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Originally Posted by Ryus
Where as everyone else in this latest debate was agreeing that that fact does exist.
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Oh? Didn't see Fermat or Arlenis saying or agreeing that there is a sudden, huge power up between 90% and 100% (awakening). Some quotes maybe to support your stance?
As for the rest, you're again forgetting that power increase is
NOT LINEAR. So a difference between 90% and 100% could still be larger than between 10% and 30% !!! As for Ophelia,
I've argued about it with Sagara recently. Like I said, I've countered your every argument, you're just ignoring them and saying the same thing.
As for Roxanne,
you were bringing her up as proof that Claymores increase their youki over time which is pointless when we know almost nothing about her.
As for Yuma, no it's not suspicious since we've seen others rise in ranks even without haf-awakening. Miria is such an example. Miria from being #17 rose to #8 before she even became half-awakened but not because she suddenly increased her youki but because Miria learned to use her youma powers more efficiently. Hilda knew from the start that Miria would surpass her (i.e. she had more youki) but because Miria couldn't control her phantom then (she could only do it once or much less times than when she fought AB in Slasher's arc) and even though her average speed was lower her max speed was from the start higher than Hilda's. The same thing probably happened to Yuma. And let's not forget that power increase is not linear. Different Claymore have different factor by which their power increases and there are often gaps between next and previous numbers. There is a gap between #11 and #9, sometimes there is a gap between #6 and #5 and there always is a gap between #1 and #3. So
a jump from #17 to #8 is humongous and possibly more than #40 to #14 (and even if not who's to say that Yuma was just a slow learner but had lots of potential). And let's not forget that Yuma is defensive so for her abilities to start to show she would need more time than offensive warriors whose abilities are designed for fights.
I'm reposting it since clearly you can't read with comprehension or just plainly ignore my arguments *sigh*
As for Hilda, the "misguided databook" argument is actually very strong and convincing which I've shown here for example:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...92#post3722792 Ophelia instantly defeated Clare, even the one that had QS. Then, once she saw her mirrored image she let her cut her up, and later she did nothing when she was being chopped up. And the only witness to this was Clare so there was no one to measure her power as an AB [maybe besides Rafaela which is doubtful since her task was Irene only and she was far away and
she didn't know who Clare was when she met her with Jean and Rubel and she would certainly recognize Irene's youki if she was a good sensor (even Miria could see different youki signature and she was rather bad at youki sensing) ergo she never sensed her earlier, otherwise she would comment on it). In Hilda's case there was Ophelia and others to measure it (there was also MiB nearby]. In Gonahl's AB case there was Ophelia present and we know there were other Claymores that tried to kill her ("are you stronger than the others" comment made by AB suggests that) so it was obvious someone would measure her power. With spider-AB there was Galatea. With Katea and Duff there was Galatea. In fact in every case shown in databooks they've had witnesses that could measure power of AB except Ophelia case where only Clare was present.
And about Hilda holding back
I've countered your argument here for example.
As for Riful, if you don't understand this argument and consider it as fallacy then I won't comment it. It's just hilarious. yeah, saying that Riful has no basis for saying what she said is a fallacy.
As for the twins, if you had read Kinematics's response to my post you would see that on many points he agrees with me and our conclusion (that Miria isn't #1 material) is the same. But again, you're convinced that you're the only one right.
All in all every argument on account that youki increases with time is weak at best.
And you never even tried to counter the argument that somehow Clare was still considered as weak, even after she defeated Rigaldo ! (and by that I mean that everyone who sensed her sensed weak youki signature which should be impossible if youki would increase with time).
But Appreciated.
".........." -Some wise words from Adventure seeker Killy in the Cyber Dungeon quest!
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Since you didn't prove that is exactly why she said it in the first place and that she concluded the same applies to Jean as well... hence not a "Teresa factor" but a Half Awakened Factor... at the very least. The core behind your argument just assumed that since Clare was unique, she can be the only one... and this is an assumption on your part and in no way reflects any character analyses of why she said it in the first place. 
