2013-05-13, 23:24 | Link #25 | |
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Lemme give you two case of arranged marriage. 1. Both side meet for an arrange marriage. They introduce both of the one the want to arrange (i'll call it A and B). A and B finally introduced each other. If one of them is not ok, then the arrangement broke. Both party continue to search again until they meet the right one. 2. One family decide to arrange marriage for their daugther to another man. If the "mas kawin" or "conditions" fits, then the daugther become the wife of that man. Is both of this kind of arrange marriage case categorized into slavery? |
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2013-05-13, 23:26 | Link #26 |
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Daddy dearest of some social, economic or political note forces (yes, forces) his daughter to marry some cockheel for political, social or economic gain. If she refuses, Bad Things happen.
What if she doesn't love him? Hell, what if she doesn't even like him? What if he's a douchenozzle and kicks puppies? Heaven fucking forbid, what if she's a lesbian? The concept of marriage in general is moronic, but forcing someone into a marriage against their will so that Daddy-dearest can benefit in some tangible way is just... no. No. Just no. Edit: Your #1 is... just regular matchmaking with some family-oriented fluff around it. That's... not at all what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a man forcing his daughter to marry someone for his own personal gain.
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2013-05-13, 23:43 | Link #28 | |
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Yes. So I think the word "Arranged Marriage" is too broad...
My first case is simply a matchmaking-type of arranged marriage. And it is still a common practice in the eastern asia. The second case is a forced arranged marriage. Usually due to political, wealth, and relation issues. This has been observed and done since thousands years ago. This is what I think categorized as slavery because it is done without the consent of both husband and wife. Quote:
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2013-05-13, 23:50 | Link #29 |
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Tons of things that have been in practice for millennia are dumb. "Tradition" is not an exemption from criticism.
To clarify, I feel marriage is an outdated concept that needs to be properly updated for the modern world and the modern human. Edit: This is getting WAY off-topic and should probably be split off in its own thread in General.
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2013-05-14, 01:05 | Link #31 |
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Of course I read the full definition. Good grief, man, give me more credit than that.
You missed the importance of the "especially". Here's the sentence "a particular tendency or inclination, especially one that prevents unprejudiced consideration of a question; prejudice." (bold emphasis mine) The "especially" means that everything that comes after that term is "especially" biased (i.e. very biased), but also that bias can exist even without what comes after the "especially". Which is why I removed what came after the especially when I quoted the line before. If I wrote "This flooring is slippery, especially when wet", am I saying that the flooring is slippery only when it's wet? No, of course not. It just means it's very slippery when wet. Some biases are stronger and more harmful than others. Some other biases are mild and perfectly fine. A bias is simply a particular tendency or inclination. Everybody has their biases, and nobody is completely biased-free. Anybody who seriously thinks that they have no biases at all is frankly one of the most biased people of all because they refuse to admit to their own biases. Differing people having different personal preferences is what gives distinctiveness and flavor to human society. That's something I'm glad about. No, it's not. I personally know of many very happy married couples, including that of my parents and dozens of Aunts and Uncles. For millions upon millions of people, being in a life-long marriage contributes greatly to their sense of belonging, their sense of self, their sense of family, and their overall degree of happiness in life. To argue that such a thing is "moronic" strikes me as a frankly very silly argument. The concept of marriage being for everyone is not a good concept, but marriage is a perfectly functional and beneficial concept/institution for millions upon millions of people.
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2013-05-14, 01:29 | Link #33 |
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I'm talking about the legal concept of marriage... sigh...
Apologies if I've been unclear, but the legal concept of marriage is unfairly discriminatory to the single person and the unmarriageable gay couple, and favors the heteronormative couple unit. Married couples receive tax breaks and various legal powers and rights that an unmarried couple or a gay couple in a state without legal gay marriage cannot receive. The emotional concept of marriage? I quite like it. I think weddings themselves are amazing fun and I actually squee every time I think about or daydream about my own wedding.
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It is a terrifying prospect when the ones arranging it are serious.
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2013-05-14, 01:50 | Link #38 | |
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I agree with all those who are opposed to arranged marriages. The main exception would be if I was forced to marry a hot girl with big boobs, then an arranged marriage would be perfectly fine. |
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2013-05-14, 02:09 | Link #40 | |
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