2012-09-05, 00:36 | Link #3944 |
Gamilas Falls
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Republic of California
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Thing is, that doesn't make sense.
If the family is trying to successfullly crafted their future master for the next war (after Iris), that shouldn't Illya have a longer lifespan? The Fifth War wasn't suppose to happen for 60 years. Or did they originally intend for her to be the master in the Fourth War?
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2012-09-07, 18:17 | Link #3947 |
Licensed Hunter-a-holic
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 35
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We don't really know what is going to happen to Illya after Fate ... I mean, the implication is that she should die (she wasn't made to function after the War) but the Tiger Dojo special sort of hints that there is more to it (''Everyone dies at the end'' she says, but whether or not she will die in a year is left up in the air, so ...?)
Anyway, I've been replaying some of the game recently, and I have some questions about HF: Spoiler for Q!:
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2012-09-07, 23:56 | Link #3948 |
Juanita/Kiteless
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: New England
Age: 40
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I've know about this series for years but know hardly a thing about it. I know it has many fans. Are these shows anime classics that I, as an anime fan, owe to myself to check out? How many TV series are there? Just Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero? Any OVAs and movies to check out? Are they all available legally? I'm sure the TV episodes are but I want to check on the OVAs and movies, if there are any movies.
Are there any sites that stream this series in HD? Could some of you tell me a bit about the Fate series, something to try and get me interested in checking it out? What are the TV shows about (without revealing spoilers)?
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2012-09-08, 01:11 | Link #3949 | |||
Licensed Hunter-a-holic
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Yes. There has been a film adaptation of the second route of the Réalta Nua game, titled Unlimited Blades Works. There has also been a Special Reproduction OVA for the first TV anime, but it is mostly a recap for the TV series and isn't really worth watching aside from the Remix of the OP which I personally adore and this is the best OP of the entire franchise. Yes. The first anime had been for some time now licensed and dubbed (It was originally broadcast in 2006) and the film had been recently released in English as well. Fate/Zero had not been officially released for purchase in English, however the Japanese release does include English subtitles (though I would not recommend you getting it now due to the price being so high). You can also go to Crunchyroll to view all 25 episodes of the Fate/Zero anime. Crunchyroll for Fate/Zero (subtitles only) Funimation for Fate/Stay Night (Dubbed and subtitled). I do not know of the quality of the Funimation stream, but I know that the Crunchyroll stream is pretty high. Quote:
Think of it as Battle Royal meets Highlander with everyone being played with someone you've probably heard your history teacher once talk about in high school (or Uni) and you'd have a good idea of what the series premise is about. There is more to it than that though. There is a conflict of many who desire the grail for their own personal desires, some who want it to better the life of humanity as a whole, and few who want to use it to for more sinister means ... There is also romance involved in this, more so in Fate/Stay Night than in Fate/Zero, and a lot of tragedy in store for the cast as the war goes on and more and more Servants are defeated (more Fate/Zero than Stay Night for the most part, though there are bits in F/SN that will tug your heart strings as well) Hope that helps.
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2012-09-08, 01:25 | Link #3950 |
Juanita/Kiteless
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: New England
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So there are humans that summon the legendary heroes, right? The summoned heroes die when defeated, right? What about the human that summons them? Do they die when a hero is defeated? I'm assuming no, but I assume that a lot of the tragedy in the series comes from humans losing the heroes they've become attached to.
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2012-09-08, 01:29 | Link #3951 | |
Tenshi's Defense Squadron
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2012-09-08, 01:38 | Link #3952 | |
King of Heroes
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2012-09-08, 01:41 | Link #3953 | |
Licensed Hunter-a-holic
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 35
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Well, that's the rule ...
Yes, once a hero is slain, they are dead for good. Mind you, these are ancient warriors from times past, so they had already experienced death before. Doesn't make it any more pleasant going through it again ... Quote:
Oh yes. Some treat it as a mere contract to be fulfilled, but some become attached and drawn to these Heroic Spirits (which is to be expected, after all they are powerful humans who had managed to do great deeds that nowadays we can only dream of, and have attracted the awe of the masses for hundreds if not thousands of years) and of course they will be at loss when they lose their partners. Of course, it's not there isn't any human causalities, or bonds built between different humans that will suffer as well ...
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2012-09-08, 06:55 | Link #3954 | |
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After having read the VN you should watch or read Fate/Zero. F/Z was originally a light novel, but this time the anime adaption is very good. F/Z is a prequel to Fate/Stay Night. If you watch/read F/Z before F/SN you will be spoiled on a few major thing of F/SN. Edit: You can find the Fate/Stay Night VN and its translation patch easily on the net with one google search. Last edited by chaos_alfa; 2012-09-08 at 08:59. |
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2012-09-08, 14:50 | Link #3959 |
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Actually in the BD version of episode 11 (The Banquet of the Kings/Grail Dialogue), Gilgamesh and Rider did have an exchange about the former's way of kingship - as a king, Gil's word is the law and he is a king because he sees his own law through. As far as real life monarchism goes, this is probably the closest to his way of kingship. The king is a divine figure, free from the influence of earthly matters, whose judgement and words are never to be questioned. He is an absolute controller, beyond restraints like morality even (as seen in how Gil is perfectly able to partake in and appreciate misdeeds that would normally constitute as punishable evils).
Gilgamesh's kingship is also interesting because it includes characteristics of both Saber and Rider's ways. Like Rider, he is a larger-than-life tyrant whom the people sacrifice themselves for, but unlike Rider and like Saber, he follows the lonely path of kingship, standing as solitary existence without equal. He did have someone whom he considered to be on equal standing with him once (Enkidu), but ever since Enkidu's death he's remained a lone and disillusioned king. He does claim to be compassionate towards the subjects who pledge themselves to him and who are worthy enough though. Also, there was actually a scene with Gilgamesh inside the Grail mud in the novel, which episode 25 of the anime omitted, where he speaks of his way of kingship a little. We might see it in the BD version of the episode yet (I certainly hope so), but here's what he says about being a king then: Spoiler:
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2012-09-08, 17:55 | Link #3960 |
Licensed Hunter-a-holic
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: United Kingdom
Age: 35
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About watching the anime or reading the novel ... I think either one is fine to be perfectly honest. Yes, I know, the first anime isn't exactly the BEST, but you know it's not really all that bad. In fact, I thought that it was generally pretty good all things considered. I say that watching the anime might be better since it serves as a better introduction to the world and setting, before moving on to the others. (Beside, Urzu 7 specified he wanted to know about the shows)
Zero or Stay night ... I think it would be best to watch Stay Night before Zero, but for a reason different than what is mentioned here (I honestly think that reading (as in, Fate Zero novel -> Fate/Stay Night VN) it chronologically is for the best). I think it's best to save Zero for later because it is the more modern release, so watching before Stay Night is bound to cause some shock since the production is simply incomparable to an anime that was made 6-7 years ago. The transition will be much smother if you watch it according to the release date as opposed to the chronological order.
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