sola (old generic discussion thread)

[Owaranai Destiny]

Yeesh...All that talk about Kaede's getting me a little nervous. I believe it would make sense that since Yorito's obsession on the sky might actually occupy the greater part of his mind that he couldn't care less what he ate, Mana would step in.

The only problem is what relation she has with Yorito other than being a friend at school. Childhood playmates? Neighbours? Hopefully we can get to know more about this somehow.

[kct]

Initially it seems like it does, but it doesn't make sense since...

Spoiler:

Yorito seem to care more about Aono, at least in front of Mana. As some of the rest have said, instead of performing her duties for the sake of Yorito, Mana is actually doing it more for the sake of Aono, at least at this point of time. Both of them must be too concerned about Aono to take care of these trivial matters at this moment.

[Vexx]

I think we're seeing some *Really* early over-labeling and over-tagging by some posters .... just because a longtime family friend has you staying over and cooking for you doesn't translate into moe-psycho-thriller.

People just need to talk less and watch more, let the show unfold a bit since we're actually getting to see something without prior contamination from other source material

Discuss what *is* happening instead of comparing it to elements of other shows (that comes later ).

[Kaoru Chujo]

Shuffle was from Navel. This is from a writer for Key. No Kaedes in Kanon. Just a Nayuki. If you want to make comparisons, so far, Matsuri is a new variation on the Ayu/Makoto situation, with some Hazuki and Petoko thrown in.

And I want to put in a word for Aono. I think she's so far a really good version of the type, with something added. I like her quiet combination of dere, tsun, and kawaisou. And I like the fact she's the elder sister. The way she and Yorito interact kind of moves me:

Spoiler for Aono-Yorito eps1-2:

...she says leave the curtains closed and he opens them, but not in a nasty way; Mana tells him she can't sleep, and he rushes right over; he arrives expecting her to be angry, and she quietly asks for a glass of water.

[orion]

Well, I think that Aono and Mana needs to cut Yorito some slack...

Spoiler:

Expecting a teenager to do daily visitations is asking a lot imo. They need to realize that he has a life too and sometimes he won't be able to come. Just like when he was having an important talk with Matsuri there. Not being able to sleep does not mean that a relative drops everything and runs to the hospital imo.

Maybe Yorito has inherited a task to complete from that ancestor in the flashback ala Yukito. He even looks like the guy in the flashback. That could explain the sky obsession and how Matsuri took an instant liking and trusting of him.

I think that Matsuri has more Arcueid and less Hazuki in her in that she is more mature, independent, head strong and has some defensive and probably offensive capabilities. She also seems to desire companionship and yet knows that it will lead to heartbreak in the end. Matsuri and Yorito are starting to remind me of Arcueid and Shiki more in ep. 2.

[monir]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

Spoiler for Aono-Yorito eps1-2:

...she says leave the curtains closed and he opens them, but not in a nasty way; Mana tells him she can't sleep, and he rushes right over; he arrives expecting her to be angry, and she quietly asks for a glass of water.

The above reference, is it from episode 1 or 2? I remember from episode 2:

Spoiler for episode 2:

Aono threatens to come home because Yorito didn't show up that day. Once Yorito rushes over, Aono tells him that she is hungry.

The touching thing about this scene is signified by earlier moments when the nurse came over and failed to convince Aono to get her to eat something. Yorito shows up, and she brings up the subject of food on her own accord. I'm touched by the deep bond shared by these two siblings.

[Skyfall]

Originally Posted by Guido

And I am giving my thanks to Omni for blogging this title. The beginning to sola did not dissapoint me. As I suspected from a first glance at the characters' designs, the anime most likely was adapted from the game of the same title.

No, it is not being adapted from anything - it is a "fresh" work. There is a game being made, but that has nothing to do with the anime. And it is definitely going to be one of it's strengths - no need to do the "path" merging or anything - they can give each and every character whatever amount of screentime they want, and can move them to support character roles instead of main ones, without "shafting" them.

And i definitely agree with Skane - the amount of psycho-moe vibes from Mana are non existent. She doesn't seem to be in love with the guy in the first place. If anything, Yorito getting a girlfriend (aka Matsuri) would affect his relationship with Aono more than Mana.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by monir

The above reference, is it from episode 1 or 2?

I was talking about half-understood and half-remembered bits from both episodes. Your further detail makes me feel even more how nice the relationship is between the siblings.

And orion is right that there is a lot of Arcueid there, in the hints of maturity.

[wontaek]

Although it will likely be source of problem in the future problem, I can symphathize with Aono desiring Yoriko's attention. She seems to have been more or less trapped in that small room in hospital for long time, and her sensitivity to sunlight would probably mean she can't move about within the hospital during daytime. She probably won't be having much interaction with other people and her loneliness may lead to her seeking people's attention. There might be some frustrations bottled up within her.

I am wondering what is the big deal between Mana insisting Koyori call her 'elder sister' and Koyori keep forgetting this. This usually is a hint that one of their parent married a parent of the other, and there may be some serious issues within them and between them as well.

Finally good point about Mana being more involved with Aono compared to Yorito.

[kct]

And there is this thing about Yorito being 'the only remaining family that Aono have', something Mana was pressing into his mind all the time.

[Saber Cherry]

Originally Posted by kct

And there is this thing about Yorito being 'the only remaining family that Aono have', something Mana was pressing into his mind all the time.

What are the odds that a vampire killed their parents?

[orion]

Yorito is a teen after all and we don't know how long Aono's been in the hospital. I don't expect him to be hanging around her that much now that Matsuri is in the house.

Plus, how sick is she really? No IVs. Not in isolation. Taking medicine and food by mouth. Technically, no reason to be in the hospital has been shown yet.

[Skane]

Originally Posted by Saber Cherry

What are the odds that a vampire killed their parents?

I vote car accident.

Seriously, it's one of the basic tenets of Anime Law. If you ever sire a progeny who even remotely looks like he/she might star in an anime leading role, start writing up your final will. YOU WILL DIE. The only way to prevent this is to take an overseas business trip INDEFINITELY or undergo plastic surgery to be a MILF.

Cheers.

[monir]

Originally Posted by Skane

Seriously, it's one of the basic tenets of Anime Law. If you ever sire a progeny who even remotely looks like he/she might star in an anime leading role, start writing up your final will. YOU WILL DIE. The only way to prevent this is to take an overseas business trip INDEFINITELY or undergo plastic surgery to be a MILF.

The best hypothesis to date this thread has seen in my humble opinion. Bravo!

Originally Posted by wontaek

She seems to have been more or less trapped in that small room in hospital for long time, and her sensitivity to sunlight would probably mean she can't move about within the hospital during daytime. She probably won't be having much interaction with other people and her loneliness may lead to her seeking people's attention. There might be some frustrations bottled up within her.

I agree with the assessment. We don't know yet why exactly she is in the hospital, but for Aono not wanting the blinds up probably indicates of some incident from the past that has left some kind of psychological scar. That also raises the question why exactly Yorito is so obsessed with taking picture of the sky?? Then again, Aono can always be a vampire. I'm most definitely not taking any jabs below the belt by the way.

[kct]

Originally Posted by Skane

to be a MILF.

Akiko almost got into a car accident ^^.

Originally Posted by monir

We don't know yet why exactly she is in the hospital, but for Aono not wanting the blinds up probably indicates of some incident from the past that has left some kind of psychological scar.

Probably along the lines of something she saw in broad daylight? It would take more than just a small incident to leave a big impact on her.

[Saber Cherry]

Red eyes indicate albinism, which also causes vulnerability to UV. But does not require hospitalization. No, I think the secret is something we DON'T see - her lower body. Maybe it's missing?

[Ascaloth]

Originally Posted by orion

Yorito is a teen after all and we don't know how long Aono's been in the hospital. I don't expect him to be hanging around her that much now that Matsuri is in the house.

Plus, how sick is she really? No IVs. Not in isolation. Taking medicine and food by mouth. Technically, no reason to be in the hospital has been shown yet.

Spoiler for Kana: Imouto, Hantsuki, Kanon, and Narcissu:

Spoiler for Todou Kana of Kana: Imouto:

No IVs. Not in isolation. Taking medicine and food by mouth. Technically, no reason to be in the hospital, if we weren't told she suffers from kidney failure.

Spoiler for Akiba Rika of Hantsuki:

No IVs. Not in isolation. Taking medicine and food by mouth. Even goes out gallivanting with Ezaki Yuuichi every once in a while. Technically, no reason to be in the hospital, if we were not told beforehand that she stays in the wing of the hospital reserved for terminal cases.

Spoiler for Misaka Shiori of Kanon:

No IVs. Not in isolation. Taking medicine and food by mouth.We don't ever see her in a hospital ward, and she's ALWAYS gallivanting in the school courtyard. Yet Kaori says she's going to die.

Spoiler for Setsumi of Narcissu:

No IVs. Not in isolation. Taking medicine and food by mouth. Technically, no reason to be in the hospital, were it not that we were told she resides in 7F.

Ascaloth's observation: In anime, just because a bishoujo doesn't have IVs stuck in her, is not isolated, and/or takes her medicine and food by mouth, doesn't mean she is not sickly and/or going to die. Just being associated with the hospital is enough to doom her.

P.S. When are the Lunar subs coming out?

[Skane]

Originally Posted by kct

Akiko almost got into a car accident ^^. ~

And she survived with nary a scar. See? Her MILF-powers saved her.

Natch.

[Boukenxha]

Watched ep 2...

Spoiler:

The manga scenario I was talking about was there, though the timing was shifted to the end of the episode (I think it works even better here). If you are wondering, it's the scene of Matsuri and the ceiling sky in Yorito's room. It was really moving when Matsuri held out her hands towards the sky. Now you guys know why I call Yorito a romantic?

So now we know something about Matsuri, I hope they will tell us more about Aono in the next episode.

Originally Posted by Ascaloth

EDIT: On another note, I think I read somewhere that there is a manga being released concurrently? Is that true?

If so, is a Chinese scanlation out for it already?

If so, then I'll like to take a crack at it.

Yeah the manga has been scanslated in chinese, though only 3 chapters are available. It's at the usual place where you find chinese-subbed anime/manga torrents but like always there's no more seeds within a few days... as it's been now a couple of weeks already.

Btw, I did a google search and found Matsuri's umbrella... nice!

[WanderingKnight]

Wow, this pushed all my buttons in its second episode.

I've really never been a fan of Noto Mamiko, but lately her voice's been growing on me--and now it has sprouted like a goddamn flower. Nice, nice, NICE voice acting, Mamiko, I now understand why you have so many fans.

I'm really not in the mood to browse through the 7 pages of this I haven't read yet (and given the high level of speculation there seems to be on this, something that starts to tire me after a while), but has anyone mentioned the excellent music yet? The last played piano track of episode 2 was like an orgasm of harmony and beauty to my ears.