(L+CR) Black Bullet

[deadlight]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

We don't know if the box was a red herring. It could be that the gastrea was really drawn to it. (A possession from back when it was human?)


Did Rentaro really need all those syringes? If so, wouldn't one big syringe have been better?

For the box, I personally found what was inside to be much creepier than what I had in mind, and the contents does imply some stuff.

I think it was just the heat of the moment and he decided to just use them all.

[Dark Paladin X]

Originally Posted by Divini

I felt like I watched a whole season in 4 episodes. Maybe not a whole 12 episode season, but 7-9 at least.

Was the source material this fast paced or...?

The first volume of the LN had a LOT more content than the anime has, and no, Black Bullet LN wasn't fast-paced at all. The anime actually cut out a lot of important details from the LN.

[Azure King]

i quite enjoy the series at the moment despite everyone saying how the anime should have this and should have that from the LN/Manga.

As a non-LN reader, i don't feel that anime is missing much in detail, that you normally find in LN/Manga but with only 13 epi, the production crew can only do so much.

my overall impression from spi 1~4, is ... Brutal, when i first saw epi 1, i thought it was going to be another generic loli-harem anime... looks like i was wrong, can't wait for the future epi

[Kaoru Chujo]

Great work by Han Megumi (Gon in HunterxHunter!) as Kayo. (characters/seiyuus page with pic)

[askara]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

We don't know if the box was a red herring. It could be that the gastrea was really drawn to it. (A possession from back when it was human?)


Did Rentaro really need all those syringes? If so, wouldn't one big syringe have been better?

right probably the 12 Zodiac Gatrea(or most Gatrea) are once human, Gatrea virus is probably originally a virus to make super human soldier but ironically created something that nearly wiped out human, though i dont want it to be that cliche

for those syringe he was suppose to take only one but the anime rushed it and so it was taken all at once

[Dark Paladin X]

Originally Posted by Azure King

i quite enjoy the series at the moment despite everyone saying how the anime should have this and should have that from the LN/Manga.

As a non-LN reader, i don't feel that anime is missing much in detail, that you normally find in LN/Manga but with only 13 epi, the production crew can only do so much.

my overall impression from spi 1~4, is ... Brutal, when i first saw epi 1, i thought it was going to be another generic loli-harem anime... looks like i was wrong, can't wait for the future epi

It is not a generic loli-harem anime at all. If you are looking for something like that, then watch a different anime. Black Bullet focuses more on tragedy, tear jerkers, and the storyline. Also, a little fun fact, Black Bullet is more or less inspired by Gen Urobuchi's works. In fact, the author originally wanted Rentaro to have a Kiritsugu Emiya type personality before he ditched this idea, feeling that such personality will not fit into the setting he's writing in.

[Death Usagi]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

We don't know if the box was a red herring. It could be that the gastrea was really drawn to it. (A possession from back when it was human?)

Did Rentaro really need all those syringes? If so, wouldn't one big syringe have been better?

Spoiler for Comparison to Novel and Manga:

In the Light Novel, he didn't use all of it. He used one then afterwards he fought until he lost control of himself and kept on beating Kagetane until he used Endless Scream against Rentaro which put a huge hole in him, which then after he used ALL of it then defeated Kagetane.

For one thing, Rentaro had actually fought normally till he was left with no choice but to release his Varanium arm/leg/eye to match against Kagetane.

[R.LocK]

...Uh, I get that the episode's supposed to be grandiose and epic, but I don't feel it. This is sad.
On the other hand, Kayo's scene, while being much less pretentious, had more impact than the rest of all four episodes. Well damn.

The box's contents creeped me out. Well damn.

Actually, these two words describe all my feelings about BB The Anime. Well damn.

[Flower]

Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

...Black Bullet focuses more on tragedy, tear jerkers, and the storyline....

Yes - this is the feeling I am getting overall to be sure. And I do not mind this sort of thing, but even without knowing any of the source material per se it also feels a little rushed to me, but oh well.

Do not get me wrong; I am enjoying it still, but the obvious rushed pace kinda yanks me out of the narrative by it's choppiness. I do not mind and can certainly understand an involved story being crammed together, but I guess my personal taste is to go at things like that a little slower and with more gradual build-up and detail.

[Houreki]

I'm really enjoying this show, but I do feel that the anime is rushed.

[HandofFate]

Originally Posted by R.LocK

...Uh, I get that the episode's supposed to be grandiose and epic, but I don't feel it. This is sad.
On the other hand, Kayo's scene, while being much less pretentious, had more impact than the rest of all four episodes. Well damn.

The box's contents creeped me out. Well damn.

Actually, these two words describe all my feelings about BB The Anime. Well damn.

samn, the final fight with mask guy really needed more energy.

Rentaro just goes "RAWR" kicks him two times, and he falls into the ocean. Its just like "that's all it took?"

And the sword girl didn't even get to fight much either. Was looking forward to a final mantis vs. bunny fight, but they didn't even cross strikes.

Didn't even get a flashback behind the history of her and her papa, since their bond seemed as strong as Rentaro x Enju.

[ChampDream]

The fight was really disappointed, it feel to easy for someone like Kagetane to go out like that.
The rest of the episode was ok.

[Klashikari]

While this episode was painfully obvious for even anime only watchers that it was rushed, I found this episode absolutely silly, challenging my suspension of disbelief many times within mere 20 minutes.

Whereas I could give some slack with the pseudo plot twist regarding Rentarou's body, everything down from Kayo's death flag, Kagetane's "defeat", the railgun, etc were not only far from original, but brought way too many convenient points and the like.

The straw was how conveniently possible it was for Rentarou to use his varanium arm as a railgun round: sure, the arm would be used as varanium substance in the hollow shell container, but how could they prepare such kind of cannon without any supply on site? Nevermind the fact there wasn't any varanium rounds available, there still was an empty round? Really now?
Due to how the scene was executed, I was nearly laughing at Rentatou's helpless moment with the rail gun, while the Gastrae was... pretty much impossible to miss. Adding the fact they suddenly cannot control the cannon remotely, and all the talk about saving the world added so many cheese in that scene...

Kayo's death was just a plain give away, with all the pseudo build up, obvious death flags around. However, she was barely introduced and developped in ep3, so the scene did nothing to me, since I didn't even have the time to care about the character to begin with.

I haven't had the time for reading LN readers comments etc, but really, this episode pretty much felt like your usual average LN adaptation to me: nevermind the rushed aspect of this episode, the narrative and executions were awkward as hell.
Suffice to say, I felt like ep3 was a penultimate ep, and this one was a "ep12" due to how it was handled.

[Ap1001]

The adaptation was average, but the source story, plot, character and basically everything else was a complete master piece that leaves you hanging at every turn and makes you want to know what happens next. The mystery is captivating, the action was blood-boiling epic, the emotional parts didn't feel forced... and then this came. -sarcastic clapping-.

Bravo, god couldn't they just animate the first two novels, I understand they want to reach volume 3 and 4 since it have one of the most epic event in the history of LN (and perhaps fiction) ever, but that doesn't give them the excuse to ruin 1 and 2. Now if i'm correct, they plan on finishing 3 and 4 in 6 episodes, THAT'S MADNESS. It simply cannot be done, hell volume 3 and 4 can be a 1 cour show all by itself, but with their current budget and how they skipped all the epic action and struggle it would be impossible for them to even remotely recreate 1% of the feeling that 3 and 4 give you. Personally i think that even if they have AOT's budget they could only recreate 3 and 4's feeling, but considering they have no where near that budget i would say this is going to suck ass.

I had really high hopes, but you know what they say the more hope you have the more disappointing it is. Now I just wish they stop at volume 3 and don't even touch volume 4 since they would completely ruin the epic feeling of it.

[Dark Paladin X]

Originally Posted by Ap1001

I had really high hopes, but you know what they say the more hope you have the more disappointing it is. Now I just wish they stop at volume 3 and don't even touch volume 4 since they would completely ruin the epic feeling of it.

Yeah, I was thinking of something like that ending volume 3 with a "to be continued" stuff, then have second season of Black Bullet ready as a 2-cour covering 6-8 volumes of LN content. I personally don't mind if one volume is rushed into 4 episodes as long as they make it two cour and end it with the 6th volume. But seriously, jam rushing 4 volumes worth of LN content into 13 episodes is facepalm worthy. I blame Kadokawa for that.

I probably will not expect the anime to do well in Japan if the anime is rushed like this, and I'm afraid this may lower the chances of Black Bullet getting a proper dub. If an anime is being rushed like this, I feel that only a Bang Zoom dub can do justice to the series if Sentai decides to dub this series.

[Jerseykid]

Oh dear 42.1%

[Fireminer]

I don't understand why so many people here so obsess with dub. Even until now, the economic value of a show still heavily dependence on domestic market - except when you're Gundam.

... You know, I starting to think of Black Bullet as another HunterXHunter. Solid story, detail setting, good character, but because of their particular attribute of a Seinen in Shonen clothes, they will always be the underdogs.

[Dark Paladin X]

Originally Posted by Fireminer

I don't understand why so many people here so obsess with dub. Even until now, the economic value of a show still heavily dependence on domestic market - except when you're Gundam.

... You know, I starting to think of Black Bullet as another HunterXHunter. Solid story, detail setting, good character, but because of their particular attribute of a Seinen in Shonen clothes, they will always be the underdogs.

If my title rings any bell to you

Anyways, there are many people in this forums that like to watch their favorite anime dubbed into English. Thus being said, any anime becomes lucrative for a dub either mainly because of high streaming numbers or high sub-only DVD sales.

I do have to agree though, Black Bullet might end up being an underdog, but for completely different reasons. Black Bullet have a much solid story-line writing and characterization, but the fact that the anime is rushed may slightly lower the chances for an English dub. I probably may not expect Black Bullet to get an English dub unless Sentai Filmworks decides to outsource the dub to Bang Zoom! (and even so, their dubbing decisions tend to be very unpredictable).

Oh and the "Seinen with Shonen clothes" thing, it's kind of a bigger irony how many people mistake dark shonen anime like Attack on Titan, Black Butler, Deadman Wonderland, and Death Note as seinen when it's actually shonen (although I see where you are coming from, many people are used to shonen works incorporating seinen themes).

If you wish to discuss about my ideas for a Black Bullet English dub, feel free to PM me or post a visitor message.

[~Yami~]

Reading the manga is clearly a big mistake for me....
the manga adaptation is thousand times better... the battle got expanded clearly and darker...
Anime is like skipping the whole important part, Kisara got brushed out totally, and Enju is not pictured well...

I'm not okay with this conclusion at all
Although I have to appreciate that they handled the drama part pretty well
they just messed up in the battle against Kagetane
the pacing is horrible

Poor Kisara.... She didn't like a main cast at all in anime

[Student no.0]

Originally Posted by ~Yami~

Reading the manga is clearly a big mistake for me....
the manga adaptation is thousand times better... the battle got expanded clearly and darker...
Anime is like skipping the whole important part, Kisara got brushed out totally, and Enju is not pictured well...

I'm not okay with this conclusion at all
Although I have to appreciate that they handled the drama part pretty well
they just messed up in the battle against Kagetane
the pacing is horrible

Poor Kisara.... She didn't like a main cast at all in anime

Eh, at this rate I'm pretty sure I'll end up dropping the show in favor of reading the manga or LN when they get localized. Manga seems to be more likely but you never know (like Yen Press picking up Index).