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Arha
2012-04-07, 09:49
There is a foursome scene with Wil and the three heroines in the gothic outfits.

Wait, really? That's probably the last scene that I don't have/know how to get. What are the requirements?

As for getting 400% prices, I just cleared out the arena a couple times, kept all the safes, did stuff like Tian's quests and got all the map bonus rewards. At first I just had the safes and the craftable +5 counters but after awhile it really built up as I replaced those counters one by one.

Wigwams
2012-04-07, 10:04
Wait, really? That's probably the last scene that I don't have/know how to get. What are the requirements?
try making all 3 of them wear their gothic costumes. leave the house and go in again. if that doesnt work, maybe some upgrading is needed (i fully upgraded my 3 gothic costumes).

Kleeyook
2012-04-07, 10:36
I fell in love at first sight when I first saw Ragsmuena. Man, I wish she were the main heroine! :(

Arha
2012-04-07, 10:42
It's a pity that so little is done with Ragsmuena. I rather liked her but you get her so late that there's no room for character development or even just interacting with everyone.

Aha, now I got that scene. And it makes no sense at all in classic Kamidori style. Especially since it apparently wasn't a dream.

Mahou
2012-04-07, 12:48
It's a pity that so little is done with Ragsmuena. I rather liked her but you get her so late that there's no room for character development or even just interacting with everyone.


Yep, Ragsmuena is another of ther really likeable characters. I think her best interaction is the last star-icon event with Yuela when they have the sitting-back-to-back talk at night :)

doujin
2012-04-07, 23:11
so none here want to see wil X leguna?

Mizuno
2012-04-07, 23:15
Leguna is an eyesore to me. Whenever Wil advances, he does too just for some plot reason or another.

And yeah Ragsmuena and Melodiana should have been heroines. Melodiana especially, her true self is just so lovable. :)

Xacual
2012-04-07, 23:18
Leguna is an eyesore to me. Whenever Wil advances, he does too just for some plot reason or another.


Well in one of the routes he doesn't, but that has to do with the plot of that route so I'll stop there. In the other two routes he's pretty much steps in as Wil's aide once he becomes Lord.

Honestly I really felt like after playing those two routes and then the last one that he acted really out of character. I know he said he had best intentions and everything but it just felt odd given everything he did and was willing to do to help out Wil in the other two routes.

Arha
2012-04-07, 23:44
Leguna was kind of odd in that last route, but I felt it worked. The structure of the story seemed superior, at least, since there was less information coming out of nowhere.

I don't know about having Ragsmuena as a main heroine despite rather liking her. I'm not sure she could really carry a story. Melodiana obviously can. If it was up to me, I'd rather see Rags recruited earlier and then given more scenes. Give her the kind of focus that Melodiana has, which is pretty close to one of the heroines.

Xacual
2012-04-07, 23:56
Leguna was kind of odd in that last route, but I felt it worked. The structure of the story seemed superior, at least, since there was less information coming out of nowhere.

I don't know about having Ragsmuena as a main heroine despite rather liking her. I'm not sure she could really carry a story. Melodiana obviously can. If it was up to me, I'd rather see Rags recruited earlier and then given more scenes. Give her the kind of focus that Melodiana has, which is pretty close to one of the heroines.

I agree, I think in Yuela route at least that Ragsmuena should have been recruited sooner and been more important to the plot, since she had some of Yuela's sister's memories still. Well fragments of her memories anyway.

doujin
2012-04-07, 23:59
raqsmuena can be about how she gain her human soul again and she and her sister try to revive their old clan which then go into more detail about disna shogun, cause seriously that guy is strangely mysterious cant tell is he a bad guy or good guy. i bet everyone here want to know more about him.

Arha
2012-04-08, 01:25
raqsmuena can be about how she gain her human soul again and she and her sister try to revive their old clan which then go into more detail about disna shogun, cause seriously that guy is strangely mysterious cant tell is he a bad guy or good guy. i bet everyone here want to know more about him.

Ragsmuena is not Yuela's sister, she's the reaper she was attached to. The last real event with Rags is both Yuela and her agreeing that she shouldn't even try to be Yuela's sister. That said, it would have been interesting for there to be a subplot regarding her gaining some of the memories at least and this could have been a required part of Yuela's route. You had to recruit Elizaslayn and Kohakuren anyway, right? Having Rags be one of those required recruitments could have really filled in all those gaps in the story in Yuela's route.

However, giving us that information would only be appropriate in Yuela's route. For the other two, I suppose if it was up to me I'd have written Rags subplot with her gaining more interest in the community and people she comes into contact with. Rags is kind of defined by being empty, so that emptiness is what her subplot would revolve around.

doujin
2012-04-08, 01:27
Ragsmuena is not Yuela's sister, she's the reaper she was attached to. The last real event with Rags is both Yuela and her agreeing that she shouldn't even try to be Yuela's sister. That said, it would have been interesting for there to be a subplot regarding her gaining some of the memories at least and this could have been a required part of Yuela's route. You had to recruit Elizaslayn and Kohakuren anyway, right? Having Rags be one of those required recruitments could have really filled in all those gaps in the story in Yuela's route.

However, giving us that information would only be appropriate in Yuela's route. For the other two, I suppose if it was up to me I'd have written Rags subplot with her gaining more interest in the community and people she comes into contact with. Rags is kind of defined by being empty, so that emptiness is what her subplot would revolve around.

that why i said gain her human soul which would that thing they cut back in earlier chapter

Arha
2012-04-08, 01:29
Isn't that Yuela's sister's soul? I was under the impression that Rags was always a reaper and after being separated she's a disoriented at most.

doujin
2012-04-08, 01:45
Isn't that Yuela's sister's soul? I was under the impression that Rags was always a reaper and after being separated she's a disoriented at most.

dont know, they really left out bunches of plots in yuela path.

Xacual
2012-04-08, 02:00
Isn't that Yuela's sister's soul? I was under the impression that Rags was always a reaper and after being separated she's a disoriented at most.

dont know, they really left out bunches of plots in yuela path.

Arha is right, at least from what the game told us, Ragsmuena was a reaper that somehow Yuela's sister's soul got fused with.

To be honest considering we were told about reapers as high level monsters early on, I expected to see some kind of them deep in the NG+ mines.

doujin
2012-04-08, 02:01
Arha is right, at least from what the game told us, Ragsmuena was a reaper that somehow Yuela's sister's soul got fused with.

which no one know how it happen XD

Xacual
2012-04-08, 02:04
Which is what I meant on the last page, Ragsmuena really should have joined sooner in Yuela route and been explored more there. To be honest, a lot of games seem to do that now a days, plot holes, unexplored characters or areas. It can get kind of annoying.

Arha
2012-04-08, 02:42
Gaptahl and Paraskevas are similarly lacking in development, really. Kohakuren has some focus to make up for that, but on the other hand Uya gets to speak about twice in the entire story.

As for recruiting Rags earlier, I think it could have been done in all the routes. Give her a bit more focus in those and use her to fill in the plot in Yuela's route and I'd be satisfied. I don't think I'd make her hugely more important in the common route scenes, just about as much time as Sharty gets.

Mizuno
2012-04-08, 08:08
Gaptahl and Paraskevas are similarly lacking in development, really.

Why do you want to see more of their developments? Are you looking forward to their H scenes? ;)

Arha
2012-04-08, 09:43
No, I just don't like characters being introduced purely for gameplay purposes. I'm not going to get upset over it, though. Especially when I don't find either one interesting: Paraskevas doesn't speak and his recruitment mission didn't make him seem interesting and Gaptahl is just a grumpy old man.

And man, Aht is another one of those H scenes that made me die a little inside. "Hello, Wil, I'm kind of like your mother and just got a body. Let's have sex!"

Dhomochevsky
2012-04-08, 09:50
They obviously went through a fetish checklist. ;)

Most notably, Suina was 'born from Wil's father's desire to protect the lake'. So she's basicly Wil's sister and he knows this.
Consequently she calls him 'onii-chan' during H scenes...

Mahou
2012-04-08, 10:42
They obviously went through a fetish checklist. ;)

Most notably, Suina was 'born from Wil's father's desire to protect the lake'. So she's basicly Wil's sister and he knows this.
Consequently she calls him 'onii-chan' during H scenes...

Yeah, in retrospec Suina's h-scene was kinda creepy despite that I generally don't mind (w)incest IF it's done decently-enough.
Ragmuena's was relatively normal due to the cliché of providing "life force/energy the ecchi way :heh:

Crayanne's h-scenes were also rather weird >_<. Kinda a shame as I liked her character indvidually.

Dhomochevsky
2012-04-08, 10:50
By the way, when they told us of Suina's procreation, I couldn't help but picture Will's father jacking off into the lake...
I feel so dirty for this, but it just seems like the most logical explanation of how this happened. :heh:

Arha
2012-04-08, 12:01
Crayanne's first scene was the only scene more awkward than Aht's. I didn't know whether to laugh or be appalled.

Flying Dagger
2012-04-08, 13:34
I skipped almost all scenes in the game except for melo's.
Aht's 6 pack really freaked me out. The 6 pack, clothes, and character just do not match.
Suina's seem out of character, /holds ctrl.

Mizuno
2012-04-08, 18:25
I wish they had the H scene with Suina's 'sister' instead, like while she was still in that body. Yeah, some of these H scenes are so sudden and honestly I ain't touching Aht.

Arha
2012-04-08, 20:55
Aht's face and expression bother me more than the muscles. That and the way she dresses.

Dhomochevsky
2012-04-08, 21:12
Aht's a mana.
The other mana don't wear any clothes at all.
Suina looks like she's wearing some, but that is all translucent blue, which means she's actually naked all the time.
So Aht is the prudest mana in the game. ;)

Mizuno
2012-04-08, 23:11
Aht's face and expression bother me more than the muscles. That and the way she dresses.

And her voice.

Flying Dagger
2012-04-08, 23:37
Aht would prob be more lovable if she is a loli in normal loli attire.

Mizuno
2012-04-09, 01:55
Actually I'd object to that. Too loli like Emelita just isn't my cup of tea. :p

ron15
2012-04-09, 06:43
What are the requirements for meister rank?

Ginji-kun
2012-04-09, 11:04
Hello anyone know how you recruit Kohakuren into your party i'm on chapter 8 and shes currently a guest in the part? :P

Flying Dagger
2012-04-09, 11:20
What are the requirements for meister rank?

Hello anyone know how you recruit Kohakuren into your party i'm on chapter 8 and shes currently a guest in the part? :P

http://games.seiha.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=102

amoirsp
2012-04-09, 19:28
Hm I'm finishing up NG++ and noticing a few things didn't pop up.

Basically it looks like there's a lot of CGs on my file that aren't unlocked, most likely Eushully Angel or other character scenes.

I saw some screen shot on Marsterria. If that's real, how does one unlock it? Do you decline writing letters to Roka? (Or maybe obtain all items in the game or something along those lines?)

Completion of the level 90 dungeons was done, so by this point I'm going for the remaining completion. Thanks.

Xacual
2012-04-09, 19:44
*Let's see, do both extra stories to completion. Make sure to then do the threesome scene with both angels.
*Make sure to level the 4 mascot angels and their weapons to unlock their second weapon / item quests, those give cgs.
*Write letters to Roka to get the scene with her new armor.
*Make sure to get all clothing scenes, including putting all 3 heroines in their mascot outfits / the foursome scene with them all wearing the gothic outfit.
*Level Mylen and Phinilly to get their scenes. Asmodeus' only scene is pretty much given to you once she joins.
*Complete Lyphia and Evelyn's questline for their scene.

That should be everything beyond normal game cg gotten during the routes, ignoring the NG characters.

amoirsp
2012-04-09, 20:03
Much appreciated. Looks like majority of it is Emelita's route, the completion of Seralwi's route, 2/4 on the reaper encounter (I guess it's different in Emelita's route maybe. Likewise missing the Emelita special armor but that's more obvious)?

And then there's one missing to the right of the CG of flying on Gaphatl (and thus to the left of Wil and Leguna drinking at the bar). Missing 1/5 of drinking at the bar with Leguna.

I suppose if I finish Emelita's route I'll get most if not all the rest of the missing question marks. I made sure to leave just about no quest unfinished.

Getting some artifacts is a pain though. Thanks for the quick response.

Mizuno
2012-04-10, 07:46
Sometimes I really feel like this game is trolling me. For example, in the Fox Shrine map, I defeated all the enemies and I checked every nook and cranny but I'm stuck at 99%. Seriously...

Arha
2012-04-10, 08:20
Sometimes I really feel like this game is trolling me. For example, in the Fox Shrine map, I defeated all the enemies and I checked every nook and cranny but I'm stuck at 99%. Seriously...

During that long passage right before the end, on the left side about 1/3 of the way through there's a tiny single room. You'll need Sharty or a Wing Bracelet to get to it. ...Or attach that Hermit thingy that I always sell immediately to another flying character. There's a card in there that's for one of the bonuses.

Wigwams
2012-04-10, 10:28
im lvl 77-80 now. but all available dungeons are for lvl 90. is there a place where i can easily grind some lvls? maybe upto 85 or something.

Arha
2012-04-10, 10:29
I think there are some level 80 mine maps once you clear out the lower level ones.

Flying Dagger
2012-04-10, 11:03
If you bring enough potions with you, doing one of the easier lv90+ maps is not that bad. You will be leveling extremely quickly (about a level every 2 kills). By the time you are done you might be in the lv90 range already.

Mizuno
2012-04-10, 16:35
During that long passage right before the end, on the left side about 1/3 of the way through there's a tiny single room. You'll need Sharty or a Wing Bracelet to get to it. ...Or attach that Hermit thingy that I always sell immediately to another flying character. There's a card in there that's for one of the bonuses.

Thanks a lot for that. :D

amoirsp
2012-04-10, 17:32
Dumb but real quick question: How does one attain 100% completion at the arena?

Xacual
2012-04-10, 17:53
Dumb but real quick question: How does one attain 100% completion at the arena?

It's only possible on Emelita route since her route has arena fights. Also requires completing the three NG+ Jane request arena fights. Otherwise I think it caps at like 91 or 92% counting the three NG+ fights.

Arha
2012-04-10, 19:06
Does 100% at the arena actually do anything? I just finished Emelita's route without doing a couple of the gauntlet events because characters like Uya are laughably underleveled and poorly geared.

Xacual
2012-04-10, 19:14
No, you only need to complete Wil's gauntlet to do the NG+ Jane stuff.

Wigwams
2012-04-10, 19:39
I think there are some level 80 mine maps once you clear out the lower level ones.
yeah but they give shitty exp. :heh: probably because they are recycled units. the tigress from untoachable cage was awesome during my 60+ farming though.

If you bring enough potions with you, doing one of the easier lv90+ maps is not that bad. You will be leveling extremely quickly (about a level every 2 kills). By the time you are done you might be in the lv90 range already.
hmmm. i was hoping for something more like where i can just sit back in my base with 1 char wearing the marwen ring/necklace and 2-3 backup. then just withdraw when things get bad for me.
i checked the lvl 90 dungeons from outside town, no free withdraw i think?

Xacual
2012-04-10, 20:26
yeah but they give shitty exp. :heh: probably because they are recycled units. the tigress from untoachable cage was awesome during my 60+ farming though.


There are a few with higher level mobs. One that comes to mind is the Hinaos Hall I think it was? The werewolves and stuff there are level 75 mobs I believe. Maybe 80, I know I was using the place for Wil's 500 kills since the 3 werewolf portals spawn 1 every turn and got Wil to 82-83ish before the xp really slowed down.

doujin
2012-04-10, 21:24
There are a few with higher level mobs. One that comes to mind is the Hinaos Hall I think it was? The werewolves and stuff there are level 75 mobs I believe. Maybe 80, I know I was using the place for Wil's 500 kills since the 3 werewolf portals spawn 1 every turn and got Wil to 82-83ish before the xp really slowed down.

yeh "garou-savior in the dark" is not only good for level but also good for grind weapon mastery since the mastery will increase slightly for each battle encounter(doesnt matter if u kill them or alive still same gain).

FR34X
2012-04-10, 23:29
I was curious, I am trying to level up some of my lower level characters. Does the level of the monster even matter? Im on my second playthrough and I had my level 30 kill a 85 hellhound and he got like 2 xp. Are mobs set in their exp or is it like based of of their base level? Thanks =D

Flying Dagger
2012-04-11, 00:15
xp is based on the base xp of the monster as listed on the info index.
The reason why the lv90 dungeons imo is better for lvl from 80+ is because they have a very high base xp of 40. Take in the lv90 base level into account and you will be leveling up almost every single kill.

Mizuno
2012-04-11, 00:34
My highest level character is about level 40, and I'm having a hard time beating rank M special battle. Is that normal? How should I prepare? It's the battle against 4 Melkaveil and the ghost rider. With Yuela, I can only move one square every time and the Melkaveil just spam their missiles at me from a distant. I have a high avoid rate but still can't dodge everything if they keep at it like that. I have Crescent moon equipped but it isn't dealing good damage...

FR34X
2012-04-11, 00:51
Thanks for the info dagger.

My highest level character is about level 40, and I'm having a hard time beating rank M special battle. Is that normal? How should I prepare? It's the battle against 4 Melkaveil and the ghost rider. With Yuela, I can only move one square every time and the Melkaveil just spam their missiles at me from a distant. I have a high avoid rate but still can't dodge everything if they keep at it like that. I have Crescent moon equipped but it isn't dealing good damage...

I had Yuela but I think she was more around 50 or 60 when I did it my first try make sure you have your best upgraded armor equipped. I ended up going for the rider then slowly ever so slowly killing the melk guys actually the last 3 ran out of mana and started meleeing me doubling my attacks.

doujin
2012-04-11, 00:56
My highest level character is about level 40, and I'm having a hard time beating rank M special battle. Is that normal? How should I prepare? It's the battle against 4 Melkaveil and the ghost rider. With Yuela, I can only move one square every time and the Melkaveil just spam their missiles at me from a distant. I have a high avoid rate but still can't dodge everything if they keep at it like that. I have Crescent moon equipped but it isn't dealing good damage...

fire armor- prevail skill
best evade shield
pray hard

FR34X
2012-04-11, 01:18
I have another odd question what does the +various furniture do?

Flying Dagger
2012-04-11, 01:19
they may have different effects in different rooms.

Xacual
2012-04-11, 01:19
fire armor- prevail skill
best evade shield
pray hard

This really, also keep out of range of the rider until the robots are dead, first turn you should move down a space and then every turn after that just attack the robots. Remember their rocket attack is a 3 range skill so try to attack the robots in a way so that if you kill one and take it's place, one or two of the other robots have to move and attack you in melee to reach you. Saves time instead of letting him sit in one spot attacking every turn.

I did it on normal with my Yuela at 39 with what doujin said. Prevail 3, Angelwing shield, other skills can vary but you want survivability more so than damage, prevail 3 will give you pretty much all the damage you need + disruptor from your weapon of course.

Mizuno
2012-04-11, 01:54
Ah, this brings me to another question. I'll report back how it goes with the arena battle later.

I know you can get a scene if you upgrade their armor enough, but obviously you can't do it in one playthrough especially the first 'cause you need a huge amount of money and materials for that. Does it mean the game expect you to play it multiple times (even replaying the same routes) to get all the scenes...?

doujin
2012-04-11, 01:58
Ah, this brings me to another question. I'll report back how it goes with the arena battle later.

I know you can get a scene if you upgrade their armor enough, but obviously you can't do it in one playthrough especially the first 'cause you need a huge amount of money and materials for that. Does it mean the game expect you to play it multiple times (even replaying the same routes) to get all the scenes...?

you going to play 4 time gonna have to replay one of ur heroine twice since her cameo armor scene only show after 1st play through.

Mizuno
2012-04-11, 02:41
Is that heroine the one meant to be on the first playthrough? If that's the case, then it'd be Yuela then..

Xacual
2012-04-11, 02:52
You can only get cameo outfit scenes from NG+, and you can only get outfit scenes for the heroine whose route you are on, not counting the foursome scene of course. So therefor to get all the scenes you'll have to replay your first heroine again to chapter 5 or 6 so you can do the cameo outfit scene for her that wouldn't have been available the first time.

Mizuno
2012-04-11, 03:15
Last question for now regarding the armor, is it correct that each costume costs more or less 300k to fully upgrade? Anyone actually fully upgraded more than one armor on their first playthrough? This seems really time-consuming (farming) if you're not in NG+...

Xacual
2012-04-11, 03:33
I upgraded about half the sets, some of them fully. Making money is really simple once you figure out all the things you can take advantage of. Ninja blades, barrel piles, the mess, etc. Level up some characters just enough to get their events, Sharty, Crayl and Crayanne are good for this and then leave them working the store. Any material above 10-20 is excess, find a recipe to use to get rid of it.

Mizuno
2012-04-11, 03:42
Speaking of Ninja Blade, it has the Thief ability, what exactly does it do? Does that have to do with the occasional instant kill or you actually can loot better items? If it's the former, then that's just misleading. :p

Xacual
2012-04-11, 03:43
Thief is lockpick and search? I forget. You can check skills from the lexicon.

Mizuno
2012-04-11, 04:35
Can't find it in Lexicon. :(

And I prevailed in the arena battle without equipping Prevail, I actually forgot about it. XD Wasted a bunch of potions though.

This is really important... do armor upgrades carry over to NG+?

Xacual
2012-04-11, 05:34
Can't find it in Lexicon. :(

And I prevailed in the arena battle without equipping Prevail, I actually forgot about it. XD Wasted a bunch of potions though.

This is really important... do armor upgrades carry over to NG+?

If you carry over items yes. Not using prevail is such a waste, Yuela should always be using Prevail :p

doujin
2012-04-11, 07:01
Can't find it in Lexicon. :(

And I prevailed in the arena battle without equipping Prevail, I actually forgot about it. XD Wasted a bunch of potions though.

This is really important... do armor upgrades carry over to NG+?

go info-skill

doujin
2012-04-11, 07:07
hey anyone remember where to get maria heart? need this last piece for leguna M weapon

Xacual
2012-04-11, 07:14
One of the Yuela route missions is all I remember.

doujin
2012-04-11, 07:31
One of the Yuela route missions is all I remember.

thx, before going to rage mode and throw my kb.

Mizuno
2012-04-11, 07:37
I think it's one of the missions in ch 7-8 since I remember I got it not long ago and I'm in ch 9.

FR34X
2012-04-11, 11:53
Do marwens ring and necklace stack?

Jofus
2012-04-11, 12:58
Did I get bad luck in Serawi's stat gains during level up, or is she just incredibly weak? Because she is level 50 and all of her stats are like mid 20's aside from hp, fs, and sp.

Flying Dagger
2012-04-11, 13:01
Serawi is very weak outside of run 1, where her fire armor provide the skills needed for her to be decently competitive and her healing skills might save you potion money.

Her low stats make her pretty weak in NG+ unless you feed her all your stat stones. The healing spells also do not scale making them useless.

Jofus
2012-04-11, 13:19
Alright, because I thought that maybe I was building her incorrectly, as I was trying to make her an attack damage champ instead of a caster by taking advantage of her long range.

Guess I will bench her and use Emilita who is surprisingly very good with her Little Devil Robe. And Yuela is just a beast.

Flying Dagger
2012-04-11, 13:32
I posted my emelita build many pages back involving using bloodsuck III to tank and reflect to do extra damage. She is a surprisingly powerful character if you use the right mix of spells. She can even retaliate melee attacks too!

Randrak42
2012-04-11, 15:30
Why the hell can't I finish this game!? D:

I've played two of the 3 routes...currently half way through the Yuela route with massively OP characters that should make it so easy...yet I suddenly can't be arsed to finish the goddamn game. It's worst considering I was loving the game and yuela's route was actually becoming my fav...what is wrong with this picture!

/rant

Arha
2012-04-11, 15:59
Burned out myself. Got to the start of my second Yuela play with the intention of actually finishing all the bonus areas and stuff but then I got distracted by Hoshizora no Memoria and now I'm playing Majikoi.

As for Emelita, she really can make a pretty durable unit. Couple that with her flexible attacks and high range and suddenly she's actually useful! She was such a pain before new game plus and the armor upgrades.

I suppose the problem with Serawi is that she doesn't know if she wants to be an archer or caster and thus ends up unable to do either satisfactorily.

Mahou
2012-04-11, 16:22
Burned out myself. Got to the start of my second Yuela play with the intention of actually finishing all the bonus areas and stuff but then I got distracted by Hoshizora no Memoria and now I'm playing Majikoi.

As for Emelita, she really can make a pretty durable unit. Couple that with her flexible attacks and high range and suddenly she's actually useful! She was such a pain before new game plus and the armor upgrades.

I suppose the problem with Serawi is that she doesn't know if she wants to be an archer or caster and thus ends up unable to do either satisfactorily.

Hoshizora was very nice asides from a few not-so-decent aspects, imho :D. Beautiful OST + Komomo-chan + Mare = epic win.
But, speaking of burned out, I also didn't continue my new game ++ in Emilita's route. I have been distracted with Dracu-Riot, StrawberryFeels, Mashiro-iro Symphony.

Mizuno
2012-04-11, 17:19
Ran into a bit of a problem... just after Yuela rejoins in ch 9, your characters are meant to gain new skills in workshop events. However, I'm missing the stars on Aht and Ragsmuena. What could be wrong? Is it because they aren't put into battle enough?

Flying Dagger
2012-04-11, 18:07
I played Hoshizora and its fandisk using a chinese translation patch half a year ago and loved it very much (Kosame>komomo imo! - I also like the OST very much (still listening to it)). But haven't really touched this game after finishing all three routes. The game has served me well and I would like to see an eventual translation of Eushully's next game.



Waiting for seinarukana.



Ran into a bit of a problem... just after Yuela rejoins in ch 9, your characters are meant to gain new skills in workshop events. However, I'm missing the stars on Aht and Ragsmuena. What could be wrong? Is it because they aren't put into battle enough?


I suspect not high enough level. Rags gain Trophy Hunter which is quite useful.

amoirsp
2012-04-11, 18:09
New problem: Where do I get Plutus Gem?

My first NG+ had two of them so at the time I had enough to do the Kettle and Fan. This NG++ I had gotten only one Plutus Gem so I'm torn on either my delayed Vacuum/Spira due for Eushully or make Anastasia actually start kicking Cross Counters around.

... I might have answered my own question (one plutus gem per game run) but if there's a second obtainable one I'd want to make sure I get it.

Any strategic suggestions on Isolated Path/Isolated Battlefield? Fighting 30-40 levels under on hard mode made me wonder how I beat it the first time around. Sharty decided to flop on damage (actually I think using hard mode + no enemy level cap simply made their defense annoying). There might have been a high powered Dark glove I missed in the elemental dungeon but I'm not sure where I went wrong.

FR34X
2012-04-11, 18:27
I just got the fountain of youth, but you need their artifacts can you use it on will or the 3 main ladies?

Xacual
2012-04-11, 18:37
I just got the fountain of youth, but you need their artifacts can you use it on will or the 3 main ladies?

You can fountain of youth every character as long as they are level 99 and have their artifact equipped.

FR34X
2012-04-11, 18:48
Ah ty much

Mizuno
2012-04-11, 18:53
I suspect not high enough level. Rags gain Trophy Hunter which is quite useful.

Apparently that's not the case as my Aht is higher level than Suina and Suina got the event... Ah now I'm stuck.

Arha
2012-04-11, 19:00
I also preferred Kosame to Komomo. While both had good routes, Kosame has the better romance.

Personally, I tend to put Sharty in the same sort of camp that Serawi is in: Good on the first play through, but unable to really compete anymore at a high level. I don't even use the Eushully maids and she's still outclassed.

As for Rags, I think you have to level her quite a bit to get that event. More than you would in a normal level of play. Or maybe I was just underleveled on everyone not named Wil or Yuela for my first playthroughs.

Randrak42
2012-04-11, 19:14
Am I the only one that in his third playtrough on normal just went "Screw it" and only used Wil? It just gets so damn easy to solo nearly everything xD

amoirsp
2012-04-11, 19:39
Another question: is there an actual Marsterria location you can enter? Or are all the remaining things I happen to be missing be available in the Emelita route (such as I guess, Athena Gem).

Flying Dagger
2012-04-11, 20:57
I also preferred Kosame to Komomo. While both had good routes, Kosame has the better romance.

Personally, I tend to put Sharty in the same sort of camp that Serawi is in: Good on the first play through, but unable to really compete anymore at a high level. I don't even use the Eushully maids and she's still outclassed.

As for Rags, I think you have to level her quite a bit to get that event. More than you would in a normal level of play. Or maybe I was just underleveled on everyone not named Wil or Yuela for my first playthroughs.

Kosame also has those damn adorable moments :D.
Sharty sort of "picks up" later on because of bloodsuck.

Am I the only one that in his third playtrough on normal just went "Screw it" and only used Wil? It just gets so damn easy to solo nearly everything xD

That is why I resetted character levels and items. By the end of NG+ my guys can destroy even bosses in 1 hit... so obviously nothing in NG++ would pose any challenge.

Another question: is there an actual Marsterria location you can enter? Or are all the remaining things I happen to be missing be available in the Emelita route (such as I guess, Athena Gem).

negative

Arha
2012-04-11, 21:03
Yeah, Kosame being quite cute and having a properly developed romance is what made me like her and her route more than Komomo's. Komomo probably had the better story if you separate the romance and other parts of the plot, but that's not really something you should do in a visual novel.

My Sharty is in her low fifties so she has Bloodsuck 3, it's just that she's rather squishy, her damage isn't that great and there's not much good gear for her.

Having Wil be really overleveled isn't much of a surprise, really. He has access to Double Action, a good movement range, high survivability and decent attack and speed. I've found his usefulness to be waning slightly but he's still probably my strongest unit after Yuela at the moment. While I can lament his lack of access to Prevail or any other real abilities apart from his second armor set, I must acknowledge that with them he'd probably be completely overpowered.

FR34X
2012-04-12, 13:46
for wils adventurer set you kill orcs in the falls right? Because I have like 12 storm scythes from them already my 4th trip using fuls tears and fuls mil. Am I missing something?

FR34X
2012-04-12, 13:53
Rofl as soon as I posted this it dropped just super bad luck I guess

amoirsp
2012-04-12, 15:38
As I'm finishing up my final run or two, I'm just wondering: are there any incentives to decline the Shipwreck Beach missions or decline writing letters to Roka? Since they're quests with rewards and bonuses I generally don't decline but if an alternative route spawns then I wouldn't mind saying no.

Flying Dagger
2012-04-12, 15:52
you miss out on loot and reward and thats about it.
I guess Roka has a measurement scene later on.

FR34X
2012-04-12, 18:58
Anyone know how long it takes for the Liquid collecting quest (no 152) it just says time passes and I have already blown past like 200 days.

Xacual
2012-04-12, 19:11
Which one is that? If it's one of the invest tons of money for stone/liquid/crystal producing furniture for the yard then it should just be 5 dungeon trips. Something like that.

DaBigD
2012-04-14, 03:37
Are there any repercussions for postponing the plaza quests that come in Ch3 of NG+ to a later chapter? The first two I managed to do, through elemental weaknesses and such, but the giant in Yuidora Woodland has no weakness, hits like a truck and is able to one-shot all my characters :D Granted I only have 6 characters in 50+ range and the monster is 90, but I'm worried other quests might become unavailable due to them.

Dhomochevsky
2012-04-14, 03:55
I think the quest will stay quite some time.
But it is blocking other quests in the same place, so you will have to do it soon. It may be blocking one right now, you can check by saving, accepting the quest and see what's replacing it.

Wigwams
2012-04-14, 08:14
are stats capped at 100? :confused:

Dist
2012-04-14, 23:47
Where is the game installed? I feel stupid but I can't find it anymore >.<. I haven't played in couple weeks, so it's not in the most recent programs, and because the game name is in Japanese, I can't find it using search.

Wigwams
2012-04-14, 23:58
try using this on search.
神採りアルケミーマイスター

i changed my directory, so i dont know the default.

FR34X
2012-04-15, 02:45
are stats capped at 100? :confused:

The only thing capped at 100 is the FS and SP, my will is 99 (198 with fountain of youth) and lots of his stats are far over 100

Xacual
2012-04-15, 06:04
The only thing capped at 100 is the FS and SP, my will is 99 (198 with fountain of youth) and lots of his stats are far over 100

That's not true, you can go above 100 stats with equipment, etc, but the max you can reach by leveling up or stat stones is 100. HP Cap is 500.

bones
2012-04-15, 08:06
What is this fountain of youth and where do you get it from?

Arha
2012-04-15, 10:01
Advent Bay. When you have the superawesomespecial accessory for a character and the fountain of youth, you can use the fountain to reset one of your characters to level one and retain stats and whatnot.

FR34X
2012-04-15, 11:35
Quick question, what map contains the steel cards for the maids? The only one I have found so far is the golden steel.

Xacual
2012-04-15, 14:45
Quick question, what map contains the steel cards for the maids? The only one I have found so far is the golden steel.

http://games.seiha.org/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=102

One of the posts there has a list of where all those are.

FR34X
2012-04-17, 01:37
Sweet thanks, does emelita have a glitch with her little devil robe it wont come up with the rest and its fully upgraded.

lXDarksunXl
2012-04-17, 20:45
So, does anyone know what this scene is and how to get it? I know how to get the rest of the scenes I'm missing, but this one puzzles me. I plan to finish the scene collecting in my next play through (4th time), so I'll need to know what exactly it is. Lol, the censorship I had to pull for the image is ridiculous.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ph8FMd26eMI/T44b1qPTTGI/AAAAAAAAACg/K1ZZ255vjbc/s800/CG000031.jpg

etalocohc84
2012-04-17, 22:14
To get that scene, I think you need to switch all 3 main girls to their gothic armors (you might need to level it up).

FR34X
2012-04-18, 02:39
To get that scene, I think you need to switch all 3 main girls to their gothic armors (you might need to level it up).

I just got this I equipped all of them in their Gothic armors (all of the armors were 100% upgraded) and I was on my 3rd play through.

lXDarksunXl
2012-04-18, 05:26
Thanks, That scene has been driving me nuts. I'm only missing Serawi's gothic armor. Geez there needs to be an easier way to get devil beads. I never seem to have enough, with how many items need devil beads.

EternityPala
2012-04-18, 06:08
Thanks, That scene has been driving me nuts. I'm only missing Serawi's gothic armor. Geez there needs to be an easier way to get devil beads. I never seem to have enough, with how many items need devil beads.

Kill Asmodeus with Ful's tears + Mil.

Xacual
2012-04-18, 06:30
Thanks, That scene has been driving me nuts. I'm only missing Serawi's gothic armor. Geez there needs to be an easier way to get devil beads. I never seem to have enough, with how many items need devil beads.

Kill Asmodeus with Ful's tears + Mil.

Yep, actually as long as you kill her in the first fight against her, you should only be missing 2 or so devil beads. I think you need 9 total and you can get 6 on your second playthrough, not counting the 1 you can get per playthrough from deadbeat dungeon.

karburator
2012-04-18, 10:56
How do I trigger cloths-related H-scenes?
I made some for Serawi but nothing happend (of course I was on Serawi route)

How can I do the gauntlet battles in the arena?
It never opens up.

Arha
2012-04-18, 11:02
You have to enhance the armor about halfway or so before you can get those scenes. The Gauntlet events open up in Chapter 8 or 9 and after you've cleared a certain amount of the previous things.

XxSleepyxX
2012-04-18, 11:20
So the game freezes fter it shows the eushally logo. It just becomes a black screen. Anyone know how to fix this? I don't get a error pop-up or anything.

karburator
2012-04-18, 11:31
You have to enhance the armor about halfway or so before you can get those scenes. The Gauntlet events open up in Chapter 8 or 9 and after you've cleared a certain amount of the previous things.

There must be some other requirement because in my third playthrough I couldn't,
even in chapter 9 after finishing all of the other battles the gauntlet didn't open up.

Flying Dagger
2012-04-18, 12:02
So the game freezes fter it shows the eushally logo. It just becomes a black screen. Anyone know how to fix this? I don't get a error pop-up or anything.

Codec problem with the intro movie.

Its not exactly 1/2 way iirc. The scenes are attached to a particular square in the grid I think. Worst case just make sure they are all fully enchanted (and wear them ofc).
Gauntlet may require you to clear a certain amount of arena battles.

Krehan
2012-04-18, 13:46
I just cant seem to activate serawis dark tunic scene, Im on serawi route ofc, but I dont see the chat of her saying that her armor growed stronger (I enchanted halfway already). Im missing something? im on chapter 5

Arha
2012-04-18, 17:22
Then enhance it even more. I don't know the exact point where the go exploring scene comes up.

Xacual
2012-04-18, 19:23
It's chapter 6, the dark outfits require chaotic warground don't they?

Krehan
2012-04-18, 22:00
Thanks for the replys, yea. I got the scene once i fully upgraded the costume


Another question, where can i get Ful's Tears? I read that its somewhere in yudora minefield, but cant find it.

Arha
2012-04-18, 22:12
Some L70ish map. There are a bunch of amazons in it.

karburator
2012-04-20, 08:33
Where can I get Atropos Gems?

amoirsp
2012-04-20, 12:56
Alright, after finishing Emelita's route I decided why not, go for 100% on items.

So I realized most of my remaining missing items were Emelita and Seralwi unique items that require level ups similar to Yuela's weapons. Then I realized 4 of the Eushully items were from mutate. Then I realized some items were rare drops like Dragon Eye while the accessories that I was missing were basically unique accessories that were character specific.

Thus, at least knowing where those, along with Ultimate Artifacts, I can at least figure out where to hunt for those.

The question is: What are these items in particular?

111 - ??? [It's after Dark Dragon Staff]
151 - ??? [It's after Edel Swordbow]
152 - ??? [It's before Sister's love]

I'm also missing #026 on key item. :< I don't get it, I run 3 playthroughs making sure every quest is cleared.

The rest I have a good idea of how to go for, but these 3 I'm not sure if it's a staff, an angel staff, a devil staff, or what, and for the bows I don't know if it's restricted to Yuichiri or not.

My wild guess is that it's a rare monster drop, not sure which one though. It doesn't appear to be through level up of weapons.

On a random note I guess I can't be Meister on Emelita's route if I finished everything right to the final boss. Doh.

karburator
2012-04-20, 15:59
#026 on key item is Starfall Ore [Needed to repair Yuela's sword]
Weird that you don't have it..

111 - Zilterry Staff, Emelita only.
151 - Ryugna Swordbow.
152 - Sylph Parfaite, Serawi only.

Every item name and number here (Some recipes and useful stuff included):
http://eushully.wikia.com/wiki/God_Catching_Alchemy_Meister:Weapons

amoirsp
2012-04-20, 17:26
Thanks for the info. I gather 111 and 152 are possible to procure after maxing out the Retel and the Bell Staff.

How do I get the Ryugna Swordbow? No idea if it's a drop or if it's a synthesized item (from Edel Swordbow maybe?).

I checked my Yuela game save, you're right, Starfall Ore shows up there pretty clearly. Perhaps I screwed up my NG+ save transfers so it got lost in there somehow.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, how DOES one get the remaining 2/4 CG from the encounter with Ragsmuena? It's easy to get the ones with the blue shining eyes but there's two encounter Rags CG that has normal eyes. How does one get those?

Arha
2012-04-21, 10:30
So, I decided to level up some of my lower level units and also to upgrade their weapons and stuff. The Deadbeatking seemed like a good place to do so. Trouble is, while eveyone is certainly getting levels their weapons aren't ranking up. Or rather, their weapon skill does but the weapon itself does not. Does this apply to all the Deadbeat units?

DaBigD
2012-04-21, 11:33
Anyone has a favorite place to kill Greyhounds? 100 kills will take awhile. Need a place where they respawn fast.

Xacual
2012-04-21, 15:46
Anyone has a favorite place to kill Greyhounds? 100 kills will take awhile. Need a place where they respawn fast.

I did it at the church free map, there's a few on the map to start with and a portal pops them out.

Arha
2012-04-21, 17:50
I did the south shore of the lake. There are three within attack range right next to the portal and I figured I could just withdraw and come back and kill them with a faster kill rate than waiting for portals.

Hikari-san
2012-04-22, 11:08
guyz, can you help me...??? i got stuck
still in Ch 1, all my quest is completed. but theres still a mission "Get Promoted to the next rank" not completed, i dont know how to upgrade store to lvl 2, or upgrade workshop to lvl 2

here my information in my game now,
main char lvl 7, crayl and his sister just left go back to their home after walking around the town.
i dont have bronze key, how to get it?

Arha
2012-04-22, 12:06
You can't get that key for awhile. To upgrade your shop, go into your shop and hit the remodel button. You should see the ability to expand all the areas show up.

Aaand great, it turns out I can't get a Rocket Punch and a handful of other things unless I start up a new game. The game gave me a new Sunora (why did I even sell this stuff? It's not like I've ever been short on money) but I won't be able to finish the last couple special weapons in this file. Tch. Though I already have to play all the way through another game if I want to make the Kitchen Knife since it's the last boss of this route that drops Disna.

XxSleepyxX
2012-04-22, 20:16
@Flying Lol thanks a lot. Turns it was my splitter that was messing with the intro movie...

Anyone know what chapter is the mission for hannah?

Xacual
2012-04-22, 20:30
@Flying Lol thanks a lot. Turns it was my splitter that was messing with the intro movie...

Anyone know what chapter is the mission for hannah?

Which mission? Her only mission in a new game is in chapter 1 or 2(I forget which) to take the statue to the church. In NG+, her escort stuff appear in chapters 3 and 7 after Melodiana and Elizasleyn join. Doing both escorts gives you her as a character.

XxSleepyxX
2012-04-22, 22:10
@ xacual Ah i see thanks a lot. I'm just on my first no wonder i didn't see the quest. Hey xac since it seems you've played a lot do you recommend a good item to make and sell? I'm running out of mats to make stuff and i'm also low on money...

Xacual
2012-04-22, 22:35
@ xacual Ah i see thanks a lot. I'm just on my first no wonder i didn't see the quest. Hey xac since it seems you've played a lot do you recommend a good item to make and sell? I'm running out of mats to make stuff and i'm also low on money...

There's quite a few things, though a lot depend on where you are in the game. Barrel Piles, The Mess, Naqua Ninja Blades are all considered good. Personally I just spent a long time replaying missions for harvesting and mining purposes. You really shouldn't have any problems making money in your first playthrough. If you aren't that far in the game yet, Staff of Light and some of the lower level bows are also pretty good. Especially since they can morph into something that sells for a lot more.

XxSleepyxX
2012-04-22, 23:05
I'm currently in chapter five. Still can't make furniture board yet though. I'll try making staffs than and hopeful they morph

Arha
2012-04-23, 06:10
I made a lot of angel bows since I always seemed to have a ton of halos and angel feathers.

Truepower
2012-04-23, 08:04
I have all weapon recipes unlocked and finished all 90+ NG dungeons, there are no unknown monster drops left, but still lack 1-1 elemental weapon on the mascot characters. How do I get these?
Oh, and I'm also interested in the whereabouts of the last 2 locked Ragsmuena cg.

Xacual
2012-04-23, 11:23
If you mean you're missing an elemental weapon for the 4 mascot angels, it's a morph from the elemental weapons they already have. I just saved and reloaded a bunch of times making one over and over until i got the morph.

bones
2012-04-25, 11:04
I've been trying to conquer Advent Bay and failing. Can anyone give me some tips on how to do it?

Xacual
2012-04-25, 17:01
I've been trying to conquer Advent Bay and failing. Can anyone give me some tips on how to do it?

Have lots of characters with Prevail and don't use ranged units since all the mobs have some kind of anti range skill, well except for the slimes. It's pretty much just brute force, you have lots of turns but if you move quickly you should be able to capture the 4 close rally points within 2-3 turns. After that the map is pretty easy.

Arha
2012-04-25, 21:33
Don't bother with your caster units at all. At least Seraphim can be targeted by normal ranged attacks if you're using, say, bowling ball on Mylen. The Ascended Ones or whatever they're called are nearly harmless so using your caster or ranged units to deal with them is more or less pointless.

Dhomochevsky
2012-04-26, 07:55
You can always "cheat" your way through with portal closing stones...

karburator
2012-04-26, 08:26
Someone mind telling me how do get the scenes i'm missing ?
I tried to trigger the scene that requires the 3 Gothic armor but despite being fully enhanced nothing happened.. (Of course I did equip it on them)
I'm on Emelita route chapter 8.

I didn't do the Gauntlet battle so I guess that's the reason I don't have Jane's scene.
The Gauntlet didn't open up even after I finished all the other battles..

Is there a solo scene for Gothic armor?
Cause I have Emelita's fully enhanced but no scene triggered.

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/5640/49760016.png
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9378/74925485.png
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/821/31146269.png
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9954/63920840.png

(Why are there 2 pictures of Yuela?)

Truepower
2012-04-26, 11:35
Gothic scene is triggered from city view. Have all 3 clothes decently upgraded and equipped. No solo scene.
Arena Gauntlets are open from chapter 9. Some characters can't enter the gauntlet (namely the giants and NG+ chars) and those who can are required a minimum specific lvl.
What I gathered from your pictures is that you haven't finished Melodiana's and Sharty's quests. The second Yuela picture is about the other 3 clothing you get from NG+. You have to be on that specific heroine's route and have it decently enhanced to watch it like all her other clothing scenes.
Oh and you haven't done the extra stories yet.

Hikari-san
2012-04-26, 12:56
guys, i got confused...
the problem is with the setting in my game...
my friend playing this game when i look it in battle, there even more effect (for example effect damage)
but to me, it is not like that...not effect damage in my battle...
is there a setting that should i set? or is it the matter about the patch?
because before you start a new game there is choice for patch 2 "extra dungeon" ON. i forgot to turned ON or not the extra dungeons patch 2.

ShiroiRyu
2012-04-26, 17:12
Hm ...
I'm level 60 with Wil but i can't going fighting Asmodeus.
I have the quest but no event. :s
I'm in chapter 3 if that can help.

Dist
2012-04-26, 18:15
guys, i got confused...
the problem is with the setting in my game...
my friend playing this game when i look it in battle, there even more effect (for example effect damage)
but to me, it is not like that...not effect damage in my battle...
is there a setting that should i set? or is it the matter about the patch?
because before you start a new game there is choice for patch 2 "extra dungeon" ON. i forgot to turned ON or not the extra dungeons patch 2.

Did you think about looking at Options? Go to Basic and look what's under Animations .. Turn anything ON if they're OFF. Also the extra dungeon is irrelevant, I'm pretty sure it only works if you're on New Game+.

Xacual
2012-04-26, 18:47
Hm ...
I'm level 60 with Wil but i can't going fighting Asmodeus.
I have the quest but no event. :s
I'm in chapter 3 if that can help.

There's more to the requirements than just being level 60, it says recruit powerful allies or something along those lines. Basically you have to recruit everybody, which takes until chapter 8.

Wigwams
2012-04-26, 18:58
so i just finished all the mine levels, anyone can recommend where i should go next? i tried advent bay and valkyrie falls. getting completely owned...
my party is lvl 83ish. with wil at 90.

Sobonok
2012-04-26, 19:07
Giving this visual novel a shot. Currently in the 3rd chapter with everyone around level 15-17. Does Wil get any stronger then how he currently is? I just see it hard to level him with him primarily tuned to tanking, then doing damage and getting the kills.

Xacual
2012-04-26, 19:25
so i just finished all the mine levels, anyone can recommend where i should go next? i tried advent bay and valkyrie falls. getting completely owned...
my party is lvl 83ish. with wil at 90.

Valkyrie Falls is easy, you just have to range down everything. On your first turn you should move two units with 5 range nukes over to the right and take out the two archers there, then move to close the orc portals next with some range units.

The easiest 90+ Append Dungeon is Phema Sluicegate.

Arha
2012-04-26, 19:27
Wil gets good when he gets double action. Apart from Yuela you won't really find any better characters before a new game plus. He has good movement range, decent offense, lots of health and can go just about anywhere.

Sobonok
2012-04-26, 19:29
I see, I tried playing the Extra Stories ahead of time to see them around level 60. It definitely does seem that Wil with Double Action is a great thing. I agree that he's good as he is now though. Just that it's hard to level him when he barely scratches tough targets for a good portion of XP.

Thank you for the advice.

Wigwams
2012-04-26, 20:44
Valkyrie Falls is easy, you just have to range down everything. On your first turn you should move two units with 5 range nukes over to the right and take out the two archers there, then move to close the orc portals next with some range units.

The easiest 90+ Append Dungeon is Phema Sluicegate.

doing sluicegate now, much easier. :D

btw, is it just me, or ful's mil/tear dont work here? or is the drop rate just too low that even with those items only 1 drops?

Xacual
2012-04-26, 20:49
doing sluicegate now, much easier. :D

btw, is it just me, or ful's mil/tear dont work here? or is the drop rate just too low that even with those items only 1 drops?

It's because none of the 90+ dungeon monsters really drop anything until your second visit. I mean the only thing you'll really want from most of them is the artifact drops and those are limited to second+ visit after you've beaten the map. Well some of the monsters drop good elemental weapons and you can get those on first visit.

Wigwams
2012-04-26, 20:56
It's because none of the 90+ dungeon monsters really drop anything until your second visit. I mean the only thing you'll really want from most of them is the artifact drops and those are limited to second+ visit after you've beaten the map. Well some of the monsters drop good elemental weapons and you can get those on first visit.

ohhhh... i see... that's sad. i usually try my best to complete everything so i only run the maps once... :upset:

Xacual
2012-04-26, 20:59
ohhhh... i see... that's sad. i usually try my best to complete everything so i only run the maps once... :upset:

If you can beat Phema Mountains within 7 turns your first visit for the bonus objective, I bow down to your power. I don't think it's even possible without the deployment gate in the top of the map.

Also there's a chest added to each of the 5 dungeons after you beat them. For Advent Bay the chest has Lily's artifact.

Wigwams
2012-04-26, 23:02
the weapons you can get are pretty strong here, no lvl requirement too. :D

anyone can tell me what hidden area i am missing?
http://s13.postimage.org/odwmog011/CG000000.png

Xacual
2012-04-26, 23:12
the weapons you can get are pretty strong here, no lvl requirement too. :D

anyone can tell me what hidden area i am missing?
http://s13.postimage.org/odwmog011/CG000000.png

In Sluicegate? It's probably the area that requires teleport + search to see.

Wigwams
2012-04-26, 23:15
In Sluicegate? It's probably the area that requires teleport + search to see.

yeah in that map. roughly in what area is it?

Hikari-san
2012-04-26, 23:30
guys, i got confused...
the problem is with the setting in my game...
my friend playing this game when i look it in battle, there even more effect (for example effect damage)
but to me, it is not like that...not effect damage in my battle...
is there a setting that should i set? or is it the matter about the patch?
because before you start a new game there is choice for patch 2 "extra dungeon" ON. i forgot to turned ON or not the extra dungeons patch 2.

Did you think about looking at Options? Go to Basic and look what's under Animations .. Turn anything ON if they're OFF. Also the extra dungeon is irrelevant, I'm pretty sure it only works if you're on New Game+.
already "ON" from the start...all is ON in the basic menu
if the extra dungeon is irrelevant, then perhaps its something to do with the Flash? or DirectX or Codec?
Flash and DirectX i'm pretty sure I had installed them, if codec I had installed K-lite the latest for watching 10 bit video, but not sure with the settings.

Sobonok
2012-04-26, 23:33
What exactly is the battle screen like? Does it just show two portraits dealing damage to each other? A picture of how it looks could give me a more clear idea.

Hikari-san
2012-04-27, 00:06
guys, i got confused...
the problem is with the setting in my game...
my friend playing this game when i look it in battle, there even more effect (for example effect damage)
but to me, it is not like that...not effect damage in my battle...
is there a setting that should i set? or is it the matter about the patch?
because before you start a new game there is choice for patch 2 "extra dungeon" ON. i forgot to turned ON or not the extra dungeons patch 2.

What exactly is the battle screen like? Does it just show two portraits dealing damage to each other? A picture of how it looks could give me a more clear idea.

hm for example, wil using battle hammer to monster...
in my friend, there is effect hammer show up to damage monster and shaking
but in my case, there is no effect hammer show up, just tell us how much damage and sometime there is shaking as well.

here the image, the image one is in my case, the second my friend's

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2149/cg000172.png
By gumilank (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/gumilank) at 2012-04-26

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6812/cg000001.png
By gumilank (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/gumilank) at 2012-04-26

Om Nerabdator
2012-04-27, 00:27
I really enjoyed this game but gathering materials were a pain but thank god for that trainer patch ^^ 900 of each item lol

The one thing that was kind of dissappointing was it didnt say what happened to yuellas sister
She ran away from yuidora cause she was a suspect then nothing.......

karburator
2012-04-27, 03:45
Gothic scene is triggered from city view. Have all 3 clothes decently upgraded and equipped. No solo scene.
Arena Gauntlets are open from chapter 9. Some characters can't enter the gauntlet (namely the giants and NG+ chars) and those who can are required a minimum specific lvl.
What I gathered from your pictures is that you haven't finished Melodiana's and Sharty's quests. The second Yuela picture is about the other 3 clothing you get from NG+. You have to be on that specific heroine's route and have it decently enhanced to watch it like all her other clothing scenes.
Oh and you haven't done the extra stories yet.

I didn't do the hot springs thing because its completely boring.
I only did the other one to get Lily.

How am I supposed to finish Melodiana's and Sharty's quests?
Melodiana and Elizasleyn are both level 80..
Sharty level 12 O.o

Got the Gothic scene :]

Wigwams
2012-04-27, 05:21
is 2nd run the only condition for the artifact drops? or do i need some other stuffs like wil's 500 kill quest?

i've been farming for awhile now, nothing seems to drop.

P.S. you can just use anyone to kill right? not required the one who needs the item...?

Truepower
2012-04-27, 06:15
You get a melodiana/elizasleiyn scene for doing the extras, not mentioning leguna and his golem as playables. You have to level up Sharty to at least 25 to get her remaining quests and scenes.

Xacual
2012-04-27, 07:06
is 2nd run the only condition for the artifact drops? or do i need some other stuffs like wil's 500 kill quest?

i've been farming for awhile now, nothing seems to drop.

P.S. you can just use anyone to kill right? not required the one who needs the item...?

The artifacts have a low drop rate, just keep killing stuff with the ful mil/tear and you'll get them eventually.

karburator
2012-04-27, 09:17
You get a melodiana/elizasleiyn scene for doing the extras, not mentioning leguna and his golem as playables. You have to level up Sharty to at least 25 to get her remaining quests and scenes.

Do I get the scene from the extras or does it just enable it for my next playthrough?

On Sharty level 25 I got a dark armor for Serawi,
but I didn't get the scene even at level 50..
I already have a scene with Sharty, are you sure there is another one?

Also, even if I get those 2 scenes i'm still missing one..

Truepower
2012-04-27, 10:33
You get it the moment you finish the extras.
Sharty has 3 scenes, including a joint scene w/ Melodiana and Kohakuren. You get a second scene if you finish her questline and the third if you do all the previously mentioned party members. However, if you are already in chapter 9, the trigger for Sharty's quests won't activate no matter how much you level her. Reload or start a NG+

karburator
2012-04-27, 10:55
Alright i'll do it.
Thank you.

Hikari-san
2012-04-27, 11:44
guys, i got confused...
the problem is with the setting in my game...
my friend playing this game when i look it in battle, there even more effect (for example effect damage)
but to me, it is not like that...not effect damage in my battle...
is there a setting that should i set? or is it the matter about the patch?
because before you start a new game there is choice for patch 2 "extra dungeon" ON. i forgot to turned ON or not the extra dungeons patch 2.

anybody can solved my problem?
here the image, the image one is in my case, the second my friend's

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/2149/cg000172.png
By gumilank (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/gumilank) at 2012-04-26

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6812/cg000001.png
By gumilank (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/gumilank) at 2012-04-26

Sobonok
2012-04-27, 15:22
I'll be looking into your case Hikari-san. I need to first go into Kamidori and play a bit on battles. To see if my effects are like yours, or your friends. I'll post back when I have news.

Chuankai
2012-04-27, 16:00
Anyone mind telling me how to unlock/get a few items...
Pelusoa's blade
Yuela's ulti. weapon,kitchen knife...(Yes I've gotten the recipe,the one where Wil needed to kill 500 monsters to get.)

Arha
2012-04-27, 16:07
Kitchen Knife is unlocked when you've gotten Crescent moon maxed out, which is unlocked after Crescent Moon is maxed out, which is unlocked after Eastern Moon is maxed out.

Pelusoa's Blade comes from the mines somewhere, I think. I don't remember which map, but generally anything you need to craft something comes from the mines. There's even a spare Sunora in there in case you sold the first one because you're dumb like me.

Chuankai
2012-04-27, 16:13
Kitchen Knife is unlocked when you've gotten Crescent moon maxed out, which is unlocked after Crescent Moon is maxed out, which is unlocked after Eastern Moon is maxed out.

Pelusoa's Blade comes from the mines somewhere, I think. I don't remember which map, but generally anything you need to craft something comes from the mines. There's even a spare Sunora in there in case you sold the first one because you're dumb like me.

So... I've got to get Cutting moon maxed out?
Kinda lucky I actually used it for the time to max it out...
Now to just find for Pelusoa's Blade to make Mylen's ulti...

Xacual
2012-04-27, 16:24
So... I've got to get Cutting moon maxed out?
Kinda lucky I actually used it for the time to max it out...
Now to just find for Pelusoa's Blade to make Mylen's ulti...

You probably won't want to, Pelusoa's Blade is extremely good, Magic Resist 3 if I'm remembering right and Omni damage.

Chuankai
2012-04-27, 16:43
You probably won't want to, Pelusoa's Blade is extremely good, Magic Resist 3 if I'm remembering right and Omni damage.

Well IDK,I might still make it though... I don't use Yuela as my main attacker mainly because her def is a little... low >_>

Well in the worst case I can get another one just by playing a new game,I guess...

karburator
2012-04-27, 17:05
To be exact you get Pelusoa's Blade in the map where you fight Asmodeus for the last time.
It's in the room where she is on the left side, there's something good on the right side as well as far as I remember.

Chuankai
2012-04-28, 18:47
Thanks guys,got the blade and also the map where the blade is in gives a crystal called Silver crystal,a weapon for Suina.

Do anyone know of some good training place for Suina or any other range(Weak in melee) users? For their weapon mastery,that is...
I found a map for melee characters to get their weapon mastery up very fast but can't really find any map for ranged users >_>

Arha
2012-04-28, 19:44
The deadbeat god is a pretty decent place. The only attack it launches is an aoe every couple rounds.

Chuankai
2012-04-28, 20:28
The deadbeat god is a pretty decent place. The only attack it launches is an aoe every couple rounds.

Well it gives a lot of EXP I know,but I don't think it gives that much for weapon mastery,which I actually need lots more to get my Suina to rank M for her ulti. weapon >_>
Kind of hard to actually try and use her in real battle against level 80/90+,she has too low of a def. to actually win some...

I guess I'll have to find some map that spawns alot of monsters and wont hit alot on low def. characters...

Xacual
2012-04-28, 20:37
Well it gives a lot of EXP I know,but I don't think it gives that much for weapon mastery,which I actually need lots more to get my Suina to rank M for her ulti. weapon >_>
Kind of hard to actually try and use her in real battle against level 80/90+,she has too low of a def. to actually win some...

I guess I'll have to find some map that spawns alot of monsters and wont hit alot on low def. characters...

Suina has the worst stat gains all around. Most people agree that she stops being useful around level 35-40 of your first playthrough, and is completely worthless in NG+.

Chuankai
2012-04-28, 20:43
Suina has the worst stat gains all around. Most people agree that she stops being useful around level 35-40 of your first playthrough, and is completely worthless in NG+.

I'll agree with that alright,but is there any other maps? For example,like,for Crayl or Crayanne?
I'm really trying to get Crayanne up and get her ulti. weap equipped if possible since she has double action and some heal to top it off...
A pity she's a full earth-user,though.

Also...
Did anyone finish Isolated Path(Yuidora mine level 75 map req. Suina,Crayl,Uya and Aht to enter)?
I'm planning on getting that done,only for the prizes,if there's any that is.

Xacual
2012-04-28, 20:58
I'll agree with that alright,but is there any other maps? For example,like,for Crayl or Crayanne?
I'm really trying to get Crayanne up and get her ulti. weap equipped if possible since she has double action and some heal to top it off...
A pity she's a full earth-user,though.

Also...
Did anyone finish Isolated Path(Yuidora mine level 75 map req. Suina,Crayl,Uya and Aht to enter)?
I'm planning on getting that done,only for the prizes,if there's any that is.

That's the second of a series of maps that requires certain characters to fight stuff almost always that they are weak against. First one was Wil and the heroines. For that one just have Suina use whatever that orb is that gives particle shock, uya should have an earth fang to use as well. Crayl is kind of hard since the monsters have projectile defense, use a good bow and if you can a melee bow, like edel swordbow or something. You should be able to attack normally at 1 range and do decent damage but you'll want to be able to counter attack when it attacks you in melee next turn. For Aht I just used flame weapons, it was surprisingly easy.

The worst of those levels for me was the one with Sharty and Paraskevas. The things Sharty has to fight are holy nuking angels with undress 2 or 3. Paraskevas has to fight earth dragons which yeah isn't fun.

Chuankai
2012-04-28, 21:09
That's the second of a series of maps that requires certain characters to fight stuff almost always that they are weak against. First one was Wil and the heroines. For that one just have Suina use whatever that orb is that gives particle shock, uya should have an earth fang to use as well. Crayl is kind of hard since the monsters have projectile defense, use a good bow and if you can a melee bow, like edel swordbow or something. You should be able to attack normally at 1 range and do decent damage but you'll want to be able to counter attack when it attacks you in melee next turn. For Aht I just used flame weapons, it was surprisingly easy.

The worst of those levels for me was the one with Sharty and Paraskevas. The things Sharty has to fight are holy nuking angels with undress 2 or 3. Paraskevas has to fight earth dragons which yeah isn't fun.

What,really?
Here I was thinking the first map was easy...
Only the fight for Wil was hard,at pretty "low" levels,somewhere like 70.
Others was pretty easy if you had the special clothes' skill...
Emelita could shoot at 5 range with her Sonic Scream skill which was pratically giving her full hp at the end,since no one even hit her.

Well,I guess I'll probably do the series of dungeons at my 4th play,since I don't have the swordbow.

Going to finish all my gauntlet stuff now before I start a new game and get the scenes back.
(I messed with the save files and before I knew it the game overwritten something... That turned my save files into nameless saves and the scene,replays and so on completely went blank >_> Never mess with save files ._.)

Xacual
2012-04-28, 21:13
What,really?
Here I was thinking the first map was easy...
Only the fight for Wil was hard,at pretty "low" levels,somewhere like 70.
Others was pretty easy if you had the special clothes' skill...
Emelita could shoot at 5 range with her Sonic Scream skill which was pratically giving her full hp at the end,since no one even hit her.

Well,I guess I'll probably do the series of dungeons at my 4th play,since I don't have the swordbow.


You don't have a morphbow either? That's a melee bow, and yes I know the heroine + Wil one is easy, I meant the ones after that.

Chuankai
2012-04-28, 21:16
You don't have a morphbow either? That's a melee bow, and yes I know the heroine + Wil one is easy, I meant the ones after that.

Nope,how do you even get them in the first place?
Just a note,I didn't do Servalwi's route yet.
Yes,even after 3 games...

Xacual
2012-04-28, 21:43
It's morphed from just about any of the low level bows. Did you never make them? It's a decently high morph chance.

Wigwams
2012-04-28, 23:59
suina has her ice blades which is for melee. you would need to mana pots alot, but she can easy melee farm using that skill.

also for the sharty/parsakevas dungeon. for me only parsakevas was hard, i had to reload spam praying for procs like intimidate/block/pierce and other shiz to happen.

for sharty i just gave her the holy resist necklace and its mutated version. that made the fight very easy, sharty has rolling darkness which is good vs her holy foe.

Chuankai
2012-04-29, 01:06
suina has her ice blades which is for melee. you would need to mana pots alot, but she can easy melee farm using that skill.

also for the sharty/parsakevas dungeon. for me only parsakevas was hard, i had to reload spam praying for procs like intimidate/block/pierce and other shiz to happen.

for sharty i just gave her the holy resist necklace and its mutated version. that made the fight very easy, sharty has rolling darkness which is good vs her holy foe.

A pity with her con the map I normally "train" at for weapon mastery or weap. levels would kill her.
Imagine somewhere along 10 -20 gobles hitting her with triple slash.
... Ohmygod >_>
EDIT :
Oh yes and,if you are reloading and trying to get stuff like block/pierce and stuff to happen,take note that it probably not going to happen if you are trying that against a monster over and over again.
I've noticed that even after you reload the 100th time the specials are the same,for example criting on 3rd hit or anything.
-
Well if you are finding a place to get weapon mastery up,or kills up(Wil,500kills quest),or just finding a place to level weapon fast...(Although most people here probably don't need it)
Try Demonic Banquet at Yuidora mine,just wait at the base and skip like 2-3 turns.
After that just skip turns and kill when they attack.
Pretty lot of monsters in 1 turn,so be sure they can tank at least 5.
You'll get kills pretty fast and same thing with weapon mastery,or weapon levels,since theres so many monsters afterall.
Saves time waiting at a portal for something to popup or walk around fighting monsters.
They can't charm or do anything so that's a good point but they have Shield 3.

Wigwams
2012-04-29, 01:38
do it in "untoachable cage" like this:
http://s14.postimage.org/kv4lleus1/CG000000.png
1) wil with his aura and cover
2) aht with cover
3) kohakuren with aura and suina guardian
4) suina with ice + soul shield, and depth charge + blade skill
it should work like a charm.

also you need to add skip turn in the reload process to get a different battle outcome (though i noticed changing equipment does the trick too).

Chuankai
2012-04-29, 01:59
do it in "untoachable cage" like this:
http://s14.postimage.org/4k4hp3ia5/CG000000.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/4k4hp3ia5/)
1) wil with his aura and cover
2) aht with cover
3) kohakuren with aura and suina guardian
4) suina with ice + soul shield, and depth charge + blade skill
it should work like a charm.

also you need to add skip turn in the reload process to get a different battle outcome (though i noticed changing equipment does the trick too).

Thanks,working great now
Also...
Do anyone here knows how to get Gladiator ring?
Needing for Kitchen knife... Trying to get it before I finish my storyline and go straight for another game,this time to get their stats up...

Oh and,the code was wrong...
They provided a code for posting the picture on forums,at that website
Scroll down and click "Show codes"

Truepower
2012-04-29, 03:16
If I remember correctly, it's in one of the Yuela's route's maps, Blitz Moors in Kania Wastelands being the prime candidate.

Arha
2012-04-29, 08:20
I found the Paraskevas and Sharty areas easy. Paraskevas was hitting rather hard with his range attacks and a Fairy Hammer while Roiling Darkness and Bloodsuck made the angels fairly easy. The one that was a real pain for me on that map was Melodiana. She was my highest level character there apart from Wil at the time but she still got her ass kicked. I think I had to give her the reflect I item to win.

Then again, by the time I did these maps I generally had pretty awesome weapons from doing dungeons.

Personally, I'd recommend that. I gave Crayl a melee bow and loaded Suina up with earth resist items and it was a pretty easy map.

Are you Gladiator Ring comes from Yuela's route? I just did her route and didn't get one.

Edit: Ah, so it is in that Blitz Moors map. Good thing I hadn't saved over any files from before setting out for the final area.

Wigwams
2012-04-29, 10:59
for melo's just give her int spear, resist dark necklaces. for skills activate exorcist, magic resist, pierce and sunlight burst. that did the trick for me.

just did valkyrie falls, my god these omni attacks hurt so much. my high physical resistances are effin useless.

Chuankai
2012-04-29, 13:53
Oh great now I have to do a whole game for another glad. ring?

Wigwams
2012-04-29, 17:29
Oh great now I have to do a whole game for another glad. ring?
i do believe once you fully "trained" your ring, it will be available for synthesis. so just use the ring you got and give it XP. :D

Chuankai
2012-04-29, 19:16
i do believe once you fully "trained" your ring, it will be available for synthesis. so just use the ring you got and give it XP. :D

Yeah,just found that out from a friend of mine who is playing too.
Thanks,anyways.

Wigwams
2012-05-01, 09:53
can someone kindly post a screenshot of his fully explore advent bay map?
i cant find what gray area im missing. :confused:

i noticed this:
Mylen - Magician Mask: Pale Rider (only 2, no spawn)

i havent seen any pale riders, so i guess its the area where these guys are hanging out.

Truepower
2012-05-01, 11:10
The two Pale Riders can be accessed by the two teleporters near the bottom of the map.

Wigwams
2012-05-01, 11:26
The two Pale Riders can be accessed by the two teleporters near the bottom of the map.

thanks a bunch. the portals in the mid area simply teleport you between those 2, so i assumed the bottom portals were the same... :p

Chuankai
2012-05-02, 16:39
Hey do anyone know if Light blessing,or any other blessings' actually works?
I mean,I've tried using it on a "light" place but it didn't work.
Well actually I've only tried dark blessing,on chasms or however you spell it... Didn't really do anything for me.

Xacual
2012-05-02, 18:22
Hey do anyone know if Light blessing,or any other blessings' actually works?
I mean,I've tried using it on a "light" place but it didn't work.
Well actually I've only tried dark blessing,on chasms or however you spell it... Didn't really do anything for me.

The blessings if I remember right just increase evasion and hit, so they're kind of hard to notice working.

DaBigD
2012-05-03, 11:17
Is there a bonus for getting 100% on extra stories?

Wigwams
2012-05-03, 20:53
Is there a bonus for getting 100% on extra stories?
you unlock characters and H scenes. :D

XxSleepyxX
2012-05-03, 21:00
Anyone know how will is suppose to survive mirage forest without getting debuffed? I'm pretty sure none of his hammers give him a earth unless I'm missing an access that gives him elemental.

Xacual
2012-05-03, 22:38
Anyone know how will is suppose to survive mirage forest without getting debuffed? I'm pretty sure none of his hammers give him a earth unless I'm missing an access that gives him elemental.

You have to get to X or O resistance to negate the Mirage Forest effect I thought. Just ignore it and heal in between turns, you should have ridiculous numbers of potions by this point.

XxSleepyxX
2012-05-04, 04:01
You have to get to X or O resistance to negate the Mirage Forest effect I thought. Just ignore it and heal in between turns, you should have ridiculous numbers of potions by this point.

Hmm.. maybe i should try that. Anyone know what furniture gives you events? I think i found it awhile back but i lost the link @_@. Other than the sauna and the ramen shop. Deadbeat god doesn't respond huh? Bummer i wanted to grind that thing.

Chuankai
2012-05-05, 01:52
Hmm.. maybe i should try that. Anyone know what furniture gives you events? I think i found it awhile back but i lost the link @_@. Other than the sauna and the ramen shop. Deadbeat god doesn't respond huh? Bummer i wanted to grind that thing.

You should really leave Deadbeat god at 1 hp or just don't kill it,grind the exp it gives off just by hitting it.
It's going to give alot(Should be level 99 for you since you can even do that damned forest that I get owned in),like... was it 20 or 30 per hit... Not sure but somewhere there,will decrease a little when your characters reach lv98 or 99 though.

Wigwams
2012-05-05, 07:56
I'm looking for help in getting 2 missing cg scenes i just realized I don't have (I'm at 1120/1122 total). Under Ragsmuena, the very first spot, I only have 2/4 screens. I have every other cg screen, and I have 100% in the replay option. I've beaten the game with all 3 girls, one of the times on hard. Yet somehow I missed out on these 2 cg's somehow. Any help on acquiring these to complete the collection is appreciated.

Of the 2 cg's I do have, here's the screenshots of them

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5396/cg000090.jpg
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/607/cg000089.jpg
i have a similar problem. can anyone help?

karburator
2012-05-05, 11:46
There's actually 5 screens for Ragsmuena;
1 is her sitting in the corner after joining the party and the rest is from the H-scene with her.

Chuankai
2012-05-05, 22:34
According to the two pictures the quote had...
You are probably missing this two.
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6812/cg000001.png
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/159/cg000000.png
(The pictures are not same,look at Ragsmuena's face)


I haven't got her in to my party as a guest or member yet,so it's somewhere before you get her in.
I know that since I accidently deleted my entire CG gallery,just started on a new game and I only have the CGs I just unlocked with this new game...

Wigwams
2012-05-05, 22:54
i see, what route and chapter are you in? so its between separating the reaper and having her as a guest?
did you already do "Wanted 78: New Reaper"?

Chuankai
2012-05-06, 01:57
i see, what route and chapter are you in? so its between separating the reaper and having her as a guest?
did you already do "Wanted 78: New Reaper"?

Well in this game I'm :
Chapter 7
Serawi route
I havent finish quest 78 yet,but I have the quest.
I have a vague memory of me doing some map at Yuidora mines and meeting her and the storyline goes that my party can't defeat her,and then we apparently retreat...
-After checking-
It should be the Bat Tunnel.
Also,Bat Tunnel should be done at chapter two already.(I have a save at chapter two,and Bat Tunnel is already completed)
Edit : After some thinking it shouldn't be Bat Tunnel...
I mean,she looks as if she's getting beaten,and at Bat Tunnel,according to my memories at least,I should be the one that retreats.

Edit 2: I'll go check something I'm suspecting,if it gives any CGs there I'll edit this again.

Xacual
2012-05-06, 02:27
It's probably from one of the Yuela / Ragsmuena conversations that happen in Yuela's route?

Chuankai
2012-05-06, 02:35
It's probably from one of the Yuela / Ragsmuena conversations that happen in Yuela's route?

I thought about that but they were fighting... o_o...
Damn if only I could remember >_>

Wigwams
2012-05-06, 02:48
hmmmm. can you elaborate on that rags/yuela conversation? does this happen before or after her being a guest?

the missing screenshot shows her face of being separated already. and from what i remember that starts with the "new reaper" quest. but chuankai didnt even do that yet... will the reaper randomly appear in other maps? :confused:

Chuankai
2012-05-06, 07:24
hmmmm. can you elaborate on that rags/yuela conversation? does this happen before or after her being a guest?

the missing screenshot shows her face of being separated already. and from what i remember that starts with the "new reaper" quest. but chuankai didnt even do that yet... will the reaper randomly appear in other maps? :confused:

You should try doing the quests,I'm sorry but I might have done it a little before my new game :uhoh:
Well in any case it should be in the final fight with Ragsmunea as from what I remember the only time Yuela fights Ragsmunea with her being "normal" is as you said,the quest.
It should be at the final fight...

Blanchimont
2012-05-06, 07:56
Anyone know what the weapons #67 and #111 are? Only ones I'm lacking info of.

I assume one of them should correspond to weapon recipe #65?

Truepower
2012-05-06, 08:24
67 is the Kitchen Knife, 111 is the Zilterry Staff. You get the recipes for them when you have maxed out Yuela's and Emelita's upgradable weapons (which you can get on their respective route), and Wil is having 500+ kills.

Blanchimont
2012-05-06, 08:41
Thanks. Was recipe #65 one of them?

Edit; Not Kitchen Knife, that's recipe #37. So it's Zilterry Staff?

Wigwams
2012-05-06, 09:19
You should try doing the quests,I'm sorry but I might have done it a little before my new game :uhoh:
Well in any case it should be in the final fight with Ragsmunea as from what I remember the only time Yuela fights Ragsmunea with her being "normal" is as you said,the quest.
It should be at the final fight...

hmmm. still didnt get them. i wonder if the following needs to be done:
1) use yuela to fight rags
2) dont kill her, just do the "under 50% hp" and etc
3) use her starting clothing

:uhoh:

Chuankai
2012-05-07, 02:34
hmmm. still didnt get them. i wonder if the following needs to be done:
1) use yuela to fight rags
2) dont kill her, just do the "under 50% hp" and etc
3) use her starting clothing

:uhoh:

Hmm...
Yuela to fight rags - I did it
Don't kill her - I killed her
Use starting clothing - Yes
All these were from chapter 1 or 2,at Yuidora Woodlands... The first time you enter due to the old man asking you for some fruit spice,and then you meet him...
I can't really remember much about the quest but I do remember what I did.
Since my characters were level 1 and only Yuela had a holy weapon...
So I just left her to kill the reaper.
Thanks. Was recipe #65 one of them?

Edit; Not Kitchen Knife, that's recipe #37. So it's Zilterry Staff?

Wait,what?
Kitchen knife is #67!
#37 - Suzaku sword

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Hooves
2012-05-07, 07:35
I find this game's lack of male VAs quite a shock. Especially considering that all the female characters have at least one VA.

Also, first playthrough of this game after finally getting it. Noticed I killed the Thunder Dragon when Wil decides to want to fight him :heh: Also killed the reaper everytime she appears :uhoh: am I doing something wrong here? Also, this may be a silly question. But how do you enhance clothing? I have all these gems that give a specific buff, but I don't know how to add them on.

Chuankai
2012-05-07, 08:34
I find this game's lack of male VAs quite a shock. Especially considering that all the female characters have at least one VA.

Also, first playthrough of this game after finally getting it. Noticed I killed the Thunder Dragon when Wil decides to want to fight him :heh: Also killed the reaper everytime she appears :uhoh: am I doing something wrong here? Also, this may be a silly question. But how do you enhance clothing? I have all these gems that give a specific buff, but I don't know how to add them on.

Okay,firstly...
According to what I found about Eushully,the company that made this game,their games aways have a VA for ANY female character,no matter how small or big their role is,and they will never have any VA for ANY male characters,no matter how small or big their role is,too.

You can kill the Reaper or Thunder Dragon but just note that the storyline will still be the same.
If it was intended that you will lose to the Reaper or Dragon,the storyline wont change.
You just got your self some EXP and probably some items.

To enhance your clothes,simply get in your home and then click on Workshop - Enhance
There can only be a max of 4 slots for gems(The one you said,giving specific buffs and so on) for each clothing,and to unlock them you need to enhance it first.
Enhancing clothes does :
Gives more stats to the clothes(Meaning the stats will only add when you use it)
Gives your character skills(Skills are different,once you get them you can use it even if you are not using the specific armour)
Opens the gem slots
Unlocks events(You will unlock a event by enhancing clothes only if the armour you are enhancing is for your current route.(Example : Emelita's clothes when you are at her route)You also need to be at chapter 5 or onwards)

Wigwams
2012-05-07, 21:28
finally got the 2 remaining CGs for rags. its actually from yuela route, chap 9. my first play (yuela route) i failed to recruit ragsmuena, thus the scene involving the CG didnt show up.
it seems that CG of them fighting was just practice. they were just sparring and not actually fighting each other. :heh:

Hooves
2012-05-07, 21:41
Okay,firstly...
According to what I found about Eushully,the company that made this game,their games aways have a VA for ANY female character,no matter how small or big their role is,and they will never have any VA for ANY male characters,no matter how small or big their role is,too.

You can kill the Reaper or Thunder Dragon but just note that the storyline will still be the same.
If it was intended that you will lose to the Reaper or Dragon,the storyline wont change.
You just got your self some EXP and probably some items.

To enhance your clothes,simply get in your home and then click on Workshop - Enhance
There can only be a max of 4 slots for gems(The one you said,giving specific buffs and so on) for each clothing,and to unlock them you need to enhance it first.
Enhancing clothes does :
Gives more stats to the clothes(Meaning the stats will only add when you use it)
Gives your character skills(Skills are different,once you get them you can use it even if you are not using the specific armour)
Opens the gem slots
Unlocks events(You will unlock a event by enhancing clothes only if the armour you are enhancing is for your current route.(Example : Emelita's clothes when you are at her route)You also need to be at chapter 5 or onwards)

Thanks for the information. I was wondering why I haven't been unlocking CGs while on my first playthrough. I just thought it was a New Game+ thing, but it seems I was wrong there.

Chuankai
2012-05-08, 00:16
finally got the 2 remaining CGs for rags. its actually from yuela route, chap 9. my first play (yuela route) i failed to recruit ragsmuena, thus the scene involving the CG didnt show up.
it seems that CG of them fighting was just practice. they were just sparring and not actually fighting each other. :heh:

You are joking!!!
I didn't even think of that v_v
*Depressed*
Well in any case,congrats on full 100%:D

Thanks for the information. I was wondering why I haven't been unlocking CGs while on my first playthrough. I just thought it was a New Game+ thing, but it seems I was wrong there.

No problem...
On another note,you should finish the extra stories since you've finished the game once already.
Also,make sure to "level" their character-specific weapons up!
The weapon for yuela is...
Eastern Moon - Cresent Moon - Cutting Moon
If you get their "last" weapon like Cutting Moon in this case,to the maximum "level",after getting Meister rank and Wil having 500 kills you should be able to make their ultimate weapon.
You need to be in their route at least once to unlock their character-specific weapon recipe,though.

Edit
Can anyone tell me how to get artifacts?
By that,I mean do you get them by killing or...?
Since actually I just did Advent Bay and noticed that some guys there don't even drop anything upon defeat...
Redoing it now actually...

Truepower
2012-05-08, 18:36
While all monsters in the lvl90 NG+ dungeons have a void drop as well (meaning they have a chance to drop 'nothing'), artifacts can only drop the second time you enter such a dungeon.

Chuankai
2012-05-08, 21:55
While all monsters in the lvl90 NG+ dungeons have a void drop as well (meaning they have a chance to drop 'nothing'), artifacts can only drop the second time you enter such a dungeon.

Oh,okay...
Time to spam the dungeon >_>

Now I wish that I don't have this quest for Mirage Forest,that map is horrible...
FS drops like mad and on top of that is a -40 per-turn attack ._.

Truepower
2012-05-09, 09:21
Some pieces of advice :
- Monster drops differ if killed in different order
- They also differ if killed on different turns. Saving, skipping a turn, killing a monster and reloading if the result is unfavorable is a valid method if the monster is limited in availability
- Equipping Ful's mill/tears or both change the drops in their entirety, rather than simply adding more to the already determined drop for that turn
- Mirage forest 4 FS/tile can be reduced to 1 FS/tile with teleport or flying, the drain/turn can be negated with high earth resistance (Aht, Crayanne, heroines in Earth garb)

endarion88
2012-05-09, 11:58
can someone please tell me where to find stynia accessory? i had 2 but used them for make 2 of the maids final weapon and need 2 more for the other

Xacual
2012-05-09, 13:13
can someone please tell me where to find stynia accessory? i had 2 but used them for make 2 of the maids final weapon and need 2 more for the other

I might be remembering wrong, but there's one Stynia in a NG+ mine level, and I think there is one during the story levels of Yuella and Serawi routes. So if you played all three routes you should have at least 4 of them.

endarion88
2012-05-09, 13:34
I might be remembering wrong, but there's one Stynia in a NG+ mine level, and I think there is one during the story levels of Yuella and Serawi routes. So if you played all three routes you should have at least 4 of them.

i'm currently in yuela route again done all 3 route must have missed them somewhere, do you remember in which map was the one in yuela route?

Xacual
2012-05-09, 13:36
No sorry I don't remember for sure, but I think it's the mine mission after she leaves your party and you have to find her in the mine before the random npc alchemists do.

endarion88
2012-05-09, 13:55
No sorry I don't remember for sure, but I think it's the mine mission after she leaves your party and you have to find her in the mine before the random npc alchemists do.

seems no.. done that map whit 100% all reward ecc but no stynia

Chuankai
2012-05-09, 16:35
Some pieces of advice :
- Monster drops differ if killed in different order
- They also differ if killed on different turns. Saving, skipping a turn, killing a monster and reloading if the result is unfavorable is a valid method if the monster is limited in availability
- Equipping Ful's mill/tears or both change the drops in their entirety, rather than simply adding more to the already determined drop for that turn
- Mirage forest 4 FS/tile can be reduced to 1 FS/tile with teleport or flying, the drain/turn can be negated with high earth resistance (Aht, Crayanne, heroines in Earth garb)

Well more specifically...
The drain dosn't apply to anyone with S or higher resist. for Earth...
Just that,I'm at chapter 8 now with Master rank...
With that amount of CP the 4 FS/tile doubles or triples to mad amounts...
Walking a few steps can cost 100 FS >_>
Thanks anyways.

Xacual
2012-05-09, 16:40
You're doing NG+ stuff and you aren't Meister or Magnus yet? 400 CP is key.

Chuankai
2012-05-09, 18:36
You're doing NG+ stuff and you aren't Meister or Magnus yet? 400 CP is key.

Nah well,I gotten it before but I didn't import character levels for this game.
Wanted them to get better stats from level 1 with Marwen stuff since their stats were like... Totally...crap...

Not sure if guild rank goes out with character levels or I actually forgot to get them over,though.

Xacual
2012-05-09, 18:52
Nah well,I gotten it before but I didn't import character levels for this game.
Wanted them to get better stats from level 1 with Marwen stuff since their stats were like... Totally...crap...

Not sure if guild rank goes out with character levels or I actually forgot to get them over,though.

Stats don't really matter though, or at least not to the level that you should reroll levels just to get better ones. Might as well just use the fountain of youth if you want capped stats. Not to mention level caps before 50 make marwen items pretty useless for most of the characters. The only characters pre 50 that should use Marwen's are the extra stories characters and Hannah.

Wigwams
2012-05-09, 18:56
fountain of youth might have been a better alternative? :confused: