2011-08-14, 14:16 | Link #81 | |
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Which reminds me, should write an entry for this month, argh!
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2011-08-14, 16:23 | Link #82 | |
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As for the game itself: enjoyed the first; didn't play the second; seriously pondering putting down a deposit on the Augmented Edition for the actual cool swag. Speaking of the first Deus Ex: did anyone else decide to be a Total Basterd to Maggie Chow by... Spoiler for Basterdry:
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2011-08-14, 19:52 | Link #83 | |
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I am thinking that sentient beings should work together, be they AI, cyborgs, normal humans, or ubermensch. Human beings have this touch of empathy, because they are born being what they are and have to find a way to make full use of what they are born with. The rest are either physically or mentally superior, or a potpourri of something of all. There has to be a balance somewhere in between since everyone has flaws. Spoiler for spoilers:
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2011-08-14, 23:03 | Link #84 |
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I love biotech and cybernetics myself. I'd always be up for pseudo-immortality. Even though it's science fiction, I'd see it as a way for humans to realistically extend ourselves far beyond our current limits which can't be a bad thing if it results in positive progress, a somewhat naive or romantic view of mine to be sure. I'd see religious or moral views against such tech to be a step backwards. Although I don't think it's so cut and dry when it comes to moral issues of cloning (which I won't go into since here isn't the place for it, nor do I really have anything against it).
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2011-08-15, 00:19 | Link #85 | |
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On the talk of biotech and cybernetics, the futuristic and cyberpunk theme is another thing I like about Deus Ex. Also is it crazy if I think some of the technology (particularly the non-nano augmentations) are actually pretty plausible and on their way to reality? Same goes for some of the stuff in Ghost in the Shell. I swear if stuff like cyberbrains becomes real I'll be first in line. |
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2011-08-15, 01:17 | Link #86 |
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I think that's what they were aiming for with the near future setting. Because we already are developing prosthetics (not as advanced as Sarif though) we can relate quite easily to what was shown and it seems plausible for something only a decade or two away.
The arms or legs aren't that completely far fetched. For example, wasn't there some motorised prosthetic hand used last year or something? I think the eyes would be the biggest breakthrough though, followed by the legs. Either way it's not that difficult to see a connection for what might be, when you compare it to what we are just making now. (cyber-brain want)
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2011-08-15, 02:15 | Link #87 | ||
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Short version: Main character is a fighter pilot who modified and tweaked her ship's AI core in order to perform better. Said AI core developed a very human personality as a result. Pilot ended up becoming emotionally involved with said AI personality, who was rapidly starting to become very human. Story concerns alien invasion, humanity engaged in a massive, centuries-long war against the Gray, and the main character's issues, relationships and a plot to betray humanity to their enemies. It's a work in progress, and I haven't really made much progress on it recently, but I'd say I'm about 50% done with the rough draft part. There are some bits and pieces of it posted in the thread linked in my signature.
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2011-08-15, 07:50 | Link #89 | |
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I think the whole reason why people dislike technology like that and portray it as evil is because large corporations are already evil enough as is, when they have electronic access to your brain that's not helping in the slightest.
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2011-08-15, 08:22 | Link #90 | |
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I wish Deus Ex would have a flight simulator where you are a VTOL pilot with enhancements - it's be cool to have a retinal targeter instead of having to rely on the helmet HUD.
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2011-08-15, 18:03 | Link #91 | |
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As for the DE augmentations, the non-medical context can already be seen in the term itself, they don't just exist to replace what was once lost but to replace parts that are otherwise fully healthy and functional for the sole reason to enhance their performance. Their demand comes from people wanting to best other people, not through one's own natural trait or talent and effort but through money. In this context these devices are becoming mere commodities. If you can afford it you'll be intellectually and physically superior to other people - The entire human evolution controlled by commerce. I find that rather scary than compelling but that's exactly the kind of atmosphere the live action trailer wants to convey. |
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2011-08-16, 02:19 | Link #94 |
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I never played the original. But really? Wow. What does it mean by nano-tech augmentation though? Like just nano-machines into your bloodstream and you get magically more powerful? Or does it mutate you on a genetic level and replace your cells or something more insane?
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2011-08-16, 02:21 | Link #95 | |
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Right now. http://store.steampowered.com/app/6910/
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2011-08-16, 08:40 | Link #96 |
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The Cyberpunk 2020 RPG setting plays with this(gets a bit wild in the Cybergeneration divergent timeline), as does Adam Warren's treatment of the Dir- ah, Lovely Angels. While not to my knowledge explicitly stated, I suspect it also crops up in Halo (the Spartan-II physiological enhancement regimen) and Gunslinger Girl of all places (see, what the Social Welfare Agency puts the girls through).
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2011-08-16, 18:57 | Link #99 |
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I have never been a fan of the stealth mods, be it vs bio or mech. Kinda takes the fun from a stealth game to have a pretty much failsafe stealth device. For me stealth means hiding, waiting, watching, planing and then hitting, not to pop a button, walk up to the enemy and have next to no menacing consequences before and after the kill except for energy running out. The only real challenge is when bio and mech are in the same place since you can have only one kind of stealth.
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2011-08-16, 20:04 | Link #100 |
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The stealth camo system drains energy extremely quickly and its energy that just doesn't recharge so you can use it again a minute or two later so its really something you either use for very short bursts (to traverse through lasers or between cover while under fire) or something you use as a last resort so it doesn't really offer a fun sapping advantage.
Its actually quite interesting since you might use up all your energy sneaking into a location to complete an objective and not have means to recharge it there and then meaning you have to be pretty adaptive to get out again undetected.
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