Maria-sama ga Miteru 4th - Episode 9 Discussion / Poll

[4Tran]

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[mintyfresh]

It seems this episode also covered an entire novel after all.
However, I'm not the slightest bit unsatisfied about it. Everything seemed to have been done so well, and the story flowed together perfectly, with hardly a sense of things being rushed.

I've actually been trying to revert back to how I enjoyed Marimite when I watched the first season -- as simply an anime rather than an adaptation from novels. And while that's kind of hard for me to do now, I think that if the episode's good, that should really be all that matters. And consequently, I certainly thought this episode was one of the better ones.

Spoiler for Ah, but...:

I am admittedly a little upset that they didn't have time to show Rei and Nana's match, or Rei teaching Yoshino how to ride a bike, but I can live without that for now.

As for the rest of the episode, I especially loved the scene where Yumi walks up to the podium for her speech. I initially thought they were going to show her entire speech or something, but the way they stopped right after her introduction was really well done.

Besides that, Noriko had almost all of my favorite scenes this ep. Especially her "FIGHTO--!"
Since when was this a moe show..? (;´Д`)

Next week we finally get to the Ookina Tobira... arc, which I actually have read (separating book from anime will be even more difficult now...). However, it looks like they're spacing this one out over 2 episodes. I cannot begin to describe how much at ease that puts me.

[Molenir]

As much as I'm enjoying this, I wouldn't have minded a 5th season of Marimite as well. I would have been happy if they had slowed the series down and included the details I know they're leaving out. Still, has been a good series so far.

[dream-seeker]

Episode is really only focused on Yumi. Maybe, (just maybe) there is a chance that they will do another season for other roses and side stories too. Anyway, I don't remember the previous roses (Youko's batch) interfering so much about the business of their en boutons. But I don't mind it on ep9, it shows they support each other. Their friendship/sisterhood bond has gotten stronger and bits of pure/innocent love shown. I guess it's what they are aiming to deliver.

[Lesca]

Good Episode...

Spoiler for Ep 9:

Anyone know what Yoshino's outburst was about? and what Shimako said to her, all sparkly eye'd, to make her nearly spit out her tea xD whatever it was, seeing Yoshino speechless was so funny.
I'm really liking Noriko more, it's so nice that's she's getting a lot more scenes now, because she's good friends with Touko. I take it Touko resigned or something from the competition for the next roses?

[cynicalicious]

Spoiler for Ep 9:

VERY Roughly, they were talking about Touko entering the election, and Shimako was saying that it was fair for Touko to run, and they (the 3 of them running against her) didn't have the right to be the next YYK unless they were elected properly. She was being very White Rose about it. (Sei would have been proud of her.)

Naturally, Yoshino blew up, because she couldn't care less about right and wrong, she didn't want to have her precious group of friends broken up, and she didn't like Shimako talking about her friends as if they were strangers.

So Shimako went all White Rose again and said that's why she loves Yoshino, and from here on out, please say exactly what's on her mind.

And naturally, Yoshino almost chokes on her tea. lol.

Then Sachiko and Rei engage in bad puns. Ugh.

Yoshino and Shimako are a hoot.

[Woodchips]

::Cough::

I was really looking forward to this episode. It's taken quite a few episodes, but the last few have really started to get the formula right as far as pacing and plot progression is concerned. And this episode... just lost it again.

I know they have a bit of character development to go over, but I think it has already been established that Yumi is pining over Touko, that Touko is not the cold-hearted girl that we see projected most of the time, and that the Roses are a very close-knit group of friends. Do we really need to have an entire twenty minutes dedicated to something that could easily be covered in half that time?

Now, I'm all for character studies, character development, and using time to really flesh out the characters and their relationships, but I think they just got the balance all wrong. No new material is being covered as far as character thoughts are concerned, and only a little in the way of plot has been progressed.

Before anyone tries to tell me that they skipped out a lot of material from the novels, I am talking about this purely based on the material from the anime, and analysing the anime purely based on what is presented in the anime.

I am hoping with the end of the season rapidly approaching, that we will start to pick up the pace again, to match the last few episodes.

Overall I gave this episode a 6/10 (Average). I'm probably being a bit harsh, but I kept watching the clock to see how much time until they started to progress things, which unfortunately never happened.

[Shiroth]

Spoiler for Episode 09:

Wow, now that was a great Shimako moment.

Another great episode with more development between Touko and Yumi. Noriko is truly shining in this season --- she had some great scenes this week, and it looks to carry on into next weeks episode.

Oh, and it was so obvious that the woman was Touko's Mother.

[sa547]

@Woodchips @Lesca: uh, look out, guys. Mods don't want the "magic word".

[Anh_Minh]

Shimako's the best. Every time I look at her, I can't help but think "it'd be such a waste for her to become a nun".

Noriko was funny with her fightos. Quite different from last year's White Rose relationship.

[inisipis]

Like how the episode plays out. I really like how they finally dealt with dynamics between Yoshino and Shimako. The Yin and Yang of the Yamayurikai. It would certainly be an interesting reign when it's Yumi's group turn to head it. Much more entertaining than the one woman show during Sachiko's time.

Past experiences always show that Yoshino is the get in charge kind of person with Yumi tapering her more extreme excess along with Shimako giving solid wise advise.

I also almost spilled my drink, just like Yoshino, when Shimako says that she "likes Yoshino..." Totally funny. I always knew that Shimako is a Belldandy in training. All that's left is she sprouts Holy Bell

Touko has really ante up her stakes regarding her relationship with Yumi and the rest. Can't really tell whats in her mind (thus making it more ineresting). Curiouser and curiouser. She even played out a Rosa Canina stunt. can't wait for the next Episode.

[sa547]

Spoiler:

Why Touko entered the candidacy, I'm reminded of how Shizuka Kanina tried to do the same thing, except in a different way.

Whereas Shizuka seems to be trying to get closer to Sei, I suppose that Touko was giving Yumi a challenge, either as a spoiler (pardon me) or a third choice.

Another thing: for the first time we get to see Touko's presumed mother/stepmother.

[Anh_Minh]

I think Touko did it so they could really win the election. They needed a villain to defeat for that. And she does like villain roles.

[mintyfresh]

Originally Posted by Woodchips

Overall I gave this episode a 6/10 (Average). I'm probably being a bit harsh, but I kept watching the clock to see how much time until they started to progress things, which unfortunately never happened.

That's funny. I had the exact opposite experience.
While watching this episode I kept one eye on the status bar to make sure that there was still plenty of room left for things to keep going. When I finally saw that the ep was getting close to the end, I felt a little downcast.

Granted, I can't say that I don't understand your frustration.

[Kazu-kun]

Well, since I hate Toko and this episode's artwork was ugly as f**k, I'll give it a 4. Really, those close-up of Shimako's face were just painful to watch.

[Molenir]

Well I really enjoyed this episode. I still don't understand what Touko was thinking, why she entered the election. I think its more then wanting to provide a villain. I don't think that sounds right. I'm thinking perhaps, just once, she wanted to stand on the same stage as Yumi, but maybe even more then that. Hopefully we'll find out more in the next episode or 2 when we finally learn Touko's secret.

[textgirl]

where is everyone readin the novels but it was alright but i dont know y touko did wat she did i mean damn they where gonna winn anyway so wat was the point of her enterin

[Nochgo]

Hmm... Maybe it's because I watched this episode while half asleep, but I thought it was rather eventless. Though I did enjoy the episode, like Noriko, as Woodchips said, nothing really new was introduced in the episode. Maybe I'll have to watch the episode again later.
And I was pretty confused about Touko entering the election as well. What I thougth of at the end, was that Touko entered the election to make the roses' winning more profound (?). Like, if the roses en bouten had no competition, they become the student councils by default. So by having a second party running, other students can really show that they wanted the roses en bouten to be the next roses by picking them. Not sure if I even explained my views correctly.

[Proto]

Other than bouten being actually bouton, it seems like a pretty reasonable observation.

[Droplet]

powerful. 10/10