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xBakaChanx

2012-09-10, 23:01

Author by Yuu Kamiya 榎宫祐 ( For those of you who don't know, he's the guy who drew the pictures of Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi)
Artist by Yuu Kamiya
Currently only one volume is out
Vol 1 (http://www.mediafactory.co.jp/bunkoj/book_detail/848)

Had anyone read this yet? It seem very good when I read vol 1 =w= the sister is soooooo awesome >_< I personally think that this series have a lot of potential >_<

Richocet

2012-09-10, 23:06

What's it about, do you know?

Hemisphere

2012-09-10, 23:13

I've heard about this, but I haven't checked it out. The MF Bunko label scares me.

In case you're interested about stories with video game relevance, I also suggest 僕と彼女のゲーム戦争 (http://honto.jp/netstore/search_021_10%E5%83%95%E3%81%A8%E5%BD%BC%E5%A5%B3% E3%81%AE%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E6%88%A6%E4%BA %89.html?srchf=1&srchGnrNm=1) (Boku to Kanojo no Game Sensou) by Shiwasu Tooru. Aside from the very nice art, it's got very good reviews with its four volumes. It's like Haganai, only with games and nice art by Happou Bijin.

xBakaChanx

2012-09-10, 23:16

I can translate the summary from the chinese summary, but don't expect much >_>

Summary - They are Hikki and Neet and they don't go out of their room but on the internet they are refered to as an urban legend,"genius gamers" "blank" ( Here it uses the character "sky" and "white"[which is the brother and sister's name], when combine it means "blank". ) Those two refer to the world as a "Trash Game." Then one day those two are transported to another world by a boy who refered to himself as "God." This is a world where wars are prohibited, a world where everything is decided by "games," yes, even the borders of a country is decided by "games."Forced by the other race, there's only one city left for the human race "Imanity." Can the brother and sister being the hikki/neet that they are become the "savior" of mankind?
"Now let us begin the game!"

Edit - Someone who can post a better translation please do so m(>_<)m

@Erhjegel Ya i read the first two vol of that too lol, << blonde + twintail is just too good to pass on XD
The novel is actually pretty good ~ siscon brother and brocon sister is just too good to pass on as well lol

Edit 2 - Someone on Baka-Tsuki had a summary on there, it's probably 10x better than mine~ not sure if I'm allow to link it so just google it =w=

Plant42

2012-09-11, 11:35

Edit - Someone who can post a better translation please do so m(>_<)m

@Erhjegel Ya i read the first two vol of that too lol, << blonde + twintail is just too good to pass on XD
The novel is actually pretty good ~ siscon brother and brocon sister is just too good to pass on as well lol

Edit 2 - Someone on Baka-Tsuki had a summary on there, it's probably 10x better than mine~ not sure if I'm allow to link it so just google it =w=

Here is my summary

NO GAME NO LIFE(MF Bunko J)
This is the story of a NEET and Hikikomori siblings who are also a genius gamer that become an urban legend on internet known as "Kuuhaku"(空(sora(brother))+白(shiro(sister)) = 空白(Kuuhaku)) a legendary gamer who never lost once.
One day the two were summoned to a parallel world where war was prohibited by God and everything will be settled by a game. Be it a territory , life or even a chastity(?).
Will these two hopeless human become a savior for mankind who got chased by the other races till they only have one city left?

I've heard about this, but I haven't checked it out. The MF Bunko label scares me.

In case you're interested about stories with video game relevance, I also suggest 僕と彼女のゲーム戦争 (http://honto.jp/netstore/search_021_10%E5%83%95%E3%81%A8%E5%BD%BC%E5%A5%B3% E3%81%AE%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E6%88%A6%E4%BA %89.html?srchf=1&srchGnrNm=1) (Boku to Kanojo no Game Sensou) by Shiwasu Tooru. Aside from the very nice art, it's got very good reviews with its four volumes. It's like Haganai, only with games and nice art by Happou Bijin.

I've read the first volume and It's really a great series, can't wait for vol.2

And no this one is not a story focus on video game.
It's about every kind of game such as chess, cards and ETC that play in a way out of common sense.

Their opponents are those inhuman races such as angels, dragons, elves, beastmen and etc who possessed every kind of extraordinary powers. While human have nothing.

p.s. vol.2 is coming at the end of this month

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9696/ngnl2.jpg

Syokool

2012-09-11, 12:59

That cover reminds me the cover from some hentai taköbon :uhoh:

blackwhite67

2012-09-11, 15:28

Are our protagonists male or female?

xBakaChanx

2012-09-11, 17:47

The protagonist is the brocon sister and the siscon brother XD

Anyone else find it amusing in how they won the chess game near the end of vol 1, lol I didn't expect that way of winning XD

That cover reminds me the cover from some hentai taköbon :uhoh:
It's that Yuu Kamiya guy, the one who did a bunch of arts on touhou, did drawings for tenma usagi, Greed packet, EArTh~

Plant42

2012-09-11, 22:58

Anyone else find it amusing in how they won the chess game near the end of vol 1, lol I didn't expect that way of winning XD

Yeah, and that's why I love this series.
A badass(and pervert) gamer siblings who win an out of common sense game with even more out of common sense way.

Now after reading a preview for new volume, I wonder how can they win a game against an enemy who can read their mind.

xBakaChanx

2012-09-11, 23:07

Yeah, and that's why I love this series.
A badass(and pervert) gamer siblings who win an out of common sense game with even more out of common sense way.

Now after reading a preview for new volume, I wonder how can they win a game against an enemy who can read their mind.

Brocon sister ^^
They have so many disadvantages being unable to use mindreading and all other other special characteristics of the other race >_> going to be a hard fight for them after all, but they did win against "god" so it will be interesting to see what else they can do as the story goes on, can't wait till they challenge him again XD I really like how the story is made up of the sister and brother who cover for what the other don't have when they play the game, together they make up 空白

Syokool

2012-09-12, 09:18

It's that Yuu Kamiya guy, the one who did a bunch of arts on touhou, did drawings for tenma usagi, Greed packet, EArTh~

I see, I like Greed packet unlimited (?)

I approve ;)

blackwhite67

2012-09-12, 15:39

Do they know that the other is a con? If so, then what's to stop them from getting it on?

xBakaChanx

2012-09-12, 21:10

Do they know that the other is a con? If so, then what's to stop them from getting it on?

It's actually quite interesting and I don't want to spoil too much but
It's cause the sister is not of age yet, so they come up with all those things with the other female character they met in the other world, like purposely making those "ecchi" scenes in anime happens with that other female character with the brother involved lol,but they took care that those scenes aren't ecchi enough to b R18

Hemisphere

2012-09-12, 21:45

Here is my summary

NO GAME NO LIFE(MF Bunko J)
This is the story of a NEET and Hikikomori siblings who are also a genius gamer that become an urban legend on internet known as "Kuuhaku"(空(sora(brother))+白(shiro(sister)) = 空白(Kuuhaku)) a legendary gamer who never lost once.
One day the two were summoned to a parallel world where war was prohibited by God and everything will be settled by a game. Be it a territory , life or even a chastity(?).
Will these two hopeless human become a savior for mankind who got chased by the other races till they only have one city left?

I've read the first volume and It's really a great series, can't wait for vol.2

And no this one is not a story focus on video game.
It's about every kind of game such as chess, cards and ETC that play in a way out of common sense.

Their opponents are those inhuman races such as angels, dragons, elves, beastmen and etc who possessed every kind of extraordinary powers. While human have nothing.

p.s. vol.2 is coming at the end of this month

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9696/ngnl2.jpg

I stand corrected then. Sounds like an interesting premise, and I definitely like it when characters who are far outmatched use their wits to compensate for their lack of overwhelming advantages, much like in the manga Mx0. Might give this one a shot.

xBakaChanx

2012-09-12, 21:52

I stand corrected then. Sounds like an interesting premise, and I definitely like it when characters who are far outmatched use their wits to compensate for their lack of overwhelming advantages, much like in the manga Mx0. Might give this one a shot.

If you like that kind of stuff you would definitely like this, the humans are like the weakest race in the novel lacking in many special powers the other race have. It's like what the brother said Something along the line of we humans are the weakest, and in the past before the prohibition of war we are proud of that weakness because our only weapon is to use our brain to win battles while the strong uses their strength, but now wars are prohibited the other races are taking over our "weapon" and what we have left is the strong using our "weapon" But be proud, nothing have changed we are still the weakest, the strong trying to use the weapons we have will not be able to use it to their full potential.

blackwhite67

2012-09-14, 16:46

It's actually quite interesting and I don't want to spoil too much but
It's cause the sister is not of age yet, so they come up with all those things with the other female character they met in the other world, like purposely making those "ecchi" scenes in anime happens with that other female character with the brother involved lol,but they took care that those scenes aren't ecchi enough to b R18

Wait. You mean they make ecchi situations with other characters in place of each other?

How old are they and if they're both cons then do they act all lovey dovey all the time?

How do they address each other? -chan?

Who are their hosts in this other world?

Any other romantic developments with other characters?

What do you mean they cover for each other's weaknesses?

http://i.minus.com/jBfWTws5H1qlE.jpg

Is this the sister?

For those of you who are curious, the illustrations can be found here (http://min.us/mbaN11S0c2)

xBakaChanx

2012-09-17, 01:22

Wait. You mean they make ecchi situations with other characters in place of each other?

How old are they and if they're both cons then do they act all lovey dovey all the time?

How do they address each other? -chan?

Who are their hosts in this other world?

Any other romantic developments with other characters?

What do you mean they cover for each other's weaknesses?

http://i.minus.com/jBfWTws5H1qlE.jpg

Is this the sister?

For those of you who are curious, the illustrations can be found here (http://min.us/mbaN11S0c2)

Yes they made situations like that in the novel, like making the red haired girl not wear any pantsu~ XD The "God" of the parallel world invited them to the other world, and at the end of vol 1 they won the position of the "king" of the city through a game. Not sure if there's any romantic developments yet, but the red haired girl fell in love with the brother due to him winning a game against her and then as the *bet* won from winning the game, he ordered her to fall in love with him. ( Yes she really fell in love with him, not like *forcefully fell in love but still actually hates him*). That cover for each other weakness, the sister is a genius but lack the ability to understand another's "heart" due to her being a genius. and the brother is a below the average kind of guy, and because of that he have the ability to understand a person's "heart". Lastly, yes that's the sister in the pic.

blackwhite67

2012-09-17, 11:59

Thanks for the spoiler!

Sorry, but you didnt answer my second and third questions.

How old are they and what honorifics do they use to address each other?

larethian

2012-09-17, 20:35

Yuu Kamiya writing is pretty surprising when I first got wind of this on twitter. I've meaning to follow this, but you guys just gave me more motivation to do so. Guess I'd have to avoid this thread for a while

TJP1600

2012-09-18, 00:24

The games aspect seems very interesting (I mean it even has Chess! Hopefully they have gambling games as well) and the Chinese looked readable for my level. I'll put this on the reading list.

xBakaChanx

2012-09-20, 02:47

Thanks for the spoiler!

Sorry, but you didnt answer my second and third questions.

How old are they and what honorifics do they use to address each other?

Sorry, I don't recall the age? pretty sure they are underage tho and for honorifics, since I read the chinese version I'm not entirely sure....

The games aspect seems very interesting (I mean it even has Chess! Hopefully they have gambling games as well) and the Chinese looked readable for my level. I'll put this on the reading list.

Ya the setting itself is pretty interesting and have a lot of potential ^^

Plant42

2012-09-22, 13:33

Thanks for the spoiler!

Sorry, but you didnt answer my second and third questions.

How old are they and what honorifics do they use to address each other?

Sora is 18, Shiro is 11 years old

for the honorifics

Sora calls his sister "Shiro".
Shiro calls her brother "Nii".

blackwhite67

2012-09-22, 15:33

Thanks a lot Plant42.

blackwhite67

2012-09-23, 13:36

@Insane: We just answered that and this thread is only 2 pages.

blackwhite67

2012-10-09, 19:41

Sorry. Got to double post so people will see this thread. Thanks Jonathanasdf. No Game No Life is now a project on baka-tsuki!

jonathanasdf

2012-10-09, 19:55

no it's not, it's just a teaser that i'm gonna translate part of a chapter and then abandon....

unless someone is going to take over *poke poke poke*

xBakaChanx

2012-10-09, 21:44

Ya this is a great novel someone should take over >=D *help pokepokepoke*

Hell_ping

2012-10-09, 23:52

I got a deck of cards. Let's play poker...

...

Isn't the title of this LN 'No Game No Life'?:heh:

Anyway, keep your prayers going.

xBakaChanx

2012-10-09, 23:58

I got a deck of cards. Let's play poker...

...

Isn't the title of this LN 'No Game No Life'?:heh:

Anyway, keep your prayers going.

Deal please, we need more players

chancs

2012-10-10, 09:15

The series has been introduced on BT as a teaser project. Enjoy :D

No Game No Life (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=No_Game_No_Life)

Plant42

2012-10-27, 12:51

Is there anybody who have read vol.2 yet?

After finish this volume, I've to say I'm really impress with how the story progress.
The first volume is great but this one is even better. It didn't waste the potential it has.
The endind made me sceam abd call for the next volume.

And yeah Jibril the knowledge addicted is very lovelly.

Plant42

2013-01-08, 04:54

Hell_ping

2013-01-08, 10:10

Update

Vol.3 's cover

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/5441/ngnl3.png

-This new volume is coming on 25 Jan as well as the manga adaptation which will start in Comic Alive from the next issue(on sell 26 Jan).
The artist for the manga is his wife, Hiiragi Mashiro.

-Aside of the 16th rank in the "Kono Light Novel ga Sukoi 2013"(which will be a 2nd rank if you count only a brand new LN which was debuted last year)

This series also got a 2nd rank in the "Best 5 LN which to seems to get an anime adaptation in 2013" selected by the Tokyo university cultural circle
http://ddnavi.com/pickup/105669/

Why do I have a funny feeling about that name?

Anyway, translating top 5 in this list (Brackets show KonoSugoi 13 rank):

1. Mahouka (12)
2. No Game No Life (16)
3. Nourin (20)
4. Dog Ears
5. Ninja Slayer

I might add on to the teaser of this series a little down a road as I do my Translation of the Day (TotD).

xBakaChanx

2013-01-09, 01:28

Nourin....just isn't my type of book =w=
^^ it would be great if you would add to the translation~!

TJP1600

2013-01-09, 01:40

Is there a site that is up-to-date with Chinese translations for this novel?

xBakaChanx

2013-01-09, 01:56

Is there a site that is up-to-date with Chinese translations for this novel?

Only one volume is out, and well the prologue of the second chapter, but the translator quitted because it got licenced by EDITTED - tongli -

TJP1600

2013-01-09, 02:08

Only one volume is out, and well the prologue of the second chapter, but the translator quitted because it got licenced by kadokawa taiwan

Sigh, another novel slayed by kadokawa :<

xBakaChanx

2013-01-09, 02:16

They are EDITTED -released vol 1 this month- \ if I'm not mistaken =)

larethian

2013-01-09, 04:45

Sigh, another novel slayed by kadokawa :<

what!? so you don't want the author to make more money so that he has incentive to write more and better stories?

TJP1600

2013-01-09, 05:01

what!? so you don't want the author to make more money so that he has incentive to write more and better stories?

Haha, it's just me being greedy since sometimes the licensing denies an opportunity to read the Chinese translation right away. Great for the author, a fat load of good it does for me in the short term.

xBakaChanx

2013-01-09, 05:11

^ Also if the sale is bad and they stop releasing any further volumes or if any complications happens and they are not able to release the volume and is "working on a deal", then it will just end up like no other translator would pick up the series and the official company can't release any further volumes as well.

Athena

2013-01-22, 18:32

Sigh, another novel slayed by kadokawa :<

Which is great. You can read re-transcribed translations instead of fan translations.

waffler

2013-01-23, 00:34

whoa if the main guy is 11 years old how old r they girls that love him? o.o

Allen

2013-01-25, 20:11

whoa if the main guy is 11 years old how old r they girls that love him? o.o
? Sora, the male MC, is 18 years old. His little sister, Shiro, is 11 years old.

Anyway, trying to answer your question:
Steph ~ 15,16
Djibril (not really a love interest) ~ way older, after all she is alive since the last war

waffler

2013-01-25, 22:37

ohhh thanks so the main is a siscon and a lolicon :3

blackwhite67

2013-01-25, 22:56

I asked in the beginning if they know that the other's a con and if so what stopped them from getting it on.

It's actually quite interesting and I don't want to spoil too much but
It's cause the sister is not of age yet, so they come up with all those things with the other female character they met in the other world, like purposely making those "ecchi" scenes in anime happens with that other female character with the brother involved lol,but they took care that those scenes aren't ecchi enough to b R18

waffler

2013-01-25, 23:52

is this ln gonna get translated? it seems really awesome :D

1urk3r

2013-01-26, 03:46

oh wow....playing a game with both feet while eating a cup a noodles that alone is awesomeness o_O

although it's only one chapter does the manga stay true to the novel?

Ddraig

2013-01-26, 06:58

I just saw chapter 1 raw manga version out at some chinese site. The art look pretty nice. Lots of ecchi stuff. Hope someone translating it soon.

Plant42

2013-01-26, 09:27

Vol.3 Pin Up

lol at Sora 's face, your expression really give a last boss vibe.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1597/ngnl3pu.png

Allen

2013-01-26, 10:04

Vol.3 Pin Up

lol at Sora 's face, your expression really give a last boss vibe.

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1597/ngnl3pu.png
For the enemies Sora is really a last boss :heh:

And yay~ for the new blond character.

waffler

2013-01-27, 01:20

is the sister the one with black hair? o.o

DevotionFX

2013-01-27, 02:15

is the sister the one with black hair? o.o
No, no, the one with white long hair is sister.

Allen

2013-02-06, 21:01

Plant42

2013-02-07, 02:55

Btw, from the twitter of Kamiya Yuu (https://twitter.com/yuukamiya68) it looks like the abbreviation of No Game No Life is NGNL (ノゲノラ = No Geemu No Raifu).

And the volume 03 was freaking awesome. The first Game showed how much Sora and Shiro are already broken.

Totally agreed, this new volume is a whole pack of awesomeness.

It's really show how strong the bonds between this siblings is.
I love how he described the terms "two persons as one person "of Kuuhaku.

"Broken and twisted yet unite, They were designed to completely become one like that".

Also I wonder what lies in Sora's past, the past that even Shiro didn't know

kuroishinigami

2013-02-07, 05:08

I've got a question for people who have read the novel, how good is the mind game in this series? How does it compare to...let's see.... Liar Game?

blackwhite67

2013-02-15, 23:56

I'm hoping to stir up some attention for this series so I'm posting this piece of news here. The first chapter of the manga has been scanlated.

Mars Mode

2013-02-16, 11:53

Interestng siblings to say the least. Im hoping for the introduction of the world to pass my judgement, and the interaction of them with another characters.

Allen

2013-02-16, 22:22

I've got a question for people who have read the novel, how good is the mind game in this series? How does it compare to...let's see.... Liar Game?
I don't read Liar Game so I can't compare both of them. But I don't think that NGNL is strong on this aspect.

Btw, the first chapter covered the prologue of the first volume. Kamiya's wife is doing a great job with the manga.

Mura

2013-02-16, 22:36

I don't read Liar Game so I can't compare both of them. But I don't think that NGNL is strong on this aspect.

Btw, the first chapter covered the prologue of the first volume. Kamiya's wife is doing a great job with the manga.

Must be nice having your wife doing the artwork for your story.:)

Prologue huh. This is a monthly chapter release, right?

Allen

2013-02-16, 23:20

Must be nice having your wife doing the artwork for your story.:)

Prologue huh. This is a monthly chapter release, right?
I think so. Most of the light novels adaptation into manga that I know are monthly.

DevotionFX

2013-02-17, 02:42

I think so. Most of the light novels adaptation into manga that I know are monthly.
Yeah, since "Comic Alive" is the monthly magazine.

xBakaChanx

2013-02-19, 04:41

I've got a question for people who have read the novel, how good is the mind game in this series? How does it compare to...let's see.... Liar Game?

Imo from vol 1 it didn't really reach the level of complexity of the games in Liar game or the way of thinking the characters have in Liar game, on the other hand the way he won the chess game in vol 1 was pretty funny for me XD

Plant42

2013-02-19, 11:22

I've got a question for people who have read the novel, how good is the mind game in this series? How does it compare to...let's see.... Liar Game?

Well It has a totally different genre so I think it's hard to compare those two.
While Liar Game focus on lying and mind game, NGNL is mainly on how you use both a pure brain plus a godly skilled(in game and etc.) to overcome the opponents who is really superior for in both physically and magically plus they have a cheat in hand which they can use at will.

And if you asked me the two siblings won't have no problem in surpassing the Liar Game, while Akiyama won't have a chance to survive all the game in NGNL(he may be able to do some but not all of them especially the game in Vol.3)

tm902541

2013-02-20, 05:34

Anyone read the Light novel could provide all the character names?

kuroishinigami

2013-02-20, 08:57

Plant42

2013-02-20, 09:49

Hmmm... I've finished the first volume. While it's not what I expected from the synopsis. It's entertaining enough to keep me interested till the end. Bullshit factor a little too glaring though lol, especially about Sora. Shiro's bullying problem I can understand, but there's no way someone who can understand 6 language can be considered stupid in the real world(which what Sora's problem basically is).

In vol.3 the author left a huge mystery about Sora's past which Clamie(vol.1's boss) has seen, it's the past that even Shiro didn't know(the past before he met Shiro).
Whatever she have seen is not normal, it's even made her to call the meet of those two as a destiny and even said "If those two didn't met...."

So there are much more about there past to follow in the future.

P.S. Vol.1-3 were counted as one consecutive arc so I suggested you to read the other two ASAP this is where they will truly show out there potential(the first volume is just like an orduvr) and yeah they will make you amazing.

jonathanasdf

2013-02-26, 19:57

I've got the chess game part of Vol1 up on B-T
http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=No_Game_No_Life:Volume1_Chapter3

Mars Mode

2013-02-27, 10:53

Jajaja I like how Sora badmouths his adversary, and his unique and unchangeable justice.

XFire

2013-06-16, 17:24

Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that Sora essentially brainwashed that princess girl into falling in love with him, or does that get fixed later.

blackwhite67

2013-06-16, 18:00

Is anyone else disturbed by the fact that Sora essentially brainwashed that princess girl into falling in love with him, or does that get fixed later.

Well, if you put it like that of course, but she lost fair and square so she's got to pay the price. Besides, this isn't some fake magically induced love where the subject can still bear feelings of hate. This is the real stuff.

XFire

2013-06-16, 21:40

Well, if you put it like that of course, but she lost fair and square so she's got to pay the price. Besides, this isn't some fake magically induced love where the subject can still bear feelings of hate. This is the real stuff.

That she was forced to feel. Wow, that is f***ing creepy. Like, H-doujin creepy.

blackwhite67

2013-06-16, 22:30

That she was forced to feel. Wow, that is f***ing creepy. Like, H-doujin creepy.

The author's just writing it off like nothing so it's best to just go with the flow.

Mars Mode

2013-06-16, 22:37

Someone said that she still hates him, but loves him or something like that. Is that incorrect?

blackwhite67

2013-06-16, 22:43

Someone said that she still hates him, but loves him or something like that. Is that incorrect?

Even if you're in love with someone, it's still possible to hate him/her.

FRS

2013-06-17, 03:59

Well, if you put it like that of course, but she lost fair and square so she's got to pay the price. Besides, this isn't some fake magically induced love where the subject can still bear feelings of hate. This is the real stuff.

That's still mind control you know and it's still creepy.

Indra040293

2013-07-13, 20:37

blackwhite67

2013-07-14, 20:53

i know that fact make it a bit creepy .... but ..... for somereason that make me want to read it more XD

isn't it interesting with that kind of "character" as main protagonist XD and seeing the princess girl being somewhat forced to love him is just XD interesting XD

Chapter 4 scanlated!...Alright, I admit it's a bit creepy, but that doesn't make it any less great a series. Just what you'd expect from siblings joined at the hip. They can't live without each other.

offended

2013-07-15, 10:22

XFire

2013-07-15, 11:51

I think the mind control thing is really disturbing. Intruding on someone's free will is inherently violating but it can be used in interesting ways. However, moral complexity and depth of character aren't really this author's cup of tea. Instead he, or she, seems content to generate a moe kyun kyun fucktoy and leave it at that.

Even more oddly, the manga revels in the princess's bondage. It takes great pains to illustrate the extent to which not only her mentality but her sexuality has been enslaved. The female lead even acknowledges that this is a human rights violation, but it's apparently the victim's fault- 'cause she was too gullible.

Really the female lead is right, the princess was lucky to get out of that game with her life. How can we hold this against the main characters? They're practically gods overflowing with generosity and charity.

Um, in their defense if the princess had won she would have enslaved the two of them instead.

offended

2013-07-15, 16:31

Um, in their defense if the princess had won she would have enslaved the two of them instead.

Certainly, if the princess had won she would have had the power to command the two main characters however she pleased. However the main character was the one who instigated the game, negotiated the terms, and determined the bet.

Sora's grand strategy involved duping the princess not outwitting her. Everything revolved around conditions which were not what they seemed. Sora won as soon as she agreed and everything before that was reversible. So, I don't think that it's justifiable to say that the main characters were up against it and that this was their only option.

My primary complaint is not that this happened, but that it is trivialized and trivialized in a particularly malicious manner. You see, normally when we want to cast something dark in a whiter light we do so by hiding the questionable aspects.

If a bad guy were to be gunned down he would be 'defeated', and we would avoid things like the impact to his family, the fact that his neighbor will starve without him, his frustration, or the excruciating pain that often accompanies a less than instantaneous death. In short, we avoid empathizing with the bad guy because he's the bad guy.

By contrast, the princess is the most human character in the entire manga thus far and we go through the enslavement episode primarily from her perspective. This manga is holding up those darker aspects and giggling.

"Isn't it too adorable the way he writhes in pain? I bet the family will starve- that's just totes delish."

(not to attack you personally XFire, I appreciate your input)

sasuke706

2013-07-15, 17:35

You're over-exaggerating how bad it actually is. Not that I don't mind a completely grimdark story where people are broken and everything is screwed and gets worse and worse and worse.

The command was to make her fall in love with him, without any duration set on it. That means she could potentially fall out of love with him, like with 'fleeting love'. Of course it could also mean forever, but it hasn't been clarified. And by submitting to his requests, that means if she genuinely loved Sora, she would have accommodated him as well regardless since she has no actual obligation to do anything for him. All she has are urges to support him because that's what her view on love is. Compare it to a yandere's love which could involve decapitation or imprisonment and whatnot.

And Sora completely outwitted her—that's what mind games are. Duping, deception, and stratagems are all contests of wit. She even knew she was being toyed with, just not how. Sora and Shiro, who weren't even born in her world, were able to outwit her with basic wording choice. She by all means had every opportunity to make better conditions for herself but was too narrow-minded and prideful, which is part of why her kingdom was forced into the situation it is.

All in all, I like how the author handled it. I don't view it as inhumane either.

XFire

2013-07-15, 22:37

Certainly, if the princess had won she would have had the power to command the two main characters however she pleased. However the main character was the one who instigated the game, negotiated the terms, and determined the bet.

Sora's grand strategy involved duping the princess not outwitting her. Everything revolved around conditions which were not what they seemed. Sora won as soon as she agreed and everything before that was reversible. So, I don't think that it's justifiable to say that the main characters were up against it and that this was their only option.

My primary complaint is not that this happened, but that it is trivialized and trivialized in a particularly malicious manner. You see, normally when we want to cast something dark in a whiter light we do so by hiding the questionable aspects.

If a bad guy were to be gunned down he would be 'defeated', and we would avoid things like the impact to his family, the fact that his neighbor will starve without him, his frustration, or the excruciating pain that often accompanies a less than instantaneous death. In short, we avoid empathizing with the bad guy because he's the bad guy.

By contrast, the princess is the most human character in the entire manga thus far and we go through the enslavement episode primarily from her perspective. This manga is holding up those darker aspects and giggling.

"Isn't it too adorable the way he writhes in pain? I bet the family will starve- that's just totes delish."

(not to attack you personally XFire, I appreciate your input)

Um, I'm not sure we are reading the same manga. There was no enslavement. In fact, the princess herself says she was lucky he said that instead of forcing her to support him, like what she wanted to do.

She is completely conscious of what is going on, hence why she starts hitting herself over the head when she accidentally goes all melty on him. And she kicked him in the face when he went to far, meaning she isn't helpless.

And Sora doesn't seem to actually understand what just happened, or otherwise he is psychologically incapable of taking advantage of it.

Also, this story operates under a different of rules than our world. I'm not coping out, don't give me that look. The princess intended to use a victory to control him, and was perfectly aware the opposite would happen if she lost.

I think what happened with you was that you assumed that "fall in love" meant she lost all free will, which she hasn't. And to put in a minor spoiler
Sora takes back her kingdom for her.

J4n1

2013-07-16, 01:37

Well, the manga chapters seem interesting, so will be keeping an eye out for LN translations.
It's hilarious (and kinda disturbing), how the siblings go from confident, capable and arrogant into complete and total wrecks simply from being separated and having a wall between them.

XFire

2013-07-16, 01:47

OtakuFreak88

2013-07-27, 16:04

I think the mind control thing is really disturbing. Intruding on someone's free will is inherently violating but it can be used in interesting ways. However, moral complexity and depth of character aren't really this author's cup of tea. Instead he, or she, seems content to generate a moe kyun kyun fucktoy and leave it at that.

Even more oddly, the manga revels in the princess's bondage. It takes great pains to illustrate the extent to which not only her mentality but her sexuality has been enslaved. The female lead even acknowledges that this is a human rights violation, but it's apparently the victim's fault- 'cause she was too gullible.

Really the female lead is right, the princess was lucky to get out of that game with her life. How can we hold this against the main characters? They're practically gods overflowing with generosity and charity.

To be honest, although the princess is forced to fall in love with Sora, it does not seems like she's under mind control, as she's struggling to refuse his demands. If you were to ask me, I think she does not mind it at all, maybe a Tsundere?! I can smell harem in the air. The main protagonist looks like innocent pervert, a common character setting for most harem kings. :)

Guy Incognito

2013-07-27, 16:21

To be honest, although the princess is forced to fall in love with Sora, it does not seems like she's under mind control, as she's struggling to refuse his demands. If you were to ask me, I think she does not mind it at all, maybe a Tsundere?! I can smell harem in the air. The main protagonist looks like innocent pervert, a common character setting for most harem kings. :)there was nothing innocent about what he did

XFire

2013-07-27, 21:44

there was nothing innocent about what he did

Oh, for the love of......

I just re-read both the novel and manga versions. Let me explain (not justify) what he did.

Conditions for Steph victory: Beat Sora regularly, use same hand if he uses something other than paper

Conditions for Sora victory: Beat Steph with paper

Conditions for tie: Sora wins but doesn't use paper.

If Steph wins: Sora has to do whatever she wants, no limits

If Sora wins: Steph has to do whatever he wants, no limits

If a tie: Sora reveals cheat, Steph obeys trivial wish

The only thing Sora tricked her on was what a "trivial wish" implied. In other words, she carried the same risk regardless of loss or tie. The only thing she didn't know was that her chances were lower than expected. Other than that she knew exactly what was being bet.

If Sora had lost he'd have been her slave. If she lost, she thought she would be enslaved. Instead she has an abnormal amount of affection that she can still fight against. Is it creepy? Yes. Is it better than what would have happened if it had gone her way? Yes. Will any of this change your mind? Probably not.

Guy Incognito

2013-07-27, 22:15

Oh, for the love of......

I just re-read both the novel and manga versions. Let me explain (not justify) what he did.

Conditions for Steph victory: Beat Sora regularly, use same hand if he uses something other than paper

Conditions for Sora victory: Beat Steph with paper

Conditions for tie: Sora wins but doesn't use paper.

If Steph wins: Sora has to do whatever she wants, no limits

If Sora wins: Steph has to do whatever he wants, no limits

If a tie: Sora reveals cheat, Steph obeys trivial wish
The only thing Sora tricked her on was what a "trivial wish" implied. In other words, she carried the same risk regardless of loss or tie. The only thing she didn't know was that her chances were lower than expected. Other than that she knew exactly what was being bet.

If Sora had lost he'd have been her slave. If she lost, she thought she would be enslaved. Instead she has an abnormal amount of affection that she can still fight against. Is it creepy? Yes. Is it better than what would have happened if it had gone her way? Yes. Will any of this change your mind? Probably not.chill dude i am just saying hes not 100 percent innocent. he did tick and molest her in a joking way

XFire

2013-07-27, 22:30

chill dude i am just saying hes not 100 percent innocent. he did tick and molest her in a joking way

Yeah, sorry. I just remembered how this topic got out of hand last time and figured I'd try and nip it in the bud. Didn't mean to explode like that.

Valky

2013-07-27, 22:57

Is it just me, or this LN got itself an anime adaptation?

https://twitter.com/comic_alive/status/361324201417777153

Mura

2013-07-27, 23:49

You would be correct. How many volumes are out right now?

cloud04

2013-07-27, 23:55

for ngnl should be 4 vol

Mura

2013-07-27, 23:56

I see, I think Date a Live only had four volumes out when it was first announced so its not too bad.

cloud04

2013-07-28, 00:23

I see, I think Date a Live only had four volumes out when it was first announced so its not too bad.

nope DAL anime was announced when vol 3 just finished thats why it took like what 1 year+ before the anime got out

Valky

2013-07-28, 00:34

Right, it was 3 volume. But they already made anime announcement and game (soon after) on the way. They really did go all out there.

No Game No Life, I didn't read the LN since my japanese still suck, my friend did and he said it's pretty good, so yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

cloud04

2013-07-28, 00:37

OtakuFreak88

2013-07-28, 01:04

Is it just me, or this LN got itself an anime adaptation?

https://twitter.com/comic_alive/status/361324201417777153

YEEEAHHH, IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED. ANIME ANIME, THIS GREAT SERIES DESERVES IT.

here's the PV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7lyVAJNQo

blackwhite67

2013-07-28, 19:13

This is going to be interesting. I have to confess that of all the series I follow, this was last one I ever thought would ever get an anime adaptation. PV was prett hardcore. I wonder if the fact that they included the covers of the first 3 volumes is a hint that they'll cover them in the anime?

cloud04

2013-07-28, 22:11

seems this one is gonna be the 1st
http://seventhstyle.com/2013/07/28/no-game-no-life-stays-beautiful-in-anime-form/
having anime visuals out already

Valky

2013-07-29, 01:25

It's pretty, colorful is indeed the most fitting word for it. It has some silver-link-y vibe to it, btw ..

kan-chan

2013-07-29, 01:47

How much ecchi there is in this serie?. I usually don't like it, expecially if there is too much, but it depend on how much it is.

OtakuFreak88

2013-07-30, 00:14

How much ecchi there is in this serie?. I usually don't like it, expecially if there is too much, but it depend on how much it is.

It's overflowing with sex scenes, and the MC is a shameless pervert; he even tried to rape a girl.

DoomCalibur

2013-07-30, 00:49

It's overflowing with sex scenes, and the MC is a shameless pervert; he even tried to rape a girl.

Any examples? I would be grateful if you provided me some...

kan-chan

2013-07-30, 03:38

It's overflowing with sex scenes, and the MC is a shameless pervert; he even tried to rape a girl.

Thanks for the answer...well maybe this novel isn't exactly my cup of tea :) I'll give it a try after Kokoro connect and the others I'm reading. Even if I'm not a big fun of ecchi stuff I've found some novels with a bit of ecchi really fun :p

OtakuFreak88

2013-07-30, 05:39

Any examples? I would be grateful if you provided me some...

Thanks for the answer...well maybe this novel isn't exactly my cup of tea :) I'll give it a try after Kokoro connect and the others I'm reading. Even if I'm not a big fun of ecchi stuff I've found some novels with a bit of ecchi really fun :p

Can't you realize that it was sarcastic..?

kan-chan

2013-07-30, 06:03

Can't you realize that it was sarcastic..?

No sorry because there are a lot of really super ecchi novel out there. So I've taken your answer as carved in stone:). (the truth is I'm really scared about unespected ecchi popping out everywere :D)
Anyway It's seems this novel isn't so stuffed with ecchi, so it crawled up some places in my wish list (again after Kokoro connect a some other :D), helped by the fact that a lot of them are in waiting of new volumes.

J4n1

2013-07-30, 13:01

Can't you realize that it was sarcastic..?

Was there any reason to assume it was sarcastic? :confused:

OtakuFreak88

2013-07-30, 14:58

No sorry because there are a lot of really super ecchi novel out there. So I've taken your answer as carved in stone:). (the truth is I'm really scared about unespected ecchi popping out everywere :D)
Anyway It's seems this novel isn't so stuffed with ecchi, so it crawled up some places in my wish list (again after Kokoro connect a some other :D), helped by the fact that a lot of them are in waiting of new volumes.

Was there any reason to assume it was sarcastic? :confused:

C'mon, did you really believe in what I had written?Ok, but jokes aside what I wrote was bit exaggerated(still the fact that he tried to rape isn't that far from truth, nevertheless he's not bad at all), besides, I don't really think ecchi stuff would become any hindrance as long the story has a good plot. Well, theres hardly any LN now which doen't contain ecchi or romance tag, so I dunno how do you want to find a decent ecchi-free one.:p

J4n1

2013-07-31, 01:30

There is no tone on the internet, and the series is new enough for people to have no clue of it.
So no, can't see why someone who comes to ask a question could be expected to know if you are telling truth or being sarcastic.

kan-chan

2013-07-31, 04:23

C'mon, did you really believe in what I had written?Ok, but jokes aside what I wrote was bit exaggerated(still the fact that he tried to rape isn't that far from truth, nevertheless he's not bad at all), besides, I don't really think ecchi stuff would become any hindrance as long the story has a good plot. Well, theres hardly any LN now which doen't contain ecchi or romance tag, so I dunno how do you want to find a decent ecchi-free one.:p

Well you're right ecchi (and slash) stuff is almost everywhere. The plot is the very central point in novel/manga/anime but I'm a little tired to see female underwear, exagerate bobs (maybe I'm just scared thinking what could happen to them as the years pile up decade after decade :p),and sugar drooling cuteness popping out everywhere expecially where there isn't a strong or interesting plot.

Well this novel is slowly climbing my wish list...now I'm courious to know:D

But I think we are going out of topic here so I'm going to ask more pertinet questions
Are there phisical combat ( not only in virtual/game life), with realk weapons ( not only magic stuff)?
are there romance, well there is , how much? Just Siscon and Brothercon ?
Some drama?
Funny pieces?
extra cool (and a little annoying character)?

TJP1600

2013-07-31, 04:32

Seitsuki

2013-07-31, 04:42

Can anyone who's read further tell me if SoraxShiro is a thing? Or is it Steph? Or do more characters appear and it turns into another harem cluster****?

larethian

2013-07-31, 05:18

LOL LOL LOL
@OtakuFreak88 I really thought you were a troll from that 'first' post :heh:

Well you're right ecchi (and slash) stuff is almost everywhere. The plot is the very central point in novel/manga/anime but I'm a little tired to see female underwear, exagerate bobs (maybe I'm just scared thinking what could happen to them as the years pile up decade after decade :p),and sugar drooling cuteness popping out everywhere expecially where there isn't a strong or interesting plot.

Well this novel is slowly climbing my wish list...now I'm courious to know:D

But I think we are going out of topic here so I'm going to ask more pertinet questions
Are there phisical combat ( not only in virtual/game life), with realk weapons ( not only magic stuff)?
are there romance, well there is , how much? Just Siscon and Brothercon ?
Some drama?
Funny pieces?
extra cool (and a little annoying character)?
There's some really ecchi scenes, but ecchi is not central to the story at all. To me, they are more like comedic relief and teasing the readers. I can imagine the manga to be very lewd looking since the color pages of the novel are (and drawn by same person who is also the author and thus able to perfectly reproduce what he had envisioned :heh:) There's some groping and teasing and stuff but not really that abundant.

As a matter of fact, there are parts with lots of dialogue and one of the things that the Japanese fans fear for the anime adaptation is the amount of talking involved.

This is not virtual game like SAO, it's more mind games and logic and reasoning and psychology. After all, the protagonists are physically weak, and in the world they are in right now, bloodshed is pretty much not allowed, all battles and disputes must be decided with games. In fact, everything can be wagered and decided by games.

The protags are geniuses in their original world (which is equal to our world), and it's due to their 'traumatic' past they became game addicts and society-impaired. The brother is a genius gamer in his own way but most of all, he's a genius in reading people, predicting future through reading ahead, play with people's minds, baiting, and the tactician of the pair (but he's supposedly a dunce in romance). The sister is the real gaming genius; she's a pure genius with super-intellect, can grasp concepts easily and have beyond-human computational capability.

That's all the time I have to post for now. :heh:

blackwhite67

2013-07-31, 09:31

Can anyone who's read further tell me if SoraxShiro is a thing? Or is it Steph? Or do more characters appear and it turns into another harem cluster****?

Harem cluster. The first representative he defeated fell heads over heels for him and if the novel covers are anything to go by, then all the other representatives are female, too. Definitely harem.

OtakuFreak88

2013-07-31, 12:14

While I was thinking about Sora x Steph's reliationship, an image of Misui x Misaki from Kaichou wa Maid-sama came to my mind; just drop the shoujo and you will have one of the most awesome pairings. Or, you can add harem, and get even more awesome harem. Btw, I think Sora likes to tease Steph, somehow I find it appealing

kan-chan

2013-08-01, 03:11

LOL LOL LOL
@OtakuFreak88 I really thought you were a troll from that 'first' post :heh:

[...]

The protags are geniuses in their original world (which is equal to our world), and it's due to their 'traumatic' past they became game addicts and society-impaired. The brother is a genius gamer in his own way but most of all, he's a genius in reading people, predicting future through reading ahead, play with people's minds, baiting, and the tactician of the pair (but he's supposedly a dunce in romance). The sister is the real gaming genius; she's a pure genius with super-intellect, can grasp concepts easily and have beyond-human computational capability.

That's all the time I have to post for now. :heh:

Thank you! Now I've a more clear idea of this novel. I like mind games even if I'm not that great solver...:blush:
These two different type of genius are quite interesting, expecially the brother's one. But I think we'll see the two type interact during the novel. Well I'm definitively going to read the teaser and drop comment. Waiting for more chapters
Thanks

kuroishinigami

2013-08-01, 04:05

The protags are geniuses in their original world (which is equal to our world), and it's due to their 'traumatic' past they became game addicts and society-impaired. The brother is a genius gamer in his own way but most of all, he's a genius in reading people, predicting future through reading ahead, play with people's minds, baiting, and the tactician of the pair (but he's supposedly a dunce in romance). The sister is the real gaming genius; she's a pure genius with super-intellect, can grasp concepts easily and have beyond-human computational capability.

That's all the time I have to post for now. :heh:

Correction, the brother is not a genius at all, his sister is. Due to his "normal"ness, he was stamped by the adults and peers with the useless mark, which is why he learn how to read other people to not anger them and become extremely good at it. His genius sister OTOH, is too much of a genius and invite envy because of it and suffers from heavy bullying, which is why the two of them are broken, one cannot exist without the other.

larethian

2013-08-01, 05:11

Correction, the brother is not a genius at all, his sister is. Due to his "normal"ness, he was stamped by the adults and peers with the useless mark, which is why he learn how to read other people to not anger them and become extremely good at it. His genius sister OTOH, is too much of a genius and invite envy because of it and suffers from heavy bullying, which is why the two of them are broken, one cannot exist without the other.

Hmm, that's why I say 'in his own way'. Wasn't he labeled as 'normal' by the people around him because of his bad academic results?
I would see him as a genius in his own way for the feats he's performing, especially with respect to his foresight which is pretty much seer-level :heh:

To draw a parallel, Einstein was also labeled dumb in school. Later in life, he came up with the theory of relativity, but the funny thing was that his math was so bad that he couldn't get the equations right and got 2 skilled mathematicians (or physicists? I can't remember) to help him out. He thought up the theory but couldn't get it down in math as a physicist. Now, will that be labeled as genius or dumb? :heh:

That's why I call Sora 'a genius gamer in his own way'. Of course, Shiro would be on a completely different level with regards to raw brain power. :heh:

waffler

2013-08-02, 03:02

Umm in the chess game sora call kurami a prostitute... is that true? if it is that would feel creepy :o

for3ver

2013-08-02, 03:21

Hmm, that's why I say 'in his own way'. Wasn't he labeled as 'normal' by the people around him because of his bad academic results?
I would see him as a genius in his own way for the feats he's performing, especially with respect to his foresight which is pretty much seer-level :heh:

To draw a parallel, Einstein was also labeled dumb in school. Later in life, he came up with the theory of relativity, but the funny thing was that his math was so bad that he couldn't get the equations right and got 2 skilled mathematicians (or physicists? I can't remember) to help him out. He thought up the theory but couldn't get it down in math as a physicist. Now, will that be labeled as genius or dumb? :heh:

That's why I call Sora 'a genius gamer in his own way'. Of course, Shiro would be on a completely different level with regards to raw brain power. :heh:

didnt Time magazine debunk that rumor?

larethian

2013-08-02, 04:31

didnt Time magazine debunk that rumor?

It seems that you may be right. Though I believe it was based on historian's findings rather than the magazine itself.

Anyway my point was that a person who's labeled by society as dumb could have aptitudes in other areas and succeed in that area in a way no one or few could duplicate. Whether one will call that as a 'genius in his own right' could be subjective though. :)

XFire

2013-08-02, 09:43

Umm in the chess game sora call kurami a prostitute... is that true? if it is that would feel creepy :o

He's insulting her.

OtakuFreak88

2013-08-03, 01:14

Umm in the chess game sora call kurami a prostitute... is that true? if it is that would feel creepy :o

It's quite common to call somebody by bitch/whore at least in anime. If you ask me, prostitute and bitch are no different, so normal.

shadow1296

2013-08-07, 11:39

anyone know whose the angel that appears in the illustrations in volume 2?

mike211

2013-08-19, 08:42

Could some clarity if the brother and sister are blood related or are they step sibling?

Well I would start reading once vol 1 is competed, till then I read my other titles.

Waxman

2013-08-19, 12:10

They are step siblings but has been together since long time

shadow1296

2013-08-19, 13:35

chapter 4 of vol. 1 is now translated at baka-tsuki

mike211

2013-08-20, 03:48

Thank for answering, some how I knew they ain't blood related.

Seitsuki

2013-08-20, 04:15

Would it make a difference? They're obviously the OTP, harem be damned.

kuroishinigami

2013-08-20, 05:00

What seitsuki said. They literally couldn't live without each other lol.

larethian

2013-08-20, 05:36

Would it make a difference? They're obviously the OTP, harem be damned.

This is purely speculation, but I think having a harem is a requirement in MF books. Someone tell me a MF title that has none.

Seitsuki

2013-08-20, 06:24

And it's an utter tragedy. What started all this mainstream harem rubbish? IS? Stuff like Aria also started coming out around that time iirc.

larethian

2013-08-20, 06:33

And it's an utter tragedy. What started all this mainstream harem rubbish? IS? Stuff like Aria also started coming out around that time iirc.

No it's MF. If you don't want to write a harem, just go to another publisher. Dengeki, Fujimi, Sneaker, Famitsu, etc. etc. have non-harem titles. Now, where's that MF book that has no harem, anyone? :heh:

Seitsuki

2013-08-20, 06:40

Apparently they did Voices of a Distant Star. In 2002.

iamadooddood

2013-08-20, 09:42

No it's MF. If you don't want to write a harem, just go to another publisher. Dengeki, Fujimi, Sneaker, Famitsu, etc. etc. have non-harem titles. Now, where's that MF book that has no harem, anyone? :heh:

IS refers to Infinite Stratos, which was formerly under MF.

I heard MF published a light novel adaptation of Girls und Panzer? Also, Gun Princess is another MF light novel, and I don't think it's a harem.

Well anyway the guy has decided against the step-siblings route, last I checked?

Waxman

2013-08-20, 12:09

Well, he is against it but the 11 little sister has remarked a couple of times "only seven years more" after certain events, and given their dependence on each other is difficult to rule the posibility altogether

mike211

2013-09-01, 07:51

I just started reading this and liking what i read by the minutes.

The sibling must have a horrible past to shut down like that when they ain't near each other.

*edit*
I just finish reading vol 1 and what can I say other than WHAT A EPIC CHESS MATCH.

watisit

2013-09-05, 09:16

anyone know whose the angel that appears in the illustrations in volume 2?

She's called "Gibrelle".

She's holed up in the library located near the capital. She won that library from the previous king. Sora and co challenge her to a shiritori (word chain) game to try and win over the library and her. She's also one of the council of 18 (Seraph) who rules over her race.

And about the game they played
Starting off with a hydrogen bomb and causing a hypernova at the end, whoa

If Sora and co ever get a computer with touhou on it they can use that for defensive battles, i don't think they will ever be beaten

Breimoon

2013-09-05, 15:49

well, they do have pc but i don't think they will use it in games. They want hard games.

waffler

2013-09-05, 21:56

i am assuming the koreans did not stand a chance against them in starcraft either

Breimoon

2013-09-06, 03:55

well, in a mmorpg they used 4 chara against 100 who even used cheats(sorry if wrong numbers, 2 lazy to check) so i think in starcraft they could own everyone in a 1 vs all battle xD

Chirst

2013-10-09, 09:19

I just received a good news. my local publishing company just got the LC of no game no life
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1098328_632231496797030_1902088109_n.jpg

whitecloud

2013-10-09, 10:47

(shameless mode on)Translate it for us.....my good man..hehehe....or at least give us some summary...

iamadooddood

2013-10-09, 12:04

I just received a good news. my local publishing company just got the LC of no game no life
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1098328_632231496797030_1902088109_n.jpg

Nice.

I wish there'd be more English translations of light novels though...

watisit

2013-10-09, 21:52

(shameless mode on)Translate it for us.....my good man..hehehe....or at least give us some summary...

If you want a summary i'll give you a rough one, emphasis on the games

Shiro and Sora together form the legendary gamer "Kouhaku" (blank/void). They were invited to a world where everything is decided by games. There are 16 species and humanity (Imanity) is no 16. They ended up near Imanity's capital. There they find that the throne of humanity is up for grabs since the last king decided to leave his throne to "the strongest gambler" instead of his own granddaughter.

They happen to witness that granddaughter (Stephanie Dora) playing cards with a girl called Kurami, though they didn't know she was the princess at that time. Sora whispered that she was being cheated and left. Later that day, the defeated Steph came into their room to try to get an explanation on how they knew Kurami was cheating.

Sora suggested a Janken showdown. If he won, Steph would have to do anything he wants. If he lost, he would do anything Steph wants. And in the case of a draw, Sora would offer a hint on how he found out about the cheating while Steph would grant a little request of his. Also, if Sora played anything other than paper, he would lose. If he beat Steph with anything other than paper, by the previous condition, he would lose, yet since Steph had also lost, it would result in a draw. The result, Steph played scissors, Sora played rock.

Sora had been deceiving Steph into thinking that "Rock was the only way i can lose, therefore I should not play rock. However, he can only win with paper, he can only lose or draw if he's lucky with the others so he'll definitely play it"

And then Sora revealed that his "trivial wish" was not accommodation as she thought. In fact he did not actually state what it was. He merely said that accommodations was a problem, but not that he wanted it as the prize of the wager. Then Sora made his wish "Fall in love with me!"

Later, right before Kurami was about to be crowned, they interrupted the ceremony and challenged Kurami. They also revealed that Kurami was working with the elves and caused elf who was hiding among the crowd to be kicked out. Kurami chose the game to be chess, but the pieces have their own wills. Shiro and Sora are white, Kurami is black.

Shiro was the first to play, but then she quickly found out that she could not sacrifice pieces as in normal chess and gradually she lost all her methods of winning. Sora then took over and said that it was a RTS game, not a chess game. He then gave a rousing speech whose basis was entirely on lust to inspire the pieces. He also revealed that turns meant nothing and there was no need to wait for the opponents move as in chess. He also convinced an enemy pawn to self-destruct before it could take one of his bishops.

However, it was soon revealed one of the cheats was "forced brainwashing" where any of his troops that got too close they would be converted to Kurami's side. He was forced to pull back his pieces. Kurami sent her queen to crush Sora but Sora managed to convert her over with his words. When Kurami tried to command a knight to kill the converted queen, that knight converted too. Sora then turned the queen into an independent power, saying that the Kurami's king was a madman and that she should be the new ruler instead. The queen piece turned red, along with several other black pieces. Kurami tried to command all her pieces to attack but most of them turned red. Then it seemed that even stronger magic had been used to make the black pieces try to kill everything in front of them.

At this time, the black king split apart and crumbled. The logic was that tyrants can only succeed if they continue to win. If they lost, even once, they would be killed, by assassination, someone who is not in the army, which was what happened. The battle ended in Kurami's loss.

After Sora and Shiro's coronation, Tet came to visit. There Sora deduced that even the throne of god was up for grabs in a game, and that the right to challenge god can be gathered by conquering all 16 races in the world.
Sora and Shiro found out that there was a member of no 6, the winged race living in a library at the outskirts of the city. She won the library from the previous king. Sora and co challenge her with her entire existence, and Sora's tablet PC with all the information on it at stake. The game is shiritori, word chain. It occurs in an artificial dimension and if something with the word exists, it will disappear. If it didn't, it will materialize.

Sora started off with a hydrogen bomb which Giberelle blocked with her magic. A bit of comedy ensues and Sora takes away Giberelle's magic pathways. Then the endgame.

Sora: Lithosphere (causing the crust and outer core to disappear)
Gib: Morning (the sun disappears)
Sora: Oxygen (Oxygen disappears. Giberelle thinks that "air" has been erased, oxygen is just another word for "air")
Gib: Air (Oxygen reappears, but all other gases are gone. Giberelle thought she would show mercy so that Sora could show off even more things. She didn't know that air is made up of different gases. She then takes a deep breath of pure oxygen when she exclaimed "why!?". For those who don't know, pure oxygen is poisonous. Sora and Shiro keep their mouths together to create a kind of sealed environment so that they can breathe)
Sora: Atmosphere (Before they said this, they exhaled all the air they have. Since all the air was erased, if they had any in their bodies it would create a vacuum in their bodies, rupturing their organs)
Gib: Weak
Sora: Coulomb's force, electrostatic force (Well, screw the exact physics but long story short, it caused a nuclear reaction that created a supernova. This finished off Giberelle, making it Sora's victory)

So Giberelle joins Sora and co. Sora then sets his sight on the werebeasts, no 14 and currently controlling much of Imanity's former countries. Sora finds out that one of the conditions of the werebeasts' game was that "all memories related to the game will be erased". This was to help make the game a sure-win for the werebeasts. Nobody (including Giberelle) ever won any game with them and for the past decade, except for one kingdom, nobody challenged the werebeasts to a game. That one kingdom was Imanity and the challenger was Steph's grandfather.

It turns out that the condition as actually "Cannot tell anybody while alive", as such, the previous king wrote a book to be left to the next king after he died and this book went to Sora and Shiro. There they found out what the game was. An electronic virtual reality game, which means all magic is useless so the species with the highest physical capabilities, the werebeasts, have an advantage in. Also they can freely use cheats. Sora and co go to the nearest embassy and challenge them with all of the werebeasts' land on the continent as a stake. The werebeasts have to erase Sora's memory no matter what.

However, since Sora had bet Steph's underwear, they would be proving Sora correct. Hence they cannot accept the bet. Then Sora bet "Imanity's chess piece". Each species has its own chess piece and to own it is to own all the rights of the species. This is nothing trivial and now the werebeasts could accept the bet safely and throw in the condition of wiping Sora and co's memories. The vol ends with Sora and co leaving while the embassy goes to get the approval of the Werebeasts' leader, somebody called "Miko", priestess. The game would be 4vs1, Sora and co vs Izuna, the ambassador. Also apparently Sora is waiting for another person to show up to complete his plan against the werebeasts.

The vol begins with Shiro waking up alone in the King's bedroom. She panics, trying to find Sora. However, both Steph and Giberelle deny Sora ever existed. Gradually they begin to figure out that their memories were erased, not by losing a game, but by the rules of the game which they are currently in. Then they notice the Othello board and figure out the game is Othello.

Rules:
1) The players' souls/memories are split into 32 pieces each.
2) The pieces are numbered 1-32, the smaller the number the more precious the memory
3) When the piece is captured, the memory in it is transferred over to the one who captured it.
4) Passes are not allowed

Stakes:
1) The effects of the game are permanent
2) The memories can be altered after the game has been settled.

Sora set up rule no 4 so that Shiro can easily predict how the game went and reverse it when he lost. At the start he had only 3 pieces left. His 4th piece was his own existence, which was why Giberelle and Steph could not recognize him. His top three pieces, 3:How to win, 2: Absolute trust in Shiro, 1: Shiro's existence. Shiro turned the match over with those 3 pieces and the game ended in Sora's victory. And so Kurami joined Sora and co as a double spy against the elves.

Now for the game with the werebeasts. Kurami followed the rest of Imanity to the game. The werebeasts noticed Kurami because of the magic cast on her, which allowed Fii (the elf with Kurami) to observe things through her eyes. The werebeasts know that they cannot pull anything too strange or their cheats would be seen and reported back to the elves. However, Izuna still receive information through high frequency noise which only werebeasts can make and hear.

The game is a love-shooting game. Shooting NPC with the bullets will cause them to disappear and charge the love-meter (an energy gauge). Shooting players will cause them to fall in love with the shooter. Izuna has to shoot all 4 people while Sora and co has to shoot just Izuna. Also, upon being shot, players will be unconscious/uncontrollable for a short moment

The game was won with the help of Steph. In vol 2 she had made a bet about the pigeon flying and lost (this is in baka already) but the order was not decided. Sora used this to order Steph to do the following, while in a depleted state cling on to the back of an NPC and 10 seconds after receiving a recharge, which will be shot by the other 3 and to forget this order was ever given. With this she makes no noise as she's on an NPC, has no killing intent since her memory is gone, and isn't even conscious since she's been shot. However by the Ten Oaths she will still pull the trigger. This caused Izuna to be totally caught unawares and shot.

Before the game started, the werebeasts had moved all their people and technology off the continent. Since the deal was only "For everything the werebeasts own on the continent", all the technology and knowledge needed to make full use of the land had been taken. Sora and co were called to the capital of the werebeasts.

The werebeasts are in trouble. Their game had been revealed. The game being revealed to the elves wasn't a problem, Miko had guessed that Sora and Shiro were from the elves. However they were actually from another world. If they were from the elves, the information would have just been kept by the elves. But since Sora and Shiro were not, they could through Giberelle spread the information on the game to the winged race. This is the worst case scenario possible for them. Out of elves, winged, and humans, the only race the werebeasts had any chance of winning against is the humans. So Miko challenged Sora to a game, with the protection of the werebeasts' rights, self governance and access to the resources on the continent as reward, for Sora, it's the swallowing of the Eastern Union. Sora chose the game to be coin toss. He then moved the stones on the pavement such that the coin is edged in between, a draw. He then proposed that while the werebeasts go under the custody of humans　but all their rights, self governance will be guaranteed and they get access to the resources, in short a federation. The Miko accepts. Sora and Shiro stay in the capital to finalize the details (and play around) while they send Steph back to take care of the paperwork.
Will continue the other volumes later.

Kioras

2013-10-09, 22:03

Well baka-tsuki has volume 1 translated, ans the prologue and chapter 1 of the second volume, so it is being worked.

Thanks for the summary though.

watisit

2013-10-10, 09:05

Well baka-tsuki has volume 1 translated, ans the prologue and chapter 1 of the second volume, so it is being worked.

Thanks for the summary though.

Good luck with vol 3 since all the raws i could find had missing pages in them.

Yami no Ou

2013-10-10, 17:58

thanks for your summary my good friend

sasuke706

2013-10-10, 18:13

Good luck with vol 3 since all the raws i could find had missing pages in them.
The full version's around. Or at least the one I located has every page going by a quick skim.

Breimoon

2013-10-11, 08:37

thank for sumary.

Breimoon

2013-11-28, 09:16

new translated ch came out
.

chadrew

2013-12-06, 16:42

That was awesome. I really want to see this animated or officially released in English.

I just hope the eventual anime will have high quality fanservice (like, say, Bakemonogatari), not some cliche big boobs going "boing" crap :heh:

kagato3

2013-12-19, 06:09

Nice little tidbit in volume 2. Nothing about Steph's comand to love Sora should actually keep her in love with him. So aside from the first few minutes everything else are Steph's feelings

stellarroze

2013-12-22, 16:15

Nanodesu is translating the No Game No Life novels now :D - http://ngnlthetranslation.wordpress.com/ .

kagato3

2013-12-22, 16:38

Wonder if they know all of volume 1 and agood chunk of volume 2 has all ready been translated?

Breimoon

2013-12-22, 17:10

let's hope they pick up the non translated parts.......... or they get into contact with the translator on bakatsuki and share their work

Seitsuki

2013-12-22, 17:12

If you read the intro, he says that he's aware of the BT TL but is doing it again because he wants to write his own interpretation.

Breimoon

2013-12-22, 17:17

just started reading it , let's just see how things are going for the moment. Since i can't read jap/chin/korean i don't know if translations are right or not so i'm just gonna trust him on it.

Kazu-kun

2013-12-28, 16:29

Nothing about Steph's comand to love Sora should actually keep her in love with him. So aside from the first few minutes everything else are Steph's feelings

What's so noteworthy about a haremette having feelings for the MC? That's what haremettes are there for, right?

kagato3

2013-12-28, 20:31

What's so noteworthy about a haremette having feelings for the MC? That's what haremettes are there for, right?

Some people here were making a big deal about the whole love thing acting as if it was pretty much mind control. Volume 2 pretty much states that the wording would mean she would only have been forced to love him for an instant meaning that everythkng she has been doing is of her own free will.

Kazu-kun

2013-12-28, 22:06

Some people here were making a big deal about the whole love thing acting as if it was pretty much mind control.

Which is nonsensical, considering it's a harem LN. After course her love would be real. Or as real as love can be in a harem LN. :heh:

Miraluka

2013-12-28, 23:37

Love is a real as be it yuri, yaoi, harem, shonen, all of that it's fictional anyway.

Zetsuen_no_Myuu

2013-12-29, 05:36

The best NEET male protag and hikikomori imouto. Also, Sora x Shiro, this purest form of love cannot be stopped.

I can't get enough of Shiro, especially the way she talks in 3rd person and acts towards Sora, in particular when she gets pouty. I...I want to take her home!

Kamiya's "adhering" to the loli ban (that's trying to get passed) is quite genius by stealthy giving it the middle finger in a you can have your cake and eat it too fashion. That bill has mostly only prompt many authors/artists in making more loli ecchi works, which is ironically amusing.

Kazu-kun

2013-12-29, 06:35

Love is a real as be it yuri, yaoi, harem, shonen, all of that it's fictional anyway.

Personally, I can't take romance in a harem setup seriously at all. I can't even think of haremettes as proper characters. To each their own I suppose.

Seitsuki

2013-12-29, 13:52

This is not a harem! I mean, we already have a king and queen... >___>

Shadow5YA

2013-12-29, 16:22

This is not a harem! I mean, we already have a king and queen... >___>

Some kings have concubines or support polygamy entirely.

omegasereon

2013-12-29, 23:48

The PV is out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqMCYf1FibU

nevilarus

2013-12-31, 05:20

Some people here were making a big deal about the whole love thing acting as if it was pretty much mind control. Volume 2 pretty much states that the wording would mean she would only have been forced to love him for an instant meaning that everythkng she has been doing is of her own free will.

Would you kindly tell me in which chapter (and which part too, if you don't mind) it was stated ? I belong to the minority that is disturbed by this..

Breimoon

2013-12-31, 06:13

the part where she wants Sora and Shiro to step down from the throne instead of asking to return normal i think

kagato3

2013-12-31, 09:15

Would you kindly tell me in which chapter (and which part too, if you don't mind) it was stated ? I belong to the minority that is disturbed by this..

Volume 2 chapter 3 end of part 1
"If the order had been for just a moment, then the effect should have lasted only a moment as well--yet despite not having been ordered to 'keep loving me', why is Dora-chan displaying more permanent, effects? Fufu, curious indeed."Smiling slyly, Jibril disappeared into the air.

nevilarus

2013-12-31, 13:30

Volume 2 chapter 3 end of part 1

Thank you. Well, it's just another kind of word play , not really convincing for me, but at least the author didn't let it slide :D

kagato3

2013-12-31, 14:25

Seitsuki

2013-12-31, 14:57

I can't believe any of you are in this for more than pure imouto love.

blackwhite67

2013-12-31, 14:58

I can't believe any of you are in this for more than pure imouto love.

Well, badass main characters are good too.

nevilarus

2013-12-31, 17:26

Basicly the rules work out to be exact words deals. All it ended up doing is giving her a very good first impression of him like so called love at first sight it wasn't forceing her to do anything for him.

you might have had a case with his bet that made Jibril into his property but her full on worshipping of him had nothing to do with the bet but in the fact she got everthing she had wanted for a win and the fact her new master was planing on defeteing TET one of her races reasons for being

So what is the exact meaning of the words? It depends on who interpreters it. Sora just said "fall in love with me" - a simple sentence without any additional information regarding time, quantity or quality. How did God decide it as momentary, temporary or permanent affection? By Sora's interpretation? By Dora's interpretation? Or his own interpretation? (suppose God is the one who force people to adhere to the rules) Even you has provided your own interpretation about the quantity and quality as well. ;) Here I think the author just force his own interpretation to make readers believe it's "true" love which is actually more convenient for the story. That's why I said "not really convincing".

I am sorry for being annoying, it's just I recalled the similar situation in Zero no Tsukaima when Louise and Saito were struggling with the fact that their attraction to each other may come from the binding contract between them, and they really took a lot of efforts to find their own answers. Therefore, a simple explanation as one in NGNL cannot satisfy me.

Or maybe I should be less serious :p

kagato3

2013-12-31, 21:28

So what is the exact meaning of the words? It depends on who interpreters it. Sora just said "fall in love with me" - a simple sentence without any additional information regarding time, quantity or quality. How did God decide it as momentary, temporary or permanent affection? By Sora's interpretation? By Dora's interpretation? Or his own interpretation? (suppose God is the one who force people to adhere to the rules) Even you has provided your own interpretation about the quantity and quality as well. ;) Here I think the author just force his own interpretation to make readers believe it's "true" love which is actually more convenient for the story. That's why I said "not really convincing".

I am sorry for being annoying, it's just I recalled the similar situation in Zero no Tsukaima when Louise and Saito were struggling with the fact that their attraction to each other may come from the binding contract between them, and they really took a lot of efforts to find their own answers. Therefore, a simple explanation as one in NGNL cannot satisfy me.

Or maybe I should be less serious :p

Ok you are not grasping what exact words (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExactWords) mean. basically as long as any possible interpretation of the wording is met the compulsion ends.

example lets change the bet to "cook for me" once Steph does the act of cooking (the result of which could be anything rangeing from a 5 star meal to charred shoe leather ) the bet has been fulfilled and she would no longer be compelled to cook for him.

what he requested from her was the act of falling in love with him once that happened nothing was keeping her in love with him beyond her own feelings (as Jibril notes to herself) . It also was in no way forcing her to do anything else for Sora.

takenashi

2014-01-05, 12:11

Seitsuki

2014-01-05, 12:59

He's Itsuten's illustrator, not author.

Mecasonic13

2014-01-05, 13:04

I have a big question: if this novels is Itsuka Tenma no Kuro Usagi's author why it says "yuu kamiya"? the author of Itsuka tenma no Kuro Usagi is Takaya Kagami ......i can't believe "Yuu Kamiya" is the author because he's from brazil...so i'm curious

This novel isn't written by ItsuTen's author but by its illustrator, so yes Yuu Kamiya is the author.

And I'm not sure why you can't believe it, considering that he has already written several manga before. I understand that it is rare for foreigners to be successful in the manga/light novel industry, but it's also not completely unheard of.

takenashi

2014-01-05, 13:10

This novel isn't written by ItsuTen's author but by its illustrator, so yes Yuu Kamiya is the author.

And I'm not sure why you can't believe it, considering that he has already written several manga before. I understand that it is rare for foreigners to be successful in the manga/light novel industry, but it's also not completely unheard of.

thanks for answering well i'm noticed now

Plant42

2014-01-13, 11:47

Here are all the BG images from the official site.

These are what the world of "Disboard" and Elchea look like.
So glad this serie got such a glorious setting artworks.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/560/phco.png

For the rest

http://imageshack.com/a/img9/5739/i3w5.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img801/3065/yxgq.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img560/571/phco.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img547/4336/ppps.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img844/9918/3qoi.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img560/4189/xszb.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img32/8629/oeie.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img36/4272/tpgo.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img826/2290/o0sp.png

DarkDooM

2014-01-13, 12:32

http://imageshack.com/a/img826/2290/o0sp.png

Haha~ that totally reminds me of "Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind"

And all those other images as well :love: Got a few nice new wallpapers with this :D

Breimoon

2014-01-13, 13:04

art wise it seems very nice, let's see if they will do a good anime

Plant42

2014-01-16, 12:36

Speaks about the giant crimson moon
There must be some twist or significance plot devices regarding that, when you considered this was written by Kamiya Yuu.

and also in vol.5

There is a line mentioned that the 13th race "Lunamana(Tsukuyomi race)" and "the Old Deus who created that thing" is on the crimson moon.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/9/i3w5.png

mike211

2014-03-07, 00:58

Birdway

2014-03-07, 09:00

Personally, I can't take romance in a harem setup seriously at all. I can't even think of haremettes as proper characters. To each their own I suppose.
If it's developed well then it's justified enough for it to be, better than some "romance" were all is left to the watchers imagination when in reality nothing happens

haseo0408

2014-03-07, 13:24

I guess you all heard by not that THIS LIGHT NOVEL is getting a anime adaptation, which is AWESOME!

Base on the perview posted by omegasereon, it look like the anime adaptation would cover 4 volumes.

Excuse me, I´m new in this thread and from what I read this light novel will get an anime nest month, how many episode is it going to be?. :confused:

BW95

2014-03-07, 14:09

Excuse me, I´m new in this thread and from what I read this light novel will get an anime nest month, how many episode is it going to be?. :confused:

Going by the previews, I think I saw at least 2 volumes worth of content maybe 3 so for now I'd say 1 cour.

Breimoon

2014-03-07, 14:39

it should be 12-13 episodes with 4 volumes animated.

haseo0408

2014-03-07, 18:12

Thanks BW-san and Brei-san, now I have an idea of what to expect.

takenashi

2014-03-12, 19:30

some screen-shot of the 1rst

http://moca-news.net/article/20140311/201403110000a/01/

rickiminato

2014-03-21, 21:26

the siblings have a special power or something else

BW95

2014-03-21, 21:31

OP is out!

fV7nGIUuyzA

questmas

2014-03-22, 00:37

OP is out!

fV7nGIUuyzA

looks great, anime of the decade incoming

omegasereon

2014-03-22, 00:46

OP is out!

fV7nGIUuyzA

Dang, can't wait till it airs! Looks sweet so far.

takenashi

2014-03-23, 00:08

aaah kami-sama i can't wait for it

AP24

2014-03-30, 04:59

The official anime website confirms that there are 12 episodes. Someone also has confirmed after seeing the name of "Episode 10" from Animedia magazine and from watching the new PV, that the anime will cover vol 1-3.

The cast is really interesting. Yoshitsugu Matsuoka voicing the main guy, another character whose hobby is games. The girls are voiced Ai Kayano, Yōko Hikasa, Yukari Tamura, Mamiko Noto, Yuka Iguchi, Miyuki Sawashiro and Rie Kugimiya. Most of them are famous for voicing moe/kawaii characters.

Breimoon

2014-03-30, 08:10

so 4 episodes each?? This is gonna be a good ride.

EvI

2014-03-30, 12:00

thanks for answering well i'm noticed now

and also yuu kamiya is brazillian which makes me proud, and jealous since he managed to do something i wished to do :D

damn i'm really curious about what happened with sora since he disappeared in volume 2 DD:

haseo0408

2014-04-02, 00:14

There is a girl named Jibril in the characters, from what I´ve read she´s a member of the sixth race but which race is that? Steph didn´t do good a job numbering all the races.

watisit

2014-04-02, 04:14

They are what we would call angels (of death). They were weapons made by one of the old gods to fight other gods. Their name is Freguel (or something like that), in kanji it's Heavenly Winged. And just FYI, there is a tremendous power difference between them and the no 7 race, the elves.

Ken Sanders

2014-04-02, 04:27

And they collect the heads of their victims as well. That is why Sora thought that they are Devils rather than Angels.

chadrew

2014-04-02, 20:32

Xacual

2014-04-02, 21:02

What's interesting is how their ranking / power doesn't really correspond to the amount of land they control. IIRC elves and "kemonomimi kingdom" have huge countries despite being ranked somewhat low.

Maybe it's just that the most powerful races don't care about things like land.

Wasn't it mentioned that Jibril's race's city is on top of the number 2 being Phantasma or however that's spelled. Also yeah Jibril's race doesn't care about territory since they don't need it.

Both the Elves and Beast people actually need land and resources to survive so they had a reason to go all out expanding their territory.

haseo0408

2014-04-03, 10:42

Wasn't it mentioned that Jibril's race's city is on top of the number 2 being Phantasma or however that's spelled. Also yeah Jibril's race doesn't care about territory since they don't need it.

Both the Elves and Beast people actually need land and resources to survive so they had a reason to go all out expanding their territory.

Oh my God! I wasn´t expecting that kind of back-story, how the hell they negociate with a race like that? they sound utterly insane to me.

kagato3

2014-04-03, 12:35

Tell them you are going to beat god and if you look like you can back up that boast they will just about worship you, Note that this may require destroying the universe..

haseo0408

2014-04-03, 12:46

Tell them you are going to beat god and if you look like you can back up that boast they will just about worship you, Note that this may require destroying the universe..

Nice! So you need to be almost as insane as them in order to have some sort of diplomatic relation, you got to love Disboad. But I don´t get something, if they were born to kill gods how does TET manage to make them obey the Ten Oaths, if they´re powerful enough to kill off gods then they could resist the power of the Ten Oaths and kill poor TET.

Awrya

2014-04-03, 13:02

Nice! So you need to be almost as insane as them in order to have some sort of diplomatic relation, you got to love Disboad. But I don´t get something, if they were born to kill gods how does TET manage to make them obey the Ten Oaths, if they´re powerful enough to kill off gods then they could resist the power of the Ten Oaths and kill poor TET.

I think you're confusing this with Campione or something, beating a god =/= killing a god and the siblings weren't born to kill gods.

haseo0408

2014-04-03, 13:08

I think you're confusing this with Campione or something, beating a god =/= killing a god and the siblings weren't born to kill gods.

I was Talking about Jibril´s race, they were born to fight gods so I was wondering the hell TET manage to make them obey the Ten Oaths since in theory they exist to resist beings like him.

Awrya

2014-04-03, 13:22

I was Talking about Jibril´s race, they were born to fight gods so I was wondering the hell TET manage to make them obey the Ten Oaths since in theory they exist to resist beings like him.
Since you were replying to kagato3 who was most likely referring to the siblings vs Jibril game, I thought you were also talking about the siblings. Misunderstood you, my bad.

Jibril mentioned they needed 200 to challenge a god, so it's safe to assume that while they had offensive might capable of damaging a god, their defensive capabilities were not up to par with a god's offensive might.
They had power in numbers, but just like how a single one could not kill a god, each individual can not fight against the compulsion of the ten oaths.

kagato3

2014-04-03, 13:29

While they were made to fight gods they are no where close to to power level of killing or even beating TET . They do seem to have a massive hate on for him as the oaths pretty much denies their existence.

Birdway

2014-04-03, 13:34

Without the oaths I think TET would laugh them off like some kind of universe law breaking being, like a god.

haseo0408

2014-04-03, 18:06

Thank you Awrya-sa, Kagato-san and Birway-san, this gives a clear insight of the Freguel race and I think it´s safe to assume that of all races out there this angels are the ones that want to win the Throne of God the most, TET is anathema to them so I think nothing would make them happier that destroy the order created by this guy.

Netto Azure

2014-04-04, 03:09

I am liking the colorful adaptation of this world. But alas it seems that technology is something that the Eastern Alliance has a monopoly on. Thank goodness the two leaders are obsessed with tech. I hope they can get some replacements for their tablets and cell phones if it breaks...or be able to transfer the data/apps to this world's tech. So much technology and ideas stored in them.

Breimoon

2014-04-04, 03:23

the moment the oaths are broken is the moment the "Angels" will start destroying the world with all their fights xD

AP24

2014-04-05, 06:42

It's interesting the anime has common things with Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo.

-Sora has the same seiyuu as Sorata from Sakurasou whose hobby is also games.
-Shiro has the same seiyuu as Mashiro from Sakurasou who is also a genius.
-The anime director had also directed Sakurasou.
-OP is performed by Konomi Suzuki, who did the ED1 and OP2 for Sakurasou.

watisit

2014-04-05, 07:54

mike211

2014-04-10, 00:19

I have just watched the first eps of NGNL, I have to say is the colour is abit overwhelming, but that might be just sub team encoding fault (waiting for a better subber to pick this up to confirm), in any case the first eps was done fairly well other then some changes. Hopefully the anime would help covince others to help out on the LN progress.

rickiminato

2014-04-10, 00:20

what are the most powerfull races in the world of no game no life?
what kind of powers have?

omegasereon

2014-04-10, 00:52

The first episode was great. Knowing Madhouse though.....hopefully it continues at this pace.

Breimoon

2014-04-10, 03:11

we gotta trust in the author, he says he is keeping them in check

mike211

2014-04-10, 05:43

what are the most powerfull races in the world of no game no life?
what kind of powers have?

In term of magic power they would be the old gods, in term of rank (eg after the gods war) it would be the elves.

Alesio33

2014-04-10, 12:32

In term of magic power they would be the old gods, in term of rank (eg after the gods war) it would be the elves.

Actually the elves are only the ones with the biggest country. There are races much more powerful than them.

Requiem-x

2014-04-10, 12:43

Greetings. How do you think anime only viewers will take Shiro's debut at directing next episode? :heh: Not to mention the beginning of the Steph bullying. I can already feel the anger :heh:

Definetly looking forward to the chess game.

Xacual

2014-04-10, 12:44

I'm expecting a decent storm about the mind control and forced falling in love.

I'm more looking forward to Jibril's Word Connector. That should be episode 5 or 6.

XFire

2014-04-10, 12:47

I'm expecting a decent storm about the mind control and forced falling in love.

I'm more looking forward to Jibril's Word Connector. That should be episode 5 or 6.

Yeah, thats gonna raise a shitstorm for the ages.

Requiem-x

2014-04-10, 13:09

Yeah, thats gonna raise a shitstorm for the ages.

Ugh, if only vol 2 had full translations. I already caught wind of the big shocker of that part, and I'm honestly not sure how to call it, it's just so WTF but at the same time makes perfect sense. It's gonna make people go nuts, though. Same with Steph's soft brainwashing, though this is hardly the first time this scenario appears in LN/manga/anime.

Plant42

2014-04-10, 13:11

The fronpispiece for vol.6 the "great war(past)"arc is out
It seems this new character is from the Ex-machina race.

http://image.ohozaa.com/i/485/KhDm5O.jpg (http://image.ohozaa.com/view2/xwafTNCX15UGtVBp)

Requiem-x

2014-04-10, 13:41

Well, it looks like my timing in joining this thread was perfect.

For a moment I thought it said Deus ex Machina :heh:

Assuming these are machines with minds of their own, I can see this really messing with Shiro's head.

kagato3

2014-04-10, 14:12

Yeah, thats gonna raise a shitstorm for the ages.

No the storm will come from everyone that has been thinking there is no sibling sexual tensions in the series and the fact everyone will jump to incest even though it isn't as they are completely not blood related

Manic

2014-04-10, 14:25

No the storm will come from everyone that has been thinking there is no sibling sexual tensions in the series and the fact everyone will jump to incest even though it isn't as they are completely not blood related

well to some of their defense, the sibling love crap is being over used and ppl are getten sick of it. I am too as of late, its fine once in awhile but it's being overdone.

XFire

2014-04-10, 14:54

No the storm will come from everyone that has been thinking there is no sibling sexual tensions in the series and the fact everyone will jump to incest even though it isn't as they are completely not blood related

Eh, they're too distracted by Mahouka at the moment :heh:

SoloPanda

2014-04-10, 14:59

I'm waiting for it to end and then I'll marathon the Anime along with the Mahouka one. I just can't keep the tension up on an anime when I already know what's gonna happen next week. It's fun to watch them in one go though, as long as they Anime isn't garbage.

LeaD36

2014-04-10, 18:03

^i'd be in the exact same boat. Except that I landed a more than sweet job offer, so i gotta slave my 40 hours a week and essentially have no leisure time to spare on reading LNs :(

kazzuya13

2014-04-10, 21:31

^i'd be in the exact same boat. Except that I landed a more than sweet job offer, so i gotta slave my 40 hours a week and essentially have no leisure time to spare on reading LNs :(

I read LN on my commute to work and before I go to sleep. So at the very least 1 chapter of reading a day isn't that hard. Cause if there is too much back log I would become too lazy to read.

mike211

2014-04-12, 11:07

Actually the elves are only the ones with the biggest country. There are races much more powerful than them.

Hence why I said the Elves. Since they own the most land, they are rank 1 and as stated on my previous post the most powerfullest race in term of power, would be the old god, but power mean nothing if the opponent could out smart you, as shown in vol 2.

watisit

2014-04-12, 11:11

Isn't it the werebeasts with the most amount of land, covering most of the continent? Until vol 3 that is. What the elves are famous for is their ability to use multiple spells at the same time.

Werebeasts: Highest physical capabilities. Some have the ability to even surpass their bodies' limits by manipulating their blood (Think Luffy's Gear Second)
Elves: Able to use multiple magics at once
Mermaids: Mainly charm magics, power up when in water.
Freugel: Very powerful but i think the top 5 can overpower them easily. It was said that at least 50 Freugels were required to take down a dragon and 200 for a god

Ophis

2014-04-12, 13:04

Hence why I said the Elves. Since they own the most land, they are rank 1 and as stated on my previous post the most powerfullest race in term of power, would be the old god, but power mean nothing if the opponent could out smart you, as shown in vol 2.

Completely wrong. The Elves only have the most land.

#1 Old-Deus
#2 Phantasma
#6 Fluguel
#7 Elves
#14 Werebeasts
#16 Humans

This is the ranking according to the first 2 translated volumes of the novel.

Xacual

2014-04-12, 13:16

#3 is Elementals.

Netto Azure

2014-04-12, 22:46

I'm more looking forward to Jibril's Word Connector. That should be episode 5 or 6.

That's what solidified the hook for me in this series. Hope it gets adapted well.

As for the forced love...*sigh* I really should start watching more obscure anime. :P

questmas

2014-04-14, 22:24

Heard that the rankings are as follows:

1: Old Deus
2: Phantasma
3: Elemental
4: Dragon people
5: Giants
6: Flugel
7: Elves
8 - 11 placement unknown: Dwarves, Faries, Ex machina (machine people), Demon
12: Vampire
13: Moonpeople
14: Werebeasts
15: Mermaids
16: Humans

Can anyone confirm?

Also, vol 3 chap 1 is out on bakatsuki

Ken Sanders

2014-04-14, 23:17

I think Sora and the gang will meet a Demon in Vol. 4.

And as for the mermaid in Vol.5 , well, unlike it's original counterpart, NGNL's version is a perverted mermaid.

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/images/thumb/c/c6/NGNL5_334.jpg/450px-NGNL5_334.jpg

OtakuFreak88

2014-04-14, 23:33

R.LocK

2014-04-15, 01:58

Bonus points for Kurami~

darkofficer

2014-04-15, 03:53

The first girl who made soda blush

Xacual

2014-04-15, 05:46

I think Sora and the gang will meet a Demon in Vol. 4.

And as for the mermaid in Vol.5 , well, unlike it's original counterpart, NGNL's version is a perverted mermaid.

If you mean the girl with wings and tail on v4 cover, that's a vampire apparently.

watisit

2014-04-15, 08:38

About that vampire
That's a he

kazzuya13

2014-04-15, 08:48

I wonder if they managed to take the throne of God. Will they become god (life longevity, Omniponent and Omniscient) or they will only be human who has god like powers (meaning they can still be killed or die of old age)?

Zakoo

2014-04-15, 09:07

If god can alter the rules of the world, it shouldn't be a problem for them to alter their own body and choose what they want.

Expect Sora ending gender bender to enter in the legendary heaven/bath and make shiro grow up physically.