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Old 2010-07-20, 15:54   Link #1
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best Malware/spyware software.

any suggestion, currently using norton 360 for virus. Thought it was suppose to take care the whole but someone just told me i need need a spyware/malware scanner as norton doesn't detect spyware.
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Old 2010-07-20, 16:02   Link #2
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any suggestion, currently using norton 360 for virus. Thought it was suppose to take care the whole but someone just told me i need need a spyware/malware scanner as norton doesn't detect spyware.
You know, it would be better if you put an anti-xx at the front. I was about to recommend Downadup/Conficker or Agent series of trojans. Those are annoying shit to remove.

My suggestion would be still your own discretion. That is what I used along with Malwarebytes, Spybot and MSRT. If you are running on a 32-bit system, use GMER.
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Old 2010-07-20, 17:11   Link #3
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I just use Windows Defender.
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Old 2010-07-21, 06:09   Link #4
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Malwarebytes anti-malware and superantispyware are the best to have
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Old 2010-07-24, 01:10   Link #5
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I'm running Windows 7 64-bit version. Any recommendations for me?
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Old 2010-07-24, 06:21   Link #6
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malwarebytes is good for removing stuff

btw0, I'm pretty sure Norton defends against all malware. including spyware.

btw1, you forgot the "anti-" part
if you want a good piece of spyware, writing your own reduces risk of detection
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Old 2010-07-24, 07:39   Link #7
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Actually no anti-virus program is not capable of removing all kinds of malware and that includes the wave of fake anti-virus programs that are out there (since they are altered on a daily basis and no anti-virus can keep up with the changes) plus no anti-virus or anti-malware/spyware program can detect and remove the black internet virus since it embeds itself into the master boot record and the only way you can get rid of it is to fix the MBR through the recovery console if you have the original OS disc and if you don't there is a tool that can detect the malicious package in the MBR and restore it to it's original state (unfortunately I don't have a link to that tool at the moment).
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Old 2010-07-24, 08:31   Link #8
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I wasn't specific enough
I should of said it tries to stop all malware. as in symantec doesn't ignore spyware, trojans, worms, etc and just focus on virus.
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Old 2010-07-24, 08:43   Link #9
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What about avast?
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Old 2010-07-24, 09:06   Link #10
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What about avast?
Avast controls are something like Netnanny's but the definition files are much better than AVG's.

So yeah, it is a tradeoff - either something less annoying or something better.
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Old 2010-07-25, 01:38   Link #11
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I use Kaspersky internet security 2011 and windows defender as my firewall. Never had problems with them!
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Old 2010-07-25, 08:32   Link #12
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I wasn't specific enough
I should of said it tries to stop all malware. as in symantec doesn't ignore spyware, trojans, worms, etc and just focus on virus.
And as I said no program will detect absolutely everything that is out there so it's just a case of common sense, a good kit of virus and malware detection software and script blocking tools for the browser you use (if it has one) to cover anything on hacked sites.
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Old 2010-07-27, 16:43   Link #13
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i put microsoft security essentials on my client builds/repairs. MSRT automatically every month as well.

mainly i rely on MSE, but commonsense 2010 pro is always a great backup to that.

avast, malwarebytes, hijackthis are also decent programs if you dont want to leave everything in microsoft's hands.
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Old 2010-07-27, 17:47   Link #14
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mainly i rely on MSE, but commonsense 2010 pro is always a great backup to that.
Pretty much this.
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Old 2010-07-27, 20:03   Link #15
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What is good for anti-spyware. I used to use spybot search and destroy, but I dunno what is better than it.

I just dl'ed malwarebytes, and I use Avast for anti-virus. Avast has been great for me.

Anyone else recommend Avast? I know it has a good reputation. Is it still good? I know these things change over time.

Edit: Oh, malwarebytes is anti-spyware? That is what it seems like after checking things out. Can someone confirm this?
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Old 2010-07-28, 01:47   Link #16
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Actually no anti-virus program is not capable of removing all kinds of malware and that includes the wave of fake anti-virus programs that are out there (since they are altered on a daily basis and no anti-virus can keep up with the changes) plus no anti-virus or anti-malware/spyware program can detect and remove the black internet virus since it embeds itself into the master boot record and the only way you can get rid of it is to fix the MBR through the recovery console if you have the original OS disc and if you don't there is a tool that can detect the malicious package in the MBR and restore it to it's original state (unfortunately I don't have a link to that tool at the moment).
I am almost positive that you're wrong on that statement as Avast[and some other scanners] have a function to specifically deal prevent virus from loading even in the boot record since it's on-boot/restart scan function scans before windows is loaded even, so it can catch most of those ones, I've used it to do so before on my brothers computer.

And Avast has still been doing me well lately, though haven't had a virus in a while, it has given me warning/blocking on attempts to DL something a few months ago .
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Old 2010-07-28, 05:49   Link #17
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I am almost positive that you're wrong on that statement as Avast[and some other scanners] have a function to specifically deal prevent virus from loading even in the boot record since it's on-boot/restart scan function scans before windows is loaded even, so it can catch most of those ones, I've used it to do so before on my brothers computer.

And Avast has still been doing me well lately, though haven't had a virus in a while, it has given me warning/blocking on attempts to DL something a few months ago .
Your the one who's mistaken since avast's boot time scan doesn't scan the master boot record it just runs a scan before the OS is fully started.

This is the only tool that can detect the bad code in the MBR that is related to the black internet virus (and can restore the MBR back to its original state)
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Old 2010-07-28, 20:43   Link #18
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So I dl'ed that program and ran it. It said it found the MBR code in green text. I assume that means no problems. It didn't say much else, so, heh. I'm left to assume.
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Old 2010-07-29, 05:34   Link #19
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So I dl'ed that program and ran it. It said it found the MBR code in green text. I assume that means no problems. It didn't say much else, so, heh. I'm left to assume.
Well if it says that it's found a known bad MBR code (that being whilstler/black internet) then you should worry
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Old 2010-07-29, 18:39   Link #20
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It didn't give me an option to repair anything and it was in green text, so I assume no problems. I figure that it'd be in red text if there was a problem, and then give an option to repair, correct?

What is so bad about the black internet virus? I never heard about it before this thread.
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