by KholdStare

Um, I mean the part about Precia, since that's technically a plot spoiler.

O.k fixed

[Kamui4356]

Originally Posted by KholdStare

Um, I mean the part about Precia, since that's technically a plot spoiler.

Yeah I should have added spoiler tags too. *edits*

[Rion Steiner]

Seeing a loli die as a villain would be injustice to most people. Little children symbolizes innocence and seeing a little child die as a villain will most likely tell the viewers that he/she died without learning anything about good or evil as well as accomplishing something on growing up.

If you only watched the first season of Shakugan no Shana you could see one there. And I heard there was also a villain loli in Tales of Abyss which

Spoiler for Game Spoiler:

she died as the game's villain

but its a game though.

How about something like an "Alice in Bloody-Loli/Shouta-Wonderland"

Spoiler for From the Manga Oni Gokko:

Spoiler for Sylvie:

Spoiler for Yoszume:

[Thany]

Just pointing out stuffs that are plain false:

Machi

She's not evil iirc also she's not a loli either, I have yet to figure out how someone could even think about mentioning her.
As for pure evil loli characters, it's hard as even pure evil characters aren't that usual either

[KholdStare]

Machi isn't evil? What are you talking about? She takes pleasure in torturing her sister, remember? And everyone in that show is drawn loli enough.

[Kamui4356]

Originally Posted by Rion Steiner

And I heard there was also a villain loli in Tales of Abyss which

Spoiler for Game Spoiler:

she died as the game's villain

but its a game though.

Yup Arietta. Though she was another one of those not evil but doing bad things for a reason types.

[Thany]

Originally Posted by KholdStare

And everyone in that show is drawn loli enough.

You obviously don't know what's a loli character...
Also Machi is only mean toward her sister, it's like those kind of relation between siblings who just never seem to be kind to each other.

[KholdStare]

Well then, it's subjective to each individual person. Did I piss you off because you're a hardcore Machi fan? If so, I'm sorry.

[qtipbrit]

Originally Posted by Thany

You obviously don't know what's a loli character...

Short? Check.
Small/no boobs? Check.

That's loli enough for me.
Actually, they even play on the fact that she's small in the anime several times, so it's obviously that she's a loli.

Originally Posted by Thany

Also Machi is only mean toward her sister, it's like those kind of relation between siblings who just never seem to be kind to each other.

But yeah, Machi's not evil, she's just an older sister.

Originally Posted by KholdStare

Well then, it's subjective to each individual person. Did I piss you off because you're a hardcore Machi fan? If so, I'm sorry.

True, I once met an otaku who claimed Shana wasn't a loli.
But she still won SaiLoli, so I have no idea how this works.

[Thany]

Originally Posted by KholdStare

Well then, it's subjective to each individual person. Did I piss you off because you're a hardcore Machi fan? If so, I'm sorry.

Not really, I just happened to see this thread and thought it made no sense to say she was loli.

Originally Posted by qtipbrit92

Short? Check.
Small/no boobs? Check.

Small boobs!=loli. Also Machi has medium sized boobs, you should read the manga if you're not sure about it, but I also think it's obvious already in the anime^^
The only characters in this anime/manga series considerable loli would be Yukino and Ayane (?).

[MakubeX2]

If anyone had played Phoenix Wright series of game, recall Dahlia Hawthorne and how old she was when she started out her plan of revenge.

[WanderingKnight]

Has no one mentioned the twins from Black Lagoon? It's true that by the end there's some sort of attempt at redemption from one of them (I think it was the boy, I can't remember what happened to the girl) but they were seriously fucked up. Like, seriously.

And it's not only loli, gothloli to boot.

PS: By the way, it's almost impossible to find pure evil in an important character in (most good) anime, since there always is some kind of reasoning behind it, some kind of cause, and that leads to some sort of redemption or at least of understanding.

[Deathkillz]

^

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

It's been mentioned Gretel of Akazukin, and the incest twins in Shana. That just reminded me of Hansel and Gretel of Black Lagoon, of which I last heard Gretel (or was it Hansel? those two were effing confusing) was still evil until her demise.

Mentioned

And I also agree that Machi is evil (not in a "take over the world" sense though ).

Surprisingly...I don't seem to remember vividly many "evil" lolis from the series I've seen so far. *Shurgs* must be a niche market.

[KholdStare]

Well I think that Machi is evil. I cringe every time I see her hurt her sister. I don't find it funny, but disturbing, and I hate how she does it throughout the series. She also has an evil look and an evil laugh, so I don't see how she's not.

[Kaioshin Sama]

Originally Posted by Rion Steiner

Seeing a loli die as a villain would be injustice to most people. Little children symbolizes innocence and seeing a little child die as a villain will most likely tell the viewers that he/she died without learning anything about good or evil as well as accomplishing something on growing up.

If you only watched the first season of Shakugan no Shana you could see one there. And I heard there was also a villain loli in Tales of Abyss which

Spoiler for Game Spoiler:

she died as the game's villain

but its a game though.

She was a very shades of grey character that in another lifetime barring a couple events happening would have probably been a party member.

Originally Posted by KholdStare

Isn't Sumi just another rival magical girl, kinda like Syaoran in CCS?

Her and Ink used to be friends, but kind of grew apart. Mostly it's a joke on the cliche of the love triangle commonly found in Magical Girl series that the main character and a friend have with the dude. Think like Usagi and Rei with Mamoru or yes, Sakura and Mei Lin with Syaoran.

Originally Posted by Terrestrial Dream

Kaio I wouldn't think that you would forget about Abel from GaoGiaGar Final? Though I wonder if one could consider her as loli because she's not human.
Of course like few people here mentioned the twins from Black Lagoon are villain.

Yeah I think that does count, and apparently these twins do, although I've never seen Black Lagoon to know. I haven't seen Gaogaigar Final in a long time and the Gai vs. Palparepa fights were so awesome they kind of overwhelmed the rest of the series for me. I think it's time I watched Final again though.

[Kirin-San]

Wouldn't Evangeline A.K. McDowell from Negima series be a great example for villainous loli?