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Hell_ping
2015-11-19, 04:53
Eirun is no. 1 for new series apparently. I'd be cautiously optimistic due to it being under MF.

Alderamin as expected, yes :D

I have to admit, I feel twice shy about MF after ZnT...

Quite expected. The real question is: Is it out of the top 10? Most likely it is.

We have candidates like Rokka, Kono Koi, Harem Baseball, Overlord, Escape Speed, Imouto Sae, Seishun Buta, 35th Platoon, Hai Grimgal, Mahouka, StB, Kiniro Quartet...and that's not considering the other new works that came out this year.

I'm expecting Rokka and Kono Koi to remain in the top 10, but tall order for Index to remain there. (even baka test fell off quite hard to the late 10s after its peak)

EDIT: Forgot about Gamers. Topped the Light Novel Twitter award, followed by Imouto Sae, and Eirun.

larethian
2015-11-19, 04:54
I haven't been reading SAO for a while, so I won't comment on it.
I'm caught up with Oregairu and I would rank it like between 4-8 probably for this year's volumes. It probably took the crown because of public poll skew, which makes it a boring outcome. My opinion.

Interested to know what the collaborators are supporting this year.

Edit:
I just caught up with Gamers by Aoi Sekina, author of Seitokai no Ichizon. It's downright hilarious and I would bet a FGO summoning ticket that it will be well ranked in the "New series list".

Allen
2015-11-19, 05:39
We have candidates like Rokka, Kono Koi, Harem Baseball, Overlord, Escape Speed, Imouto Sae, Seishun Buta, 35th Platoon, Hai Grimgal, Mahouka, StB, Kiniro Quartet...and that's not considering the other new works that came out this year.

Kiniro shouldn't appear this time because it doesn't have a new volume since august/2014 (it seems it is already finished?). Danmachi and Saekano may also get a spot in the top-10 because of their anime adaptations.

I just caught up with Gamers by Aoi Sekina, author of
Seitokai no Ichizon. It's downright hilarious and I would bet a FGO summoning ticket that it will be well ranked in the "New series list".
Yeah, I hope so too. All those misunderstandings www

I would guess that Kentoma and/or Lolyferatu are LNs that would please the collaborators as 1-volume complete stories.

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-19, 05:47
I'm expecting Rokka and Kono Koi to remain in the top 10, but tall order for Index to remain there. (even baka test fell off quite hard to the late 10s after its peak)


I think it's still doable, but if nothing changes in terms of new substantial projects then this might be the last year.

Kiniro shouldn't appear this time because it doesn't have a new volume since august/2014 (it seems it is already finished?). Danmachi and Saekano may also get a spot in the top-10 because of their anime adaptations.


I don't know about the series ranking, but I wouldn't be surprised if Hestia crushes the female rankings lol.

larethian
2015-11-19, 05:55
Kiniro shouldn't appear this time because it doesn't have a new volume since august/2014 (it seems it is already finished?). Danmachi and Saekano may also get a spot in the top-10 because of their anime adaptations.


Yeah, I hope so too. All those misunderstandings www

I would guess that Kentoma and/or Lolyferatu are LNs that would please the collaborators as 1-volume complete stories.
My favorite part was when Karen going honne mode with Chiaki www

Edit:
Apparently, collaborator rankings are:
1. Alderamin
2. Eirun
3. Shuumatsu
4. Escape Speed? (need to verify as it was posted on 2ch in abbreviated form)
5. Seiyaku

Allen
2015-11-19, 09:05
My favorite part was when Karen going honne mode with Chiaki www

Edit:
Apparently, collaborator rankings are:
1. Alderamin
2. Eirun
3. Shuumatsu
4. Escape Speed? (need to verify as it was posted on 2ch in abbreviated form)
5. Seiyaku
Haha, that part was really good too. Can't wait to read the 3rd volume.

And it should be Escape Speed, don't know any other LN that uses ヱ in its name.

IceHism
2015-11-19, 09:14
I am very confused how collaborators can throw a lot of their support to an MF bunko j book. Just seeing a book associated with that label makes me cautious. I wonder if there is something different about it.

Kuroageha
2015-11-19, 10:27
It seems Mikoto will be first and Yukino second in the female rankings.
Kinda sad the first places are just popularity polls at least the book ranking offers a change.


I'm interested in those below them however.

zaikoi
2015-11-19, 10:47
I just checked.
Kono Light Novel ga Sugoi! 2016. The magazine will go on sale November 21.

ACertainStark
2015-11-19, 12:02
It seems Mikoto will be first and Yukino second in the female rankings.
Kinda sad the first places are just popularity polls at least the book ranking offers a change.


I'm interested in those below them however.

Yep.
http://i.imgur.com/1QCyIVAl.jpg
https://twitter.com/guchu_ball/status/667309633745260545

It seems Index rankings were:
7th Place - Toaru Majutsu no Index
Female Ranking
1. Mikoto
9. Othinus
10. Index
16. Shokuhou Misaki
Male Ranking
3. Kamijou Touma
4. Accelerator(?)
https://twitter.com/guchu_ball/status/667322913427558402

Hell_ping
2015-11-19, 12:05
I see Shiro at 7th for girls, and Megumi(?) at 6th?

EDIT: Is that Miyuki I see at 8th?

ACertainStark
2015-11-19, 12:13
I think it is. That looks like Mahouka 16 Cover...

Hiss13
2015-11-19, 12:17
Index is falling from grace? :T_T:

Kuroageha
2015-11-19, 12:34
I might get criticized but I stand that the 3 volumes before NT14 weren't that good to stand out enough.

ACertainStark
2015-11-19, 12:43
Putting aside opinions, not much happened anyway and NT14 doesn't count, so it isn't surprising it dropped. It's cool that bunch characters made it in, though.

Kunagisa
2015-11-19, 13:15
They really should just split the rankings and have the collaborators by themselves. They have too much weight and some of their choices are just too dubious, especially compared to the monitors (Eirun seriously?).

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-19, 13:36
I am honestly surprised and impressed that Othinus' placement was not a one off thing lol

7th place for series is something I'm okay with.

Hiromin
2015-11-19, 13:59
I am actually satisfied with Index getting 7th place, I mean it is understandable, somewhat... :eyespin:

Mikoto is first as usual :heh: But I am glad Othinus remained in the top 10 :D (I too expected it to be a one-time thing thanks to NT9-10 :heh: ) And 3 females and two males in the top ten is fantastic :D I would have wished Misaki got a higher place though :(

DragonXX
2015-11-19, 15:19
Yep.
http://i.imgur.com/1QCyIVAl.jpg
https://twitter.com/guchu_ball/status/667309633745260545

It seems Index rankings were:
7th Place - Toaru Majutsu no Index
Female Ranking
1. Mikoto
9. Othinus
10. Index
16. Shokuhou Misaki
Male Ranking
3. Kamijou Touma
4. Accelerator(?)
https://twitter.com/guchu_ball/status/667322913427558402

Who 1st and 2nd in male ranking?

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-19, 17:03
Who 1st and 2nd in male ranking?

Probably Hachiman and Kirito respectively.

DragonXX
2015-11-19, 19:18
Probably Hachiman and Kirito respectively.

Really Kirito and his supid Wish Fullfulment character which no personally but look I am awsome unless he get major Character devepolment in the book we can't read because last time I read SAO before Baka took it down he was the same.

Also what will the artuor do because we are getting closer to the end of the SAO Web Novel now that we are two book into the second half of the Alicization Arc.

OH&S
2015-11-19, 20:09
Yep.
http://i.imgur.com/1QCyIVAl.jpg
https://twitter.com/guchu_ball/status/667309633745260545

It seems Index rankings were:
7th Place - Toaru Majutsu no Index
Female Ranking
1. Mikoto
9. Othinus
10. Index
16. Shokuhou Misaki
Male Ranking
3. Kamijou Touma
4. Accelerator(?)
https://twitter.com/guchu_ball/status/667322913427558402


I'm surprised Index managed to stay in the top 10 this year. This year (NT11-13) was a comparatively cold year for the franchise. Reception for those novels was far more mixed compared to NT8-10. Kamachi seems to struggle with keeping the momentum gained from the end of a long story arc. But if Index is 7th, what happened to Mahouka/Danmachi/NGNL/Overlord/Rokka?
<deadpan voice>Yeah. Misaka is 1st place again...</deadpan voice> :rolleyes:
First time in a while that Index stays in the top 10 for 2 years in a row.
Othinus stays in the top 10!
NT11 didn't help Shokuhou?
Kamijou proving his consistent popularity again with 3rd place. Beaten only by anime-boosted characters (minus HachiMAN).
Also Accelerator didn't even have an appearance this year, just a namedrop. What's he doing there? No love for Hamazura?
Haimura placing second isn't too surprising either.


All in all, good placings for Index considering how the novels this year were.

ACertainStark
2015-11-19, 21:55
NT11 was released a while ago so I'm not surprised it didn't do much even though its reception was quite good. Really not sure how Accelerator got there, lol.

Curious where they ended up on the overall ranking.

larethian
2015-11-20, 01:14
Haha, that part was really good too. Can't wait to read the 3rd volume.

Ufufufufu (http://i.imgur.com/VieuAIW.jpg)

Index is falling from grace? :T_T:
I might get criticized but I stand that the 3 volumes before NT14 weren't that good to stand out enough.
Index is a thing of the past, I don't even follow it anymore for the last 3 years or so :heh: I honestly don't believe there can be 'quality' with so many simultaneous titles and at such a fast schedule.
Anyway, I can't seem to follow long series these days. Other things demand my attention. Only Daiden is the exception, with sporadic releases, and I can read a volume in well under 3 hours normally. :heh:

They really should just split the rankings and have the collaborators by themselves. They have too much weight and some of their choices are just too dubious, especially compared to the monitors (Eirun seriously?).
Whether I give it a chance or not, depends on what kind of comments appear in the mag :heh:

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-20, 01:52
Really Kirito and his supid Wish Fullfulment character which no personally but look I am awsome unless he get major Character devepolment in the book we can't read because last time I read SAO before Baka took it down he was the same.

Also what will the artuor do because we are getting closer to the end of the SAO Web Novel now that we are two book into the second half of the Alicization Arc.

Well despite what we may feel, the current 'in' thing right now is that particular type of wish fulfillment fantasy, it's partly why Mahouka, Overlord and Gate is as big as they are.

On hindsight, Kirito isn't really as bad.

EDIT: IMO that is :heh:

larethian
2015-11-20, 02:11
This is not with reference to any specific title, but just saying this here for now, before we see massive derailing take place.

I think it's fine to comment on impressions and form own opinions based on either facts or just hearsay.

But be careful of making an impression and opinion sound like a factual assertion, especially about a series which one does not have intimate factual knowledge outside of anime, summaries, and spoilers. Interpretations of course may differ. But strong assertions may attracted unwanted derailing. Just saying :heh:

I feel it's apt to say this because this is a thread purely about light novels after all :heh:

Marcus H.
2015-11-20, 02:16
We haven't even seen the full brunt of the isekai yet. :uhoh:

julioalqae
2015-11-20, 02:22
We haven't even seen the full brunt of the isekai yet. :uhoh:

i'll fear that era....:heh:, just need the blow up first, strangely mushoku isn't included yet.

Zefyris
2015-11-20, 02:53
Looks like someone got their early christmas present:p

*Victory sign*

Seems like they really did it, and supported Alderamin as well? Very good job from them. That's for things like that I appreciate that ranking compared to the full popularity oriented ones.
That's the only time when what I like ranks well after all :heh:



Eirun is no. 1 for new series apparently. I'd be cautiously optimistic due to it being under MF.


I have to admit, I feel twice shy about MF after ZnT...

I am very confused how collaborators can throw a lot of their support to an MF bunko j book. Just seeing a book associated with that label makes me cautious. I wonder if there is something different about it.
To answer the three above, I feel the same about MF bunko J as you, but the last time they gave their support to a MF bunko J title (last year) , that was for Zetsushinkai no Solaris. And Zetsushinkai no Solaris is definitely VERY different from the usual MF bunko J title. And while I don't think it deserved as much support from the collaborator as it did (but then again imo last year was very very poor in new good works so they didn't had a lot of choice either ?) it's pretty fine, and I don't regret buying and reading it. Especially the second volume was quite promising compared to the first one (although they ranked it for the first volume last year, and it seems like they aren't supporting it this year even though the second volume was better. Well, this year has titles like shuumatsuna, so it can't be helped). So while I usually avoid MF bunko J titles, I would be cautious before rejecting something from that label if it's pushed by the collaborators. I think that on the contrary, when they find something very different in a specialised label like that, ti's also part of their job to attract the attention of the readers, basically saying "ey look, this one is different so don't avoid it just because of the specialized label".



They really should just split the rankings and have the collaborators by themselves. They have too much weight and some of their choices are just too dubious, especially compared to the monitors (Eirun seriously?).
I disagree. Anyone can take the stats from the voters and make that ranking anyway since they release the different stats. A popularity only would be as boring as the character popularity polls here. Who would want that? We already have that kind of stuff everywhere anyway. The whole point of having the voters have their favourite work compete directly with the works pushed by the collaborators is that those works will get far more attention from the public by competing with the popular title directly than having a separate poll.
Also, I don't know about Eirun, but do you have any better new title to push than shuumatsuna in mind? If so that I'd like to hear it. Because AFAIK, they did very well. And pushing Alderamin is defintiely not wrong either.

SibylEnd
2015-11-20, 03:27
Also Accelerator didn't even have an appearance this year, just a namedrop. What's he doing there? No love for Hamazura?
i'd really love for some hamazura representation; but it really seems he doesn't mix well with the japanese audience i.e. hamazura as a character seems to be the exact opposite of kirito and similarly the popularity seems to be polarised (i'll have to use the kirito comparision more often; it's actually pretty spot on)
Really Kirito and his supid Wish Fullfulment character which no personally but look I am awsome unless he get major Character devepolment in the book we can't read because last time I read SAO before Baka took it down he was the same.
i second that. speaking of gary stu; has tatsuya shibas rank shown up yet? he was close to being veto'd out of the top ten last year at 5th best male and 9th best character.

Lem
2015-11-20, 05:01
http://i.4cdn.org/jp/1448008080021.jpg
http://i.4cdn.org/jp/1448008141454.jpg
http://i.4cdn.org/jp/1448008883441.jpg

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-20, 06:17
Wow, Yahari girls are just climbing up

larethian
2015-11-20, 06:22
I normally dont comment on character rankings, but Irohasu, you did well.

Hell_ping
2015-11-20, 06:24
Okay...here we go:

1. Oregairu
2. SAO
3. Negimaki (Alderamin)
4. Eirun Last Code
5. Shuumatsu
6. NGNL
7. Index
8. Danmachi
9. Saekano
10. Escape Speed.

11. Mahouka (again it's out of the top 10)
12. Haganai
13. A certain pilot series
14. Imouto Sae
15. Gamers
16. Kono Koi
17. Rokka (I had them as 6 and 7, not 16 and 17...)
18. DRRR
19. Prep boy
20. Warring bakery and the automaton waitress

Notables:

21. Grimgal
22. Seishun Buta (Sakurasou author)
24. Kino
25. Overlord
27. Accel World
28. Solaris
29. Re:Zero

32. Harem baseball
33. Henneko
36. SAO GGO
39. Altina
41. Hatamaou
42. Encore
43. Sky World
45. Baka Test
46. Haruhi isn't here
48. Aria
49. Dragnet
51. Clockwork
52. DAL
53. KagePro
54. Bokushinu
57. Nourin
58. Orihara Izaya (DRRR spinoff)
60. Zero Hajimeru

larethian
2015-11-20, 06:30
Gamers in top 4 for new series it seems. Woohoo.
I'd bet Ireba is probably strong in comedy, but the word imouto and given how Haganai turned out, it's pushing me away.

Allen
2015-11-20, 06:32
01. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatteiru.
02. Sword Art Online
03. Tenkyou no Alderamin
04. Eirun Last Code
05. Shuumatsu Nani Shitemasuka? Isogashii desuka? Sukutte Moratte Ii desuka?
06. No Game No Life
07. To Aru Majutsu no Index Series
08. Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darouka
09. Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata
10. Escape Speed
11. Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei
12. Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai
13. To Aru Hikuushi e no Seiyaku
14. Imouto Sae Ireba Ii.
15. Gamers!
16. Kono Koi to, Sono Mirai.
17. Rokka no Yuusha
18. Durarara!! Series
19. Shitayomi Danshi to Toukou Joshi
20. Tatakau Panya to Automaton Waitress
21. Hai to Gensou no Grimgar
22. Seishun Buta Series
23. Isekai Shokudou
24. Kino no Tabi
25. Overlord
26. Ryuuou no Oshigoto!
27. Accel World
28. Zetsushinkai no Solaris
29. Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu
30. Hakozoko no Elpis
31. Rokudenashi no Majutsu Koushi to Akashi Records
32. Koukyuu Rakuen Kyuujou - Harem League Baseball
33. Hentai Ouji to Waranai Neko
34. Ideologue!
35. Kusuriya no Hitorigoto
36. Sword Art Online Alternative Gun Gale Online
37. Waga Hero no Tame no Zettai Aku
38. Namapo Aniki
39. Haken no Kouki Altina
40. Dokusou Tanpen Series - Nozaki Mado Gekijou
41. Hataraku Maou-sama!
42. Sekai no Owari no Encore
43. Sky World
44. Wizard's Brain
45. Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu
46. Ore no Kyoushitsu ni Haruhi wa Inai
47. Rasen Jikuu no Labyrinth
48. Hidan no Aria
49. Cop Craft Dragnet Mirage Reloaded
50. Chuuko demo Koi ga Shitai!
51. Clockwork Planet
52. Date a Live
53. Kagerou Daze
54. Ashita, Boku wa Shinu, Kimi wa Ikikaeru
55. Hitotsu no Umi no Pallas Athena
56. Youkoso Zitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e
57. Nourin
58. Orihara Izaya to, Yuuyake wo
59. Uchuujin no Mura e Youkoso Shinomura Nougyou Koukou Tanteibu wa Mita!
60. Zero kara Hajimeru Mahou no Sho

01. Misaka Mikoto (Index)
02. Yunoshita Yukino (Oregairu)
03. Isshiki Iroha (Oregairu)
04. Yuigahama Yui (Oregairu)
04. Asuna (SAO)
06. Katou Megumi (Saekano)
07. Shiro (NGNL)
08. Shiba Miyuki (Mahouka)
09. Othinus (Index)
10. Index (Index)
11. Sinon (SAO)
12. Shiraki Oujo (Mitou Shoukan)
13. Aiz Wallenstein (Danmachi)
14. Hikigaya Komachi (Oregairu)
15. Alice Synthesis Thirty (SAO)
16. Misaki Shokuhou (Index) || Hestia (Danmachi)
18. Sakurajima Mai (Seishun Buta Series)
19. Remu? (Re:Zero)
20. Yatorisino Igzem (Alderamin)
21. Kasumigaoka Utaha (Saekano)
22. Kani Nayuta (Ireba)
23. Izumi Sagiri (Eromanga)
24. Fremy Speeddraw (Rokka)
25. Sawamura Spencer Eriri (Saekano) || Mikazuki Yozora (Haganai) || Kuroyukihime (Accel World)
28. Yusa Emi (Hatamaou) || Himeragi Yukina (Strike the Blood)
30. Seira Silvin? (Dress na Boku ga Yangotonaki Katagata no Katei Kyoushi-sama na Kudan)

01. Hikigaya Hachiman (Oregairu)
02. Kirito (SAO)
03. Kamijou Touma (Index)
04. Accelerator (Index)
05. Shiba Tatsuya (Mahouka)
06. Sora (NGNL)
07. Bell Cranell (Danmachi)
08. Totsuka Saika (Oregairu)
09. Azusagawa Sakuta (Seishun Buta)
10. Maou Sadao (Hatamaou)
11. Ikuta Sorouku (Alderamin)
12. Sakamaki Izayoi (Mondaiji)
13. Shiroyama Kyousuke (Mitou Shoukan)
14. Ainz Ooal Gown (Overlord)
15. Kazuma (Konosuba)
16. Itsuka Shidou (DAL)
17. Tooyama Kinji (Hidan no Aria)
18. Glen Reedasu (Rokudenashi) || Aniki (Namapo Aniki)
20. JIndai Shinobu (Zashiki Warashi)
21. Orihara Izaya (Drrr!!) || Natsuki Subaru (Re:Zero)
23. Adlet Mayer (Rokka)
24. Araragi Koyomi (Monogatari)
25. Kawamura Hideo (Reisen)
26. Mitsuka Souji (Oretwin)
27. Aki Tomoya (Saekano)
28. Hans Humpty (Rokka) || Eirun Bazatt (Eirun)
30. Hyoudou Issei (DxD)

01. Ponkan⑧ (Oregairu)
02. Haimura Kiyotaka (Index)
03. adec (SAO)
04. Kantoku (Ireba, Henneko, Kowaseka)
05. Misaki Kurehito (Saekano)
06. Yasuda Suzuhito (Drrr!!, Danmachi)
07. Kamiya Yuu (NGNL)
08. Mishima Kurone (Konosuba, Rokudenashi)
09. Tsunako (DAL)
10. Ukai Saki (Saishinbu)
11. Shiromizakana (Aoi Haru no Subete)
12. Buriki (Haganai)
13. Kasuga Ayumu (OreTwin)
14. Misoguchi Keeji (Seishun Buta)
15. Kuroboshi Kouhaku (Kino no Tabi)
16. Kanzaki Hiro (Oremanga)
17. Mahaya (Zashiki Warashi)
18. 029 (Hatamaou)
19. Takeoka Miho (Kyuuketsuki ni Natta Kimi wa Eien no Ai wo Hajimeru)
20. Kobuishi (Aria)
21. Kippu (Nourin)
22. Nagi Ryou (HO)
23. Ishida Kana (Mahouka)
24. Miyama Zero (DxD, Nobuna)
25. Nardack (Kono Koi)
26. Ikawa Waki (Mitou Shoukan)
27. Furuno Haruaki (Encore, Furachi Doumei)
28. so-bin (Overlord)
29. BUNBUN (Chronicle Legion)
30. Ruroo (Machine Doll)
31. Kishida Mel (Kamimemo)
32. Tinkle (3P!)
33. Satoyasu (Horizon, Hexennacht)
34. Shirabi (Ryuuou, Tokyo Inroaded) || Bania600 (Rokusan, Rail Wars) || Gin (Escape Speed)
37. Hidari (Nijiiro Alien) || Miyagi (Rokka)
39. Manyako (StB) || Otsuka Shinichirou (Re:zero) || Yamamoto Yamato (Kurenai, Owari no Seraph)
42. Hisasi (Netoge)
43. HIMA (AW)
44. Shiki Douji (FMP Another) || karory (Dress na Boku ga(ry)
46. Tomose Shunsaku (Youzitsu)
47. Non (Adachi to Shimamura)
48. Shino (Clockwork Planet)
49. Itou Noiji (Kanae no Hoshi) || Yuugen (Flame Oukoku) || Sikorsky (Campione)
52. Saboten (Gamers!, Kuzukin) || CUTEG (Gaworare) || Haga Yui (BakaTest)
55. Magomago (Gusha no Junction) || Shizuma Yoshinori (Zero kara Hajimeru Mahou no Sho) || Eihi (Shitayomi Danshi(ry)

Hell_ping
2015-11-20, 06:35
The Iroha votes knocked out Yukino, huh...?

tsunade666
2015-11-20, 06:37
Hidan no Aria is still in top 50!?

bangs head in the table...

Hell_ping
2015-11-20, 06:39
From the other end:

1 Hachiman (Yahari)
2 Kirito (SAO)
3 Touma (Index)
4 Accelerator (Index)
5 Tatsuya (Mahouka)
6 Sora (NGNL)
7 Bell (DanMachi)
8 saika (Yahari)
9 Sakuta Azusagawa (Seishun Buta Yarou)
10 Sadao Maou (Hataraku Maou-sama!)
http://blog-imgs-64.fc2.com/y/a/r/yaraon/DnXjKnDh.jpg
Overall poll
1 Hachiman
2 Mikoto
3 Kirito
4 Yukino
5 Touma
6 Accelerator
7 Iroha
8 Tatsuya
9 Yui and Asuna

tsunade666
2015-11-20, 06:47
wow, I didn't know that Hachiman is more popular than Mikoto-cult.

is Sakuta Azusagawa a trap? I can only vaguely saw a female? character there.

Allen
2015-11-20, 06:58
Ufufufufu (http://i.imgur.com/VieuAIW.jpg)

SOON (http://imgur.com/skkzzA2)

The only surprise to me this time was this Rasen Jikuu Labyrinth (www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4086800098) that I've never heard of. Pretty interesed in it.

Hell_ping
2015-11-20, 07:07
SOON (http://imgur.com/skkzzA2)

I'm still at the 2nd volume :eyespin:

Altogether, we have 20 new series and 11 series that missed the cut last year.

Character Points (Points/ Votes)

1 Hachiman (932/236)
2 Mikoto (687/259)
3 Kirito (599/260)
4 Yukino (598/233)
5 Touma (449/191)
6 Accelerator (368/181)
7 Iroha (358/182)
8 Tatsuya (277/149)
9 Yui (255/135) and Asuna (255/113)
11. Sora (195/109)
12. Bell (181/95)
13. Megumi (166/73)
14. Shiro (142/75)
15. Miyuki (138/79)
16. Othinus (113/57)
17. Saika (104/58)
18. Index (102/53)
19. Sakuta (87/43)
20. Maou (66/33)

Takeshi senpai
2015-11-20, 07:24
wow, I didn't know that Hachiman is more popular than Mikoto-cult.

is Sakuta Azusagawa a trap? I can only vaguely saw a female? character there.

Hachiman attracts fans from multiple groups. The loser otakus who want a self-insert character, and the cool, wise loner who get things done is easy for them to self-insert, especially with many girls pinning for him. The people who like character development will enjoy how Hachiman developed over the story. The guys that don't want the generic bland MCs will enjoy the freshness of his character.

Allen
2015-11-20, 07:26
Finished adding the rest of the top 30 female in this post (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=5710629&postcount=536). Waiting for the rest of the male and the illustrator rankings.

Echizen777
2015-11-20, 07:39
Finished adding the rest of the top 30 female in this post (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=5710629&postcount=536). Waiting for the rest of the male and the illustrator rankings.

Fremy is in the top 30 :D It's the first time I see a ROkka character in the list. Would be cool to see one in the male list as well.

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-20, 07:48
Izaya has a spinoff??

OH&S
2015-11-20, 07:48
Still scratching my head as to how Index could rank so high. Maybe it was NT13? Who knows? I just can't believe that it beat out Danmachi and Mahouka. And that God Tatsuya couldn't beat Accelerator who didn't even appear this year.

Such stubborn readers the Index fanbase are. Or maybe Mahouka readers just don't vote for it? I noticed its comparatively weak performance last year as well.

Biggest surprise:

12. Shiraki Oujo (Mitou Shoukan)

White Queen from Mitou Shoukan://Blood-Sign ranked so high! She basically an unknown right now.

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-20, 07:52
I'm shocked that Hestia wasn't in top ten- that girl was a fan service phenomenal.

The white queen is 12th? That's something I didn't expect.

Lots of surprises this year

OH&S
2015-11-20, 07:57
I'm shocked that Hestia wasn't in top ten- that girl was a fan service phenomenal.

The white queen is 12th? That's something I didn't expect.

Lots of surprises this year

I think its even more surprising that these two facts have occurred at the same time and that the White Queen got more votes than Danmachi characters.

n0m@n
2015-11-20, 07:59
4 - Eirun Last Code
Not the best mecha-genre LN. Especially if you have read FMP….
Though it is enjoyable. Has Real Robot, Super Robot, and Kaiju etc. But placing 4th is…
Though MF sure did push this series during its advertisement.

12 – Boku wa Tomodachi ga sukunai
Never thought it would place this high after that ending

26 – Ryuuou no Oshigito
The power of JS + shougi….scary. I wasn’t too into this series. JS is too young…

31 – Rokudenashi no Majutsu Koushi to Akashi Records
I could never get into this. Bought the first volume but gave up halfway.

39 – Haken no Kouhi Altina
Yepi. Stay strong Alti.

42 – Sekai no Owari no Encore
Super happy. I thought it would place higher. Higher than Eirun. My favourite ongoing LN at this moment.

43 – Sky World
The recently completed series. I sure did want to see this turned into anime. Too late though.

45 – Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu
Happy to see it make it in the ranking for its final participation. Quite sad to see it going away after this ranking….

50 – Chuukou demo Koi ga shitai
One of my favourite new series of 2015. Eroge-player MC. He sure has the ball to bring eroge to school….

56 – Youkoso Jitsuryoku shijoushugi no Kyoushitsu he
Another of my favourite new series of 2015. The Kinugasa-Tomose duo are force to be reckoned with!

Marcus H.
2015-11-20, 08:06
And that God Tatsuya couldn't beat Accelerator who didn't even appear this year.

I guess that answers the Tatsuya vs Accel thing that always shows up. :heh:

Hell_ping
2015-11-20, 08:12
Izaya has a spinoff??

myanimelist.net/manga/90870/Orihara_Izaya_to_Yuuyake_wo

I'm shocked that Hestia wasn't in top ten- that girl was a fan service phenomenal.

Just 'phenom' will do...

We used to say that for 50 cent, and look where all the fanservice landed her. Nowhere.

I think its even more surprising that these two facts have occurred at the same time and that the White Queen got more votes than Danmachi characters.

The Ménage à trois allowed someone else to overtake them...just like how 2-4 all lost to one single Mikochin.

On a side note, you can boast that your ava characters are all in the top 10 again this year.

45 – Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu
Happy to see it make it in the ranking for its final participation. Quite sad to see it going away after this ranking….


:upset::upset::upset: T.T

I guess that answers the Tatsuya vs Accel thing that always shows up. :heh:

It is to be noted that Mahouka has always underperformed in the polls. I don't think it has ever been top 10 once.

tsunade666
2015-11-20, 08:30
Hachiman attracts fans from multiple groups. The loser otakus who want a self-insert character, and the cool, wise loner who get things done is easy for them to self-insert, especially with many girls pinning for him. The people who like character development will enjoy how Hachiman developed over the story. The guys that don't want the generic bland MCs will enjoy the freshness of his character.

I know who 8Man is. I just didn't think that he is popular enough to top Mikochin, though I really didn't usually look at the popularity both for boys and girls together but it just comes as a shock to me.

Sacredus
2015-11-20, 08:32
01. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatteiru.
02. Sword Art Online
03. Tenkyou no Alderamin
F*** it, I will not stop reading this (but still I'm but hurt over 7th volume).


20. Yatorisino Igzem (Alderamin)
He... hehe... I wonder how Alderamin author reacted to this...

Quick comment on female list: girls from Yahari dominated list again... and Utaha behind Megumi? WTF Japan?! xP

I will comment list later.

OH&S
2015-11-20, 08:49
The Ménage à trois allowed someone else to overtake them...just like how 2-4 all lost to one single Mikochin.

I suppose so. But I expected the Danmachi group as a whole to be a couple of places higher than what they got. I guess that the White Queen is just that big of an anomaly considering Mitou Shoukan didn't even rank.

On a side note, you can boast that your ava characters are all in the top 10 again this year.

I could... but I'll pass. I'll boast when they actually deserve it. :p

Though if I had one comment to make: technically Misaka did get some character development this year. The in-story realization that she is actually a burden to Kamijou. :heh:

It is to be noted that Mahouka has always underperformed in the polls. I don't think it has ever been top 10 once.

I noticed that last year as well. I guess the character rankings for Tatsuya and Miyuki are just fine barring the Accelerator anomaly. But its just strange that a series that currently sells about twice as much copies per new volume as Index does performs worse than it. Even weirder in a year with multiple well received novels.

I know who 8Man is. I just didn't think that he is popular enough to top Mikochin, though I really didn't usually look at the popularity both for boys and girls together but it just comes as a shock to me.

Well if it has to be anyone, HachiMAN is the most deserving. Though I remember last year that Kamijou also got ahead of her (which he kinda deserved to as well).

Hell_ping
2015-11-20, 09:29
Sorting by publisher

1-10

4 * Dengeki
2 * MF J
1 * GaGaGa
1 * Sneaker
1 * GA Bunko
1 * Fujimi Fantasia

11-30

5 * Dengeki
3 * GaGaGa
3 * MF J
2 * Famitsu
1 * GA Bunko
1 * HJ Bunko
1 * Kadokawa (Overlord)
1 * Fujimi Fantasia
1 * Overlap
1 * Dash X
1 * Hero Bunko

31-60

10 * Dengeki
4 * MF J
3 * Fujimi Fantasia
2 * Famitsu
2 * GA Bunko
2 * GaGaGa
1 * Dash X
1 * Overlap
1 * Hero Bunko
1 * Kadokawa Sneaker
1 * Orange Bunko
1 * Kodansha Ranobe
1 * KCG Bunko

Endscape
2015-11-20, 09:36
List is kind of surprising this time around. Pretty shocked that the White Queen made it to 12th. Did Volume 3 give her a boost?

Oregairu dominating as always. Nice to see Iroha do well.

Saekano doing well too. Is that series any good? Never watched it.

kuroishinigami
2015-11-20, 09:38
Magdala still out of top 60.... So sad.....

Kuroageha
2015-11-20, 10:19
Izaya has a spinoff??
More like a side story.
His fans are somewhat the reason why Durarara SH sold that badly.

tsunade666
2015-11-20, 10:24
More like a side story.
His fans are somewhat the reason why Durarara SH sold that badly.

Why? I'm not following durarara anime or light novel so I don't know why. Last time I heard from the novel is when dollars important members are quitting.

What happen?

Kuroageha
2015-11-20, 10:34
I'm shocked that Hestia wasn't in top ten- that girl was a fan service phenomenal.

The white queen is 12th? That's something I didn't expect.

Lots of surprises this year
You might not know but I heard on 2ch there is one obnoxious guy who is a Ais fan to the death that encourages other readers to side with him. It got worse when her ship got sunk in the last released volume. So instead of helping the series be more popular it is making the fandom be polarized.

Still scratching my head as to how Index could rank so high. Maybe it was NT13? Who knows? I just can't believe that it beat out Danmachi and Mahouka. And that God Tatsuya couldn't beat Accelerator who didn't even appear this year.

Such stubborn readers the Index fanbase are. Or maybe Mahouka readers just don't vote for it? I noticed its comparatively weak performance last year as well.
The former and a bit of the later.


White Queen from Mitou Shoukan://Blood-Sign ranked so high! She basically an unknown right now.
@QH&S
She is basically an even more OP version of Kurumi Tokisaki, that was expected of the character who carries the series.

Why? I'm not following durarara anime or light novel so I don't know why. Last time I heard from the novel is when dollars important members are quitting.

What happen?
Durara and Durarara SH are stories in the same town but with different main characters with occasional cameos of the original cast(I'm still mad that Mikado got blue balled)
At the end of Durarara author put Izaya on a bus.
His replacement on SH is well written but not as interesting as Izaya was, just that.

ACertainStark
2015-11-20, 10:38
Still scratching my head as to how Index could rank so high. Maybe it was NT13? Who knows? I just can't believe that it beat out Danmachi and Mahouka.

White Queen from Mitou Shoukan://Blood-Sign ranked so high! She basically an unknown right now.

I don't think it's that shocking. Reception wasn't as mixed as made out and the only one that really could stick out was one volume but it wasn't that bad either searching from my end.

Anyways, A little sad ZW didn't even make Top 60 and that Yahari dominance. Good to see DanMachi and Saekano in the top 10. That makes me happy. Wasn't expecting Megumi though?

Iroha will always be my #1!!

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-20, 10:50
You might not know but I heard on 2ch there is one obnoxious guy who is a Ais fan to the death that encourages other readers to side with him. It got worse when her ship got sunk in the last released volume.

Wow, would take effort and determination to try to change the flow of a river.

But if true it's pretty nuts that she got higher than Hestia in the ranking.


She is basically an even more OP version of Kurumi Tokisaki, that was expected of the character who carries the series.


It's still pretty crazy she got this high when a Blood Sign is still a bit of a "no name"

Kuroageha
2015-11-20, 10:54
Wow, would take effort and determination to try to change the flow of a river.

But if true it's pretty nuts that she got higher than Hestia in the ranking.
Actually, among readers Ais was as much as popular or more than Hestia and it helped her having her own spin off series. It was the anime the skyrocket her character.

I just edited my previous posts, a polarized fanbase is weaker fanbase compared to others, and that was happening way before the anime.


It's still pretty crazy she got this high when a Blood Sign is still a bit of a "no name"
I made that comparison because Kurumi's ranked even when the novel wasn't known much though she is more a recurring character than a main.

Is blood sign really a no name? Being a work of kamachi should already set it into a pedestal that the others would look out for.

I wouldn't call BS a no name, it got Kamachi's shadow all over it so any casual reader who read Index would know that it's the same author, of course they might try to give it a shot and just like the impressions of the first volume "at the end the one standing out the most was the antagonist".

tsunade666
2015-11-20, 10:56
Is blood sign really a no name? Being a work of kamachi should already set it into a pedestal that the others would look out for.

Wandering Soul
2015-11-20, 11:00
Can't believe the White Queen from Mitou Shoukan made it to the 12th spot. Latest volume must have really helped her.

Not surprised to see Yahari dominating. Glad to see Yui and Iroha doing well.

Can't believe Accelerator somehow beat Tatsuya without even appearing:heh:.

It's also nice to see Alderamin doing well. I'm not surprised Yatori did well but I wonder how the author and other fans reacted to that.

larethian
2015-11-20, 11:12
Can please stop posting explicit or obvious spoilers out in the open? This is not a series thread. There are some series i dont follow but would like to watch the anime without spoilers, and there are some that are on my backlog reading list. Thanks.

Edit:
Especially on character deaths, plot twists, who's the culprit, and romantic ship resolutions etc.

Kunagisa
2015-11-20, 14:03
I disagree. Anyone can take the stats from the voters and make that ranking anyway since they release the different stats. A popularity only would be as boring as the character popularity polls here. Who would want that? We already have that kind of stuff everywhere anyway. The whole point of having the voters have their favourite work compete directly with the works pushed by the collaborators is that those works will get far more attention from the public by competing with the popular title directly than having a separate poll.

Also, I don't know about Eirun, but do you have any better new title to push than shuumatsuna in mind? If so that I'd like to hear it. Because AFAIK, they did very well. And pushing Alderamin is defintiely not wrong either.

My post was mostly on the critic of the system for the most part.

For me it's less about the end result and rather the intention. I am fine with lesser known titles getting pushed, but only if they're truly interesting. Eirun does not seem like such a title to me (could glance at reviews, almost all terrible), where it is the total opposite for SukaSuka. Putting Eirun on there seem to invalidate their other efforts (and it's obvious that MF Bunko J's so heavily pushing this title), kinda like having a tiny piece of rat manure in a bowl of soup (ruins everything).

I do not blame collaborators having an agenda in mind, because this is their job. However, if they want to push a title, that title will get pushed. HP obviously is the mob mentality, so you are correct that their vote should have less weight, but Monitors are different. The fact for the top 10, collaborators have 2.5x the Monitor's weight does not sit well with me.

If I remember correctly, ever since they change the weighting system people give less and less attention to this publication (less votes too).


Whether I give it a chance or not, depends on what kind of comments appear in the mag :heh:
Do report back if it's good in the LN recommendation thread, my friend who read it right after he saw the results said he has no idea how it even ranked. I mean it also ranked here http://lightnovel.jp/best/2015_01-06/vote.html, so I guess it might be a case of either you hate it or love it.

I'm shocked that Hestia wasn't in top ten- that girl was a fan service phenomenal.

The white queen is 12th? That's something I didn't expect.

Lots of surprises this year
Hestia was not ranked last year, but Ais was (http://i.imgur.com/oBerTrB.jpg). Ais beat her again this year despite having extremely limited presence in the anime and in the current novels. I'd say while the anime was successful on its own, the staff managed to completely alienate the novel readers.

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-20, 15:42
I see Allen has updated for the top 30 male characters- there's some surprises here as well


12. Sakamaki Izayoi (Mondaiji) - Still holding strong
13. Shiroyama Kyousuke (Mitou Shoukan) - So it's not just the White Queen :eyespin:
14. Ainz Ooal Gown (Overlord) - Of course
20. JIndai Shinobu (Zashiki Warashi) - Even ZW?! Man HO must not do well or something
23. Adlet Mayer (Rokka) - It's too bad though, I like what I saw from both of them
28. Hans Humpty (Rokka) - It's too bad though, I like what I saw from both of them

ACertainStark
2015-11-20, 15:43
Eh!? Shinobu and Kyousuke made it!? That makes me happy.

Allen
2015-11-20, 15:44
Finished adding the rest of the male ranking and the top 57 (yeah, 57) illustrators in the same post (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=5710629&postcount=536).

Thank you @Kunagisa for the link of the images. If anyone wants to see some comments/number of votes/points distribution go here (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4170550519) (too lazy to reupload everything in other place).

Also the ranking of new series may actually be the most interesting part of the ranking. Kentoma and Lolyferatu were mentioned in some place after all :heh:

01. Eirun Last Code
02. Sukasuka
03. Ireba
04. Gamers!
05. Shitayomi Danshi to Toukou Joshi
06. Tatakau Panya to Automaton Waitress
07. Isekai Shokudou
08. Ryuuou no Oshigoto!
09. Hakozoko no Elpis
10. Ideologue!
11. SAO Alternative GGO
12. Waga Hero no Tame no Zettai Aku
13. Namapo Aniki
14. Rasen Jikuu Labyrinth
15. Chuuko demo Koi ga Shitai!
16. Hitotsu Umi no Pallas Athena
17. Youkoso Zitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e
18. Orihara Izaya to, Yuuyake wo
19. Uchuujin no Mura e Youkoso Shinomura Nougyou Koukou Tanteibu wa Mita!
20. Ken to Mahou no Fantasy
21. Maken no Gunshi to Arks Legion
22. Sabishigariya no Lolyferaty
23. Ware mo Mata Arcadia ni Ari
24. Ashita, Kyou no Kimi ni Aenakutemo

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-20, 15:46
If it's not too much Allen, could you also update it on your very first post on the thread for archiving purposes ^^ ?

Allen
2015-11-20, 16:06
If it's not too much Allen, could you also update it on your very first post on the thread for archiving purposes ^^ ?
First post updated. Dunno if it's better to just link the posts (ranking for 2015) or to put everything like I did for this year's ranking.

tsunade666
2015-11-20, 16:35
Finished adding the rest of the male ranking and the top 57 (yeah, 57) illustrators in the same post (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=5710629&postcount=536).

Thank you @Kunagisa for the link of the images. If anyone wants to see some comments/number of votes/points distribution go here (http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4170550519) (too lazy to reupload everything in other place).

Also the ranking of new series may actually be the most interesting part of the ranking. Kentoma and Lolyferatu were mentioned in some place after all :heh:

01. Eirun Last Code
02. Sukasuka
03. Ireba
04. Gamers!
05. Shitayomi Danshi to Toukou Joshi
06. Tatakau Panya to Automaton Waitress
07. Isekai Shokudou
08. Ryuuou no Oshigoto!
09. Hakozoko no Elpis
10. Ideologue!
11. SAO Alternative GGO
12. Waga Hero no Tame no Zettai Aku
13. Namapo Aniki
14. Rasen Jikuu Labyrinth
15. Chuuko demo Koi ga Shitai!
16. Hitotsu Umi no Pallas Athena
17. Youkoso Zitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e
18. Orihara Izaya to, Yuuyake wo
19. Uchuujin no Mura e Youkoso Shinomura Nougyou Koukou Tanteibu wa Mita!
20. Ken to Mahou no Fantasy
21. Maken no Gunshi to Arks Legion
22. Sabishigariya no Lolyferaty
23. Ware mo Mata Arcadia ni Ari
24. Ashita, Kyou no Kimi ni Aenakutemo

What kind of story is Gamers? MC having a gamers ability like the gamers manhwa? or its a scifi/fantasy story?

if its juts humor then meh -_- I don't fancy humor that much but still, the title interest me.

Echizen777
2015-11-20, 16:37
I was hoping to see a male from Rokka in the rankings but I never expected to see both Adlet and Hans. The anime did its job.

Kuroageha
2015-11-20, 17:26
Best Rokka boys did it!

Also Fremy, her suffering is unfair.

Ah, of course Izayoi made it too, he is so cool he made AS light novel thread gay for him and a dragon :heh:.

@Kunagisa
Ah, that sucks, it was weird first but now makes sense, I wonder if they have anything against her :/

Wandering Soul
2015-11-20, 17:37
Yes, the best Rokka characters made it.Not only did Hans and Adlet make it but so did Fremy. Glad to see the anime helped them out.

I surprised that Kyousuke made it along with the White Queen.

Kenju of the Right
2015-11-20, 17:50
13.Shiroyama Kyousuke (Mitou Shoukan)

Uhh wow, that's pretty impressive this early when i didn't think the sales were all that great

Kuroageha
2015-11-20, 18:09
I'm more worried about HO though.

IceHism
2015-11-20, 18:19
Zeyfris said what new LN series would I want to see this year on this list somewhere back but if I could, I'd want to see Ken to mahou no fantasy by Romeo Tanaka, Hajimaranai Ragnarok to Owatteru Uchira no Live by Ou Jackson or fate prototype by Hikaru sakurai or Tamakou Shakou Dance-bu e Yokoso by senya mihagi. I hear they are pretty good

Allen
2015-11-20, 18:21
What kind of story is Gamers? MC having a gamers ability like the gamers manhwa? or its a scifi/fantasy story?

if its juts humor then meh -_- I don't fancy humor that much but still, the title interest me.
Guess it's not for you then. Gamers! is just a funny romcom. There isn't a serious plot at all... Unless it's used for parodies for a secondary character. :heh:

Kuroageha
2015-11-20, 18:58
I ignored the ranks for the first places but looking at them I noticed Index in the character list among the top.

And it's surprising because her role in the series took a huge dipe since NT started. I wonder why.

Or should I ask this on the respective character/novel thread?

OH&S
2015-11-20, 21:17
LNs:
07. Toaru Majutsu no Index series

Female MCs:
01. Misaka Mikoto (Index)
09. Othinus (Index)
10. Index (Index)
12. White Queen (Mitou Shoukan)
16. Shokuhou Misaki (Index)

Male MCs:
03. Kamijou Touma (Index)
04. Accelerator (Index)
13. Shiroyama Kyousuke (Mitou Shoukan)
20. Jinnai Shinobu (Zashiki Warashi)

Illustrators:
02. Haimura Kiyotaka (Index)
17. Mahaya (Zashiki Warashi)
26. Ikawa Waki (Mitou Shoukan)


A surprisingly good showing from the Kamachi series. While it's a shame that Zashiki Warashi couldn't rank in the Top 60 this year, it pretty nice seeing characters and illustrators from Kamachi's other series rank highly.

---

As a way to counteract repetitive entries in the top 10, I'm thinking that series/characters that regularly rank at the top should be placed in a 'Hall of Fame' of sorts and excluded from the rankings afterwards. Index, SAO and Oregairu seem to fit the bill of entering in the Hall of Fame. It gets kinda boring if there's complete dominance for more than 2 years in a row.

n0m@n
2015-11-20, 21:36
It did say Oregairu has entered Hall of Fame this year. So we might not see it in the ranking next year. Cant believe Oregiru entered it so quickly even though its relatively new series (2011).

OH&S
2015-11-20, 21:40
^
Wait. There actually is a Hall of Fame!?

n0m@n
2015-11-20, 21:53
That's what it says on the cover of 2016 Kono LN ga Sugoi;)

"Oregairu: Ranked 1st in the series ranking for 3 years straight. Entered the Hall of Fame".
http://livedoor.4.blogimg.jp/jin115/imgs/3/e/3ee541bc.jpg
It's written on the bottom-left of the cover inside the red-bubble.

Hell_ping
2015-11-20, 22:07
Well, Oregairu got the Yuuki Tatsuya treatment.

Hall of Fame doesn't necessarily mean actual retirement from the voting pool though. If that were the case, Mikoto would have been out since 2011.

Kuroageha
2015-11-20, 22:26
I think QHS meant a hall of fame for retirement.

n0m@n
2015-11-20, 23:59
True. I guess it cant gurantee that Oregairu's Hall of Fame would imply its excusion from the rankings.
Has Index been given the Hall of Fame in previous years? I think it was given the number 1 series in the past 10 years or something (in 2015 KonoRanobe ranking).

ACertainStark
2015-11-21, 00:38
HP Ranking (?) If I'm reading right:
http://i.imgur.com/JwKEH8x.jpg
OreGairu, SAO, and Index took top 3

Looks like Blood Sign placed 76 and Zashiki Warashi 91 in Best LN? Correct me if I'm wrong. And apologies if posted before.

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-21, 02:30
True. I guess it cant gurantee that Oregairu's Hall of Fame would imply its excusion from the rankings.
Has Index been given the Hall of Fame in previous years? I think it was given the number 1 series in the past 10 years or something (in 2015 KonoRanobe ranking).

It was only ranked #1 once. The rest of the years it was hovering around the top 5 after that.

Well, Oregairu got the Yuuki Tatsuya treatment.

Hall of Fame doesn't necessarily mean actual retirement from the voting pool though. If that were the case, Mikoto would have been out since 2011.

I don't think they would retire characters though.

ACertainStark
2015-11-21, 02:33
Index was given:
1st Place Best Novel Series in 2011
1st Place Best Novel Series of 10 Years in 2014

Not sure if that warrants Hall of Fame.

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-21, 03:28
Blood Sign's characters making it in the top 20 range was a surprise even though the series itself didn't make it into the 60s.

What about the other three, "Kanae no Hoshi", "Zettai naru Isolator" and "DOWL Masters"? Any word on how they were received in Japan?

julioalqae
2015-11-21, 03:36
Blood Sign's characters making it in the top 20 range was a surprise even though the series itself didn't make it into the 60s.

What about the other three, "Kanae no Hoshi", "Zettai naru Isolator" and "DOWL Masters"? Any word on how they were received in Japan?

it's good sign for blood sign (no pun intended :heh:), the story itself hasn't reach any impactful moment yet , but the characters gave a modal for being popular and in this character poll they are really a dark horse if you remember how hard to get a rank in character poll for a newcomer nonetheless, it's just kamachi trying to use an orthodox modern trope of OP mc and yandere heroine with his own style, i hope if it will become an anime it's not too hard to adapt. :heh:

Hell_ping
2015-11-21, 03:44
^It got 10th for the HP voting (the popularity vote). Means that it's popular with the readers, not the collabs and monitors.

From what I can see.

HP.

1. Oregairu
2. SAO
3. Index
4. Danmachi
5. NGNL
6. Mahouka (1-6 got licensed...)
7. Saekano
8. Rokka
9. Seishun Buta (Sakurasou author)
10. Mitou Shoukan
11. ImoSae
12. Hatamaou
13. Zashiki Warashi
14. Accel World
15. DAL
16. Heavy Object
17. Kono Subarashii
18. Ero-manga
19. Re: Zero Kara


Collab:

1. Nejimaki (Alderamin)
2. Eirun Last Code
3. Shuumatsu
4. Escape Speed
5. A Certain Pilot
6. Gamers
7. Shitayomi Danshi to Toukou Joshi (Mizuki Nomura's take on how to write a novel)
8. Tatakau Panya to Automaton Waitress
9-11: ImoSae, Saekano, Kono Koi

Monitor:

1. SAO
2. DRRR
3. Haganai

And they have the new series recommendations on Bookwalker. yay~ (http://bookwalker.jp/ex/sp/konolanove-2016/)

julioalqae
2015-11-21, 03:51
^It got 10th for the HP voting (the popularity vote). Means that it's popular with the readers, not the collabs and monitors.

it's already good sign enough though, because that's an popularity aspect that i expect for. :D

Hell_ping
2015-11-21, 04:03
All the Kamachi series made the top 20 (Heavy Object at 16). Same goes for the Kawahara main series (not GGO or Progressive)

I find it bemusing that of the 12 KonoSugois we had, Mikoto won 6 best girl awards.

Meanwhile, the only guys to repeat their wins (and win at least 2 times) are Hachiman, Kirito, I ...and Hideyoshi (do we seriously count him as a guy?)

julioalqae
2015-11-21, 04:07
All the Kamachi series made the top 20 (Heavy Object at 16). Same goes for the Kawahara main series (not GGO or Progressive)



is progressive counted to be a separated from SAO though? i always think that novel just a fixed form from early novel of SAO which is pretty a mess, i don't know if it will take different turn now or in the future from the current popular one.

Chaos2Frozen
2015-11-21, 04:12
Oh, Seishun Buta Yarou is by Sakurasou's author? How is that?

And I guess the "orthodox" method pays off lol.

Hell_ping
2015-11-21, 04:26
Oh, Seishun Buta Yarou is by Sakurasou's author? How is that?

And I guess the "orthodox" method pays off lol.

I consider it a better read than Sakurasou, but as usual, common sense isn't actually in play. (Bunny ears~)

Orthodox pays off. It's how Seira managed to sneak into last place for the girls even though Dress never made it in...

is progressive counted to be a separated from SAO though? i always think that novel just a fixed form from early novel of SAO which is pretty a mess, i don't know if it will take different turn now or in the future from the current popular one.

Well, GGO is obviously a different author, so they had a separate vote for it, and the same for Izaya (58).

To wit however, Heavy Object actually got a higher overall position at 66



(Bracket for Overall position)

HP.

1. Oregairu (1)
2. SAO (2)
3. Index (7)
4. Danmachi (8)
5. NGNL (6) <--Suspected MF Bunko J push
6. Mahouka (11)
7. Saekano (9)
8. Rokka (17)
9. Seishun Buta (Sakurasou author) (22)
10. Mitou Shoukan (76)
11. ImoSae (14)
12. Hatamaou (41)
13. Zashiki Warashi (91)
14. Accel World (27)
15. DAL (52)
16. Heavy Object (66)
17. Kono Subarashii (100)
18. Ero-manga (Unranked) <--Never expected this one
19. Re: Zero Kara (29)


Collab:

1. Nejimaki (Alderamin) (3)
2. Eirun Last Code (4)
3. Shuumatsu (5)
4. Escape Speed (10)
5. A Certain Pilot (13)
6. Gamers (15)
7. Shitayomi Danshi to Toukou Joshi (Mizuki Nomura's take on how to write a novel) (19)
8. Tatakau Panya to Automaton Waitress (20)
9-11: ImoSae, Saekano, Kono Koi (14, 9, 16)

Monitor:

1. SAO (2)
2. DRRR (18)
3. Haganai (12)

theshade1
2015-11-21, 05:00
Just heard about Seishun buta. The same pair as Sakurasou!!

Can't really find any info about the series tho.. :/

Saw the volume covers and each have unique titles, so is this like an episodic LN with self-contained stories in each novel or what??

larethian
2015-11-21, 11:01
What kind of story is Gamers? MC having a gamers ability like the gamers manhwa? or its a scifi/fantasy story?

if its juts humor then meh -_- I don't fancy humor that much but still, the title interest me.

It's a romCOM. Written by the author of Seitokai no Ichizon series. Humor is EX-rank to me. If you don't appreciate the stupid humor in Baka-Test or Seizon (novels), then this is not for you. :heh:

The story involves a group of people who love games. And the comedy arises because of the misunderstandings and the differing perspectives each of the main characters held towards the others in terms of the rabu-dynamics among the group. The protagonist bears some similarities to the protagonist of Otaria.

If I were to do summaries for the series, I can probably do it with just relationship charts from the perspective of each character after each chapter. Just thinking of that makes me laugh :heh:

ACertainStark
2015-11-21, 11:07
It's a romCOM. Written by the author of Seitokai no Ichizon series.

I read just that and I want to read it already. :heh:

tsunade666
2015-11-21, 15:02
It's a romCOM. Written by the author of Seitokai no Ichizon series. Humor is EX-rank to me. If you don't appreciate the stupid humor in Baka-Test or Seizon (novels), then this is not for you. :heh:


Written by the author of Seizon? then it would be good but its just that humor is fine but I won't be remembering it by the end of the day.

For me, a story with a serious plot would be always be remembered by how beautifully it was executed.

While I tolerate and read harem and humor or SoL stuffs. I just read them when I'm bored and not doing anything. Just to entertain myself but by the end of the day or by tomorrow. I would probably be forgetting it which is why I'm not much of a fan for romcom stories.

Zefyris
2015-11-22, 04:10
My post was mostly on the critic of the system for the most part.

For me it's less about the end result and rather the intention. I am fine with lesser known titles getting pushed, but only if they're truly interesting. Eirun does not seem like such a title to me (could glance at reviews, almost all terrible), where it is the total opposite for SukaSuka. Putting Eirun on there seem to invalidate their other efforts (and it's obvious that MF Bunko J's so heavily pushing this title), kinda like having a tiny piece of rat manure in a bowl of soup (ruins everything).

I do not blame collaborators having an agenda in mind, because this is their job. However, if they want to push a title, that title will get pushed. HP obviously is the mob mentality, so you are correct that their vote should have less weight, but Monitors are different. The fact for the top 10, collaborators have 2.5x the Monitor's weight does not sit well with me.

If I remember correctly, ever since they change the weighting system people give less and less attention to this publication (less votes too).

I understand your point of view, but ImO this would be worse if they separated it. Less peoples would care about the titles in mind. The balance needs to be conserved though. If the collaborators can push too easily any title they want in the top 5, that's not good either. ImO right now their voting power is a bit too high and need tweaking. Especially if they have the leniency of pushing a bad title (if like you said Eirun isn't good).

Still, I don't think that one badly pushed title invalidate their effort to promote the good ones either. I mean lots of "bad" (subjectively) titles are already in the top 10 thanks to the other groups of voters anywya, one more or one less doesn't really change anything. Although, if it's really the usual stuff from MF bunko J, then there was no reason that this becomes the number 1 new series over shuumatsuna either ImO. They should remember their priorities if they want to stay credible to their readers. As you said, we can understand that they have their own agenda/circumstances but if they lose the interest from their readers by going too far, this will not end good for them either.

Either way, I'd say that the titles they voted for this time seems to be mostly good choices. Leaving Eirun aside. If they wanted to promote a MF bunko J title that deserved it, Zetsushinkai no Solaris was deserving it for his second volume published this year more than the one for which they promoted that series last year, so it's not like they didn't had possibilities.

BTW, your avatar is intriguing me. Looking at the front part of the hair and your alias, it looks like it's Aikawa Jun (I'm currently reading the zaregoto series, 5/9 read), but she looks awfully young on the pic, + this doesn't look like the usual art style of the zaregoto illustrator either. What's the volume/series it's from?



Zeyfris said what new LN series would I want to see this year on this list somewhere back but if I could, I'd want to see Ken to mahou no fantasy by Romeo Tanaka, Hajimaranai Ragnarok to Owatteru Uchira no Live by Ou Jackson or fate prototype by Hikaru sakurai or Tamakou Shakou Dance-bu e Yokoso by senya mihagi. I hear they are pretty good

I see, I'll take note and I'll look into them to see if I can find something pleasing me among those, thanks.





EDIT : comments on the winner list :

Top 60 series:
01. Yahari Ore no Seishun Rabukome wa Machigatteiru. ->no surprise here. let's hope next year the top moves and that it will NOT be SAO instead. And by the way I don't think the volumes published this year were good enough to justify the first place at all. Most of them were not especially impressive.
02. Sword Art Online ->meh
03. Tenkyou no Alderamin ->very good choice, thumbs up this deserves all the collaborators votes it got
04. Eirun Last Code -> Since it seems reviews are quite negative, this may be purely commercial from the collaborators
05. Shuumatsu Nani Shitemasuka? Isogashii desuka?Sukutte Moratte Ii desuka? ->Best new title AFAIK, this title is beautiful and I'm really happy that it got the collaborators' support
06. No Game No Life ->This one deserved it last yar but not this year ImO
07. To Aru Majutsu no Index Series ->why is this still here with the current abomination that are the last few volumes?
08. Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darouka->deserves it less this year as well, the volumes were subpar
09. Saenai Heroine no Sodatekata ->don't know, but it's intriguing me a bit
10. Escape Speed ->don't know, but it's intriguing me a bit
11. Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei ->meh
12. Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai ->wow, some peoples dared to vote for it despite that last volume.
13. To Aru Hikuushi e no Seiyaku ->I'll have to read this soon
14. Imouto Sae Ireba Ii. ->that title makes me want to flee away from it...
15. Gamers! ->I read above that it's comedy but... that's the only thing I know about it~ Is that really that good?
16. Kono Koi to, Sono Mirai.->interesting
17. Rokka no Yuusha ->curious to see the part from the collaborators in this, is it small this time? Anyway, satisfying result, even if the two volumes of this year were far better than the one of last time even though the rank is lower.

19. Shitayome Danshi to Toukou Joshi ->looks interesting ?

25. Overlord ->If that edition is allowed then several titles from this edition deserved it far more than this one, like youjo senki or yuusha sama no oshishou sama ImO

28. Zetsushinkai no Solaris ->Huge drop of support from the collaborators it seems. The funny thing is, the volume this year was far better than the one last year. Looking forward to the next volumes, the main cast is here, and they're good

50. Chuuko demo Koi ga Shitai! ->That... that title :x

52. Date a Live ->was this so low before ?


Top 30 female characters:
01. Misaka Mikoto (Index) ->again....
02. Yunoshita Yukino (Oregairu) ->that's just last year in reverse.
03. Isshiki Iroha (Oregairu) ->really? Iroha?
04. Yuigahama Yui (Oregairu) ->Oregairu domination. Mobs voting to its finnest
10. Index (Index) ->Index in the top 10, that's just... ugh
11. Sinon (SAO)
13. Aiz Wallenstein (Danmachi) ->anime focusing a lot on Hestia fan service didn't change Ais> Hestia in this poll. If anything, they may have alienated the novels readers against Hestia with that adaptation...
20. Yatorisino Igzem (Alderamin) ->good choice, happy to see Yatori here
24. Fremy Speeddraw (Rokka) ->wow, Fremy in a popularity poll being ranked? nice. Thanks to the anime, i suppose.


Top 30 male characters:
01. Hikigaya Hachiman (Oregairu) ->same as last year
04. Accelerator (Index) ->one more push and Accelerator is before Touma, o go go
08. Totsuka Saika (Oregairu) ->wait, this one isn't in the right poll!... Oh he is.
11. Ikuta Sorouku (Alderamin) ->woot. Well deserved
12. Sakamaki Izayoi (Mondaiji) ->still going strong besides not being here a lot in the first Last Embryo volume

23. Adlet Mayer (Rokka) ->Nice! Another RnY character in a popularity poll, that's rare enough to enjoy it when it happens

28. Hans Humpty (Rokka) || Eirun Bazatt (Eirun) ->and another RnY char here. Nice.


Top 57 illustrators:
01. Ponkan⑧ (Oregairu) >Can't deny his illustrations are gorgeous, so that's actually more deserved than the first place for Oregairu.



Overall comment : Still no Magdala de Nemure, no KyouHora either, that's a bit sad. Very satisfied about #3 (alderamin), #5 (shuumatsuna), and #17 (rokka) though.

Mob voting as usual in the character polls. female side there's 4 Oregairu, 4 Index, 3 SAO, that's 11/30 characters with 3 titles. Especially oregairu and Index has 3 each in the top 10, that's 6/10 char with those 2...


BTW, I think that's supposed to be read zetsushinkai no solaris. Even the japanese readers don't seem very sure about it (there's not a single time a ruby to see the right pronunciation in that book...), but most think it's that way.

Allen
2015-11-22, 07:13
BTW, I think that's supposed to be read zetsushinkai no solaris. Even the japanese readers don't seem very sure about it (there's not a single time a ruby to see the right pronunciation in that book...), but most think it's that way.
Ok, changing to Zetsushinkai. And was the second volume better than the first one? Liked the first volume but I don't know if I would like to continue reading after all that suffering.

tsunade666
2015-11-22, 07:16
What kind of story is Zetsushinkai? if its about suffering train then I would probably liked it. But I prefer suffering with style and important to the plot than just senseless suffering.

Zefyris
2015-11-22, 07:35
Ok, changing to Zetsushinkai. And was the second volume better than the first one? Liked the first volume but I don't know if I would like to continue reading after all that suffering.

Yeah it's definitely better. And the team as it is in the end of the volume is promising for the next volume imo. I wasn't much a fan of the first volume btw. Too much death in too little time to appreciate most of those characters. Well the two who died because of Madara were nice though.

You should try the second if you liked the first imo.

BTW those madara types are the sickest type of Unders by far ImO. When one is around, that's really true despair for the water users. Talk about a nightmare. Those things are nasty.

What kind of story is Zetsushinkai? if its about suffering train then I would probably liked it. But I prefer suffering with style and important to the plot than just senseless suffering.

Survival horror in facilities in the bottom of the sea, with the main cast having supernatural abilities. So any mistake turn into horrible deaths and lots of regret for the others obviously.

larethian
2015-11-22, 09:36
Interesting. I know this is not really true, but there was a time when I thought MF writers must include harem romantic elements in their stories to write for MF :heh: Or maybe that's true but certain exceptions were allowed due to reasons we are not privy to.

Zefyris
2015-11-22, 09:49
There is no Ecchi at all btw, and no harem either. There's a small bit of romance but it's better that way since when a character die, well if that character was part of the romance the weight of the death will be far heavier.
But yes, I thought like you that it was kind of required, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe those novels are a try from the editor to widen the range of the buyers they're targeting, testing the answer from the customers for other genres?~

Kunagisa
2015-11-22, 13:11
BTW, your avatar is intriguing me. Looking at the front part of the hair and your alias, it looks like it's Aikawa Jun (I'm currently reading the zaregoto series, 5/9 read), but she looks awfully young on the pic, + this doesn't look like the usual art style of the zaregoto illustrator either. What's the volume/series it's from?

It is Jun alright; first book of the Saikyou series that Allen mentioned here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=5690479#post5690479). Artist is still 「take」 too (love her art (http://i.imgur.com/qEF2E1Q.jpg)).

larethian
2015-11-25, 00:52
I've gotten my copy of the mag:
http://imgur.com/a/BKcp6

One thing I'm cautious about taking monitor group into my consideration is the age group. All the series I love got zero or very low votes from them.

The point system remained the same as previous 2 years, which is supposed to reflect the following:
HP (homepage): what's popular now
Collaborators: good praiseworthy series to watch out for
Monitor: what teenagers/adolescents are reading now

Notable things (below comments represent only my opinion):
- Index got 0 points from collaborators haha; I forgot what they got for last year.
- SAO got votes from collabs, I'm not surprised because Alicization arc, setting-wise at least, is actually pretty good
- top 3 of collabs group got zero from monitor and very low from HP group, which shows why I have reason to believe HP is dominated by animefags who don't even read book reviews :heh:
- everyone gets 5 votes only, so if a person has 10 series he wants to vote for, he can only choose 5, which can explain why some of the notable series may not even show up.
- one of the most hyped tensei series (mushoku) didn't even make it; I'd like to believe that even monitor group are able to be discerning enough to not vote for it :heh: Don't know for sure of course :heh:

Since collabs agree with me that Alderamin is Da Best, I'll definitely read sukasukasuka, and probably give eirun a chance as well :heh:

Hell_ping
2015-11-25, 01:38
66% middle-high school girls for Monitor? Lol. Lots of zeroes under the category, most probably because they're either not animated, or the anime is not as prevalent. (but Overlord has a 0 for the Monitor for some reason...)

Kamachi works typically get 0 from the collabs, and that includes the past 2 years. (And I remember there was a phase when Narita's works typically score for a few years under collab)...only ones to score a big fat zero are Index, Aria, Baka Test, DAL and KagePro

Oregairu's HP alone would have made it second overall in the list. Alderamin's Collab points alright enough for its position.

Btw, lare, there should be a page including the top 30 for HP and top 10 for the other 2, mind scanning the page?

Shadow5YA
2015-11-25, 01:49
03. Isshiki Iroha (Oregairu) ->really? Iroha?


Iroha has had more development and arguably better chemistry with Hachiman than Yukino and Yui combined in less than half the volume count :heh:
She is the next major heroine after Yui and Yukino. Also thanks to Yukino's backwards development and the group's issues since volume 7, most of the witty banter that Yukino used to do with Hachiman went to Iroha.

If anything, I'm more surprised that Yukino's ranking didn't drop further because of how she has been behaving in volume 11, but I guess either family pressure is something that hits close to home for most of the readers, or people are just too invested on finally getting to see what Yukino's past is like since the beginning of the series :heh:

larethian
2015-11-25, 02:03
66% middle-high school girls for Monitor? Lol. Lots of zeroes under the category, most probably because they're either not animated, or the anime is not as prevalent. (but Overlord has a 0 for the Monitor for some reason...)

Kamachi works typically get 0 from the collabs, and that includes the past 2 years. (And I remember there was a phase when Narita's works typically score for a few years under collab)...only ones to score a big fat zero are Index, Aria, Baka Test, DAL and KagePro

Oregairu's HP alone would have made it second overall in the list. Alderamin's Collab points alright enough for its position.

Btw, lare, there should be a page including the top 30 for HP and top 10 for the other 2, mind scanning the page?

Here you go: http://imgur.com/cC5Bv02

Iroha has had more development and arguably better chemistry with Hachiman than Yukino and Yui combined in less than half the volume count :heh:
She is the next major heroine after Yui and Yukino. Also thanks to Yukino's backwards development and the group's issues since volume 7, most of the witty banter that Yukino used to do with Hachiman went to Iroha.

If anything, I'm more surprised that Yukino's ranking didn't drop further because of how she has been behaving in volume 11, but I guess either family pressure is something that hits close to home for most of the readers, or people are just too invested on finally getting to see what Yukino's past is like since the beginning of the series :heh:

Irohasu is tsundere done right, I'd say, no excessive violence :heh:

dniv
2015-11-25, 04:05
Meh too bad Index dropped in ranking. NT 14 happened too late to make much of a difference. :( Hopefully next year it'll improve again. Though it was nice to see Othinus on a list of favorites even after NT 9/10 were over and done with.

I'm interested in some of the new series that did well.

I want Kamijou to eventually beat Kirito... sigh... Kirito... is an absolutely terrible character... he IS cool... but he has NO personality AT ALL, NOT IN A GOOD WAY. :eyespin:

Misaka won. It obviously isn't exactly deserved because of the cult, but she did have a super good appearance in NT 13 so I suppose I'm satisfied anyway.

Too many popular oregairu characters... at least it's ending so the polls won't be skewed with tons of annoying voters... (other than Misaka...)

I don't follow this stuff enough... :p

theshade1
2015-11-25, 06:02
Iroha has had more development and arguably better chemistry with Hachiman than Yukino and Yui combined in less than half the volume count :heh:
She is the next major heroine after Yui and Yukino. Also thanks to Yukino's backwards development and the group's issues since volume 7, most of the witty banter that Yukino used to do with Hachiman went to Iroha.

If anything, I'm more surprised that Yukino's ranking didn't drop further because of how she has been behaving in volume 11, but I guess either family pressure is something that hits close to home for most of the readers, or people are just too invested on finally getting to see what Yukino's past is like since the beginning of the series :heh:

Iroha got pushed as f**k tho. Like compared to other side characters and even some main ones. It always felt like she was there even if her characters wasn't needed at that point. I'm sure if other side characters got the same push, they'd be more popular as well.

And yeah I agree that the author definitely didn't do Yukino's characters any favour whatsoever, so no wonder she lost a lot of votes. And given the relative push of Iroha vs Yui, its not that surprising that she was on top of Yui.

Zefyris
2015-11-25, 14:17
It is Jun alright; first book of the Saikyou series that Allen mentioned here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=5690479#post5690479). Artist is still 「take」 too (love her art (http://i.imgur.com/qEF2E1Q.jpg)).

So that's from there, I see. Heeehh that's Take too? It didn't see that way. I'm not a huge fan of his illustration in the volumes 1-5 of Zaregoto though. It's not bad either but...



Iroha has had more development and arguably better chemistry with Hachiman than Yukino and Yui combined in less than half the volume count :heh:
She is the next major heroine after Yui and Yukino. Also thanks to Yukino's backwards development and the group's issues since volume 7, most of the witty banter that Yukino used to do with Hachiman went to Iroha.

If anything, I'm more surprised that Yukino's ranking didn't drop further because of how she has been behaving in volume 11, but I guess either family pressure is something that hits close to home for most of the readers, or people are just too invested on finally getting to see what Yukino's past is like since the beginning of the series :heh:

Yes she got a lot of "development" lately. The thing is, that development feels unnecessary for the story. Even if you removed that development from her and pushed her back as a simple plot device, this wouldn't change the story right now.
Better chemistry with Hachiman? That's a weird thing to say. As friends, yes, but that's all. And also, I'd like to remind you something. that rank 3 isn't the "third most liked character in Oregairu". It's ranked third on all LN together. For a character who has almost relevance to the plot, that's ridiculous. Well Misaka is even worse on this in Index, so can't complain, maybe...

IceHism
2015-11-25, 15:18
No one cares if iroha has relevance to the plot as of this moment. People vote for their faves and waifus, not who they think is the best rounded character. The character poll is for fun, its not anything past that. Not like you would even get a good poll as there are way too many characters to already choose from

Shadow5YA
2015-11-25, 15:53
Yes she got a lot of "development" lately. The thing is, that development feels unnecessary for the story. Even if you removed that development from her and pushed her back as a simple plot device, this wouldn't change the story right now.
Better chemistry with Hachiman? That's a weird thing to say. As friends, yes, but that's all. And also, I'd like to remind you something. that rank 3 isn't the "third most liked character in Oregairu". It's ranked third on all LN together. For a character who has almost relevance to the plot, that's ridiculous. Well Misaka is even worse on this in Index, so can't complain, maybe...

Most of her development was in parallel to Hachiman's development, so I'm not sure how you can think she wasn't relevant. When Hachiman stuffed votes for the council (and in turn, hurt his relationship with Yukino), that was for Iroha.

When Hachiman was struggling to organize the Christmas festival, that was at Iroha's request. Volume 9 was the major turning point for Hachiman's character as well, where Iroha had a major role.


Better chemistry with Hachiman? That's a weird thing to say. As friends, yes, but that's all. And also, I'd like to remind you something. that rank 3 isn't the "third most liked character in Oregairu". It's ranked third on all LN together. For a character who has almost relevance to the plot, that's ridiculous. Well Misaka is even worse on this in Index, so can't complain, maybe...

I question what you believe Oregairu's focus is to begin with. Considering how either awkward or downright spiteful Hachiman is towards people, including himself, becoming geniune friends is a huge accomplishment for him. The series has always been about how Hachiman, Yukino, and Yui mature to be able to accept develop lasting, "genuine" relationships.
Iroha may not have much to do with Yukino, but when it came to Hachiman's issues with trying to shoulder every responsibility on his own, her problems with the student council were what led Hachiman to question his old methods of trying to shoulder the responsibility alone and finally start asking others for guidance.

Also, Iroha has had plenty of development hinting that while she was trying to win over Hayama, she is still steadily growing closer to Hachiman. Even if realistically she can't compete with Yukino or Yui, she has had plenty of development that readers can grow to like about her.

It's also pretty damn telling how major of a character she is with how often she shows up in the Service Club room despite not being an official member :heh:

Zefyris
2015-11-25, 16:29
THe story is about the relationship of the three main characters, and their growth together. In there, there is no Iroha. As I said, Iroha's role is merely a plot device. She brings situations for Hachiman. But she herself isn't important. It could be anyone else than her most of the time. What is important isn't herself, but the situation/request she brings. And that's why her development isn't important. Don't get me wrong, I always like seeing less important characters getting developed properly, so that's nice. But this doesn't change the fact that except for her role as a plot device, she is pretty much irrelevant. As I said, Misaka is worse on this though. She doesn't even have a plot device role anymore.

Kuroageha
2015-11-25, 18:11
I disagree, while you say anyone could be I say anyone else can't.
Look what kind of environment is Hachiman and answer honestly if those others can do it, in this case it's because it was her that it worked(thanks to some circumstantial situations).

larethian
2015-11-25, 20:51
No one cares if iroha has relevance to the plot as of this moment. People vote for their faves and waifus, not who they think is the best rounded character. The character poll is for fun, its not anything past that. Not like you would even get a good poll as there are way too many characters to already choose from

So true to me as well :heh: The collaborator poll is what is most 'useful' to me in watching out for quality unknown stuff. But the rest is more like interesting information about what the reader population thinks. :heh:

Shadow5YA
2015-11-25, 22:55
THe story is about the relationship of the three main characters, and their growth together. In there, there is no Iroha. As I said, Iroha's role is merely a plot device. She brings situations for Hachiman. But she herself isn't important. It could be anyone else than her most of the time. What is important isn't herself, but the situation/request she brings. And that's why her development isn't important. Don't get me wrong, I always like seeing less important characters getting developed properly, so that's nice. But this doesn't change the fact that except for her role as a plot device, she is pretty much irrelevant. As I said, Misaka is worse on this though. She doesn't even have a plot device role anymore.

I think it's pretty disingenuous to selectively dissect a character to claim the person is irrelevant while their actions are. Unlike say... Yukino's mother, Iroha has a distinct personality that grows and changes through frequent, direct interaction with the main cast. If that doesn't make her an important character, then what does?
What's stopping you from saying Yui is irrelevant, other than her role as Yukino's friend and rival?
Only Iroha could interact with Hachiman the way she does, and get him to react to her the way he does. Expecting an entirely different character like Haruno, or Shizuka, or Yumiko to act the way she does not work.

Also needless to say, but obviously all those people who voted for her don't believe her to be an irrelevant character who is nothing more than a plot device. There are also no rules stating that only main characters are eligible to be voted as well.

You don't seem to have a problem with Saika or Fremy being ranked :heh:

n0m@n
2016-10-22, 01:33
So it's that time of the year again.
Haven't been reading that much LN series this year. So I'm pretty clueless in terms of guessing what LNs will be ranked. Though seeing the ranking is always fun lol.
Since the release date is on 24th Nov, I guess we can get the rankings a day before if we are lucky.

Sacredus
2016-10-22, 02:43
What LN? What anime second season?

Lem
2016-11-17, 04:29
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxcOTDuUQAABxgF.jpg

n0m@n
2016-11-17, 04:47
Yeah, they blurred the part of the cover where they mention the winners. They start doing that since last year sadly...

Hell_ping
2016-11-17, 07:28
According to karoshi, it's overlord first.

Either way, welcome back, butthurt season.

EDIT: Image is way too small, but here's an uncensored version.

http://blog-imgs-100.fc2.com/y/a/r/yarakan/9784800263452.jpg

belatkuro
2016-11-17, 11:03
Ryuuou no Oshigoto? Can barely read it.

Hell_ping
2016-11-17, 11:36
Ryuuou no Oshigoto? Can barely read it.

That's correct, and it's a LN about Shogi. A young shogi champion takes in a 9 year old girl as a disciple.

Written by the author of No-rin. I have mixed feelings about this...

Kuroageha
2016-11-17, 11:40
Why not? Author shows dedication to research about certain themes, he did well with agriculture more than I expected.
So she might as well try Shogi. It will be fine as long he doesn't goes Saki or Prince of Tennis and start slaughtering dinosaurs.

belatkuro
2016-11-17, 11:44
Why not? Author shows dedication to research about certain themes, he did well with agriculture more than I expected.
So she might as well try Shogi. It will be fine as long he doesn't goes Saki or Prince of Tennis and start slaughtering dinosaurs.I'm getting mixed signals here :heh:

IceHism
2016-11-17, 12:26
How did overlord get #1? Its one of the most LNs of LNs and doesn't really stray from the convention in terms of the writing. Im not sure if grading on mostly content is a good thing.

Why not? Author shows dedication to research about certain themes, he did well with agriculture more than I expected.
So she might as well try Shogi. It will be fine as long he doesn't goes Saki or Prince of Tennis and start slaughtering dinosaurs.

I'd say saki would be an improvement. Anyone who can make something as well as Ritz writes saki is really good.

Edit: Did the chess ln get #1 and not overlord? I never had a high opinion of GA bunko when the only thing they are known for is danmachi

Kuroageha
2016-11-17, 13:58
I'm getting mixed signals here :heh:

2/3
It's obvious one was a mistake.

Hell_ping
2016-11-17, 18:43
Why not? Author shows dedication to research about certain themes, he did well with agriculture more than I expected.
So she might as well try Shogi. It will be fine as long he doesn't goes Saki or Prince of Tennis and start slaughtering dinosaurs.

Let's be honest, I'm happy for the author. But I'm not really going to say well-deserved (I don't know if it's just me being salty, but I don't really have a stake in any horse here) mainly because I find this year's contest to be relatively weaker compared to prior years (lesser renowned names out there now). It's like...the shelf life of LNs is really wearing out. Kinda feel melancholic (okay, yes, I'm getting older), you get what I mean?


Edit: Did the chess ln get #1 and not overlord? I never had a high opinion of GA bunko when the only thing they are known for is danmachi

Chess LN got no.1 for the LN format. Overload's printed down the tankabon format, and won no.1 under that category. Well, if you see the actual Overlord hard copy, you'll see that it's bigger than an ordinary LN, so I think they made a separate category out of it.

archoel
2016-11-17, 18:52
is eirun last code still popular?

larethian
2016-11-21, 10:27
ラノベ部門BEST10
1位:りゅうおうのおしごと!
2位:Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活
3位:とある魔術の禁書目録シリーズ
4位:ソードアート・オンライン
5位:ゴブリンスレイヤー
6位:メロディ・リリック・アイドル・マジック
7位:ゲーマーズ!
8位:弱キャラ友崎くん
9位:この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!
10位:この恋と、その未来。

単行本・ノベルズ部門BEST10
1位:オーバーロード
2位:物語シリーズ
3位:蜘蛛ですが、なにか?
4位:無職転生
5位:本好きの下剋上
6位:ニンジャスレイヤー
7位:吸血鬼になったキミは永遠の愛をはじめる
8位:転生したらスライムだった件
9位:忘却探偵シリーズ
10位:この世界がゲームだと俺だけが知っている

キャラ男性部門BEST10
1位:上条当麻
2位:キリト
3位:一方通行
4位:ナツキ・スバル
4位:比企谷八幡
6位:フジキド・ケンジ
7位:司波達也
8位:カズマ(このすば)
9位:空(ノーゲーム・ノーライフ)
10位:城山恭介(未踏召喚://ブラッドサイン)

キャラ女性部門BEST10
1位:御坂美琴
2位:レム
3位:めぐみん
4位:アスナ
4位:雪ノ下雪乃
6位:加藤恵
7位:白き女王(未踏召喚://ブラッドサイン)
8位:エミリア
9位:インデックス
10位:オティヌス

イラストレーター部門BEST10
1位:はいむらきよたか
2位:abec
3位:カントク
4位:三嶋くろね
5位:わらいなく
6位:ぽんかん
7位:深崎暮人
8位:しらび
9位:大塚真一郎
10位:鵜飼紗樹

Kuroageha
2016-11-21, 10:58
Best Light Novel
1位*:Ryuou no Oshigoto!
2位:Re:zero
3位:New Testament
4位:SAO
5位:Goblin Slayer
6位:Melody · Lyric · Idol · Magic
7位:Gamers!
8位:Weakling Character Tomosaki-kun
9位:KonoSuba!
10位:This love and its future

Colab
1位:Overlord
2位:Monogatari series
3位:Kumo
4位:Mushoku Tensei
5位:Hon Suki No Gekokujo Shisho Ni Naru Tame Ni Ha Shudan Wo Erandeiraremasen Dai1 Bu (and the winner for the longest tittle this year goes to!)
6位:Ninja Slayer (YEEEEEART!)
7位:Kyūketsuki ni Natta Kimi ha Eien no Ai o Hajimeru (Bungako Shoujo's author)
8位:Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken
9位:Oblivious Detective series by Nisio
10位:Kono Sekai ga Game dato Ore dake ga Shitteiru


Best Male characters Top 10
1位:Touma
2位:Kirito
3位:Accelerator
4位:Natsuki Subaru
4位:Hachiman
6位:Fujikido Kenji (YEEEEARRTTT!!)
7位:Oniisama from Mahouka
8位:Kazuma from Konosuba
9位:Sora from No Game no Life
10位:Kyousuke from Blood Sign

Best female top 10
1位:Misaka Mikoto
2位:Rem
3位:Megumin
4位:Asuna
4位:Yukinoshita Yukino
6位:Katou Megumi
7位:White Queen
8位:Emilia
9位:Index
10位:Othinus

Top 10 artist
1位:Haimura Kiyotaka (Toaru series, Sword Oratoria)
2位:abec (SAO)
3位:Kantoku (Henneko)
4位:Mishima Kurone (Akashic Records, Konosuba)
5位:Waranaiku (Ninja Slayer YEEEEEEEEEARRRT!)
6位:Ponkan (Oregairu)
7位:Misaki Kurehito (Saekano) Yeah I knew it, beautiful art but series didn't make it to the top.
8. Hisashi ( Netoge no Yome wa Onna no Ko Janai to Omotta?)
9位:Ootsuka Shinichiro (Re: Zero)
10位:Saki Ukai (Black Bullet)

*位 means place. 計劃 means plan.


Overview: More Web Novels are making it to the top while LN are falling slowly.

belatkuro
2016-11-21, 11:19
Best Male characters Top 10
1位:Touma
2位:Kirito
3位:Hachiman
4位:Natsuki Subaru
4位:Fujikido Kenji (YEEEEARRTTT!!)
6位:Sora from No game No Life
7位:Oniisama from Mahouka
8位:Kazuma from Konosuba
9位:Sora from No Game no Life
10位:Kyousuke from Blood SignYou wrote Sora twice(he's 9th). #3 is Accelerator.

Kuroageha
2016-11-21, 11:24
You wrote Sora twice(he's 9th). #3 is Accelerator.
You're right, fixed now.

Gundam Meister
2016-11-21, 11:29
The fact that Accelerator is number 3 in the list despite not having a major role in long time in the LN is pretty impressive must be the effects of the Accelerator manga spin off at work

belatkuro
2016-11-21, 12:11
Do we have the breakdown of the votes by HP, collab and monitors? I'd like to see which ones affected the rankings of the series.

Kuroageha
2016-11-21, 12:14
Maybe larethian has that info?

Hiss13
2016-11-21, 12:32
Surprised to see Blood Sign stuff at the top 10. Definitely need to catch up on that.

Though, Accelerator staying at #3 despite only having maybe two scenes in the LNs in the past two years is quite amusing.

IceHism
2016-11-21, 12:35
Feels like 2016 has been a rather slow year for LNs.

Also wtf that book ranking.

Hell_ping
2016-11-21, 12:36
Death, taxes and Mikoto coming in first

OH&S
2016-11-21, 15:08
These results are rigged I say. Why is Toaru still in the Top 10!?

Kuroageha
2016-11-21, 16:43
^
Said no one ever, welcome to the marketing and publicity industry.

bakato
2016-11-21, 18:21
This for real? Toaru has taken its rightful place over SAO in all categories! Hallelujah!

Wandering Soul
2016-11-21, 20:46
I'm just surprised to see that Blood Sign and some of their characters made it into the top 10.

Kenju of the Right
2016-11-21, 22:26
Amazing Kamijou-san, doesnt even have an anime and made it to #1. greatness in motion

Marcus H.
2016-11-21, 22:46
Two words to describe this: ENDURING DOMINATION.

Hell_ping
2016-11-23, 05:52
順位 総合  HP  協力者 作品(シリーズ)名
*1 399.22 *78.17 321.05 りゅうおうのおしごと!
*2 236.69 161.26 *75.44 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活
*3 191.54 191.54 **0.00 「とある魔術の禁書目録」シリーズ
*4 183.68 138.06 *45.61 ソードアート・オンライン
*5 179.06 *47.48 131.58 ゴブリンスレイヤー
*6 143.60 *26.06 117.54 メロディ・リリック・アイドル・マジック
*7 138.43 *47.20 *91.23 ゲーマーズ!
*8 127.79 *24.28 103.51 弱キャラ友崎くん
*9 126.16 110.37 *15.79 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!
10 124.40 *34.92 *89.47 この恋と、その未来。
11 118.72 *59.07 *59.65 灰と幻想のグリムガル
12 118.33 *60.44 *57.89 妹さえいればいい。
13 116.15 *45.98 *70.18 冴えない彼女の育てかた
14 114.39 *70.53 *43.86 「青春ブタ野郎」シリーズ
15 104.50 *16.78 *87.72 近すぎる彼らの、十七歳の遠い関係
16 100.60 *18.14 *82.46 とある飛空士への誓約
17 *98.61 *21.42 *77.19 俺を好きなのはお前だけかよ
18 *97.20 *65.62 *31.58 ダンジョンに出会いを求めるのは間違っているだ ろうか
19 *92.99 *50.89 *42.11 最果てのパラディン
20 *91.91 *25.24 *66.67 筐底のエルピス
21 *90.78 **8.32 *82.46 ストライクフォール
22 *86.15 *42.29 *43.86 ねじ巻き精霊戦記 天鏡のアルデラミン
23 *78.85 *78.85 **0.00 未踏召喚://ブラッドサイン
24 *77.23 **3.55 *73.68 アサシンズプライド
25 *72.71 *72.71 **0.00 ノーゲーム・ノーライフ
26 *70.02 *10.37 *59.65 エイルン・ラストコード ~架空世界より戦場へ ~
27 *67.94 *43.38 *24.56 ようこそ実力至上主義の教室へ
28 *65.30 *35.47 *29.82 アクセル・ワールド
29 *62.84 *45.29 *17.54 ソードアート・オンライン プログレッシブ
30 *59.62 *59.62 **0.00 ヘヴィーオブジェクト
31 *59.10 *11.73 *47.37 ざるそば(かわいい)
32 *55.34 *25.51 *29.82 ロクでなし魔術講師と禁忌教典
33 *53.49 **4.37 *49.12 小説の神様
34 *53.03 *37.24 *15.79 キノの旅 -the Beautiful World-
35 *52.88 *23.06 *29.82 ただ、それだけでよかったんです
36 *52.59 **8.73 *43.86 いもーとらいふ
37 *51.30 *51.30 **0.00 魔法科高校の劣等生
38 *50.48 *13.64 *36.84 血翼王亡命譚
39 *49.61 *19.78 *29.82 ゼロの使い魔
40 *49.10 *35.06 *14.04 エロマンガ先生
41 *48.77 **4.91 *43.86 その10文字を、僕は忘れない
42 *48.11 **6.00 *42.11 英雄都市のバカども
43 *47.82 **3.96 *43.86 バビロン
43 *47.82 **3.96 *43.86 異世界落語
45 *46.64 *20.33 *26.32 東京侵域:クローズドエデン
46 *43.86 **0.00 *43.86 無法の弁護人
47 *42.29 *42.29 **0.00 とある魔術の禁書目録×電脳戦機バーチャロン とある魔 術の電脳戦機
48 *41.95 *10.37 *31.58 薬屋のひとりごと
49 *41.48 *16.92 *24.56 ありふれた職業で世界最強
50 *41.21 **4.37 *36.84 ウロボロス・レコード

Posting this, and translating later.

EDIT:

1. Ryuuou
2. Re0
3. Index
4. SAO
5. Goblin Slayer
6. Melody Lyrik Idol Magik
7. Gamers!
8. Jaku Chara Tomozaki-kun (Weak character Tomozaki-kun)
9. Konosuba
10. Kono Koi to, Sono Mirai (This love and that future)
11. Grimgal
12. Imouto Sae Ireba ii (If Only I have a little sister)
13. Saekano
14. Seishun Buta series
15. Chika sugiru karera no, jū nana-sai no tōi kankei (So close, yet those 17 year olds are having a long distance relationship)
16. A Certain Pilot series
17. Ore o sukina no wa omae dake ka yo (The only one I like is you. )
18. Danmachi
19. Paladin of the End
20. Elpis at the Bottom
21. Strike Fall
22. Alderamin
23. Mitou Shoukan
24. Assassin's Pride
25. NGNL
26. Eirun's Last Code
27. Youkoso Zitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e (Welcome to the Classroom of Ability Supremacy)
28. Accel World
29. SAO Progressive
30. Heavy Object
31. Zarusoba (kawaii)
32. Rokudenashi Majutsu Koushi to Akashic Records(Akashic Records of the Bastard Magic Instructor )
33. Shousetsu no Kamisama (The God of novels)
34. Kino no Tabi
35. Tada, Sore dake de Yokattan desu (That alone is good enough)
36. Imouto Love
37. Mahouka
38. Ketsuyoku Ou Boumeitan (The Blood winged King [Though it should be queen in the context of this story] Exile Chronicles)
39. Zero no Tsukaima
40. Ero manga Sensei
41. Sono juu moji o, boku wa wasurenai (I could never forget those 10 words)
42. Eiyuu Toshi no Bakadomo (The group of idiots in the city of heroes)
43. Babylon (Gate of...wait, wrong series)
44. Isekai Rakugo (Rakugo is a form of Japanese verbal entertainment, comedic stories)
45. Tokyo Shiniki: Closed Eden (Tokyo Inroaded: Closed Eden)
46. Muhou no Bengonin (Lawless Guardian)
47. Toaru Majutsu no Virtual-On (The Index crossover with Virtual-On)
48. Kusuriya no Hitorigoto (Drugstore Soliloquy. Second word refers to a character speaking to ones)
49. Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou (From Common Job Class to the Strongest in the World)
50. Ouroboros Record

EDIT: Forgot to list the top ten with vote points. (It's a little small, so I might make a mistake with the figures)

Male:
1. Touma 345/130
2. Kirito 218/96
3. Accelerator 163/90
4. Subaru 160/73
4. 8Man 160/81
6. Ninja Slayer 143/62
7. Tatsuya 96/52
8. Kazuma 79/38
9. Sora 74/42
10. Kyousuke 71/33

Female:
1. Mikoto 345/129
2. Rem 164/68
3. Megumin 107/48
4. Asuna 103/46
4. Yukino 103/40
6. Megumi 99/37
7. White Queen 87/39
8. Emilia 81/41
9. Index 79/39
10. Othi-chan 76/45

belatkuro
2016-11-23, 08:26
So no monitor votes? Why? Though that explains why Ryuuou got 1st since it got a lot of collab votes. Index is all HP votes and no collab.

What are those numbers(345/130) for the characters?

And why is Yahari not there? Is it because it didn't release a volume this year?

Hell_ping
2016-11-23, 08:35
I think the monitor votes got combined into the collab vote this year.

To quote myself (For those who don't know how the scoring works)

総合 in this case is the combined total. Since 2011 to 2016, the total would contain three segments, but this year, it contains only two. There also used to be a 'monitor' points

HP is the public vote, fan voting from the readers, tabulated together. Series with huge fan popularity typically score well for this, like Index, SAO, but for some reason, Oregairu isn't in this vote.

協力者 is the collab vote. It used to be in two different categories, a 協力者 with different definitions, and a monitor vote. This time, the votes are combined together. Such votes are usually from those in the industry, like fellow authors, promotional staff, or those looking to adapt series. Series like Alderamin and Rokka in the past used to gain lots of votes under these categories, partially to increase the exposure.


For the characters, the first number refers to the total voting points. The second number refers to the total number of votes. (I couldn't see the figures clearly though)

Oregairu doesn't get a mention because there's no volume release this year.

Sacredus
2016-11-23, 17:21
Any chances for full characters ratings? Or this time they went with just 10 places instead of usual 30?

Kunagisa
2016-11-23, 23:38
33. Shousetsu no Kamisama (The God of novels)
43. Babylon (Gate of...wait, wrong series)

...

45. Tokyo Shiniki: Closed Eden (Tokyo Inroaded: Closed Eden)


These three stood out to me!

45 for obvious reason (https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=5865009#post5865009), but I do believe #33 got several reprints (https://twitter.com/sakomoko/status/772731993901502464) and was generally "received very well". This sold like 500 copies from a single shop at one point, which is pretty big I think. Is this really a light novel though, kinda hilarious cause there is this too (https://twitter.com/sakomoko/status/789352794008322048).


I actually really wanted to read Babylon since the writer is Nozaki Mado (he is scripting an original anime (https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=139300) for next year!!! HYPE), who's very awesome. Once again, however, is anything from Kodansha Taiga consider LN??? The stunning covers (imho) sparked my interest no doubt, and the description is fascinating.
http://taiga.kodansha.co.jp/author/m-nozaki.html

http://i.imgur.com/sD6iAvmm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/7yfJO7gm.jpg


Somewhat related, too bad Undead Girl Murder Farce isn't shown anywhere (recently adapted to a manga (https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=130573)). Would've been fun to see that on the list. Can see the volume 2 cover on the top left corner here.
https://twitter.com/kodansha_taiga/status/788684329060749312


Overall, the list is whatever, but just (pleasantly ... maybe) surprised to see these titles.

OH&S
2016-11-24, 04:56
順位 総合  HP  協力者 作品(シリーズ)名
*1 399.22 *78.17 321.05 りゅうおうのおしごと!
*2 236.69 161.26 *75.44 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活
*3 191.54 191.54 **0.00 「とある魔術の禁書目録」シリーズ
*4 183.68 138.06 *45.61 ソードアート・オンライン
*5 179.06 *47.48 131.58 ゴブリンスレイヤー
*6 143.60 *26.06 117.54 メロディ・リリック・アイドル・マジック
*7 138.43 *47.20 *91.23 ゲーマーズ!
*8 127.79 *24.28 103.51 弱キャラ友崎くん
*9 126.16 110.37 *15.79 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!
10 124.40 *34.92 *89.47 この恋と、その未来。
11 118.72 *59.07 *59.65 灰と幻想のグリムガル
12 118.33 *60.44 *57.89 妹さえいればいい。
13 116.15 *45.98 *70.18 冴えない彼女の育てかた
14 114.39 *70.53 *43.86 「青春ブタ野郎」シリーズ
15 104.50 *16.78 *87.72 近すぎる彼らの、十七歳の遠い関係
16 100.60 *18.14 *82.46 とある飛空士への誓約
17 *98.61 *21.42 *77.19 俺を好きなのはお前だけかよ
18 *97.20 *65.62 *31.58 ダンジョンに出会いを求めるのは間違っているだ ろうか
19 *92.99 *50.89 *42.11 最果てのパラディン
20 *91.91 *25.24 *66.67 筐底のエルピス
21 *90.78 **8.32 *82.46 ストライクフォール
22 *86.15 *42.29 *43.86 ねじ巻き精霊戦記 天鏡のアルデラミン
23 *78.85 *78.85 **0.00 未踏召喚://ブラッドサイン
24 *77.23 **3.55 *73.68 アサシンズプライド
25 *72.71 *72.71 **0.00 ノーゲーム・ノーライフ
26 *70.02 *10.37 *59.65 エイルン・ラストコード ~架空世界より戦場へ ~
27 *67.94 *43.38 *24.56 ようこそ実力至上主義の教室へ
28 *65.30 *35.47 *29.82 アクセル・ワールド
29 *62.84 *45.29 *17.54 ソードアート・オンライン プログレッシブ
30 *59.62 *59.62 **0.00 ヘヴィーオブジェクト
31 *59.10 *11.73 *47.37 ざるそば(かわいい)
32 *55.34 *25.51 *29.82 ロクでなし魔術講師と禁忌教典
33 *53.49 **4.37 *49.12 小説の神様
34 *53.03 *37.24 *15.79 キノの旅 -the Beautiful World-
35 *52.88 *23.06 *29.82 ただ、それだけでよかったんです
36 *52.59 **8.73 *43.86 いもーとらいふ
37 *51.30 *51.30 **0.00 魔法科高校の劣等生
38 *50.48 *13.64 *36.84 血翼王亡命譚
39 *49.61 *19.78 *29.82 ゼロの使い魔
40 *49.10 *35.06 *14.04 エロマンガ先生
41 *48.77 **4.91 *43.86 その10文字を、僕は忘れない
42 *48.11 **6.00 *42.11 英雄都市のバカども
43 *47.82 **3.96 *43.86 バビロン
43 *47.82 **3.96 *43.86 異世界落語
45 *46.64 *20.33 *26.32 東京侵域:クローズドエデン
46 *43.86 **0.00 *43.86 無法の弁護人
47 *42.29 *42.29 **0.00 とある魔術の禁書目録×電脳戦機バーチャロン とある魔 術の電脳戦機
48 *41.95 *10.37 *31.58 薬屋のひとりごと
49 *41.48 *16.92 *24.56 ありふれた職業で世界最強
50 *41.21 **4.37 *36.84 ウロボロス・レコード

Posting this, and translating later.

EDIT:

1. Ryuuou
2. Re0
3. Index
4. SAO
5. Goblin Slayer
6. Melody Lyrik Idol Magik
7. Gamers!
8. Jaku Chara Tomozaki-kun (Weak character Tomozaki-kun)
9. Konosuba
10. Kono Koi to, Sono Mirai (This love and that future)
11. Grimgal
12. Imouto Sae Ireba ii (If Only I have a little sister)
13. Saekano
14. Seishun Buta series
15. Chika sugiru karera no, jū nana-sai no tōi kankei (So close, yet those 17 year olds are having a long distance relationship)
16. A Certain Pilot series
17. Ore o sukina no wa omae dake ka yo (The only one I like is you. )
18. Danmachi
19. Paladin of the End
20. Elpis at the Bottom
21. Strike Fall
22. Alderamin
23. Mitou Shoukan
24. Assassin's Pride
25. NGNL
26. Eirun's Last Code
27. Youkoso Zitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e (Welcome to the Classroom of Ability Supremacy)
28. Accel World
29. SAO Progressive
30. Heavy Object
31. Zarusoba (kawaii)
32. Rokudenashi Majutsu Koushi to Akashic Records(Akashic Records of the Bastard Magic Instructor )
33. Shousetsu no Kamisama (The God of novels)
34. Kino no Tabi
35. Tada, Sore dake de Yokattan desu (That alone is good enough)
36. Imouto Love
37. Mahouka
38. Ketsuyoku Ou Boumeitan (The Blood winged King [Though it should be queen in the context of this story] Exile Chronicles)
39. Zero no Tsukaima
40. Ero manga Sensei
41. Sono juu moji o, boku wa wasurenai (I could never forget those 10 words)
42. Eiyuu Toshi no Bakadomo (The group of idiots in the city of heroes)
43. Babylon (Gate of...wait, wrong series)
44. Isekai Rakugo (Rakugo is a form of Japanese verbal entertainment, comedic stories)
45. Tokyo Shiniki: Closed Eden (Tokyo Inroaded: Closed Eden)
46. Muhou no Bengonin (Lawless Guardian)
47. Toaru Majutsu no Virtual-On (The Index crossover with Virtual-On)
48. Kusuriya no Hitorigoto (Drugstore Soliloquy. Second word refers to a character speaking to ones)
49. Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou (From Common Job Class to the Strongest in the World)
50. Ouroboros Record

EDIT: Forgot to list the top ten with vote points. (It's a little small, so I might make a mistake with the figures)

Male:
1. Touma 345/130
2. Kirito 218/96
3. Accelerator 163/90
4. Subaru 160/73
4. 8Man 160/81
6. Ninja Slayer 143/62
7. Tatsuya 96/52
8. Kazuma 79/38
9. Sora 74/42
10. Kyousuke 71/33

Female:
1. Mikoto 345/129
2. Rem 164/68
3. Megumin 107/48
4. Asuna 103/46
4. Yukino 103/40
6. Megumi 99/37
7. White Queen 87/39
8. Emilia 81/41
9. Index 79/39
10. Othi-chan 76/45

Further to the posted results, I thought it would be interesting to see how the Top 50 ranked when ordered by their HP and Collab points

Original rankings are in parentheses.


*1. Index (3)
*2. Re0 (2)
*3. SAO (4)
*4. Konosuba (9)
*5. Mitou Shoukan (23)
*6. Ryuuou (1)
*7. NGNL (25)
*8. Seishun Buta series (14)
*9. Danmachi (18)
10. Imouto Sae Ireba ii (If Only I have a little sister) (12)
11. Heavy Object (30)
12. Grimgal (11)
13. Mahouka (37)
14. Paladin of the End (19)
15. Goblin Slayer (5)
16. Gamers! (7)
17. Saekano (13)
18. SAO Progressive (29)
19. Youkoso Zitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e (Welcome to the Classroom of Ability Supremacy) (27)
20. Alderamin (22)
20. Toaru Majutsu no Virtual-On (47)
22. Kino no Tabi (34)
23. Accel World (28)
24. Ero manga Sensei (40)
25. Kono Koi to, Sono Mirai (This love and that future) (10)
26. Melody Lyric Idol Magic (6)
27. Rokudenashi Majutsu Koushi to Akashic Records(Akashic Records of the Bastard Magic Instructor ) (32)
28. Elpis at the Bottom (20)
29. Jaku Chara Tomozaki-kun (Weak character Tomozaki-kun) (8)
30. Tada, Sore dake de Yokattan desu (That alone is good enough) (35)
31. Ore o sukina no wa omae dake ka yo (The only one I like is you. ) (17)
32. Tokyo Shiniki: Closed Eden (Tokyo Inroaded: Closed Eden) (45)
33. Zero no Tsukaima (39)
34. A Certain Pilot series (16)
35. Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou (From Common Job Class to the Strongest in the World) (49)
36. Chika sugiru karera no, jū nana-sai no tōi kankei (So close, yet those 17 year olds are having a long distance relationship) (15)
37. Ketsuyoku Ou Boumeitan (The Blood winged King Exile Chronicles) (38)
38. Zarusoba (kawaii) (31)
39. Eirun's Last Code (26)
39. Kusuriya no Hitorigoto (Drugstore Soliloquy) (48)
41. Imouto Love (36)
42. Strike Fall (21)
43. Eiyuu Toshi no Bakadomo (The group of idiots in the city of heroes) (42)
44. Sono juu moji o, boku wa wasurenai (I could never forget those 10 words) (41)
45. Shousetsu no Kamisama (The God of novels) (33)
45. Ouroboros Record (50)
47. Babylon (43)
47. Isekai Rakugo (43)
49. Assassin's Pride (24)
50. Muhou no Bengonin (Lawless Guardian) (46)


*1. Ryuuou (1)
*2. Goblin Slayer (5)
*3. Melody Lyric Idol Magic (6)
*4. Jaku Chara Tomozaki-kun (Weak character Tomozaki-kun) (8)
*5. Gamers! (7)
*6. Kono Koi to, Sono Mirai (This love and that future) (10)
*7. Chika sugiru karera no, jū nana-sai no tōi kankei (So close, yet those 17 year olds are having a long distance relationship) (15)
*8. A Certain Pilot series (16)
*8. Strike Fall (21)
10. Ore o sukina no wa omae dake ka yo (The only one I like is you. ) (17)
11. Re0 (2)
12. Assassin's Pride (24)
13. Saekano (13)
14. Elpis at the Bottom (20)
15. Grimgal (11)
15. Eirun's Last Code (26)
17. Imouto Sae Ireba ii (If Only I have a little sister) (12)
18. Shousetsu no Kamisama (The God of novels) (33)
19. Zarusoba (kawaii) (31)
20. SAO (4)
21. Seishun Buta series (14)
21. Alderamin (22)
21. Imouto Love (36)
21. Sono juu moji o, boku wa wasurenai (I could never forget those 10 words) (41)
21. Babylon (43)
21. Isekai Rakugo (43)
21. Muhou no Bengonin (Lawless Guardian) (46)
28. Paladin of the End (19)
28. Eiyuu Toshi no Bakadomo (The group of idiots in the city of heroes) (42)
30. Ketsuyoku Ou Boumeitan (The Blood winged King Exile Chronicles) (38)
30. Ouroboros Record (50)
32. Danmachi (18)
32. Kusuriya no Hitorigoto (Drugstore Soliloquy) (48)
34. Accel World (28)
34. Rokudenashi Majutsu Koushi to Akashic Records(Akashic Records of the Bastard Magic Instructor ) (32)
34. Tada, Sore dake de Yokattan desu (That alone is good enough) (35)
34. Zero no Tsukaima (39)
38. Tokyo Shiniki: Closed Eden (Tokyo Inroaded: Closed Eden) (45)
39. Youkoso Zitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e (Welcome to the Classroom of Ability Supremacy) (27)
39. Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou (From Common Job Class to the Strongest in the World) (49)
41. SAO Progressive (29)
42. Konosuba (9)
42. Kino no Tabi (34)
44. Ero manga Sensei (40)
These received zero points.
45. Index (3)
45. Mitou Shoukan (23)
45. NGNL (25)
45. Heavy Object (30)
45. Mahouka (37)
45. Toaru Majutsu no Virtual-On (47)

Cosmic Eagle
2016-11-24, 09:07
These three stood out to me!

45 for obvious reason (https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=5865009#post5865009), but I do believe #33 got several reprints (https://twitter.com/sakomoko/status/772731993901502464) and was generally "received very well". This sold like 500 copies from a single shop at one point, which is pretty big I think. Is this really a light novel though, kinda hilarious cause there is this too (https://twitter.com/sakomoko/status/789352794008322048).


I actually really wanted to read Babylon since the writer is Nozaki Mado (he is scripting an original anime (https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=139300) for next year!!! HYPE), who's very awesome. Once again, however, is anything from Kodansha Taiga consider LN??? The stunning covers (imho) sparked my interest no doubt, and the description is fascinating.
http://taiga.kodansha.co.jp/author/m-nozaki.html

http://i.imgur.com/sD6iAvmm.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/7yfJO7gm.jpg


Somewhat related, too bad Undead Girl Murder Farce isn't shown anywhere (recently adapted to a manga (https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=130573)). Would've been fun to see that on the list. Can see the volume 2 cover on the top left corner here.
https://twitter.com/kodansha_taiga/status/788684329060749312


Overall, the list is whatever, but just (pleasantly ... maybe) surprised to see these titles.


45 place....is enough to save Tokyo Inroaded?

Hell_ping
2016-11-24, 09:16
Btw, just to note the number of voters this year.

HP - 733 Collab - 57

Those who voted for LNs: 469
Those who voted for Tankabon: 303
Those who voted for Female characters: 559
Those who voted for Male characters: 427
Those who voted for Illustrators: 301

Grading system is as follows.

For series, 1st place gets 10 points, 2nd gets 9, and all the way to 5th.

For characters and illustrators, 1st place gets 3 points, 2nd gets 2, and 3rd gets 1.

Age groups of those who voted:

Less than 12: 0.1%
12-15: 4.8%
16-18: 20.8%
19-22: 27.1%
23-25: 13.5%
26-29: 13.7%
30s: 15.2%
40s: 3.8%
50s: 0.5%
Undisclosed: 0.5%

Number of books voters have read:
1-10: 16%
11-25: 28%
26-50: 21%
76-100: 8%
101-200: 10%
More than 200: 7%

For tankabon rankings (too lazy to translate this one. After I translated the last ranking, I got people asking me what are the romanizations, so...):

Ranking Total HP Collab

*1 189.44 *96.45 *92.98 Overlord
*2 185.28 111.60 *73.68 Monogatari series
*3 175.51 *31.65 143.86 Kumo desu ga? Nani ka?
*4 133.47 *75.58 *57.89 Mushoku Tensei
*5 130.75 *36.02 *94.74 Honzuki no Gekokujou
*6 130.27 103.96 *26.32 Ninja Slayers
*7 116.25 *18.01 *98.25 Kyuuketsuki ni Natta Kimi wa Eien no Ai wo Hajimeru ~Long Long Engage (Well, this one is typically a LN, but 'Long Long Engage' is a tankabon compilation of the series.
*8 *89.41 *43.79 *45.61 Tensei Slime
*9 *85.69 *24.28 *61.40 'Boukyaku Tantei Series' (Nisio work again)
10 *70.74 *26.88 *43.86 Kono sekai ga Game da to, ore dake ga shitte iru
11 *70.48 *16.10 *54.39 Uchi no Musume no Tame Naraba, Ore wa Moshikashitara Maou mo Taoseru kamo Shirenai
12 *70.31 *12.41 *57.89 Karin wo Idaita Shoujo
13 *69.73 **8.32 *61.40 Senngoku Komachi Kuroutan
14 *59.96 *16.10 *43.86 Sono mugen no saki e
15 *58.16 *24.83 *33.33 Youjo Senki
16 *53.72 *13.37 *40.35 Jinrou e no Tensei, Maou no Fukukan
17 *52.78 *14.19 *38.60 Osanajimi no Jido hanbaiki ni Propose shita ikisatsu ni tsuite (Ahem......)
18 *52.45 **8.59 *43.86 Izakya Bottakuri
19 *46.49 **6.14 *40.35 Dai nana sekai no Radash VIllage
20 *41.93 **8.59 *33.33 Majou no tabitabi
21 *41.58 **1.23 *40.35 Yomuin-san wa Yuusha ja Arimasenno de
22 *39.65 **9.82 *29.82 Isekai Ryouridou
23 *39.36 **7.78 *31.58 Ranbou Ikari no Kaishin
24 *37.21 **9.14 *28.07 Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyusoukyoku
25 *36.88 **3.55 *33.33 Koushaku Reijou no Tashinami
26 *33.63 **2.05 *31.58 Isekai kara kaettara Edo nano de aru
27 *33.29 **8.73 *24.56 Tanaka ~Neneri equals kanojo inai reki no mahoutsuki
28 *31.21 **3.14 *28.07 Fairy Tale Chronicle
29 *28.22 *14.19 *14.04 Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari
30 *27.41 **1.09 *26.32 Teramegurbu?
31 *26.32 ***.** ***.** Hachi kabucchatta hime
32 *25.22 ***.** ***.** Watashi, Nouryoku-chi wa heikin dette itta yo ne!
33 *21.79 ***.** ***.** Titan Oddworth's Senshi-tai
34 *21.67 ***.** ***.** Yuusha-sama no oshishou-sama
35 *21.66 ***.** ***.** Sekai Souzou Kabushiki Gaisha
36 *21.28 ***.** ***.** Haruka Toudo no Kanan
37 *20.82 ***.** ***.** Bukihim no Koukyuu Monogatari
38 *20.56 ***.** ***.** Class marugoto Jingai Tensei
39 *20.45 ***.** ***.** Rougoku no Separate
40 *19.86 ***.** ***.** Tairiku eiyuusenki

順位 総合  HP  協力者 作品(シリーズ)名
*1 189.44 *96.45 *92.98 オーバーロード
*2 185.28 111.60 *73.68 「物語」シリーズ
*3 175.51 *31.65 143.86 蜘蛛ですが、なにか?
*4 133.47 *75.58 *57.89 無職転生 ~異世界行ったら本気だす~
*5 130.75 *36.02 *94.74 本好きの下剋上 ~司書になるためには手段を選んでいら れません~
*6 130.27 103.96 *26.32 ニンジャスレイヤー
*7 116.25 *18.01 *98.25 吸血鬼になったキミは永遠の愛をはじめる ~L ong Long Engage
*8 *89.41 *43.79 *45.61 転生したらスライムだった件
*9 *85.69 *24.28 *61.40 「忘却探偵」シリーズ
10 *70.74 *26.88 *43.86 この世界がゲームだと僕だけが知っている
11 *70.48 *16.10 *54.39 うちの娘の為ならば、僕はもしかしたら魔王も倒せるかも しれない。
12 *70.31 *12.41 *57.89 火輪を抱いた少女
13 *69.73 **8.32 *61.40 戦国小町苦労譚
14 *59.96 *16.10 *43.86 その無限の先へ
15 *58.16 *24.83 *33.33 幼女戦記
16 *53.72 *13.37 *40.35 人狼への転生、魔王の副官
17 *52.78 *14.19 *38.60 幼馴染の自動販売機にプロポーズした経緯につい て。
18 *52.45 **8.59 *43.86 居酒屋ぼったくり
19 *46.49 **6.14 *40.35 第七異世界のラダッシュ村
20 *41.93 **8.59 *33.33 魔女の旅々
21 *41.58 **1.23 *40.35 用務員さんは勇者じゃありませんので
22 *39.65 **9.82 *29.82 異世界料理道
23 *39.36 **7.78 *31.58 ランボー怒りの改新
24 *37.21 **9.14 *28.07 デスマーチからはじまる異世界狂想曲
25 *36.88 **3.55 *33.33 公爵令嬢の嗜み
26 *33.63 **2.05 *31.58 異世界から帰ったら江戸なのである
27 *33.29 **8.73 *24.56 田中 ~年齢イコール彼女いない歴の魔法使い~
28 *31.21 **3.14 *28.07 フェアリーテイル・クロニクル ~空気読まない異世界ラ イフ~
29 *28.22 *14.19 *14.04 盾の勇者の成り上がり
30 *27.41 **1.09 *26.32 てらめぐりぶ?
31 *26.32 ***.** ***.** 鉢かぶっちゃった姫
32 *25.22 ***.** ***.** 私、能力値は平均でって言ったよね!
33 *21.79 ***.** ***.** ティタン アッズワースの戦士隊
34 *21.67 ***.** ***.** 勇者様のお師匠様
35 *21.66 ***.** ***.** 世界創造株式会社
36 *21.28 ***.** ***.** 遙か凍土のカナン
37 *20.82 ***.** ***.** 武姫の後宮物語
38 *20.56 ***.** ***.** クラスまるごと人外転生
39 *20.45 ***.** ***.** 牢獄のセプテット
40 *19.86 ***.** ***.** 大陸英雄戦記

Character rankings (First value is total points/Second is total number of votes)

Female:
*1 343/129 Death, Taxes and Mikoto getting first
*2 164/*68 Rem
*3 107/*48 Megumin
*4 103/*46 Asuna
*4 103/*40 Yukinon
*6 *89/*37 Megumi (Katou)
*7 *87/*39 White Queen
*8 *81/*41 Emilia
*9 *79/*39 Index
10 *76/*45 Othi-chan
11 *69/*30 Sinon (Shino Asada)
12 *63/*39 The lvl 5 who can't run
13 *55/*25 Ai Hinazura (Ryuuou's heroine, voiced by Rina Hidaka in the Drama CD)
14 *53/*26 Irohasu
15 *50/*32 Sora (NGNL)
15 *50/*22 Mai Sakurajima (Seishun Buta's heroine)
17 *47/*23 Alice Synthesis 30
18 *42/*16 Yamoto Koki (Ninja Slayer)
18 *42/*16 Nancy Lee (Ninja Slayer)
20 *35/*20 Mary (Grimgal)
20 *35/*16 Useless Goddess
22 *34/*23 Miyuki
23 *32/*14 Kino(shita)
24 *31/*14 Ginko Sora (Another of the heroines. Voiced by Hisako Kanemoto in the Drama CD))
25 *29/*14 Yatorishino Igsem
25 *29/*11 Shitabi Ako (Melody Lyrik Idol Magik)(メロディ・リリック・アイドル・マジック)
27 *25/*12 Miyako Shirakawa (But she's not the little sister in 'Imouto Sae Ireba ii'
28 *24/*12 No senpai, this is our fight.
28 *24/*11 Yui. Which one? Obviously the orange hair one
28 *24/*10 Main (Rozemain) From the Honzuki no Gekokukjou series.

*1 345/130 Genkoro Genkoro
*2 218/*96 Walking Hax
*3 163/*80 Accelerated
*4 160/*73 KonoSubaru
*4 160/*61 8Man
*6 143/*52 Not sure if Ninja Slayer, or Ryu Hayabusa
*7 *96/*52 Oniisama oniisama oniisama
*8 *79/*38 Yes, I'm Kazuma!
*9 *74/*42 Sora (NGNL)
*9 *74/*33 Kyousuke (Blood Sign)
11 *73/*37 Bell Cranel
12 *72/*33 Sakuta Azusagawa (Seishun Buta's protagonist)
13 *62/*29 Goblin Slayer
14 *55/*26 Itka Solork
15 *50/*19 William G Mariblood (Paladin of the End)
16 *46/*23 Haruhiro (Grimgal)
17 *44/*17 Ainz Ooal Gown
18 *43/*21 Wilhelm van Astrea (Re0)
19 *40/*18 Glenn Raders (Akashic Records)
19 *40/*17 Itsuki Hashima (Siscon author who has no sister...)
21 *37/*20 Yaichi Kuzuryuu (Ryuuou protagonist, voiced by Yuuma Uchida in the drama CD)
21 *37/*20 Ikki Kurogane (Rakudai)
23 *33/*18 Maou Sadao (Hatamaou)
23 *33/*17 Kiyotaka Ayanokouji (Youkoso Kitsuryoku)
25 *32/*16 Kinji Tohyama (Hidan no Aria)
26 *31/*15 Arararararararararagi (The series where toothbrushing has to be licensed)
27 *28/*12 Mitsuka Souji (Twintails)
28 *27/*13 Shinobu Jinnai (Zashiki Warashi)
28 *27/*12 Izayoi Sakamaki (Mondaiji)
30 *23/*17 Kakeru Kamisato (Index)

Kuroageha
2016-11-24, 12:45
Fujikido Kenji is Ninja Slayer.

larethian
2016-11-24, 20:40
I don't think HP and collab are given same weightage unless they changed it.
And monitor group seems to be removed rather than merged. It won't make sense to merge them with collab since their vote distribution is quite different. For the more popular series, Monitor group tends to follow HP trends more and may not really serve much of a purpose; their taste as adolescents despite having read 51 books or more are similar to the general public. This is my opinion. I guess the magazine will state the details of their changes though I'm not getting the mag this year since I'm mostly out of touch and don't feel like picking up a lot of new stuff to read.

Ryuuou is great read especially for my taste but seems over-pushed. Or maybe the later volumes are just that great I'm not sure since I'm not caught up. Or maybe it was over-pushed because there isn't much notable new stuff to push. I don't like having a loli disciple to add to the shuraba, but I guess it needs to have some generic popular element to stay 'relevant'; great stories that don't have some kind of pandering or cliche element can never become popular with majority of otakus it seems (I think).

What makes Ryuuou a lot better than No-rin is not really just the research and the fact that it receives editorial supervision from a Kansai pro shogi unit (baring some similarities to the setting), but that the characters are really more interesting, and there is a 'battle element' in the story on top of a 'coolness' factor; these 3 areas are severely lacking or even absent in No-rin (again my opinion). The humour can be a hit or miss though. I'm shocked that not even the manga is scantalated.

I've been following Gangan GA channel (because I like to watch/hear seiyuu personality hosts) since early this year and that's where I learned about Ryuuou. The LN, manga, and drama CD (with considerable star power; at least I know all the seiyuus in it) were all launched at the same time as part of GA's 10-year anniversary campaign. One thing about GA group in recent years is that they have really upped their promotional and marketing efforts by quite a few notches. I would say they have even more presence than Kadokawa subs in my radar. I even bought a number of new series from GA because of their marketing, but unfortunately they were around average and some I hadn't even finished the first volumes (and may be prejudging).

RE:Zero is likely going to get stronger with upcoming arcs in LN format, the LN version also manages to polish the original WN reasonably well (wrt style, dialogue, prose, redundant and meaningless developments imo :heh:). I hope the LN continues to make smart condensation of some stuff, because the arcs are getting ridiculously longer and longer and if it continues, I doubt I'd have the energy and attention span to follow it anymore. I used to love this kind of pattern but no longer :heh:

As for the big 3 of Dengeki, I've stopped reading them completely. I think Kawahara's story-telling is still good and the best among the 3, but I can't find the time ever since I fell behind for SAO and can't be bothered really. Mahouka writer made 2 big lies and I gave up on it after the feeling of being cheated; the detailed setting is still amazing to me and the biggest attraction factor to me and I would still regard it as the best detailed setting among everything I've read despite having dropped it. As for Index, I just felt it became a yawn-fest for me at some point in time, and can't seem to follow it anymore. I guess I just prefer either light-hearted stuff or newer kind of story/developments. Purely my opinion and based on own preference.

OH&S
2016-11-25, 03:57
Btw, just to note the number of voters this year.

HP - 733 Collab - 57

Those who voted for LNs: 469
Those who voted for Tankabon: 303
Those who voted for Female characters: 559
Those who voted for Male characters: 427
Those who voted for Illustrators: 301

Grading system is as follows.

For series, 1st place gets 10 points, 2nd gets 9, and all the way to 5th.

For characters and illustrators, 1st place gets 3 points, 2nd gets 2, and 3rd gets 1.

Age groups of those who voted:

Less than 12: 0.1%
12-15: 4.8%
16-18: 20.8%
19-22: 27.1%
23-25: 13.5%
26-29: 13.7%
30s: 15.2%
40s: 3.8%
50s: 0.5%
Undisclosed: 0.5%

Number of books voters have read:
1-10: 16%
11-25: 28%
26-50: 21%
76-100: 8%
101-200: 10%
More than 200: 7%

For tankabon rankings (too lazy to translate this one. After I translated the last ranking, I got people asking me what are the romanizations, so...):

Ranking Total HP Collab

*1 189.44 *96.45 *92.98 Overlord
*2 185.28 111.60 *73.68 Monogatari series
*3 175.51 *31.65 143.86 Kumo desu ga? Nani ka?
*4 133.47 *75.58 *57.89 Mushoku Tensei
*5 130.75 *36.02 *94.74 Honzuki no Gekokujou
*6 130.27 103.96 *26.32 Ninja Slayers
*7 116.25 *18.01 *98.25 Kyuuketsuki ni Natta Kimi wa Eien no Ai wo Hajimeru ~Long Long Engage (Well, this one is typically a LN, but 'Long Long Engage' is a tankabon compilation of the series.
*8 *89.41 *43.79 *45.61 Tensei Slime
*9 *85.69 *24.28 *61.40 'Boukyaku Tantei Series' (Nisio work again)
10 *70.74 *26.88 *43.86 Kono sekai ga Game da to, ore dake ga shitte iru
11 *70.48 *16.10 *54.39 Uchi no Musume no Tame Naraba, Ore wa Moshikashitara Maou mo Taoseru kamo Shirenai
12 *70.31 *12.41 *57.89 Karin wo Idaita Shoujo
13 *69.73 **8.32 *61.40 Senngoku Komachi Kuroutan
14 *59.96 *16.10 *43.86 Sono mugen no saki e
15 *58.16 *24.83 *33.33 Youjo Senki
16 *53.72 *13.37 *40.35 Jinrou e no Tensei, Maou no Fukukan
17 *52.78 *14.19 *38.60 Osanajimi no Jido hanbaiki ni Propose shita ikisatsu ni tsuite (Ahem......)
18 *52.45 **8.59 *43.86 Izakya Bottakuri
19 *46.49 **6.14 *40.35 Dai nana sekai no Radash VIllage
20 *41.93 **8.59 *33.33 Majou no tabitabi
21 *41.58 **1.23 *40.35 Yomuin-san wa Yuusha ja Arimasenno de
22 *39.65 **9.82 *29.82 Isekai Ryouridou
23 *39.36 **7.78 *31.58 Ranbou Ikari no Kaishin
24 *37.21 **9.14 *28.07 Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyusoukyoku
25 *36.88 **3.55 *33.33 Koushaku Reijou no Tashinami
26 *33.63 **2.05 *31.58 Isekai kara kaettara Edo nano de aru
27 *33.29 **8.73 *24.56 Tanaka ~Neneri equals kanojo inai reki no mahoutsuki
28 *31.21 **3.14 *28.07 Fairy Tale Chronicle
29 *28.22 *14.19 *14.04 Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari
30 *27.41 **1.09 *26.32 Teramegurbu?
31 *26.32 ***.** ***.** Hachi kabucchatta hime
32 *25.22 ***.** ***.** Watashi, Nouryoku-chi wa heikin dette itta yo ne!
33 *21.79 ***.** ***.** Titan Oddworth's Senshi-tai
34 *21.67 ***.** ***.** Yuusha-sama no oshishou-sama
35 *21.66 ***.** ***.** Sekai Souzou Kabushiki Gaisha
36 *21.28 ***.** ***.** Haruka Toudo no Kanan
37 *20.82 ***.** ***.** Bukihim no Koukyuu Monogatari
38 *20.56 ***.** ***.** Class marugoto Jingai Tensei
39 *20.45 ***.** ***.** Rougoku no Separate
40 *19.86 ***.** ***.** Tairiku eiyuusenki

順位 総合  HP  協力者 作品(シリーズ)名
*1 189.44 *96.45 *92.98 オーバーロード
*2 185.28 111.60 *73.68 「物語」シリーズ
*3 175.51 *31.65 143.86 蜘蛛ですが、なにか?
*4 133.47 *75.58 *57.89 無職転生 ~異世界行ったら本気だす~
*5 130.75 *36.02 *94.74 本好きの下剋上 ~司書になるためには手段を選んでいら れません~
*6 130.27 103.96 *26.32 ニンジャスレイヤー
*7 116.25 *18.01 *98.25 吸血鬼になったキミは永遠の愛をはじめる ~L ong Long Engage
*8 *89.41 *43.79 *45.61 転生したらスライムだった件
*9 *85.69 *24.28 *61.40 「忘却探偵」シリーズ
10 *70.74 *26.88 *43.86 この世界がゲームだと僕だけが知っている
11 *70.48 *16.10 *54.39 うちの娘の為ならば、僕はもしかしたら魔王も倒せるかも しれない。
12 *70.31 *12.41 *57.89 火輪を抱いた少女
13 *69.73 **8.32 *61.40 戦国小町苦労譚
14 *59.96 *16.10 *43.86 その無限の先へ
15 *58.16 *24.83 *33.33 幼女戦記
16 *53.72 *13.37 *40.35 人狼への転生、魔王の副官
17 *52.78 *14.19 *38.60 幼馴染の自動販売機にプロポーズした経緯につい て。
18 *52.45 **8.59 *43.86 居酒屋ぼったくり
19 *46.49 **6.14 *40.35 第七異世界のラダッシュ村
20 *41.93 **8.59 *33.33 魔女の旅々
21 *41.58 **1.23 *40.35 用務員さんは勇者じゃありませんので
22 *39.65 **9.82 *29.82 異世界料理道
23 *39.36 **7.78 *31.58 ランボー怒りの改新
24 *37.21 **9.14 *28.07 デスマーチからはじまる異世界狂想曲
25 *36.88 **3.55 *33.33 公爵令嬢の嗜み
26 *33.63 **2.05 *31.58 異世界から帰ったら江戸なのである
27 *33.29 **8.73 *24.56 田中 ~年齢イコール彼女いない歴の魔法使い~
28 *31.21 **3.14 *28.07 フェアリーテイル・クロニクル ~空気読まない異世界ラ イフ~
29 *28.22 *14.19 *14.04 盾の勇者の成り上がり
30 *27.41 **1.09 *26.32 てらめぐりぶ?
31 *26.32 ***.** ***.** 鉢かぶっちゃった姫
32 *25.22 ***.** ***.** 私、能力値は平均でって言ったよね!
33 *21.79 ***.** ***.** ティタン アッズワースの戦士隊
34 *21.67 ***.** ***.** 勇者様のお師匠様
35 *21.66 ***.** ***.** 世界創造株式会社
36 *21.28 ***.** ***.** 遙か凍土のカナン
37 *20.82 ***.** ***.** 武姫の後宮物語
38 *20.56 ***.** ***.** クラスまるごと人外転生
39 *20.45 ***.** ***.** 牢獄のセプテット
40 *19.86 ***.** ***.** 大陸英雄戦記

Character rankings (First value is total points/Second is total number of votes)

Female:
*1 343/129 Death, Taxes and Mikoto getting first
*2 164/*68 Rem
*3 107/*48 Megumin
*4 103/*46 Asuna
*4 103/*40 Yukinon
*6 *89/*37 Megumi (Katou)
*7 *87/*39 White Queen
*8 *81/*41 Emilia
*9 *79/*39 Index
10 *76/*45 Othi-chan
11 *69/*30 Sinon (Shino Asada)
12 *63/*39 The lvl 5 who can't run
13 *55/*25 Ai Hinazura (Ryuuou's heroine, voiced by Rina Hidaka in the Drama CD)
14 *53/*26 Irohasu
15 *50/*32 Sora (NGNL)
15 *50/*22 Mai Sakurajima (Seishun Buta's heroine)
17 *47/*23 Alice Synthesis 30
18 *42/*16 Yamoto Koki (Ninja Slayer)
18 *42/*16 Nancy Lee (Ninja Slayer)
20 *35/*20 Mary (Grimgal)
20 *35/*16 Useless Goddess
22 *34/*23 Miyuki
23 *32/*14 Kino(shita)
24 *31/*14 Ginko Sora (Another of the heroines. Voiced by Hisako Kanemoto in the Drama CD))
25 *29/*14 Yatorishino Igsem
25 *29/*11 Shitabi Ako (Melody Lyrik Idol Magik)(メロディ・リリック・アイドル・マジック)
27 *25/*12 Miyako Shirakawa (But she's not the little sister in 'Imouto Sae Ireba ii'
28 *24/*12 No senpai, this is our fight.
28 *24/*11 Yui. Which one? Obviously the orange hair one
28 *24/*10 Main (Rozemain) From the Honzuki no Gekokukjou series.

*1 345/130 Genkoro Genkoro
*2 218/*96 Walking Hax
*3 163/*80 Accelerated
*4 160/*73 KonoSubaru
*4 160/*61 8Man
*6 143/*52 Not sure if Ninja Slayer, or Ryu Hayabusa
*7 *96/*52 Oniisama oniisama oniisama
*8 *79/*38 Yes, I'm Kazuma!
*9 *74/*42 Sora (NGNL)
*9 *74/*33 Kyousuke (Blood Sign)
11 *73/*37 Bell Cranel
12 *72/*33 Sakuta Azusagawa (Seishun Buta's protagonist)
13 *62/*29 Goblin Slayer
14 *55/*26 Itka Solork
15 *50/*19 William G Mariblood (Paladin of the End)
16 *46/*23 Haruhiro (Grimgal)
17 *44/*17 Ainz Ooal Gown
18 *43/*21 Wilhelm van Astrea (Re0)
19 *40/*18 Glenn Raders (Akashic Records)
19 *40/*17 Itsuki Hashima (Siscon author who has no sister...)
21 *37/*20 Yaichi Kuzuryuu (Ryuuou protagonist, voiced by Yuuma Uchida in the drama CD)
21 *37/*20 Ikki Kurogane (Rakudai)
23 *33/*18 Maou Sadao (Hatamaou)
23 *33/*17 Kiyotaka Ayanokouji (Youkoso Kitsuryoku)
25 *32/*16 Kinji Tohyama (Hidan no Aria)
26 *31/*15 Arararararararararagi (The series where toothbrushing has to be licensed)
27 *28/*12 Mitsuka Souji (Twintails)
28 *27/*13 Shinobu Jinnai (Zashiki Warashi)
28 *27/*12 Izayoi Sakamaki (Mondaiji)
30 *23/*17 Kakeru Kamisato (Index)

Similar to my previous post, here are the Top 30 Tankabon ordered by their HP and Collab votes:


1. Monogatari series (2)
2. Ninja Slayer (6)
3. Overlord (1)
4. Mushoku Tensei (4)
5. Tensei Slime (8)
6. Honzuki no Gekokujou (5)
7. Kumo desu ga? Nani ka? (3)
8. Kono sekai ga Game da to, ore dake ga shitte iru (10)
9. Youjo Senki (15)
10. Boukyaku Tantei Series' (9)
11. Kyuuketsuki ni Natta Kimi wa Eien no Ai wo Hajimeru ~Long Long Engage (7)
12. Uchi no Musume no Tame Naraba, Ore wa Moshikashitara Maou mo Taoseru kamo Shirenai (11)
12. Sono mugen no saki e (14)
14. Osanajimi no Jido hanbaiki ni Propose shita ikisatsu ni tsuite (17)
14. Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari (29)
16. Jinrou e no Tensei, Maou no Fukukan (16)
17. Karin wo Idaita Shoujo (12)
18. Isekai Ryouridou (22)
19. Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyusoukyoku (24)
20. Tanaka ~Neneri equals kanojo inai reki no mahoutsuki (27)
21. Izakya Bottakuri (18)
21. Majou no tabitabi (20)
23. Senngoku Komachi Kuroutan (13)
24. Ranbou Ikari no Kaishin (23)
25. Dai nana sekai no Radash VIllage (19)
26. Koushaku Reijou no Tashinami (25)
27. Fairy Tale Chronicle (28)
28. Isekai kara kaettara Edo nano de aru (26)
29. Yomuin-san wa Yuusha ja Arimasenno de (21)
30. Teramegurbu? (30)


1. Kumo desu ga? Nani ka? (3)
2. Kyuuketsuki ni Natta Kimi wa Eien no Ai wo Hajimeru ~Long Long Engage (7)
3. Honzuki no Gekokujou (5)
4. Overlord (1)
5. Monogatari series (2)
6. Boukyaku Tantei Series' (9)
6. Senngoku Komachi Kuroutan (13)
8. Mushoku Tensei (4)
8. Karin wo Idaita Shoujo (12)
10. Uchi no Musume no Tame Naraba, Ore wa Moshikashitara Maou mo Taoseru kamo Shirenai (11)
11. Tensei Slime (8)
12. Kono sekai ga Game da to, ore dake ga shitte iru (10)
12. Sono mugen no saki e (14)
12. Izakya Bottakuri (18)
15. Jinrou e no Tensei, Maou no Fukukan (16)
15. Dai nana sekai no Radash VIllage (19)
15. Yomuin-san wa Yuusha ja Arimasenno de (21)
18. Osanajimi no Jido hanbaiki ni Propose shita ikisatsu ni tsuite (17)
19. Youjo Senki (15)
19. Majou no tabitabi (20)
19. Koushaku Reijou no Tashinami (25)
22. Ranbou Ikari no Kaishin (23)
22. Isekai kara kaettara Edo nano de aru (26)
24. Isekai Ryouridou (22)
25. Death March kara Hajimaru Isekai Kyusoukyoku (24)
25. Fairy Tale Chronicle (28)
27. Ninja Slayer (6)
27. Teramegurbu? (30)
29. Tanaka ~Neneri equals kanojo inai reki no mahoutsuki (27)
30. Tate no Yuusha no Nariagari (29)


As for the big 3 of Dengeki, I've stopped reading them completely. I think Kawahara's story-telling is still good and the best among the 3, but I can't find the time ever since I fell behind for SAO and can't be bothered really. Mahouka writer made 2 big lies and I gave up on it after the feeling of being cheated; the detailed setting is still amazing to me and the biggest attraction factor to me and I would still regard it as the best detailed setting among everything I've read despite having dropped it. As for Index, I just felt it became a yawn-fest for me at some point in time, and can't seem to follow it anymore. I guess I just prefer either light-hearted stuff or newer kind of story/developments. Purely my opinion and based on own preference.

No offence taken. If something interesting actually happens, I'm sure the fanbase will make some noise then.

Now I'm quite interested in these supposed 2 big lies made by the Mahouka writer. If you don't want to respond here, can I get a PM regarding what happened?

Chaos2Frozen
2016-11-25, 20:09
OH SHIT! I forgot about this year's!

OH SHIT! Index New Testament represent!!

EDIT: Oh shit even Blood Sign?!

bakato
2016-11-25, 21:02
Now I'm quite interested in these supposed 2 big lies made by the Mahouka writer. If you don't want to respond here, can I get a PM regarding what happened?

What lies?

Wandering Soul
2016-11-25, 21:04
As for the big 3 of Dengeki, I've stopped reading them completely. I think Kawahara's story-telling is still good and the best among the 3, but I can't find the time ever since I fell behind for SAO and can't be bothered really. Mahouka writer made 2 big lies and I gave up on it after the feeling of being cheated; the detailed setting is still amazing to me and the biggest attraction factor to me and I would still regard it as the best detailed setting among everything I've read despite having dropped it. As for Index, I just felt it became a yawn-fest for me at some point in time, and can't seem to follow it anymore. I guess I just prefer either light-hearted stuff or newer kind of story/developments. Purely my opinion and based on own preference.
I'm actually curious about those lies too

Chaos2Frozen
2016-11-25, 21:07
For the characters, the first number refers to the total voting points. The second number refers to the total number of votes. (I couldn't see the figures clearly though)


1. Mikoto 345/129
2. Rem 164/68
3. Megumin 107/48


Yeesssh, that gap in power level. That would explain all those years of domination.

I'm surprised that Othinus has staying power, but even more surprised that the Blood Sign main duo are on the top 10 list.

EDIT:

Haha! Kakeru Kamisato squeezing in at the end.

Chaos2Frozen
2016-11-27, 19:46
Erm, is Allen still around to update the first page :heh: ?

belatkuro
2016-12-15, 03:32
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2016-12-14/understanding-japan-light-novel-rankings/.109892

A handy article.

Hell_ping
2016-12-15, 10:03
...I want to add on some parts to that article...

Kuroageha
2016-12-15, 11:08
...I want to add on some parts to that article...

Contact the one who started it.

IceHism
2016-12-15, 16:13
With so many collaborators able to just swing the top 10 results into any direction they want, maybe they should get rid of the HP group entirely.

n0m@n
2016-12-17, 01:47
Few years ago I was annoyed as heck about Mikoto's unnatural popularity and ranking.
Now, I have given up even criticisng it or questioning it....

Hell_ping
2017-11-15, 20:39
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/185831815020281857/380390226125651968/image.jpg

So far this year, four new nominees are

Infinite Dendrogram - Licensed
月とライカと吸血姫 (Moon and Laika and Vampire) - GAGAGA work, about the first human to land on the Moon being a vampire (Girl), and encounters a moon boy
僕たちのリメイク (Our Remake) - MF Bunko (this is the one I was surprised by), A bunch of 28 years old who somehow ended up 10 years younger, and want to relive their lives again.
横浜駅SF (Yokohama Station SF) - Kadokawa Books (probably the new hit under the Tankobon section). Has a manga adaption.

(Note, these are the new recommendations for the year)

Kuroageha
2017-11-15, 21:45
It's refreshing to see new names there.

Can't say the same about other contents inside tho.

Kunagisa
2017-11-15, 23:55
\Dendro/\Dendro/\Dendro/

#1 = 86

\Dendro/\Dendro/\Dendro/

dragon1412
2017-11-16, 00:10
it is a good sign though, meaning that there are other title that's catching up to the old title as well. Nowadays most titles just reused the template over and over.

Hell_ping
2017-11-22, 06:10
Soo...special interview for the winners this year:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPN_QztUQAUT8j0.jpg:large

Tankabon winner: Honzuki (Ascendance of a Bookworm)
Light Novel Bunko winner: Sangatsu no Lolion, also known as 'Ryuoh no Oshigoto!'
Light Novel Bunko newcomer winner: 86

OH&S
2017-11-22, 06:15
^Ryuoh in 1st place again!? That's some heavy pushing by the HPs/collabs.

Hell_ping
2017-11-22, 06:41
Actually I get the feeling that 86 is tied first, just not fully sure of it yet.

dragon1412
2017-11-22, 07:34
yeah, loli shogi is good, but 2 years continuously, that's quite pushing it

Kuroageha
2017-11-22, 08:21
I like RnO so I'm happy for this.

Hell_ping
2017-11-22, 10:51
Remake has been released with a wrapping stating that it's 6th for light novel, 4th for newcomer.

So at this point, we have 86, dendrogram and laika in the top 5 this year.

Hell_ping
2017-11-23, 02:37
Bunko rankings:

1. Loli Shogi
2. 86
3. Dendro
4. Laika
5. SAO
6. Remake
7. Jaku Character
8. Gamers
9. Danmachi
10. Imoire

Bunko HP rankings:

1. SAO
2. Loli shogi
3. Konosuba
4. Seirei Gensouki
5. Re0
6. Classroom
7. NGNL
8. Seishun Buta
9. Mahouka
10. Index

Tankoubon rankings:

1. Honzuki
2. Kumo
3. Youjo
4. Overlord
5. Monogatari
6. Slime
7. Mushoku Tensei
8. Yokohama SF
9. Majo no Tabitabi
10. Uchi Musume

Tankoubon vote rankings:

1. Honzuki
2. Overlord
3. Youjo
4. Slime
5. Monogatari
6. Mushoku
7. Kumo
8. Demon Lord building a city
9. Majo
10. Smartphone

dragon1412
2017-11-23, 02:56
Honzuki ?????

Hell_ping
2017-11-23, 03:14
Yes Honzuki. Honzuki no Gekokujou.

In other news, Index is 12th this year apparently.

Marcus H.
2017-11-23, 03:16
That's a lot of shilling for Ryuuoh, to the point of revising the system to weaken Index's influence in the rankings.

Hell_ping
2017-11-23, 03:17
I wouldn't necessary say that it's all shilling for Ryuoh. Even in the HP (fan) voting, Index dropped from 1st to 10th in rankings.

In fact, if you want to mention shilling, special shoutout goes to 86.

Marcus H.
2017-11-23, 03:25
Even in the HP (fan) voting, Index dropped from 1st to 10th in rankings.

I blame two things: (1) there's only one volume counted for Index, which is NT18, and (2) fanbase complacency—fans already had their victory with the sudden upsurge of publicity through Season III, the Virtual-On game, and the mobile MMO. It's possible that they let the newer works take the fame because "Index already won".

Also, I noticed that none of the other series had the same popularity (i.e., not talked about as much) as the older LN series.

n0m@n
2017-11-23, 03:30
Bunko rankings:

1. Loli Shogi
3. Dendro
5. SAO
8. Gamers
9. Danmachi

Bunko HP rankings:

1. SAO
2. Loli shogi
5. Re0
6. Classroom
9. Mahouka

Tankoubon rankings:

4. Overlord

Tankoubon vote rankings:

2. Overlord

The bolded ones are the one I read. I haven't read or heard of others lol:heh:

I wonder what the rankings are for the character rankings.

Marcus H.
2017-11-23, 03:38
I assume the changes to the rankings is supposed to change the nature of the rankings from a popularity contest to a glorified must-read recommendations list. The presence of titles that haven't made a ripple compared to shows that have been blessed by mediamix is evident.

That said, I don't mind such a change, but are the newer works actually good?

larethian
2017-11-23, 03:41
The bolded ones are the one I read. I haven't read or heard of others lol:heh:

I wonder what the rankings are for the character rankings.

Strange, if you have been checking dengeki site every month, you couldn't have missed 86. :heh:

Marcus H.
2017-11-23, 03:47
Talking about the usual talk in Animesuki though.
Among the ones without an anime series that stood out for me were Infinite Dendrogram and Jaku-Chara Tomozaki-kun.

EDIT: And I blame Kunagisa for that. :heh:

Hell_ping
2017-11-23, 03:58
... deletethiskuna

Wait, this isn't Discord

Anyway, thus far, it looks like loli shogi characters are giving competition to Index girls this time.

OH&S
2017-11-23, 05:36
Bunko rankings:

1. Loli Shogi
2. 86
3. Dendro
4. Laika
5. SAO
6. Remake
7. Jaku Character
8. Gamers
9. Danmachi
10. Imoire

Bunko HP rankings:

1. SAO
2. Loli shogi
3. Konosuba
4. Seirei Gensouki
5. Re0
6. Classroom
7. NGNL
8. Seishun Buta
9. Mahouka
10. Index


In other news, Index is 12th this year apparently.

Three cheers for variety and Index out of the overall Top 10 for the first time in 10 years! What a streak!

Index's ranking relies entirely on HP votes and last year it was lucky that Oregairu wasn't there to steal its votes. I'm very interested to see what the HP numbers are this year and if there was a different weighting method used. Index was first in HP votes last year and to see it drop to 10th is staggering. Normally I'd blame Oregairu but I don't see it ranked anywhere... Maybe Classroom took the votes?

Kono LN ga Sugoi! looks at novels released in the October to September period each year. Index had 2 novels during this time: one meh and one amazing. But this has actually been one of Index's best years story-wise.

Hell_ping
2017-11-23, 05:46
Now for the girls ranking, courtesy from Anon Raildex:

1. Death, Taxes and Mikoto coming first 664 points/ 240 votes
2. Main (Honzuki) 288/103
3. Asuna 253/144
6. Yukinon
7. Yuigahama Yui
8. Rem
9. Irohasu

itine
2017-11-23, 05:48
Her Again?, of course
https://i.imgur.com/xpjx5Xd.jpg

OH&S
2017-11-23, 06:00
Now for the girls ranking, courtesy from Anon Raildex:

1. Death, Taxes and Mikoto coming first 664 points/ 240 votes

Yawn...

2. Main (Honzuki) 288/103

The true MVP this year... who is she?

Hell_ping
2017-11-23, 06:11
The true MVP this year... who is she?

The loli protagonist of Honzuki no Gekokujou

OH&S
2017-11-23, 06:25
The loli protagonist of Honzuki no Gekokujou

This series, huh?

Hell_ping
2017-11-23, 06:30
Yeeeppppp.

I'm seeing rumors of first Ai in loli shogi being in the top 5 this year.

:frustrated:

EDIT: Also, looking at image once again, it looks like the boy in Honzuki got 8th.

salamander750
2017-11-23, 06:43
Yawn...



The true MVP this year... who is she?

Err, what's with the Mikoto crazed in Japan :confused:

salamander750
2017-11-23, 06:44
I wouldn't necessary say that it's all shilling for Ryuoh. Even in the HP (fan) voting, Index dropped from 1st to 10th in rankings.

In fact, if you want to mention shilling, special shoutout goes to 86.

Umm, what 86 are you talking about? Can you tell me?:)

WingedAccelerator
2017-11-23, 06:59
...
6. Yukinon
7. Yuigahama Yui
...


Oho, is this the first time, when they were so close? Because, if I remember correctly, Yukino is usually Top 3, then Yui comes with at least 2 spots behind her. I'm curious about the vote difference. I wish for Yui to defeat the drama queen just once. Hopefully, this is a sign of the tables finally turning... (Wishful thinking)

Hell_ping
2017-11-23, 07:37
Err, what's with the Mikoto crazed in Japan :confused:

Japan has always been crazy about Mikoto. She won 7 of the last 8 times.

And it's not just Japan. Bilibili, the biggest video hosting site in China, is named based on her.

Umm, what 86 are you talking about? Can you tell me?:)

86 is the Grand Prize winner of this year's Dengeki Novel, depicts a mecha war story where people deemed as inferiors (non-Whites) are sent to the battlefield to fight enemy mecha. Lots of comparison to Code Geass: Akito the Exiled.

Oho, is this the first time, when they were so close? Because, if I remember correctly, Yukino is usually Top 3, then Yui comes with at least 2 spots behind her. I'm curious about the vote difference. I wish for Yui to defeat the drama queen just once. Hopefully, this is a sign of the tables finally turning... (Wishful thinking)

Ehh, given that we still have one more volume, I doubt there's anything more Yui can do at this point since she has left the game.

larethian
2017-11-23, 07:42
Umm, what 86 are you talking about? Can you tell me?:)

summary of 86 (secret) hype: https://imgur.com/a/ZycUC

dragon1412
2017-11-23, 07:50
Nice, so that was honzuki, too used to English title to remember, as much as I love Index, I'd still cheers for variety that's finally come

Hell_ping
2017-11-23, 07:53
Latest I have is Touma 3rd this year, behind Kirito and 8man

Kuroageha
2017-11-23, 09:27
Her Again?, of course
https://i.imgur.com/xpjx5Xd.jpg
I sleep.

This series, huh?
Didn't see that coming.

salamander750
2017-11-23, 09:53
Latest I have is Touma 3rd this year, behind Kirito and 8man

Holyshit, How did you know:D

itine
2017-11-23, 10:11
Holyshit, How did you know:D

https://i.imgur.com/y9gx6tS.jpg

Cosmic Eagle
2017-11-23, 10:15
Accelerator and Sora at around the same level...very fitting for those two.


On another note, 86 at top spot? Very surprised....didn't think it would become so famous that quickly. Feels like Eirun syndrome

Gundam Meister
2017-11-23, 14:42
Next Year Ranking are going to be interesting considering several of the top 10 are getting anime like Index , SAO and Ryuuoh no Oshigoto

Zefyris
2017-11-23, 17:06
Tankabon winner: Honzuki (Ascendance of a Bookworm)


wooooH???

The best isekai out there won? And youjo senki is third? That's very satisfying. Best part of the ranking.

And on top of this Maine is second in character ranking too?And Ferdinand is 8th male side? Am I dreaming? What is happening here? I don't know but I fully approve. I'm used to have what I like supported by peoples from the industry in those rankings, but not really supported by normal voters. That's novelty. Not bad, not bad at all.

Hell_ping
2017-11-23, 20:13
https://i.imgur.com/y9gx6tS.jpg

1. Kirito (612 points/254 votes)
2. Hachiman (551 points/232 votes)
3. Touma (496 points/191 votes)
4. Shiba Tatsuya (440 points/ 201 votes)
5. Accelerator (407 points/ 164 votes)
6. Sora (224 points)
7. Subaru (216 points)
8. Ferdinand (208 points)
9. Kazuma (200 points)
10. Ayanokoji Kiyotaka (196 points)

1. Loli Shogi 296.43
2. 86 285.71
3. Laika 135.71
4. Remake 100.00
5. Vivi Rain in Love やあて恋するヴィヴィ。レイン 98.21
6. Hajimari no Mahou Tsukai 89.23
7. Dendro 89.29
8. Tomozaki 85.71
9. Elpis of the Cabinet 筺底のエルピス 82.14
10. Hiraura Family Rhythm 75.00


>Bunko (Fanvote) Top 10 along with overall rank
1. SAO 5
2. Ryuoh no Oshigoto 1
3. Konosuba 12
4. Seirei Gensouki 13
5. Re Zero 16
6. Classroom of the Elite 19
7. No Game No Life 23
8. Seishun Buta 20
9. Mahouka 18
10. Index 26

Cosmic Eagle
2017-11-24, 04:33
The best isekai out there won?

It's a traversity that Isekai Meikyuu wasn't even mentioned....That's very definitely a contender for best isekai title

Hell_ping
2017-11-24, 04:53
It's a traversity that Isekai Meikyuu wasn't even mentioned....That's very definitely a contender for best isekai title

Isekai Meikyuu or Tosho Meikyuu?:heh:

Cosmic Eagle
2017-11-24, 04:56
isekai meikyuu or tosho meikyuu?:heh:

異世界迷宮の最深部を目指そう btw.... Not 異世界迷宮でハーレムを

Zefyris
2017-11-24, 05:31
異世界迷宮の最深部を目指そう btw.... Not 異世界迷宮でハーレムを

It wouldn't be in the same category as Honzuki even if it was there anyway since it's a bunko, so... Just appreciate how good was Japan's taste this year in the tankoubon category. ;)

OH&S
2017-11-24, 05:47
10. Index 26

26th? Didn't you say it was 12th earlier? What a fall...

salamander750
2017-11-24, 06:03
26th? Didn't you say it was 12th earlier? What a fall...

I am worry about Index's future already:(

OH&S
2017-11-24, 06:06
I am worry about Index's future already:(

Why? It's still Top 10 by fan vote. Also Season 3 next year.

Hell_ping
2017-11-24, 07:09
. Mikoto
2. Maine
3. Asuna.
4. Sakurajima Mai
5. Katou Megumi
6. Yukinon
7. Yui
8. Rem
9. Irohasu
10. Othinus

Meanwhile Aleister checks in at 20 for guys

26th? Didn't you say it was 12th earlier? What a fall...

That was my bad. Sumanai


Illustrator list thus far:

1) Haimura Kiyotaka - Index
2) abec - SAO
3) Mishima Kurone - Konosuba
4) ponkan8 - Oregairu
5) Mizoguchi Keiji - Sakurasou
6) Kantoku - Imouto sae Ireba Ii
7) Misaki Kurehito - Saekano
8) Shirabi - Loli shogi

1 Haimura Kiyotaka 575 points / 224 votes
2 abec 492 points / 211 votes
3 Mishima Kurone 411 points /195 votes
4 ponkan8 410 points /183 votes

Top 10 characters overall:

1 Misaka Mikoto 664 points / 240 votes
2 Kirito 612 points/254 votes
3 Hikigaya Hachiman 551 points/232 votes
4 Kamijou Touma 496 points/191 votes
5 Shiba Tatsuya 440 points/ 201 votes
6 Accelerator 407 points/ 164 votes
7 Maine (Rozenmain, Honzuki) 288 points / 103 votes
8 Yuuki Asuna 253 points / 144 votes
9 Sakurajima Mai 249 points/ 118 votes
10. Sora 224 points / 116 votes


Few randoms from tweets:


13. Rio (Seirei Gensouki) 146/55
15. Eugeo

Girls:

19. Seria Crame (Seirei Gensouki) 110/46

CNine
2017-11-24, 10:45
Bunko HP rankings:

1. SAO
2. Loli shogi
3. Konosuba
4. Seirei Gensouki
5. Re0
6. Classroom
7. NGNL
8. Seishun Buta
9. Mahouka
10. Index



I'm rather curious about the popularity of Seirei Gensouki? Is it that popular?

Ophis
2017-11-24, 13:55
I, truly fail to understand how Kirito got first for male characters. And the illustrator for Index got first as well? WTF?!?!?!

salamander750
2017-11-24, 21:43
I, truly fail to understand how Kirito got first for male characters. And the illustrator for Index got first as well? WTF?!?!?!

So you don't like Haimura:confused:

Hell_ping
2017-11-24, 22:35
So you don't like Haimura:confused:

Just a matter of opinion. Don't take it too seriously.

Btw guys, rumors has it that Oregairu has been 'omitted' from the polls after winning 3 straight years.

salamander750
2017-11-24, 23:23
Just a matter of opinion. Don't take it too seriously.

Btw guys, rumors has it that Oregairu has been 'omitted' from the polls after winning 3 straight years.

If that's the case then they would have omitted Mikoto long time ago:heh::p:D

Hell_ping
2017-11-25, 01:30
Btw, to the crunchyroll guy who copied my data for the konorano article...The combined character ranking has been updated to include sakurajima mai at 9th

dragon1412
2017-11-25, 01:44
lol, CR copy from here ??? don't use CR so I don't know

Hell_ping
2017-11-25, 02:53
Bunko combined rankings

1. Sangatsu no Lolicon
2. 86
3. Dandruff
4. Laika
5. SAO
6. Remake
7. Tomozaki
8. Gamers!
9. Danmachi
10. Imoire
11. Vivi Love (やがて恋するヴィヴィ・レイン)
12. Konosuba
13. Seirei Gensouki
14. Faraway Paladin (最果てのパラディン)
15. Hajimari no Tsukai
16. Re Zero
17. Elpis in the Closet
18. Mahouka
19. Classroom of the Elite
20. Seishun Buta
21. Gambler 賭博師は祈らない
22. Hiraura Family Rhythm 平浦ファミリズム
23. NGNL
24. Kimi to Boku no Saigo no Senjou Aruiwa Sekai ga Hajimaru Seisen
25. 29 and JK
26. Index
27. Arifueta
28. 友人キャラは大変ですか?
29. Saekano
30. Oresuki
31. おにぎりスタッバー
32. 美少女作家と目指すミリオンセラアアアアアアアアッ!!
33. Nejimaki (Alderamin)
34. キラプリおじさんと幼女先輩 <<<KILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
35. Akashic Records
36. Goblin Slayer
37. Light Novel Pro
38. Eromanga sensei
39. Sakura colored Replica 桜色のレプリカ
40. Restaurant to another world
41. 14 year old illustrator
42. 読者と主人公と二人のこれから
43. キミは一人じゃないじゃん、と僕の中の一人が言った
44. Frend Torturchen
45. 友達いらない同盟
46. 近すぎる彼らの、十七歳の遠い関係
47. Accel World
48. Super Cub スーパーカブ
49. Zero no Tsukaima
50. 生ポアニキ

Tankoubon rankings:

1. Honzuki
2. Kumo
3. Youjo
4. Overlord
5. Monogatari
6. Slime
7. Mushoku Tensei
8. Yokohama SF
9. Majo no Tabitabi
10. Uchi Musume
11. Boukyaku Tantei Series
12. While Killing Slimes for 300 Years, I Became the MAX Level
13. エノク第二部隊の遠征ごはん
14. 居酒屋ぼったくり
15. 私、能力は平均値でって言ったよね!
16. 異世界お好み焼きチェーン 大阪のオバチャン、美少女剣士に転生して、お好み焼き布教!1
17. 公爵令嬢の嗜み
18. デスマーチからはじまる異世界狂想曲
19. 転生したら剣でした
20. 食い詰め傭兵の幻想奇譚
21. とんでもスキルで異世界放浪メシ  豚の生姜焼き×伝説の魔獣
22. 異世界はスマートフォンとともに。
23. 人狼への転生、魔王の副官
24. リワールド・フロンティア
25. アラフォー賢者の異世界生活日記
26. レイン 雨の日に生まれた戦士
27. 八男って、それはないでしょう!
28. その無限の先へ
29. 翼の帰る処
30. Gate Season 2
31. 戦国小町苦労譚
32. ウォルテニア戦記
33. ザ・ビデオ・ゲーム・ウィズ・ノーネーム
34. 魔王様の街づくり! ~最強のダンジョンは近代都市~
35. 異世界料理道
36. フェアリーテイル・クロニクル ~空気読まない異世界ライフ~
37. 神薙少女は普通でいたい
38. 田中~年齢イコール彼女いない歴の魔法使い~

Zefyris
2017-11-25, 09:59
Technically, spice and wolf and its sequel should be elligible, so I was kind of expecting them to show up somewhere in the bunko ranking. Didn't appear at all.
Also, how far Alderamin has fallen.

Also, how much of that tankoubon list is isekai? They seem very numerous there.

hyddty
2017-11-25, 13:18
no Hidan Aria :(

n0m@n
2017-11-25, 17:46
Oh, Vivi Lane made it that high? I'm pleased.

Endscape
2017-11-25, 18:41
This years list looks very interesting. 86 is a great novel, it deserves to rank that high, and it's great to see Danmachi doing well too.

Cosmic Eagle
2017-11-26, 09:52
It wouldn't be in the same category as Honzuki even if it was there anyway since it's a bunko, so... Just appreciate how good was Japan's taste this year in the tankoubon category. ;)

I realize Suka Suka is also nowhere to be seen. RIP....Like Meikyuu, it could have done with the extra publicity...maybe desperately.....Then again, Suka Suka did get in before....


OTOH, Saihate no Paladin made it to 14th. Nice and well deserved. Glad to see ZnT still on top 50 after all these years. Would be better if Shana were still there too

Zefyris
2017-11-26, 10:55
I realize Suka Suka is also nowhere to be seen. RIP....Like Meikyuu, it could have done with the extra publicity...maybe desperately.....Then again, Suka Suka did get in before....


OTOH, Saihate no Paladin made it to 14th. Nice and well deserved. Glad to see ZnT still on top 50 after all these years. Would be better if Shana were still there too

Sukasuka cannot get in because it has no volume though. Sukamoka could, but sukasuka was in thanks to peoples from the industry, and they switch their support regularly, so that was bound to happen.

Hell_ping
2017-11-27, 07:27
Girls ranking:

1. Death, taxes and Mikoto coming first, 664/240
2. Maine 288/103
3. Asuna 253/114
4. Sakurajima Mai 249/118
5. Katou Megumi 211/88
6. Yukinoshita Yukino 208/90
7. Yuigahama Yui 171/84
8. Rem 165/75
9. Isshiki Iroha 161/86
10. Othinus 150/76
11. Aqua 142/74
12. Sinon 138/71
13. Shiro 133/71
14. Kino 127/58
15. Alice Synthesis 30 126/63
16. Megumin 122/58
17. Shiba Miyuki 115/66
18. Sora Ginko 111/51
19. Seria Crane 110/48
20. Index 105/62
21. Shoukuhou Misaki 100/59
22. Chtholly Nota Seniorious 99/42
23. Shirai Kuroko 97/53
23. Emilia 97/49
25. Elena 96/34

Boys ranking:

1. Kirito 612/254
2. Hachiman 551/232
3. Touma 496/191
4. Shiba Tatsuya 440/201
5. Accelerator 407/164
6. Sora 224/118
7. Natsuki Subaru 216 /129
8. Ferdinand 208/77
9. Satou Kazuma 200/101
10. Ayanokoji Kiyotaka 196/85
11. Bell Cranel 173/93
12. Azusagawa Sakuta 155/70
13. Rio 146/55
14. Kamisato Kakeru 120/64
15. Eugeo 112/65
16. 9 headed dragon 81 105/52
17. Willem Kmetsch 78/36
18. Shiroyama Kyousuke 73/38
19. Ray Sterling 72/32
20. Aleister Crowley 66/36
20. Glenn Radar 66/34
22. Nagumo Hajime 58/27
23. Itsuka Shidou 57/26
23. Ainz Ooal Gown 57/25
25. Hashima Itsuki 53/27

Kuroageha
2017-11-27, 08:18
9 headed dragon... Really?

Zefyris
2017-11-27, 09:26
Oh hey, here's Willem and Chtholly.

Plenty of names I've never heard of there.

Wandering Soul
2017-11-27, 17:42
9 headed dragon... Really?
I'm was thinking the exact same thing.

dragon1412
2017-11-27, 23:29
well with this, the 9 headed dragon is confirmed as male

Hell_ping
2017-11-28, 01:13
9 = 九 headed = 頭  dragon  = 龍 8 = 八 1   = 一

Ku, zu, ryuu, Ya, ichi

Kuzuryuu Yaichi

Cosmic Eagle
2017-11-28, 11:11
Girls ranking:

1. Death, taxes and Mikoto coming first, 664/240
2. Maine 288/103
3. Asuna 253/114
4. Sakurajima Mai 249/118
5. Katou Megumi 211/88
6. Yukinoshita Yukino 208/90
7. Yuigahama Yui 171/84
8. Rem 165/75
9. Isshiki Iroha 161/86
10. Othinus 150/76
11. Aqua 142/74
12. Sinon 138/71
13. Shiro 133/71
14. Kino 127/58
15. Alice Synthesis 30 126/63
16. Megumin 122/58
17. Shiba Miyuki 115/66
18. Sora Ginko 111/51
19. Seria Crane 110/48
20. Index 105/62
21. Shoukuhou Misaki 100/59
22. Chtholly Nota Seniorious 99/42
23. Shirai Kuroko 97/53
23. Emilia 97/49
25. Elena 96/34

Boys ranking:

1. Kirito 612/254
2. Hachiman 551/232
3. Touma 496/191
4. Shiba Tatsuya 440/201
5. Accelerator 407/164
6. Sora 224/118
7. Natsuki Subaru 216 /129
8. Ferdinand 208/77
9. Satou Kazuma 200/101
10. Ayanokoji Kiyotaka 196/85
11. Bell Cranel 173/93
12. Azusagawa Sakuta 155/70
13. Rio 146/55
14. Kamisato Kakeru 120/64
15. Eugeo 112/65
16. 9 headed dragon 81 105/52
17. Willem Kmetsch 78/36
18. Shiroyama Kyousuke 73/38
19. Ray Sterling 72/32
20. Aleister Crowley 66/36
20. Glenn Radar 66/34
22. Nagumo Hajime 58/27
23. Itsuka Shidou 57/26
23. Ainz Ooal Gown 57/25
25. Hashima Itsuki 53/27

Othinius and Kutori....YAAAY~ <3

Katou Megumi but no Utaha...also somehow higher than NGNL Shiro....... Thanks JP otakus. Never fail to not stray from your perfect waifu fetishes


Aleister.....LOLWAT


Kamisato Kakeru......Ok this is just plain wrong now

Endscape
2017-11-28, 11:33
9 = 九 headed = 頭  dragon  = 龍 8 = 八 1   = 一

Ku, zu, ryuu, Ya, ichi

Kuzuryuu Yaichi

That makes much more sense.

Othinius and Kutori....YAAAY~ <3

Agreed!

Aleister.....LOLWAT

Kamisato Kakeru......Ok this is just plain wrong now

No surprise, both these characters had some amazing volumes recently.

Didn't notice that Bell was 11th when I looked before, really excellent news!

dragon1412
2017-11-28, 13:53
actually disagree with Kamisato position, I have no doubt he will make it to top 50 since his volume was very recent, but 14 ??? that's way too high from my expectation

@Ping: you have no sense of humour, let the 9 dragon fly for a few more pages and see what this forum members could possibly come up with

Cosmic Eagle
2017-11-29, 04:20
That makes much more sense.



Agreed!



No surprise, both these characters had some amazing volumes recently.

Didn't notice that Bell was 11th when I looked before, really excellent news!

I never dreamed I would see the day some.....guy.....in a surgical robe actually manage to overcome otaku biases to enter the kono rano rankings


Kakeru though.....He's nowhere near Aleister's level of win and can be annoying actually. Thus I'm actually surprised he got there

Hell_ping
2017-11-29, 04:45
Full results here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17oob9XOFAvY2yL-ZE5jYajZgUB7gm_dsXCr9cI2z9lQ/)

Includes all illustrators.

OH&S
2017-11-29, 05:16
^
Good to see all the numbers. Very suspicious that Oregairu is absent. All of those Index HP votes had to have gone somewhere.