2012-11-07, 16:46 | Link #2781 | |
Adeptus Animus
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That you are friends with some is great, by the way, even if it does make me wonder why you'd support the guy who's stance on gay marriage tends to flip-flop depending on whatever nets him the most votes, and who's current stance seems to be a big, red "no." |
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2012-11-07, 16:52 | Link #2782 |
I disagree with you all.
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I'd point out that people crying doom over Obama's victory - or worse, claiming that the election was somehow stolen, or unamerican - are most pointedly not respecting their opponents' opinion. Why, then, should they deserve better?
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2012-11-07, 17:01 | Link #2784 | |
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The agony arising from this election will be split houses and an acrimonious atmosphere when you have to deal with the fiscal cliff -- and in that regard, specifically with tax code and medical legislature reform. Reform, I say, because I'm not talking about new spending or taxes, just making sure services and taxes that are supposed to be offered/paid are not skirted. Ignoring Dodd-Frank, the change in with regards to "carried interest" is going to make a pretty big impact on revenues (and hurt private equity guys). Reply hazy, try again |
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2012-11-07, 17:07 | Link #2785 |
Master of Coin
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Chiibi, I think you might just entered a crowd that may be at least half-hostile to Conservative Christians. Really issue (politics, gay marriage etc aside), Conservative Christians also love to attack things people on this forum would like
Anime (sexual display of girls O_O, homosexuality, and violence!) RPGs (D&D = Satanic rituals) Video games (Work of Satan) Harry Potter (DEMON WORSHIPERS) Do you see it? People come to this board to discuss their hobbies, and I think almost all of us had a experience like that~ |
2012-11-07, 17:31 | Link #2789 |
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I think my favorite moment of last night still has to be Karl Rove losing it on Fox News. Now he has to go try to explain to his Super-PAC donors how they just blew millions of dollars on states they came nowhere close to winning. No wonder Trump's losing it too as you can be sure he contributed a fair share of that money based on the intensity of his reaction.
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2012-11-07, 17:40 | Link #2791 | |
Knight Errant
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2012-11-07, 17:42 | Link #2792 |
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Like I said, the result of this election is a moot point because both major candidates wouldn't do what needs to be done economically.
Obama will stay the course he is already on and the effects will reach far into 2013 and beyond. Why Stocks May Keep Falling: 'The Sugar High Will End' http://www.cnbc.com/id/49728143
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2012-11-07, 17:53 | Link #2793 |
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I agree with most of his points but he's committing a pretty big No True Scotsman fallacy. Like it or not, everything he condemns IS the current Republican Party, the current definition of "conservative." What he describes hasn't really represented Republicans since Lincoln's days... paleo-paleoconservative.
By today's definitions I'd say he's a centrist who leans slightly fiscal conservative and strongly social liberal. Which is to say, I agree with a lot of what he says--except the whole messy "entitlement" business. They're not entitlements, goddamn it. They're EARNED BENEFITS. An entitlement implies that you are receiving something for nothing, but everyone fucking pays into the system at least sometime in their life. That's not an entitlement. I'm getting federal student aid now to go to school, but I spent nine years paying taxes when I was working--and because I'm single and have no kids, I damn sure had to pay the damn taxes, and didn't get much back at all.
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2012-11-07, 18:04 | Link #2794 | |
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or two. actually, your friend deserves a whole box of cookies. |
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2012-11-07, 18:21 | Link #2797 |
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I drop some cookies for you too, DJ. Very good read, and he is right, the GOP needs to get back to the center, not far out like they are right now. Then you have to deal with Super PAC and people like Karl Rove, Trump and others and the Tea Party is a problem as well.
Like one person told me, if Romney didnt have those factors in his ears and he ran the election like he want it without the distractions, he would probably won the election. I think they need to stay out of this.
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2012-11-07, 18:30 | Link #2798 | ||
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If you live and participate in the community, you've bought into accepting the costs of the community. If your footprint is big, you bear more of the cost. If there's one and only one thing the right wing in the US excels at - its hijacking the words of the debate. You lose before you start if you accept their labels.
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2012-11-07, 18:45 | Link #2800 | |
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