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Azurial

2017-08-01, 00:36

In most event i've gone through E-1 were never stressful or cancerous after Prem-Asw Update but before i gotta admit that it was cancerous asf

Ithekro

2017-08-01, 01:53

Japanese assistance to German raiders might have been a thing, if the German raiders ever broke into the Indian Ocean, or Pacific Ocean.

However, with this being about the Abyssal Threat, the Admirals will be advancing were needed. I was sort of hoping for the Admiral to be forced to setup multiple bases and station ships there so that you would have ship locks due to distances rather than event locks. Your Japan and Truk based forces would not be able to support operation out of San Francisco or Brest within a reasonable period of time. Sure you could move shipgirls to these bases, but they'd either be out of availability for a week or more, or be subject to a very long term map with all sorts of potential RNG events/encounters along the way. Don't be USS Indianapolis....such misfortune. Or have repeated failures cause the shipgirls to return to the nearest base for repairs (like USS Saratoga had the habit of running aground or taking a random torpedo to prevent her from being involved much of the first year).

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-01, 03:12

^
You could technically move the girls themselves by plane as I can't imagine that they actually weight much more than a human on land(won't happen though)
The quesion is how much their equipment weights and whether the girls weight gain would kick in when flying over an ocean.

The weight gain is kinda hinted by the anime when kongou jumps at someone she believes to be the admiral - (though a jump on like that would imho be dangerous even if she was human :rolleyes: ) - without any apparent fear of killing him with it.

On the other hand we have Fubuki almost laying an Egg while trying to tow Yamato on a raft on her own.
In total it took: 1 Mutsuki Class, 1 Fubuki Class, 1 Shiratsuyu Class to pull the raft with yamato on board suggesting an increase in weight, but not displacement (Yeah doesn't make much sense but ... magic!)
Sadly I can't find the scene on youtube - Fubuki's face there is jsut LOL.

dylan05

2017-08-01, 04:09

^
You could technically move the girls themselves by plane as I can't imagine that they actually weight much more than a human on land(won't happen though)

I'm not sure about that. :heh:
Remember the scales in the docks? They are in kilotons :twitch:

http://i.imgur.com/fgeGTO1.png

On the other hand we have Fubuki almost laying an Egg while trying to tow Yamato on a raft on her own.
In total it took: 1 Mutsuki Class, 1 Fubuki Class, 1 Shiratsuyu Class to pull the raft with yamato on board suggesting an increase in weight, but not displacement (Yeah doesn't make much sense but ... magic!)
Sadly I can't find the scene on youtube - Fubuki's face there is jsut LOL.

You mean that face? :D

http://i.imgur.com/KrE9pbq.gif

JagdPanther

2017-08-01, 18:24

http://i.imgur.com/r3hzxw7.png
http://imgur.com/T0A0jE6.png

http://imgur.com/I8nKEa1.png
http://imgur.com/rhWMGpY.png

http://imgur.com/8PhSCs3.png
http://imgur.com/0fwyjrz.png

http://imgur.com/EjOsd7V.png
http://imgur.com/iBBNyUV.png

http://imgur.com/2csZuYN.png
http://imgur.com/5TFC1pl.png

http://imgur.com/46ihxuR.png
http://imgur.com/zPydRoh.png

http://imgur.com/OZUg4sK.png
http://imgur.com/QpfbL8G.png

http://imgur.com/ZwgBDeB.png
http://imgur.com/FofNWtS.png

http://imgur.com/HXAIL9t.png
http://imgur.com/Uatcs62.png

http://imgur.com/X1tX8sk.png
http://imgur.com/ylGt7ZL.png

http://imgur.com/vRn1bZ5.png
http://imgur.com/LAnCv5K.png

http://imgur.com/SK5XUNf.png
http://imgur.com/41zwGN8.png

You can now level up your waifu up to level 165. The exp needed from 155 to 156 is 250k. Have fun! :heh:
Some really good ones in there! Umikaze is the best done, but I really like the Shibafu ones even if they are copy-n-paste.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-02, 03:56

I'm not sure about that. :heh:
Remember the scales in the docks? They are in kilotons :twitch:

http://i.imgur.com/fgeGTO1.png
I should really sit closer to the screen when watching stuff, I never noticed the scale weights Kilotons....
Wait isn't it a bit too weak for Yamato then :heh:?

Though I think that counts more as a '1 KG equals x KT for shipgirls' - otherwise Kongou would have outright tried to murder the Admiral with her jump on :heh:

You mean that face? :D

http://i.imgur.com/KrE9pbq.gif
Yes thats the one :D

dylan05

2017-08-02, 12:03

Though I think that counts more as a '1 KG equals x KT for shipgirls' - otherwise Kongou would have outright tried to murder the Admiral with her jump on :heh:

Well, that's the real reason why he wasn't there :p

Eisdrache

2017-08-02, 16:57

I can barely tell the difference between Shiknami's normal and damaged art.

Rocksmash

2017-08-06, 20:06

We will be getting new English, French and Italian ships. Z1 will be getting her swimsuit CG in the event patch. (source (https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/894357657947000832))

Sheba

2017-08-06, 20:24

We will be getting new English, French and Italian ships. Z1 will be getting her swimsuit CG in the event patch. (source (https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/894357657947000832))
Full EURO ASSEMBLE!
So, we will either get a French BB and Italian sub or Italian BB and French sub. Guys who were praying to get more USN representatives will be very disappointed.

EDIT: We are a complicated bunch (http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2613102)

ganbaru

2017-08-06, 20:29

This time the reward might be more interesting than some of the past events. Of course we will have to see which one are reward and which one are drop.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-07, 03:36

Dunkerque or Richelieu, that is the question :D

Ithekro

2017-08-07, 03:54

Well since Gangut came out, older battleships are plausible now. Giulio Cesare (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_battleship_Giulio_Cesare)would give Warspite someone specific to bully, but also someone that could go with Gangut and Hibiki since she became Novorossiysk for the last six or so years of her existence. She was a training ship in Soviet service until she was sunk in 1955 by a old German mine with 608 of her crew.

She survived the attack on Taranto without being hit by the British torpedo planes.

Originally she had 13 x 305mm guns in five turrets (three triple and two twin), but was reconstructed between the wars, removing the central triple turret for more engines, bringing her form 21.5 knots to 27 knots. Also her guns were increased in bore size to 320mm guns.

She is also technically older than Kongou...but commissioned after Kongo was in service, but before Hiei entered service.

Alternately, either of the Andrea Doria-class battleships, since not only did they survive the war, they both remained in Italian service until they retired in the 1950s.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-07, 04:04

^
Personally, I'd actually prefer a French BB - 2 Italian BBs are enough for the time being.

ganbaru

2017-08-07, 04:25

^
Personally, I'd actually prefer a French BB - 2 Italian BBs are enough for the time being.

What would be best, a Italian sub or a French one ? We are getting both a european Battleship and sub, a Italian and a French kamusu. That make 4 possibility.

I would prefer a French BB as well, more because I want to see how the devs would make her stand out.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-07, 05:16

Sheba

2017-08-07, 05:41

What would be best, a Italian sub or a French one ? We are getting both a european Battleship and sub, a Italian and a French kamusu. That make 4 possibility.

I would prefer a French BB as well, more because I want to see how the devs would make her stand out.

Combined Fleet made a comparison and, surprisingly, Richelieu came out 3rd after Iowa and South Dakota. (http://www.combinedfleet.com/baddest.htm) I dont know how it would play out in KC if its Richie, since devs made it clear that in KC its Yamato the Queen.

Ithekro

2017-08-07, 06:05

A lot of that has to do with AA guns and fire control. Things Japan was pretty bad at after the invention of radar.

Sheba

2017-08-07, 06:43

HMS Ark Royal being the final reward, and Italians + French being confirmed, it may narrow down the operation area to the Mediterranean sea, with Gibraltar-hime, who may be Ark's Abyssal Form, as the probable final boss, seeing how it was near her resting place.

My personal speculation is that we will go to the Red Sea, to get through Suez Canal where a DJ-Hime may go see hi to us, perhaps we will capture Crete (think Operation Mercury (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Crete) with Kanmusus transporting landing ships instead of paratroopers) to use it as a LBA base then Toulon and Gibraltar.

EDIT

Literally the thing gone through my head (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fZ2Vmzp7Ic) when I read about another FR Kanmusu

Estavali

2017-08-07, 19:57

In addition to Lebe, Yuu/Ro-chan will get a special swimsuit CG too (hers is on Friday) (https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/894722081979375616). Adding this to what we have so far, this would seem to be quite the festival.

Add-on: E-2's reward (https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/894727788858556416) will be Hatakaze (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_destroyer_Hatakaze_(1924)).

Rocksmash

2017-08-08, 09:35

More info on the Summer Event from Comtiq magazine (http://kancolle.doorblog.jp/archives/51847726.html):

The Summer event will have 7 maps (4 MO, 3 EO).
7 new ships. The foreign ships will be from British, French and Italian.
The Italian ship had a dramatic life and ended up in Japan.
The new BB is the E4 reward while the CV (related to Swordfish) is the E7 reward.
The MO maps will mainly be IJN drops. The European ships will be in the EO maps.

http://i.imgur.com/KiapT0U.jpg

Ithekro

2017-08-08, 09:51

So basically I-503 (Comandante Cappellini/Aquilia III/UIT-24), a Marcello-class submarine.
A French BB (which generally means Richelieu since the two Dunkerque-class ships were both scuttled at Toulon in 1942.)
And Ark Royal.

Still waiting for Yūnagi (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_destroyer_Y%C5%ABnagi_(1924)) to complete the Battle of Savo Island fleet.

Sheba

2017-08-08, 11:14

ganbaru

2017-08-08, 18:48

http://i.imgur.com/KiapT0U.jpg

My guess would be than the 2 ''blue'' destroyers are yuugumo-class.

LoweGear

2017-08-08, 19:49

Event maintenance tomorrow is from 11:00 to 22:00 JST.

Also, Hatakaze preview:

https://i.redd.it/9cgmc6ypxlez.jpg

Estavali

2017-08-08, 19:54

http://i.imgur.com/KiapT0U.jpg

Thanks, Rocksmash =3

My guess on the silhouettes:

The one in green is, without a doubt, Hatakaze.

The ones in blue are trickier but let's apply a bit of deduction based on the current DD designs. First of all, the shoes pretty much narrows down to the Fubuki class since the other DD classes don't have that "blocky boot" design:
http://i.imgur.com/YJKjZMn.png

http://i.imgur.com/Nqs2ecD.png
This leaves us with which artist is in-charge of these two. Ayaki and Yadokari are out since their designs don't fit the silhouettes (Ayaki's girls have, besides other factors, floating headgears and Yadokari doesn't do the blocky boot thing too). So it's down to Shibafu and drew. My money goes to drew for the following reasons:

- his updated style includes masts with noticeable wires/cables (http://imgur.com/gZ5SMRY).
- Shibafu's turrets tend to be very bulky and larger than what's shown here. In contrast, drew's would fit the shape just nicely.
- the shoes also fit drew's designs as seen on Oboro's and Sazanami's Kai art.

The Fubuki shipgirls that have yet to be implemented are:

Type I (Fubuki):
Shinonome, Usugumo and Shirakumo

Type II (Ayanami):
Asagiri, Yuugiri, Amagiri and Sagiri

It's possible that the "girls in blue" would be from the Type IIs. Like drew's existing shipgirls, they are sisters in the same destroyer division so it would just nice if KDKW wants to keep the design consistent. If they reach the kind of popularity that DesDiv 7 has now, it would at least make it easier to produce promotional materials :D

Sheba

2017-08-09, 11:43

Resources rollcall

http://i.imgur.com/ef0xOTo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IQHabUXl.jpg (http://imgur.com/IQHabUX)

http://i.imgur.com/AHQx145l.jpg (http://imgur.com/AHQx145)

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-09, 13:23

^
I had no idea KC3 can do that oO

Ressources:
F 266'593
A 245309
S 241761
B 132925
Buckets: 1364

http://i.imgur.com/vbzzFBl.jpg

Not really happy with my ressources, tbh. I could have had more but my attempts on getting Musashi after the event cost me a lot. At least she is now the only LSC ship I'm still missing.

Rocksmash

2017-08-09, 18:46

http://i.imgur.com/ZefjStN.png

http://i.imgur.com/Hh9HpqG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/e3zeY8d.jpg

ganbaru

2017-08-09, 19:03

In my case right now, the most prepared I even been for a Event:
F:299202 A;299242 M:299891 B:299741 fast repair: 2053

DE
(90) Shimushu, Kunashiri, Erotofu

DD, (Mutsuki/Kamikaze-class)
(99) Mutsuki, Satsuki, Katsuragi,
(98) Mochizuki, Fumizuki, Kikuzuki, Yayoi, Uzuki, Nagatsuki, Uzuki, Mikazuchi,
(91) Kamikaze, Harukaze, Asakaze, Matsukaze
(70) Minazuki

DD (Other)
(121) Akizuki,
(115) Yukikaze,
(114) Shimakaze
(99) Shigure, Yuudachi, Ayanami, Hibiki, Hatsushimo, Tezuruki, Amatsukaze, Kasumi, Ushio, Asashio,
(98) Fubuki, Libeccio, Akatsuki,
(97) Hatsuzuki,
(96) Ooshio, Hatsuharu, Arashio,
(95) Kawakaze, Murakumo,
(93) Asashimo,
(89) Hamakaze, Samidare, Inazuna, Ikazuchi, Kuroshio, Kagerou,
(85) Shiranui, Maikaze, Hagikaze
(80) Z1, Z3,
(60) Uranami, Shikinami, Isonami
(45) Isokaze, Yamakaze
(40) Arashi
(35) Umikaze, Asagumo, Yamagumo, Nowaki, Oyashio,
(31) Kiyoshimo,
(30) Akigumo, Yuugumo, Makigumo, Naganami, Tanikaze, Tokitsukaze, Harusame, Hayashimo, Tanikaze, Kazagumo,
Umikaze, Okinami Shikinami, Fujinami
(26) Michishio
(21) Shiratsuyu
(20) Oboro, Akebono, Asashio, Arare, Hatsukaze, Murasame, Nehohi, Shirayuki, Miyuki, Suzukaze, Hatsuyuki,
Wakaba, Sazanami,

CL/CLT/CT
(155) Katori
(135) Kitakami,
(131) Ooyodo
(122) Abukuma
(99) Isuzu, Yuubari, Agano, Noshiro, Yahagi, Kiso, Ooi, Kashima, Sakawa, Naka, Jintsu, Sendai, Ooi-2,
Kitakami-2,
(98) Kuma, Tama, Yura, Tatsuda, Natori, Nagara
(97) Kinu,
(96) Tenryuu,
(90) Kinu-2,

CA(V)
(134) Myoukou,
(133) Maya
(127) Tone, Chikuma,
(121) Zara,
(99) Choukai, Haguro, Nachi, Ashigara, Kinugasa, Kako, Kumano, Mogami,
Mikuma, Furutaka, Aoba, Atago, Takao, Prinz, Pola, Maya-2
(98) Suzuya-2, Kumano-2

CVL
(123) Chitose-2, Chiyoda-2,
(120) Suzuya,
(117) Ryuujou
(99) Zuihou, Shouhou, Chitose, Chiyoda, Junyou, Hiyou, Ryuuhou, Houshou, Ryuujou-2,
(98) Taiyou

CV
(151) Kaga
(147) Taihou
(120) Saratoga
(99) Akagi, Kaga-2, Hiryuu, Hiryuu-1, Souryuu, Souryuu-2 Zuikaku, Shoukaku, Unryuu, Amagi,
Katsuragi, Graf, Aquila, Zuikaku-2, Shoukaku-2,

(BB)
(155) Kirishima, Haruna
(142) Nagato
(140) Iowa, Musashi, Yamato, Kongou, Hiei,
(99) Kirishima-2, Haruna-2, Kongou-2, Hiei-2, Fusou, Yamashiro, Bismark, Ise, Hyuuga, Mutsu, Italia, Roma,
Yamashiro-2, Warspite, Gangut
(98) Fusou-2

Sub
(155) I-19, I-58, Ro-500, I-8, I-168, I-401,
(99) I-19-2, I-19-3, I-58-2, I-58-3, I-8-2, I-8-3, I-401-2, I-168-2, I-168-3, I-26, Ro-500-2, I-14, I-13,
(98) Maruyu,
(83) Maruyu-2

Other
(99) Chitose(AV), Chiyoda(AV), Mizuho Akitsushima, Hayasui, Akitsumaru
(98) Akashi, Taigei,
(98) Commandant
(96) Kamoi

light gun
12.7cm Single Gun Mount (z1/z3)
6(+0)
12.7cm twin mount type-b kai2 (yuudachi)
1(+8), 2(+9)
120mm twin gun mount (libeccio)
3(+0)
10cm high angle mount (standard )
30(material)
12.7 twin high-angle mount (late model)
15(+0)
10cm high angle mount+aafc (Akizuki)
2(+9), 4(+6), 1(+5), 1(+3),3(+0)
12.7cm Single High-angle Gun Mount (Late Model)
3(+0)
Med gun
14cm kai
1(+6), 4(+0)
15.5cm triple mount (main)
1(+6), X(Material)
15.5cm triple mount kai(main)
1(+0)
15.2cm twin gun mount
1(+9), 1(+1) m(+0)
15.2cm twin gun mount kai
1(+8)
20.3cm(no2) twin gun mount
2(max),1(+8), 1(+9), 1(+6)
20.3cm(no3) twin gun mount
1(+7), 2(+6)
Skc34 20.3 twin cannon
2(+0)
203mm/53
6(0)
Heavy gun
35.6 twin gun mount
2(max),
prototype 35.6 triple gun mount (FBB)
3(+0), 4(+8)
35.6 twin gun mount(dazzle camouflage) (FBB)
4(+0)
prototype 41cm triple gun mount (BBV-BB)
1(+6), 1(+4), 2(+0)
prototype 41cm triple gun mount (BBV-BB)
1(+0)
46cm triple gun mount (Nagato-yamato)
1(+5),1(+6), 2(+1),
prototype 51 triple cannon (yamato not combined fleet)
2(+0)
381mm / 50 Triple Gun Mount Kai
1(+4) 3(+0)
38cm Twin Gun Mount kai (FBB-BBV_Nagato)
2(+8),
16in Triple Gun Mount Mk.7 (Iowa-BBV-BB)
1(+8), 1(+7), 1(+0)
38.1cm Mk.I Twin Gun Mount (FBB, warspite)
1(+1), 1(+0)
secondary gun
8cm Twin High-angle Mount
6(+0)
10cm Twin High-angle Carriage Mount
4(+0)
12.7cm Twin High-angle Mount +Anti-Aircraft Fire Director
1(+0)
90mm Single High Angled Gun
1(+6), 2(+0)
10.5cm Twin Gun Mount
2(+0)
15.5cm Triple Gun Mount (Secondary)
4(+0)
OTO 152mm triple extended machine gun
2(+9), 1(+8), 2(+6)
5in Twin Gun Mount Mk.28 mod.2
2(0)
AA gun
25mm Triple Autocannon Mount
1(+4), 8(+0)
2cm Flakvierling 38
2(+0)
3.7cm FlaK M42
3(+0)
BI-type 40mm Twin Machine Gun
4(+0)
25mm Triple Autocannon Mount(Concentrated Deployment)
7(+0)
Bofors 40mm Quad Twin Autocannon Mount
2(+0)
QF 2-pounder Octuple "Pom Pom" Naval Gun Mount
2(+0)
torpedo
Type A Ko-hyoteki
12(+0)
61cm Quad O2 Torpedo Mount
x(+0)
61cm Triple O2 Torpedo Mount
6(+0),
61cm Quint O2 Torpedo Mount
5(+6),
Prototype 61cm Sextuple (o2) Torpedo Mount
1(+6)
53cm Submarine Bow Torpedo Mount (8 tubes) (sub only)
2(+0)
Prototype FaT Type 95 o2 Torpedo Kai (sub only)
2(+0)
radar
Type13 Air radar
1(material)
Type 13 AIR RADAR Kai
1(+10), 1(+5), 1(+2), 1(+1), 3(material)
Type 22 Surface RADAR
4(+0), 11(material)
Type 22 Surface RADAR Kai 4
1(+4), 1(+3)
Type 33 Surface RADAR
5(+0)
Type 21 Air RADAR Kai
1(max)
Type 32 Surface RADAR
7(+0)
Type 14 Air RADAR
13(+0)
15m Duplex Range Finder + Type 21 Air RADAR Kai 2
1(+0)
FuMO25
2(+0)
Submarine Radar & Waterproof Telescope
1(+0)

ASW gear
Type 94 Depth Charge
2(+10), 10(+0)
Type 3 Depth Charge
1(+8), 5(+1),3(+0)
Type 95 depth charge
1(+0)
Type 2 Depth charge
1(+0)
Type 3 SONAR
1(+max),3(+6) 7(+1), 17(+0)
Type 4 SONAR
3(+6),
shell/rocket
Type 3 Shell
11(+0)
Type 91 Armor-Piercing (AP) Shell
2(max), 4(+9) ,2(+0)
Type 1 Armor-Piercing (AP) Shell
3(+2)
Starshell
3(+0)
WG42 (roquets lancher)
4(+0)
Fighter
Reppu
20(+0)
Reppu Kai
1(+0)
Reppu(601 airgroup)
2(+0)
Zero type 21 skilled
4(max)
Zero type 52 skilled
1(+9), 1(+1), 2(+0)
Zero type 52 (601 squadron)
1(+0)
Zero type53(Iwamoto squadron)
1(max)
BT109T kai
1(+0)
FW190T kai
2(+0)
Re.2001 OR Kai
1(+0)
F4f-3
1(+0)
F4f-4
1(+10)
Interceptor
Raiden
1(+0)
Type3 Fighter
1(+0)
Type3 Fighter(244th Air Combat Group)
1(+0)
Type 3 Fighter Hien Model 1D
1(+0)
Type 1 Fighter Hayabusa Model II
1(+0)
Type 1 Fighter Hayabusa Model III A
1(+0)
Type 1 Fighter Hayabusa Model II (64th Air Squadron),
1(+0)
Type 1 Fighter Hayabusa Model III A(54th squad)
1(+0)
Bomb-carrying Type 1 Fighter Hayabusa Model III Kai (55th Squadron
1(+0)
Torpedo Bomber
Ryuusei
20(+0)
Ryuusei kai
8(+0)
Type 97 Torpedo Bomber(931 Air Group)
2(+0)
Tenzan(931 Air Group)
1(+0)
Type 97 Torpedo Bomber(Tomonaga Squadron)
1(+0)
Tenzan Model 12(Tomonaga Squadron)
1(+0)
Type 97 Torpedo Bomber (Skilled)
2(+0)
Tenzan(601 Air Group)
3(+0)
Ryuusei(601 Air Group)
2(+0)
Tenzan Model 12(Murata Squadron)
2(+0)
Dive bomber
Suisei
28(+0)
Suisei Model 12A
29(+0)
Type62 Zero Fighter-bomber
15(+0)
Ju87C Kai
3(+0)
Type99 Dive Bomber(Skilled)
2(+0)
Type99 Dive Bomber(Egusa Squadron)
1(+0)
Suisei(Egusa Squadron)
2(+0)
Suisei(601 Air Group)
2(+0)
Type62 Zero Fighter-bomber(Iwai Squadron)
1(+10)
Land-based bomber
Type96 Land-based Attack Aircraft
11(+0)
Type1 Land-based Attack Aircraft
4(+0)
Type1 Land-based Attack Aircraft Model 22A
1(+0)
Type1 Land-based Attack Aircraft(Nonaka Squadron)
1(+0)
Type 1 Land-based Attack Aircraft Model 34
2(+0)
Ginga
1(+0)
Jet-plane
Kikka Kai
1(+0)
Jet Keiun Kai
1(+0)
Seaplane
Type0 Observation Seaplane
2(+max), x(+0)
Type98 Recon Seaplane(Night Scout)
1(+max)
Ar196 Kai
2(+0)
Ro43 Reconnaissance Seaplane
1(+8), 1(+0)
OS2U
1(+0)
Shiun
1(+0)
Type 0 Observation Plane Model 11B
1(+0)
Combat seaplane
Zuiun
(material)
Prototype Seiran
4(+0)
Zuiun(634 Air Group)
4(+0)
Zuiun(634 Air Group) skilled
1(+0)
Zuiun Model 12
3(+0)
Laté298b
3(+0)
Fighter seaplane
Ro44 Seaplane Fighter
1(+6), 1(+0)
Type2 Seaplane Fighter kai
2(+0)
Ro.44 Seaplane Fighter bis
0
Type 2 Seaplane Fighter Kai(skilled)
1(+5), 1(+0)
Kyoufuu Kai
1(+6)

Boatplane
Type2 Large Flying Boat
3(+0)
Catalina
1(+0)
Other planes
Saiun
17(+0)
Type 2 Recon Aircraft
5(+0)
Saiun (Eastern Caroline Air Group)
1(+0)
Prototype Keiun (Carrier-based Reconnaissance Model)
0
Ka-type Observation Autogyro
1(+0)
Type 3 Spotter/Liaison (ASW)
1(+0)
Amphibious/expedition gears
Drum
84
Daihatsu
1(+9), 1(+10) 8(+0)
Toku Daihatsu
1(+0)
daihatsu and type89 tank
3(+8),
Type 2 tank
2(+9),
Toku daihatsu + 11th tank regiment
1(+0)
Other
Searchlight
1(+9), 3(+0)
Type 96 150cm Searchlight
1(+3), 1(+0)
Anti-torpedo Bulge (Medium)
2(+0)
Improved anti-torpedo bulge (medium)
1(+0)
Anti-torpedo Bulge (Large)
2(+0)
Pugliese-Type Underwater Bulkhead
3(+0)
Fleet Command Facility
1(+0)
Skilled Carrier-based Aircraft Maintenance Personnel
2(+0)
Skilled Lookouts
11(+0)
New kanpoh engine
3(+0)
Enhanced Steam Boiler
12(+0)
New High Pressure-Temperature Steam Boiler
6(+0)
Type 91 Anti-Aircraft Fire Director
1(+0)
Type 94 Anti-Aircraft Fire Director
2(+0)

Rocksmash

2017-08-10, 00:00

Sheba

2017-08-10, 00:05

Ithekro

2017-08-10, 00:09

Iowa will likely have speaks with her about endangering future presidents. Her hair color would probably be described as a heavenly mist.

Estavali

2017-08-10, 00:37

http://i.imgur.com/6Zu2j28.jpg

New ship hint (https://twitter.com/KanColle_STAFF/status/895503437508386816): We can encounter a Type II destroyer whose older sister had an shocking contact with a torpedo boat in the MO maps.

Ahh, so it's Sagiri. Now to see if Amagiri will be the other one =3

Looks like we may have PT imps set in the Solomon Islands area. And, hopefully I'll be proven wrong, perhaps even night battle maps?

Iowa will likely have speaks with her about endangering future presidents. Her hair color would probably be described as a heavenly mist.

You're talking about the elder sister though :heh:

Kakurin

2017-08-10, 01:00

Looks like we may have PT imps set in the Solomon Islands area. And, hopefully I'll be proven wrong, perhaps even night battle maps?
Since when are the Solomons in Europe? :heh:

LoweGear

2017-08-10, 01:17

Since when are the Solomons in Europe? :heh:

Amagiri, i.e. the Destroyer in question that had the "shocking contact" with a torpedo boat (PT-109, which had then Lt. Jr. Grade John F. Kennedy on board at the time), had said encounter in the Solomon Islands.

It's stuff like this which is why I keep telling people to not base any speculation about ship drops on the locations the events are supposed to be taking place. :heh:

Estavali

2017-08-10, 01:40

Since when are the Solomons in Europe? :heh:

Well, it's stated that the "shocking incident" happens in a MO map aka one of the first 4 maps, so I expect the first part of the event to be a secure-the-home-front-first kind of operation =3

Here again there might be some similarities to the Cranes' last volume:
The last volume combines the Spring and Summer 2015 events into one major operation on two fronts. The "home" front that was to counter a resurgence of Abyssal activity in home waters is based on the Summer event which had a map set in the Solomons.

LoweGear

2017-08-10, 02:26

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/895543544307302401/TlN6Py4h_400x400.jpg

I'm guessing this is Amagiri, the "Jap destroyer in the night cut the 109 in two" :heh:

Ithekro

2017-08-10, 02:41

Be funnier if she looked like Marilyn Monroe.

Sagiri was sunk by a Dutch submarine that was in turn sunk by a Japanese submarine a day later...both in 1941. She was the first Ayanami sunk and the third Fubuki sunk (including poor Miyuki (rammed(/plasma-ed) in 1934), and Shinonome, who had been sunk only a week earlier).

Amagiri struck a mine in early 1944. Ooi was there and Aoba saw that too.

Hatakaze was hit by carrier aircraft at the start of 1945.

Estavali

2017-08-10, 06:17

New teaser. Richelieu, perhaps?
http://i.imgur.com/G2jAYs3.jpg

hanesco

2017-08-10, 06:21

New teaser. Richelieu, perhaps?
http://i.imgur.com/G2jAYs3.jpg

I can't definitely say it is not Commandant Teste, but I can't define which battleship is either. That rigging looks like the stern area of the ship.

EDIT: In the stern area, there's something like a secondary turret, can't define if it is Richelieu (3 triple) or Dunkerque (2 double and 3 quad) tho

Der Langrisser

2017-08-10, 08:12

It's more than probably the Richelieu, with its 1943 refit livery.

Rocksmash

2017-08-10, 09:45

Developers are aiming to finish maintenance before midnight.
Meanwhile someone posted the new equipments.

http://i.imgur.com/N46JmCi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rxeaCKi.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/keoxX0M.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GT6UKv8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PSzFJnk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6MqEPel.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BffSdlW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zqCr8Kg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MjDXvPy.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SWsoXpn.jpg

Klashikari

2017-08-10, 09:52

New Kanmusu card pic. There are 3 girls missing, so these are probably the drops/rewards of regular maps.

http://imgur.com/TObeRjk.jpg

http://imgur.com/kye60Wv.jpg

http://imgur.com/PVTCHP0.jpg

http://imgur.com/FZrkxSv.jpg

Richelieu is... quite awkward.

Sheba

2017-08-10, 09:56

I guess its the placement of the belt armor that makes her proportions seem odd.

Hatakaze is literally Mini-Kashima.

Klashikari

2017-08-10, 10:01

There are several issues I have with Richelieu:
1) balance and proportion in general: the belt armor, the huge hair volume and the hat make her quite large in a weird way.

2) color balance: Akira still has the very bad habit of using very pale colors on the girls. This is actually worse in Richelieu's case because of her VERY bright hair. Imo, she is literally "flaring".

3) her rigging is nearly the -full- ship on her back.

Estavali

2017-08-10, 10:01

It's more of the "backpack" that makes her look out-of-proportion, methinks. Otherwise her design is quite similar to Iowa's but one-sided.

Edit: Klashikari has said all that I needed to say =D

bhl88

2017-08-10, 10:06

Praying for a blueprint and a prototype catapult. Zuikaku needs one

charles883

2017-08-10, 10:06

Where Ark royal?

Klashikari

2017-08-10, 10:13

As I stated, these are probably the regular maps rewards/drops. We won't have the other 3 girls (thus ark royal) before the EO maps are unlocked.

Rocksmash

2017-08-10, 10:14

http://i.imgur.com/F82rHxb.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/b1lhj7U.png
http://i.imgur.com/DOm2mmo.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/vkPkSMa.png

Azurial

2017-08-10, 10:29

Now im thinking if it going to worth the salt for the new Kanmusu .....tbh i dont really like the art it looks so pale except Hatakaze which i quite like. Let see if Ark Royal or unknown CV will have better art

Estavali

2017-08-10, 10:44

http://i.imgur.com/F82rHxb.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/b1lhj7U.png
http://i.imgur.com/DOm2mmo.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/vkPkSMa.png

Good lord, Lebe's is quite suggestive, no? :heh:

Sheba

2017-08-10, 10:51

As I suspected, Richelieu's guns at Kai (https://puu.sh/x6D0d/f921cc546b.png) have shorter range, Medium, to represent the dispersion problem of her shots, rather than having a lower accuracy like the Italians. So its like: Italians have very long range and accuracy penalty. Richelieu have better accuracy but have literally go into knife's range as far as BBs are concerned.

Her default guns have long range tho.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-10, 11:52

As its expected its Sara K2 at the end of the event then :(
Also, I had no idea you could actually write it as Eiskrem instead of Eiscreme >>

Academus

2017-08-10, 11:53

Resource: >299k, 3000 buckets, 62 screws

FBB:
Bismarck Drei (154); Kongou K2 (131); Haruna K2 (129); Hiei K2 (113); Kirishima K2 (102);
Iowa Kai (99); Kongou Kai, Haruna Kai, Italia, Roma Kai (98); Kirishima Kai (91); Hiei Kai (90)

BB/V:
Nagato K2 (126); Fusou K2 (120); Yamashiro (115);
Warspite Kai, Yamato Kai, Musashi Kai, Ise Kai, Hyuuga Kai (99); Yamato, Musashi (98); Mutsu Kai (97)

CV/B:
Zuikaku K2A (125); Shoukaku K2A (124); Taihou Kai (99);
Akagi Kai, Kaga Kai, Hiryuu K2, Souryuu K2, Katsuragi Kai, Unryuu Kai, Graf Zeppelin Kai (99);
Amagi Kai (98); Aquila Kai (93); Souryuu K2 (71); Souryuu K2 (80)

CVL:
Chiyoda K2, Chitose K2 (109); Shouhou Kai, Zuihou Kai (98); Junyou K2 (97); Hiyou Kai, Ryuujou K2 (94);
Taiyou K2 (93), Ryuuhou Kai (87); Houshou Kai (72); Ryuuhou (27)

CA/V:
Maya K2 (119); Prinz Eugen Kai (99); Suzuya K2, Kumano K2 (98); Mogami Kai, Mikuma Kai, Tone K2 (97); Zara K2 (96);
Pola Kai, Haguro K2 (95); Choukai K2, Myoukou K2, Atago Kai (94); Aoba Kai (90); Suzuya Kai (88); Chikuma K2 (87); etc

CL/T:
Kitakami K2 (134); Ooi K2 (133); Abukuma K2 (126); Kiso K2 (122); Sendai K2, Jintsuu K2 (99); Yahagi Kai, Yura K2 (96);
Naka K2 (95); Ooyodo Kai (94); Tama Kai (93), Kuma Kai, Nagara Kai, Yuubari Kai (92); Isuzu K2 (91); Agano Kai (90); etc.

DD:
Verniy (121); Yuudachi K2, Akizuki Kai (99); Teruzuki Kai, Ayanami K2, Shigure K2 (98);
Akatsuki Kai (98); Satsuki K2, Inazuma Kai, Ikazuchi Kai, Yukikaze Kai, Libeccio Kai (95),
Asashio K2D (94); Hatsuzuki Kai (93); Hagikaze Kai, Kasumi K2 (91); Amatsukaze Kai (90);
Kawakaze K2, Ooshio K2, Hibiki Kai (86); Hatsukaze kai, Urakaze Kai (80); etc

SS/V:
I-19 Kai, I-168 Kai (148), I-8 Kai, I-58 Kai (147), I-401 Kai (133), Ro-500 (114), U-511 Kai (113), U-511 (102);
I-58, I-168, I-8, I-19, I-26 Kai, I-401 Kai (99); I-13 Kai, I-14 Kai (90)

Misc.:
Akashi Kai, Kashima Kai, Katori Kai (99); Commandant Teste Kai (91); AV Chiyoda A (80); AV Chitose A (63);
Mizuho Kai (68); Akitsushima Kai (54); Akitsu Maru Kai (48); Hayasui Kai (32); etc

Guns:
2x 51cm (1x 6*), 35x 46cm Triple, 4x 41cm Triple (max), 2x 41cm Twin (max), 3x 16" Mk7 (1x 9*, 2x 6*),
3x 38cm Kai (max), 7x 35.6cm Twin (max), 2x 35.6cm Triple (1x 6*), 2x 35.6cm Dazzle,
13x 20.3cm Mk3 (2x max, 11x 6*), 3x SKC34 20.3cm, 5x OTO 152mm (4x max)
2x 90mm (max), 7x 10cm+ (max), 3x 12.7cm Twin (max)

Torpedoes:
4x 61cm Quint (6*), 1x 53cm Bow O2, 2x SS 53cm Bow Octuple, 1x Late Model Bow Torp, 1x FaT

Shells, Anti-Installation & Transport:
17x Type 3, 6x Type 91 AP (max), 4x Type 1 AP (1x 6*), 6x WG42,
2x KaMi (max), 1x Toku Daihatsu+11, 1x Toku Daihatsu, 3x Daihatsu+89 (1x 8*, 1x 6*), 10x Daihatsu

Radar:
2x FuMO25, 1x 15m+, 8x T32, 2x T22K4, 1x T21K (9*), 25x T33, 6x T13K (1x max, 1x 9*)

ASW:
4x Type 4 sonar (2x 6*), 38x T3 sonar (7x 6*), 15x T3 projector (3x 3*), 1x T2 depth charge, 1x T95 depth charge,
4x Ka Autogyro, 4x T3 ASW plane

Lv 7 Fighters:
1x Iwamoto's Zero 53 (max), 1x Reppuu Kai, 2x Reppuu 601, 1x Re.2005, 2x Zero 52 Skilled (max)
4x Zero 21 Skilled (1x max, 1x 8*), 2x Fw190T, 15x Reppuu, 20x Shiden Kai 2

Lv 7 Dive Bombers:
1x Egusa's Suisei, 6x Egusa's Type 99, 3x Suisei 601, 26x Suisei 12A, 1x SBD
1x Kikka Kai, 1x Iwai's FB Zero 62 (max), 10x FB Zero 62

Lv 7 Torpedo Bombers:
1x Tomonaga's Tenzan, 2x Murata's Tenzan, 3x Ryuusei 601, 30x Ryuusei Kai, 1x Tenzan 931, 2x Type 97-931

Lv 7 Scout Planes:
1x Keiun, 9x Type 2 Recon, 1x Caroline Saiun, 15x Saiun

Lv 7 Seaplanes:
1x Seiran 631, 3x Seiran, 2x Zuiun 12, 5x Zuiun 634, 1x Kyoufuu, 2x T2 Fighter Kai, 2x Ro.44,
1x Zero Scout 11B, 1x Shiun, 16x Zero Obs., 3x Type 2 Flying Boat, 2x Catalina

LBA:
2x Raiden, 1x Hien 244, 2x Hien 1D, 1x Hien,
1x Hayabusa 3A-54, 1x Hayabusa 3A, 1x Hayabusa 2-64, 1x Hayabusa 2, 1x FB Hayabusa 3 Kai-55
1x Ginga, 1x T1 Nonaka, 2x T1-34, 1x T1-22A, 5x T1

Night Battle Equipment:
2x Night scout >>, 1x 150cm Searchlight, 1x Searchlight (max), 4x Star shell

Probably a good idea to save Prinz Eugen in case E7 is based on Channel Dash.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-10, 12:45

Just checked the map pictures. Apparently we indeed go south as Sheba suspected, will end up where I suspected it though - i.E bisko route, looks like Bisko's route (just starting from Brest)

Edit:
Nvm apparently its supposed to be dover strait, whicch is fun as some of the other points make it look like Bisko's route downward.

Klashikari

2017-08-10, 16:40

Lg175k2pt0s
Richelieu's accent somehow sounds worse than Teste, but she is also more arrogant than Bisko and Gangut. Somehow, Roma whiny attitude sounds like music to my ears in comparison.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-10, 19:01

The french ships' designs make me question how old they are supposed to look like.
That dress makes imho makes her look bulky and small. - Not sure whether she is supposed to be much bigger than Shimakaze.

Not much to be said about her rigging, other than that her citadel looks extremely easy to hit there - especially the forward ammo storage :rolleyes:

Ithekro

2017-08-10, 19:41

And arrogant French ship? Surely you jest. Not like the french being arrogant is a sterotype or anything. :p

Kakurin

2017-08-11, 02:37

Sheba

2017-08-11, 05:45

GFDI Petain, this is your fault! (http://kancolle.wikia.com/wiki/French_Battleship_Princess)

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-11, 06:08

Which map are you talking about? None of the E1-E4 maps are set in Europe and the EO maps aren't available yet.

Its not yet the actual big maps, but only the smaller ones that show the tags.
They drew the Uk and ireland a bit wonky there imho, hence my previous confusion. - its also not Brest but Portugal

The route goes in two directions though:

Somewhere from Portugal to what at least partially looks like biskos's route and then a second arrow going into the direction of the dover strait.
Really hard to make out because for some reason, because they made it diagonal. At first I didn't even recognise the Uk as Uk due to that :heh:
Link to wiki image:
https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/kancolle/images/8/83/Summer_2017_Event_Lock.png/revision/latest?cb=20170810150003

So its going past Italy, and then and the final mission will have two parts - assuming I'm reading this right, that is.

Edit: imho at least one of those red dots looks like the spot where Bisko's ruddeer got hit by ArK Royal.

Sheba

2017-08-11, 09:15

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/896006858019815424/BAs2Y4C3_400x400.jpg

Ark Royal is a Ginger and a literal flattop.

RJ and the Flattop Club now have a new member.

Azurial

2017-08-11, 09:42

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/896006858019815424/BAs2Y4C3_400x400.jpg

Ark Royal is a Ginger and a literal flattop.

RJ and the Flattop Club now have a new member.

She is on an average size tbh not too small but you can still see that she got some xD unlike RJ which is straight flat XD

Ithekro

2017-08-11, 14:21

Ark Royal was a rather tall ship.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-11, 15:49

Ark Royal was a rather tall ship.

they are more referring to a joke Ooi made about Zuikaku in the anmime.
Zuikaku called her a light cruiser, and Ooi said something along the line of:

'We are torpedo cruisers, you could at least know that - Flight deck chest.'

That being said, this makes me wonder about the Yorktowns once they are ingame.
Will they go 'carrier' or will they go 'the E does not stand for enterprise' with the yorktowns in however many years that will be) :heh:

On another note: Is it known what the plane parts are being used for yet?
Like will it be for SaraK2 pre-event or for ArkRoyale's planes.

LoweGear

2017-08-11, 16:23

https://i.redd.it/qchj5s5r26fz.jpg

[Military Police Intensifies]

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-11, 16:25

Good they finally started making more subs that actually look like submarines. compared to girls in school swimsuits..

Sheba

2017-08-11, 17:34

Good they finally started making more subs that actually look like submarines. compared to girls in school swimsuits..

*pssst* Luigi becomes a Japanese in the end...

Klashikari

2017-08-11, 18:37

Ark Royalhttp://i.imgur.com/417MjXl.png http://i.imgur.com/Rjk2hZP.pngKind of refreshing that she doesn't look too cliché.

Rocksmash

2017-08-11, 18:52

http://i.imgur.com/r4aBCZZ.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/vv9WId3.png

http://i.imgur.com/XJvoUlS.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/IOoG9PA.png

http://i.imgur.com/qCO662s.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/TEQ8vVS.png
http://i.imgur.com/mo8m6YR.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/P5pVXJs.png
http://i.imgur.com/TtgpG6O.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/xN0A14k.png

http://i.imgur.com/pRLIGe3.png
http://i.imgur.com/qCxpiON.png

Azurial

2017-08-11, 21:03

Ark Royalhttp://i.imgur.com/417MjXl.png http://i.imgur.com/Rjk2hZP.pngKind of refreshing that she doesn't look too cliché.

O.o Her damage cg make her tanks x2 bigger than the normal cg XD

Ithekro

2017-08-11, 22:36

https://i.redd.it/qchj5s5r26fz.jpg

[Military Police Intensifies]

Huh...I was expecting Comandante Cappellini rather than Luigi Torelli.

KanbeKotori

2017-08-12, 00:44

I don't have enough ships for 6 locks. RIP me

Guess I will try to go hard as often as I can.....

Rocksmash

2017-08-12, 00:47

I don't have enough ships for 6 locks. RIP me

Guess I will try to go hard as often as I can.....

6 locks? There's only 5:

E1
E2+E3
E4
E5
E6

E7 is free for all.

Sheba

2017-08-12, 00:57

Listened Ark's line.

So far, only Brits have a clear relationship, or rather an attempt, with their victims.

KanbeKotori

2017-08-12, 01:08

6 locks? There's only 5:

E1
E2+E3
E4
E5
E6

E7 is free for all.

Oh really? I was hearing some people freaking out that E-7 is its own lock...

Gonna check the Twitter I guess

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-12, 04:19

*pssst* Luigi becomes a Japanese in the end...

Why... ;( Oh well at least she keeps her rigging. Likely another ship I won't k2 until I got a second copy.

Listened Ark's line.

So far, only Brits have a clear relationship, or rather an attempt, with their victims.

Bismarck fleeing and her trying to catch up actually made me chuckle.
She should be careful though - Bisko only has one target this time :heh:

My only complaint about her speech is that she only says 'its 1, 2 3', leaving the o'lock away, while it would fit british ships way better than American ones.

Klashikari

2017-08-12, 06:04

Oh really? I was hearing some people freaking out that E-7 is its own lock...

Gonna check the Twitter I guess
That's because the devs screwed up a bit: when the RTA managed to reach E7, they were denied by a "wrong lock" warning. This is fixed if you clear your cache.

It is very likely they forgot to remove that restriction prior releasing the maps.
Hyu was caught off guard and panicked quite a bit until he saw the staff tweet.

Kakurin

2017-08-12, 07:21

Did they forget a map or so? At least that's my impression for E2. Seriously annoying me. More like an E3 for other events. :heh:

KanbeKotori

2017-08-12, 07:49

That's because the devs screwed up a bit: when the RTA managed to reach E7, they were denied by a "wrong lock" warning. This is fixed if you clear your cache.

It is very likely they forgot to remove that restriction prior releasing the maps.
Hyu was caught off guard and panicked quite a bit until he saw the staff tweet.

Ah okay...

No wonder he was panicking. Was watching his stream and doing other stuff and saw there was quite a ruckus. Went to check Twitter only after Rocksmash said there's only 5.

Kakurin

2017-08-12, 10:06

The Nu-Kai on E2-L is seriously annoying. That thing is like a Wo-Kai in how it keeps sending me back...

Klashikari

2017-08-12, 10:40

It is actually worse than a wo, because nu kai flagships have 5 extra FP compared to the strongest wo kai variant. They were a nightmare the very moment they were introduced and the devs pretty much got a liking to them for this event.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-12, 11:09

I'd go down to easy for E2, if it wasn't for the plane parts (which i suspect to be used for the F6F-5 atm) weren't only available for hard mode on the next map.
Seriously thinking of using a Duck for e2 now.

Sheba

2017-08-12, 11:16

Dont waste Ducks on E2, I did it with Hiei, Nachi, Akatsuki, Beaver, Akagi and Hiryuu. Will post replay when I go back from work.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-12, 13:08

E2N finally done - and I got to say even on normal it was a pain in the ass.

In total (shortcut unlock included) I used 3 CV, 1 CVL 3 or 4 DD, 1 CL and 1CAV;

The one that hurt most is probably Chitose, since I totally forgot to level Chiyoda again and have her just on 38.
Katsuragi aside, the CVs were the Car Div2 duplicates, so not much damage done here.

The most annoying part of this map (and also why it took me so long) was that my DDs always got damage that could be repaired in under and hour, thus making me want to repair them normally rather than wasting a bucket.

Kakurin

2017-08-12, 14:14

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-12, 14:18

Finally cleared it. Haruna - Kuma - Hatsushimo - Shigure - Amagi - Chiyoda plus map support was the winning combo. Good thing I didn't need boss support in the end. Would have lost it a bit if I had to bring both supports for a freaking E2 map...

That aside, oh my, isn't Hatakaze a polite one.

Look forward to E3 - I quit hard mode after just two attempts.
There are carriers EVERYWHERE in the transport phase. - Except on the tranport boss node.

KanbeKotori

2017-08-12, 16:08

Asking in advance: Can we use those tiny escort patrol boats in E-1?

I like their ability to OASW as I don't have a lot of ships that can OASW.

Don't think I can go for full hard clear now when I see maps like E-6...probably gonna save some resources in the earlier maps because E-6H TP phase looks like a PITA with the pitiful amount of daihatsu I have. Will try and do 4/5/6 on hard though for the planes. E-7H plane looks good but well.....don't think I have a shot at that.

Kakurin

2017-08-12, 16:56

Asking in advance: Can we use those tiny escort patrol boats in E-1?

I like their ability to OASW as I don't have a lot of ships that can OASW.
Yes you can. But they are vulnerable as hell with their paper armour.

KanbeKotori

2017-08-12, 22:21

Yes you can. But they are vulnerable as hell with their paper armour.

Thinking of setting one as flagship for protection and pray.....because I don't know what are the chances of beating the loli sub hime without OASW.

Her armor isn't as high as sub hime, but people were saying she is still tough to sink.

Rocksmash

2017-08-12, 22:41

She's actually much easier to sink thanks to the new damage bonus from using the sonar+DC+DCP setup. I sank her with 4 ships having this setup and only 2 of them were OASW (Katori and a CL).

The only problem was getting there. It took me about 15 sorties to clear this map and most of them was due to retreats. Maybe if I wasn't such a lazy arse to send out a support expedition, the total sorties might be less.

Kakurin

2017-08-13, 03:38

Got Amagiri randomly off an A-rank at the boss node of E3. Was so not expecting it that I just automatically clicked her away. Well, at least her CG didn't display. :heh:

EDIT: This was much smoother than I anticipated. Didn't even realize I was already in the killzone (thought I needed another half-kill) and came within 20 HP of S-ranking the final dance in day combat. I used neither support fleet for the clearing phase, just for the record.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-13, 05:31

Kakurin

2017-08-13, 06:02

Yeah, apparently the Boss battle is easiert than the transport phase.
Did you use CarDiv2 btw?

They have been reported to do more damage there.
Didn't have any problems with the transport phase either, though I used map support.

For the transport phase the lineup was: Mogami - Mikuma - Kisaragi - Mutsuki - Z1 - Z3 & Abukuma - Atago - Takao - Hatsuharu/Akatsuki - Fubuki - Ōi

For the clearing phase I replaced the DDs in the first fleet with Hiei, CarDiv2 and Zuihō and inserted Teruzuki for Hatsuharu/Akatsuki (though Akatsuki was used once when Fubuki left as FCF escort).

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-13, 06:39

Didn't have any problems with the transport phase either, though I used map support.

For the transport phase the lineup was: Mogami - Mikuma - Kisaragi - Mutsuki - Z1 - Z3 & Abukuma - Atago - Takao - Hatsuharu/Akatsuki - Fubuki - Ōi

For the clearing phase I replaced the DDs in the first fleet with Hiei, CarDiv2 and Zuihō and inserted Teruzuki for Hatsuharu/Akatsuki (though Akatsuki was used once when Fubuki left as FCF escort).

I had a few retreats, I didn't use map support, and boss support only for 3 runs. - e3 feels a lot easier than e2 too

All in all I wasted far too many ships on this lock imho - Mostly low level ones but then I saw there is a historical route too :rolleyes:

I possibly quit hard mode a bit too soon too - didn't want to loose my sanity. I need a great portion of it to not give some customers the answer their phone-behavior requires :D

lfhoule

2017-08-13, 17:22

I've seen Ro- / Yuu-chan's picts for a couple of days now, and I have to ask: which one of the pair of pics is her damaged pic? Her getting a brain freeze....?

Klashikari

2017-08-13, 17:26

The damaged CG is indeed the one where she has a headache after eating her ice cream.

bhl88

2017-08-13, 18:15

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-13, 18:24

I'm now picking the ships to save for the remaining E-2 to E-5)

I was thinking (E-4 to E-6 needs one Euro ship I heard)

BBV (Fusou/Ise/Yamashiro Kai Ni)
DD (My weakest destroyers perhaps: Kawakaze, Yukikaze... etc.)
CL (Yuubari/Ooyodo/Isuzu Kai Ni/Naka-chan)
CVL (Zuihou/RJ/formerly Whale-chan/Chiyoda)

Apparently Warspite and Purin do addtional damage on E4 (is at least what the wiki claims) So I'd keep my italians for the Red Sea.

I'm doing E4 like this:
Warspite, Mogami, Atago, Souryuu, Junyou, Hiyou + Jintsuu, Purin,Haguro,Hatsuzuki, Akatsuki, Ushio.

Be aware though that E5 and E6 are two different locks. I only looked quick and thought they are the same so I only got 1 Duck left.
Which is pretty funny, because if I had seen this earlier, then I could have used Fubuki instead of Akizuki in E3 :heh:

Oh well it was still the right decision for my fleet... Ship level wise that is.

bhl88

2017-08-13, 18:38

Apparently Warspite and Purin do addtional damage on E4 (is at least what the wiki claims) So I'd keep my italians for the Red Sea.

I'm doing E4 like this:
Warspite, Mogami, Atago, Souryuu, Junyou, Hiyou + Jintsuu, Purin,Haguro,Hatsuzuki, Akatsuki, Ushio.

Be aware though that E5 and E6 are two different locks. I only looked quick and thought they are the same so I only got 1 Duck left.
Which is pretty funny, because if I had seen this earlier, then I could have used Fubuki instead of Akizuki in E3 :heh:

Oh well it was still the right decision for my fleet... Ship level wise that is.

I have like 4 European ships: Italia, Purin, Libeccio and Ro-500. I doubt I'd be able to use them at the start since Italia is my strongest Euro ship
What goes in E-2+E-3 and E-4?

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-13, 19:18

I have like 4 European ships: Italia, Purin, Libeccio and Ro-500. I doubt I'd be able to use them at the start since Italia is my strongest Euro ship
What goes in E-2+E-3 and E-4?

According to the wiki (note the wiki itself says that its still under testing:( english one that is)

e2: No historical ships, but it has the same lock as e3 -
E3:
BB: Kongou Class
CV Akagi,Souryuu, Hiryuu
CAV Mogami, Mikuma, Suzuya, Kumano
CL Sendai, Yura, Abukuma
DD Fubuki, Urakaze, Hatsuyuki

Hiryuu and Souryuu also seem to do additional damage there. Also don't waste a duck on this lock. I made that mistake because E5 and E6s lock look different, but Bucky should be able to AACI it out fine ( seriously they need to stop using different shades of green for different locks :rolleyes:)

Setup I used(Note I got carDiv2 twice, because planes) :

E3 Transport:
Really I shuffled around a lot here; Best don't use all your Daihatsu carriers as you need them later in E5
E3 - Boss:
Hiryuu, Souryuu, Suzuya, Mikuma, Kumano, Hiei + Sendai, Kako, Furutaka, Kiso Shigure/ayanami/Akizuki (better use Fubuki instead)

E4- phase 1:
Again, this is under testing:
Warspite -> Gives additional Day damage for all ships
Purin: Appears to do additional damage; Mostly noticable with a torp cut-in setup.

E4 allows you to use slow ships btw. So this is imho a good place for using a certain alcoholic.

All in all I try using my weaker ships earlier, so I got the stronger ones for the other locks while still using as many modifiers as possible. - I got a bigger pool of EU ships though, so I can afford risking the e4 thing being a ruse.

It really depends what difficulty you want to play on. Yuu though is imho not an option for routing - the new Abyssal DDs are a general pain in the ass, so I wouldn't want to see whether they are good against subs.

Klashikari

2017-08-13, 20:31

Prinz Eugen definitely doesn't get any special damage modifier in E4. I can attest that considering I was stuck there for 40K fuel and I hardly saw any special crit with either DA or torp CI.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-13, 21:29

I couldn't even test it for normal diff yet, because mine flat out refused to do a cut in, despite having a skilled lookout :/ - The Hime has a lot of armor too though.
Well I'll see if I can get her to cut in tomorrow, by using a star shell - for time for some sleep.

Myssa Rei

2017-08-14, 01:30

bhl88

2017-08-14, 02:53

Hard.

DE? Oh lol I don't have her on Kai. She's a ship I'm training.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-14, 03:48

Farming for Sagiri on Hard seems a set up for a LOT of headaches, but I wanna get the Seafire but clear the non-Extra Ops parts of the events quickly, so sorry Sagiri.

Okay, on to E-1H. Does BBV + training CL + 2DD + 2DE do the trick for Sub Hime?
Can't recommend using DE.
As far as I remember only a max of 2 nodes even have subs, and their armor is even thinner than a DDs.
I went with
BBV(Ise), CVL(Taiyo), 2CL, 2 DD
All but the BBV O ASW optimized

Theoretically you can use DDEs though.

Hard.

Be really careful what you use on the E2+3 lock then.

Edit:
Those freaking PT Imps on E4 are starting to get on my nerves. - My BBs seem to have a tendency to target them over something they can actually hit :rolleyes:

edit2:
I'm so done with Purin's Cut-In setup for the time being.
I just literally failed the final kill because she didn't cut in -.-
I can also underline what Klashikari said about there being no special damage modifier for Purin in particular.
Only thing that remains to be seen is whether she triggers Warspite's supposed day damage buff, when combined with certain ships.

KanbeKotori

2017-08-14, 09:09

Which map is Taiyou best used in?

E-3 or E-6?

Klashikari

2017-08-14, 10:28

She is pointless in E6. I never felt the need of using her in E3 either.

Kakurin

2017-08-14, 10:46

E4 boss' armour is way too thick. First final dance run went as good as I could've hoped for. With a green T my fleet eliminated everybody but the boss for minimal damage. Going into night battle with 427 HP I had Kiso getting taiha'd. But on the other hand I got cut-ins from both Yukikaze and Purin. Still fell short by 87 HP. :heh:

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-14, 12:49

Which map is Taiyou best used in?
E1
E-3 or E-6?

E4 boss' armour is way too thick. First final dance run went as good as I could've hoped for. With a green T my fleet eliminated everybody but the boss for minimal damage. Going into night battle with 427 HP I had Kiso getting taiha'd. But on the other hand I got cut-ins from both Yukikaze and Purin. Still fell short by 87 HP. :heh:

You tell me :/.
For me the hime was in range where all purin had to do was doing a cut in and the hime would have been dead - Well she didn't and the hime survived with 31 HP...

Kakurin

2017-08-14, 15:10

E4 reminding me why I absolutely loathe cut-in setups. Made the boss trip only four times up till now in the final dance mode. Three times neither Yukikaze nor Purin cut-in (and during the last run as if to tease me Purin's non-cut-in torpedo strike dealt 161 damage knocking Abyssal Richelieu to 99 HP). And for some reason Abyssal Richelieu loves pummeling Kiso. Each of the four times she targeted and obliterated a healthy Kiso.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-14, 16:12

^
I didn't even know you can use CLTs here :heh:
Well of course she also decided to hit Ooi.

However Purin, decided to step up her game (finally) and took care of it with a double shot crit (over 200 dmg)

Kakurin

2017-08-14, 17:22

Does E4 have a debuff or something like that? Just had a Purin cut-in deal 60 damage. Freaking ridiculous. Right now I'd love to smack Tanaka against the wall that's figuratively in front of me. :heh:

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-14, 18:14

Is it certain that the E5 debuff needs S rank on Hard mode?
Those mPT imps protecting the Supply Hime are horrible...

Azurial

2017-08-14, 19:35

God E-6 TP phase is soooooo long still need 600 more after 20 runs :(

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-14, 21:00

e5H:
They really either need to reduce the amount of nodes they give us, or extend the time on the map support.
It takes up to 5 minutes to set all that up, depending on how many squads you need to direct...

Kakurin

2017-08-15, 02:13

http://i.imgur.com/pouZbo2h.png

New day, new luck. First sortie of the day cleared E4. Didn't expect it to be honest. Got Murakumo taiha'd on the pre-boss node. While my fleet managed to clear all the trash (and got perfect targeting by my first fleet, Pola eliminated a Ta-class, Mutsu eliminated a Ta-class, then Warspite took care of the Wo) I had Yukikaze and Shimakaze in chūha and during night battle Abyssal Richelieu did what she likes the most - pummeling Kiso. So having to shave off over 500 HP with basically only two healthy kanmusu? Tough job. But Sendai and Shimakaze did well, Yukikaze unexpectedly dealt 80 damage with her cut-in. With Abyssal Richelieu at 161 HP Purin fired off a 200+ cut-in. Good girl. Speaking of her, after a series of no cut-ins I ditched the lookouts I had on her for another 6* quint torpedo (my Purin is Maruyu-fed to 53 luck), so I had four 6* quints on her in the end...

http://i.imgur.com/jl9qoeF.png

http://i.imgur.com/fl6ELbv.png

LoweGear

2017-08-15, 04:32

So apparently Ark Royal can perform night battle. (https://imgur.com/a/Z0A4u)

Ithekro

2017-08-15, 04:40

Well Swordfish had radar and they did attack at night. Hence Taranto (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Taranto).

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-15, 04:41

Yeah but only with swordfish,
So maybe those plane parts aren't supposed for the F6F-5 after all and instead to get her some Skilled Swordfish MK3:heh:

Edit:
E5: Does Graf get a damage bonus or has she always been such a decent CV?
I kind of don't remember her doing that much damage... ever... Its rather rare that I can bring a lv 65 ship to an EO on hard without it becoming a general victim for almost every abyssal...

ganbaru

2017-08-15, 06:28

Finally, E4 is done with a 311 point torpedo cut-it from Myoukou. I was hoping to keep her for a later map but the lack of result frustrated me too much.

Kakurin

2017-08-15, 09:57

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-15, 10:27

As easy as the chipping phase of E5 was, as annoying is its final dance. The route has two hazardous nodes. And you can't do anything about them with map support since it's either the sub node, or the air node...

Don't forget the PT imps - those can screw you over badly too.
I really wonder how long it will take until I can get a fleet both to the boss AND kill it :heh:

I am actually thinking of replacing Graf with another CV - just to squeeze out some extra AA for that node.
Also maybe it was a bug in KC3, but is it possible to get ReTs on air nodes when you got a Saiun equipped?

Edit: Totally unsure if Boss support is worth the bother. The increase in Formation diff is minor, and there is a 8/10 chance to get rhekt on the way, even with node support.

Sheba

2017-08-15, 11:26

My little Aryan just pulled it!

http://i.imgur.com/XFbAXK5m.jpg (http://imgur.com/XFbAXK5)
http://i.imgur.com/sfnB8Srm.jpg (http://imgur.com/sfnB8Sr)

http://i.imgur.com/NiAUzO7m.jpg (http://imgur.com/NiAUzO7)

Notable drop: JFK-tan

http://i.imgur.com/jWVZRsJ.png

I was struggling because I persisted in using Nagato and not using TCI, but TA or mixed CI for Purin and Myoukou. I swapped Nagato with Yamato and the difference could be felt as I have had less trash by the time the squishies fleet took their turn to attack. Sparkled support exped helped too.

Kakurin

2017-08-15, 11:42

I was struggling because I persisted in using Nagato and not using TCI, but TA or mixed CI for Purin and Myoukou. I swapped Nagato with Yamato and the difference could be felt as I have had less trash by the time the squishies fleet took their turn to attack. Sparkled support exped helped too.
At one point I got so irritated by E4 that I thought about using my second Yamato (non-Kai level 90, but even non-Kai Yamato is very powerful, 10 FP/AA/ARM less than at Kai). But then again, my problem at E4 wasn't the trash, so I refrained from doing it.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-15, 13:31

e5 Hard done without boss support.
If you do the boss debuff its actualyl rather easy once you are past the troll subs and Pts

That being said don't bother with fighters in your LBA force - mine entered with AS and AS+ on the final dance without any fighters present.
I also managed to pick up that DE there so i don't have to return anymore... Well maybe later for Z3.

Kakurin

2017-08-15, 13:41

e5 Hard done without boss support.
If you do the boss debuff its actualyl rather easy once you are past the troll subs and Pts
Chipping phase is a cakewalk. Last dance is a lottery. The two times I made it to the boss node I ended with 15 and 30 HP left.

ganbaru

2017-08-15, 13:42

e5 Hard done without boss support.
If you do the boss debuff its actualyl rather easy once you are past the troll subs and Pts

I go with double line on node D and it seem to work most of the time, what's giving me the biggest problem right now is node F, even when using Teruzuki with my best AAIC setup and Kaga .

Klashikari

2017-08-15, 13:58

Use 2CV with an Akizuki class, assuming you have 3 european ships already. That node is the primary issue of this map, otherwise it is a cake walk.

Kakurin

2017-08-15, 14:01

Use 2CV with an Akizuki class, assuming you have 3 european ships already. That node is the primary issue of this map, otherwise it is a cake walk.
Already using Teruzuki since I entered the killzone which was like six hours ago.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-15, 14:41

Chipping phase is a cakewalk. Last dance is a lottery. The two times I made it to the boss node I ended with 15 and 30 HP left.

Since I assume you already did the Debuff:
Are you using Graf?
Its not much, but her Night battle can really help sometimes. (For me she also oftenoutdamaged Kagas highest plane slot, with both having had the same plane equipped)
Mine was Equipped with
15TP plane, FWT, FWT, Saiun(Eastern) btw.

Only anomaly I experienced was that I still got a Red T on an air node. My Graf is just lv 65 btw.

Kakurin

2017-08-15, 14:55

Are you using Graf?
Yes I am. Level 99.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-15, 15:13

Thats a ton of bad RNG then :/
----

Regarding E6:
That transport gauge's TP amount is a joke, and the enemy compilations the punchline (literally).
Not sure what they were thinking - There is basically almost no way to do this under 20 runs (even if all of them are S rank) without getting AI at the bass node.

Klashikari

2017-08-15, 15:45

It is actually possible to do that way under 20 runs if you optimize your fleet, and it is possible to have a 90%+ chance to reach the boss and have a 100% S rank. But it is expensive as hell.
If I had the proper equipment, I could probably have done it within 10 runs, but I had to settle with 15-16.

ganbaru

2017-08-15, 16:13

Klashikari

2017-08-15, 16:16

The trick is simple: the game doesn't even force you to do the first phase with a transport fleet. So you can simply go with a kidou butai first fleet, and have your second fleet entirely composed of TP harvesters.
Obviously, both supports are mandatory.

I had 15 daihatsu and 2 drums, which lead to 168 TP per run for any S rank, assuming no one got crit to taiha.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-15, 16:38

Kakurin

2017-08-15, 16:48

Well, finally pulled through. Cost me some nerves. In the end I lost my patience and equipped Hatsuzuki with a reinforcement expansion and put Bofors onto her as well as a Bofors onto Kaga's expansion slot...

Won't take a look at E6 today. Starting the day with a final dance S-rank and ending the day with a final dance S-rank is enough. E5 final dance took me half a freaking day. OTZ

Klashikari

2017-08-15, 17:13

how manay buckets did it cost you, though?
76. Hardly expensive considering that map. I'm pretty sure going with a regular transport fleet would be way more expensive in term of buckets.
Using supports and LBAS all the time in conjunction with a full force fleet was more annoying: 23-25K fuel/ammo just for phase 1.

In comparison, phase 2 was a breeze: 10k fuel/ammo and merely 37 buckets.

That map still costed me less than E4 (40k + 200 buckets).

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-15, 17:25

76. Hardly expensive considering that map. I'm pretty sure going with a regular transport fleet would be way more expensive in term of buckets.
Using supports and LBAS all the time in conjunction with a full force fleet was more annoying: 23-25K fuel/ammo just for phase 1.

In comparison, phase 2 was a breeze: 10k fuel/ammo and merely 37 buckets.

That map still costed me less than E4 (40k + 200 buckets).

Thx. I just tried that using a CTF instead and the result was WAY better than before.
I won't manage more than 131 TP per run, but thats still better than getting 90% of my fleet damaged due to air incapability...

Difference atm is 4 vs 10 damaged ships :heh:

bhl88

2017-08-15, 18:07

According to the wiki (note the wiki itself says that its still under testing:( english one that is)

e2: No historical ships, but it has the same lock as e3 -
E3:
BB: Kongou Class
CV Akagi,Souryuu, Hiryuu
CAV Mogami, Mikuma, Suzuya, Kumano
CL Sendai, Yura, Abukuma
DD Fubuki, Urakaze, Hatsuyuki

Hiryuu and Souryuu also seem to do additional damage there. Also don't waste a duck on this lock. I made that mistake because E5 and E6s lock look different, but Bucky should be able to AACI it out fine ( seriously they need to stop using different shades of green for different locks :rolleyes:)

Setup I used(Note I got carDiv2 twice, because planes) :

E3 Transport:
Really I shuffled around a lot here; Best don't use all your Daihatsu carriers as you need them later in E5
E3 - Boss:
Hiryuu, Souryuu, Suzuya, Mikuma, Kumano, Hiei + Sendai, Kako, Furutaka, Kiso Shigure/ayanami/Akizuki (better use Fubuki instead)

E4- phase 1:
Again, this is under testing:
Warspite -> Gives additional Day damage for all ships
Purin: Appears to do additional damage; Mostly noticable with a torp cut-in setup.
E1:
Ise
Kawakaze / Yukikaze
Nano Desu
Hatsuzuki
Yuubari
Zuihou
E2+E3 says:

Route opening fleet: 1 FBB, 2 CV, 1 CVL, 1 DD, 1 SS
So Kirishima, Akagi, Soryuu, RJ/Former Whale, 1 DD would be Zekamashi (modified) or Ushio and I-8
Clearing: 1 FBB, 1 CL, 2 DD, 1 CV, 1 CVL
Kirishima, KTKM/Ooi/Kiso, Zekamashi... twintailed Shiratsuyu class Mu-... forgot her name, Akagi and RJ/former whale (not fully modified)
(Aoba is here, at level 50)
E4-E6 (more powerful ships that are modified)
Yuudachi/Verniy/Fubuki/Shigure/Akatsuki/Murakumo (for a DD)
Maya /Ashigara / Haguro / Kako (for a CA)
Haruna (for a FBB)
Prinz Eugen /Italia / Ro-500 / Libeccio (for a foreigner ship that is required)
Sendai/Jintsuu (for a CL)
Zuikaku (for a CV)
Yamashiro (for a BBV)

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-15, 18:10

E1:
Ise
Kawakaze / Yukikaze
Nano Desu
Hatsuzuki
Yuubari
Zuihou
E2+E3 says:

Route opening fleet: 1 FBB, 2 CV, 1 CVL, 1 DD, 1 SS
So Kirishima, Akagi, Soryuu, RJ/Former Whale, 1 DD would be Zekamashi (modified) or Ushio and I-8
Clearing: 1 FBB, 1 CL, 2 DD, 1 CV, 1 CVL
Kirishima, KTKM/Ooi/Kiso, Zekamashi... twintailed Shiratsuyu class Mu-... forgot her name, Akagi and RJ/former whale (not fully modified)
(Aoba is here, at level 50)
E4-E6 (more powerful ships that are modified)
Yuudachi/Verniy/Fubuki/Shigure/Akatsuki/Murakumo (for a DD)
Maya /Ashigara / Haguro / Kako (for a CA)
Haruna (for a FBB)
Prinz Eugen /Italia / Ro-500 / Libeccio (for a foreigner ship that is required)
Sendai/Jintsuu (for a CL)
Zuikaku (for a CV)
Yamashiro (for a BBV)

Actually if you want to do it on hard mode you need three foreign ships for E5.
You also need 2 to get the potentially existing Warspite buff ( Warspite + Purin)

Its Murasame btw ._.

bhl88

2017-08-15, 21:33

Lol I don't have enough foreign ships, is that a requirement or it's just an easy routing?

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-16, 01:41

bhl88

2017-08-16, 12:52

In e4 Warspite + 2nd one are a requirement for a dmg buff that may or may not exist.

In e5 you get substancially easier routing. (Skipping 2 dumb nodes)

Edit:
To be precise for E5 you need 1/2/3 European ships for the special routing - depending on difficulty.
Note that the english wiki still hasn't confirmed the damage bonus in E4 btw.

I think I got it (incomplete because they said you need 3 Europeans for each, all my modified ships went for E4):
E1:
Ise / Yamashiro
Shimakaze / Yukikaze
Nano Desu
Hatsuzuki
Yuubari
Zuihou
E2+E3:
Kirishima
Akagi
Soryuu
RJ/Former Whale
Mutsuki
Kawakaze
Ro-500
Kirishima
Kiso
Mutsuki
Kawakaze
Akagi and RJ/former whale (not fully modified)
E4:
Mutsu
Kongou
Ashigara
Junyou
Chitose
Haguro
----------
Jintsuu
Verniy
Yuudachi
Maya (AA)
Suzuya
Fubuki (AA) / Ooi (CLT)
-----------
E-5
Littorio
Libeccio
Prinz Eugen
Akatsuki
Kaga
Zuikaku
E6 (different lock):
Mogami
Suzuya
Mutsuki
Fubuki
Kisaragi
Shigure
-----
Yuudachi
Verniy
Sendai
Akatsuki
Zuikaku
Kaga
E6 HP:
Zuikaku
Kaga
Taihou
Maya
Suzuya
Mogami
----
Sendai
Yuudachi
Verniy
KTKM
Ooi
Kiso

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-16, 17:33

My main concern is that the ship levels you have shown me aren't really up to hard mode (if you still want to do that) that much imho.
People hereonce suggested me that your shipgirls should be at least around lv 80 to be event ready.

There is an easier way to post your fleet f you are using KC3 btw:
In the strategy panel go to Showcase, and from there you can export them as pictures or even Imugur links.

E2+3:
You can go without a sub there - I didn't try it on medium because getting a sub past these new DDs looked like a pain. They pretty much feature a 20 ASW Spotter.

E4: Assuming those are your strongest ships and all are above lv 65 this should be fine. A lot depends on whether they are Kai Ni too.

e6:
You will need some Diahatsu carriers here if you ever want this to end; Even easy requires more than 1K TP, hard goes completely nuts and asks for 1800

cloud04

2017-08-16, 17:43

is there any other need to have oasw outside of e1?

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-16, 17:47

E7 and mayyybeee e6.

Kakurin

2017-08-16, 18:01

http://i.imgur.com/iQj1dMh.png

What a change of pace from you usual transport mission. Wrecking the hell out of E6-H (this by the way, is the second consecutive run without buckets needed). Two successful runs to go till clearing. 25 buckets consumed till now. Fuel though over 17k... Getting 159 TP per S-rank.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-16, 18:09

Oh thats why I needed so many buckets...
Klashikari prolly used one like you did while I use 2CV + 4DD + 1CL,1FBB, 3DD :heh:

Still its way better than the transport fleet :heh:

Edit: That being said the Mutsukis ddo a surprisinly high amount of dmg against that Hime.

Kakurin

2017-08-16, 18:30

And that was it for the transport phase. In the end 27 buckets used. But 20k fuel and 22k ammo. Also picked up Lui along the way - off an A-rank nonetheless.

Oh thats why I needed so many buckets...
Klashikari prolly used one like you did while I use 2CV + 4DD + 1CL,1FBB, 3DD :heh:
I saw no point in strapping myself with such a weak fleet just to avoid the Ru-class at node G. Just bring enough firepower to the party and crush them.

blitz1/2

2017-08-16, 18:40

Just a question for E2, is P and Q nodes needed for anything?

Kakurin

2017-08-16, 18:48

Just a question for E2, is P and Q nodes needed for anything?
Farming Sagiri at node Q.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-16, 18:55

And that was it for the transport phase. In the end 27 buckets used. But 20k fuel and 22k ammo. Also picked up Lui along the way - off an A-rank nonetheless.

I saw no point in strapping myself with such a weak fleet just to avoid the Ru-class at node G. Just bring enough firepower to the party and crush them.

Tried it twice and for me its just a DD hazard :/

Edit: Finally done with the Transport phase.
Not sure if I really want to start with the Boss debuff today though.

bhl88

2017-08-16, 22:41

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-17, 01:33

What bonus is that though? I have Mutsuki and Kisaragi on standby

Not a 'bonus' in particular.
My suspicion is that the Daihatsus and so on just make them hit harder without showing the animation when in the main fleet.
You should still kep them for that though - its 1350/1500/1800 TP (Easy/Med/Hard)

Kakurin

2017-08-17, 01:40

You should still kep them for that though - its 1350/1500/1800 TP (Easy/Med/Hard)
1800? I had 2000. The pain of being a level 120 teitoku. ;)

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-17, 02:33

1800? I had 2000. The pain of being a level 120 teitoku. ;)

Nah, thats just me having remembered it wrong (must be denial that I actually managed to suffer through that :heh:) - Its 2000 no idea where I got the 1800 from.

Kakurin

2017-08-17, 02:37

Nah, thats just me having remembered it wrong (must be denial that I actually managed to suffer through that :heh:) - Its 2000 no idea where I got the 1800 from.
Actually it can range from 1800-2000 depending on HQ level.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-17, 03:10

Actually it can range from 1800-2000 depending on HQ level.

Dunno then. For some reason I remembered 1800, but KC3 said it was 2k.
I'm lv 109 btw.

Edit:
Maybe it raised towards the end, since I'm pretty close to 110 by now. That would explain why I suddenly needed more runs than I calculated the day before. - Or KC3 was just plain wrong before :heh:

bhl88

2017-08-17, 03:24

Not a 'bonus' in particular.
My suspicion is that the Daihatsus and so on just make them hit harder without showing the animation when in the main fleet.
You should still kep them for that though - its 1350/1500/1800 TP (Easy/Med/Hard)

I think I lacked something...
What to do with Yamashiro (thinking of removing Mutsu)
E4:
Mutsu
Kongou
Ashigara
Junyou
Chitose
Prinz
----------
Jintsuu
Verniy
Yuudachi
Maya (AA)
Suzuya
Fubuki (AA) / Ooi (CLT) (which one of the two)

I forgot I have no second fleet for E3. (https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=6124052#post6124052)

My main concern is that the ship levels you have shown me aren't really up to hard mode (if you still want to do that) that much imho.
People hereonce suggested me that your shipgirls should be at least around lv 80 to be event ready.

There is an easier way to post your fleet f you are using KC3 btw:
In the strategy panel go to Showcase, and from there you can export them as pictures or even Imugur links.

E2+3:
You can go without a sub there - I didn't try it on medium because getting a sub past these new DDs looked like a pain. They pretty much feature a 20 ASW Spotter.

E4: Assuming those are your strongest ships and all are above lv 65 this should be fine. A lot depends on whether they are Kai Ni too.

e6:
You will need some Diahatsu carriers here if you ever want this to end; Even easy requires more than 1K TP, hard goes completely nuts and asks for 1800

Yeah I don't have a CL that can carry that. So I have to do it the old fashioned way (brute force).
Except Suzuya and Prinz, all of them are Kai Ni (was thinking of swapping Mutsu for Yamashiro, but it would probably cancel out the combination [aka can't enter]).

Yeah true I can choose to go without a sub. What should go for the SS?
Route opening fleet: 1 FBB, 2 CV, 1 CVL, 1 DD, 1 SS Clearing: 1 FBB, 1 CL, 2 DD, 1 CV, 1 CVL
https://twitter.com/1106gi_kun/status/896256218846552068?s=09 <- I don't have all the stuff he has (not even the second dragon, another CA/etc)

And I thought the blue marks means event ready (barely event ready)

Kakurin

2017-08-17, 08:50

Feeling a bit dumb because I waited with the E6 debuff until I had gotten a bloody nose after my first trip to E6 last dance. Yes, it was a green T, but the ease with which my fleet (of which the second fleet had three chūha already) was stunning. Basically one-shotting everything in the way, even the BBH.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-17, 11:31

I think I lacked something...
What to do with Yamashiro (thinking of removing Mutsu)
E4:
Mutsu
Kongou
Ashigara
Junyou
Chitose
Prinz
----------
Jintsuu
Verniy
Yuudachi
Maya (AA)
Suzuya
Fubuki (AA) / Ooi (CLT) (which one of the two)

I forgot I have no second fleet for E3. (https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=6124052#post6124052)

Yeah I don't have a CL that can carry that. So I have to do it the old fashioned way (brute force).
Except Suzuya and Prinz, all of them are Kai Ni (was thinking of swapping Mutsu for Yamashiro, but it would probably cancel out the combination [aka can't enter]).

Yeah true I can choose to go without a sub. What should go for the SS?
Route opening fleet: 1 FBB, 2 CV, 1 CVL, 1 DD, 1 SS Clearing: 1 FBB, 1 CL, 2 DD, 1 CV, 1 CVL
https://twitter.com/1106gi_kun/status/896256218846552068?s=09 <- I don't have all the stuff he has (not even the second dragon, another CA/etc)

And I thought the blue marks means event ready (barely event ready)

You can use a BBV for E6 too - Makes debuffing easier

Feeling a bit dumb because I waited with the E6 debuff until I had gotten a bloody nose after my first trip to E6 last dance. Yes, it was a green T, but the ease with which my fleet (of which the second fleet had three chūha already) was stunning. Basically one-shotting everything in the way, even the BBH.

Did you still have 3CLT when you went there or did you substitute them with something else?

blitz1/2

2017-08-17, 11:59

That stupid destroyer princess is preventing me from clearing e2!!!

bhl88

2017-08-17, 12:41

You can use a BBV for E6 too - Makes debuffing easier

Did you still have 3CLT when you went there or did you substitute them with something else?

I found out that E1, E2-E3, E4 and E5 have different tags.

So I can still use Suzuya?

Kakurin

2017-08-17, 13:12

Did you still have 3CLT when you went there or did you substitute them with something else?
I used two only the first place.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-17, 16:23

I found out that E1, E2-E3, E4 and E5 have different tags.

So I can still use Suzuya?

If you havent useed Suzuya before then yes.
Its pretty much the problem I had which is why I am now left with the Tones for E6.

E1: Grey Tag
E2 + E3: Blue Tag
E4: Orange tag
E5: Dark green tag
E6 Light green tag

Especially the alst two are annoying me for a while now because its easy to mistake one for the other. - Pretty much the same with these two Tags every event :/

Keep Yamashiro for E6 btw - You can use a BBV there for the debuff phase.

I used two only the first place.

I wish I still had two. I will likely have to substitute 2 of them with Tone and Zara :heh:

blitz1/2

2017-08-17, 16:38

Spent the WHOLE day on E2 last dance, man that stupid DD hime and it's pre emp torp.

EDIT: FINALLY CLEARED E2 and got Sagiri while going there! Yura MVP!!

ganbaru

2017-08-17, 17:21

55 runs. It took me 55 run to beat E5. At least I got Matsuwa on the killing run.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-17, 19:16

The E6 Buff is horrible I'm expending more buckets than I needed for getting the TP bar own atm and still can't S rank with a transport Fleet despite both node and Boss support.
That is if I get past Node D in the first place.

Klashikari

2017-08-17, 19:28

I never bothered with the debuff in E6. The boss was pretty much straightforward and fall prey to a simple Suijou setup and every LBA sent at her.

Meanwhile, I think I will take a break of 1 or 2 week. I had 200K and spent 20K on the 2 gimmicks alone (thanks to I/J branching being completely random), but the biggest issue is the map itself for the actual boss runs.
But if it wasn't enough, I've spent extra 40K thus far, and I'm barely around half HP. Being forced to face a boss gauntlet is not only annoying, but there is almost nothing you can do against the submarine princess.

But the other "nice surprise" is the fact that the LOS requirement is really strict. If I send back a ship that isn't a CLT or a DD, I'm condamned to be sent off course.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-17, 19:45

^
You probably got a stronger fleet than me though :/

Finally managed to get through, and have AS by equipping Ise with 2 plane squads.
All in all this map is likely the one that will cost me most buckets after e7, which i am no longer sure I want to do on hard or even medium mode.

bhl88

2017-08-17, 21:30

If you havent useed Suzuya before then yes.
Its pretty much the problem I had which is why I am now left with the Tones for E6.

E1: Grey Tag
E2 + E3: Blue Tag
E4: Orange tag
E5: Dark green tag
E6 Light green tag

Especially the alst two are annoying me for a while now because its easy to mistake one for the other. - Pretty much the same with these two Tags every event :/

Keep Yamashiro for E6 btw - You can use a BBV there for the debuff phase.

I wish I still had two. I will likely have to substitute 2 of them with Tone and Zara :heh:

Oh I'll just ditch Mogami then. Suzuya first priority to level up xD

Kakurin

2017-08-18, 00:42

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-18, 07:59

You only need an A-rank at node H. I only used boss support and sent one LBA squadron to D.

Means a total of 7 useless runs for me :/
I could have sworn the englishi wiki said S rank them first :(

On another note: What is it with all the swimsuit teases for girls that don't get a swimsuit Cg anyway? (Shoukaku for example)

blitz1/2

2017-08-18, 11:11

Anybody used Akitsumaru in this event? I am debating whether to use her in any of the transport mission to get that AS.

Sheba

2017-08-18, 11:16

Anybody used Akitsumaru in this event? I am debating whether to use her in any of the transport mission to get that AS.

Depending on how many CAV you have, you can do fine without needing to deploy Akitsumaru.

bhl88

2017-08-18, 11:25

I still have thought of using her. Maybe I should do it for E-3.... but then she probably can't equip Daihatsu

blitz1/2

2017-08-18, 13:46

I feel like so a fool for not using a CTF for E3 transport gauge

Additional note: Which do you thinkis easier to farm Amagiri, E3 or E4?

KanbeKotori

2017-08-18, 15:18

I still have thought of using her. Maybe I should do it for E-3.... but then she probably can't equip Daihatsu

Why can't she? o.O

Akitsumaru is the first ship to carry a daihatsu ever.

She's also the only amphibious assault ship so far.....

bhl88

2017-08-18, 15:31

Why can't she? o.O

Akitsumaru is the first ship to carry a daihatsu ever.

She's also the only amphibious assault ship so far.....

Oh, just distracted thinking what my third fleet will be.
My first fleet is already trying to get RNG.

bhl88

2017-08-18, 16:45

Kirishima
Kiso
Mutsuki
Kawakaze
Akagi and RJ/former whale (not fully modified)
then looking for a the second one.
AV
DD
DD
CA
CA
CL

Sheba

2017-08-18, 16:49

You dont even post the full list of your ships, those already locked, your equips and a state of your resources. How do you even expect the veterans to help you?

KanbeKotori

2017-08-19, 02:01

Gonna start event now....by the looks of it, don't think I can clear E-7 on hard.

Guess I'll slowly trudge my way past the maps first before thinking

Is 90k bauxite enough for full hard clear(assuming if I have the necessary stuff to tackle E-7 on hard).

Kakurin

2017-08-19, 03:05

Is 90k bauxite enough for full hard clear(assuming if I have the necessary stuff to tackle E-7 on hard).
Bauxite should be the least of your worries. As always, fuel is the critical mass.

bhl88

2017-08-19, 03:33

You dont even post the full list of your ships, those already locked, your equips and a state of your resources. How do you even expect the veterans to help you?

E1 (ASW mode, type 3 sonar depth charge)
Ise 70 I
Hatsushimo 40+ I
Urakaze 27
Murasame 30+ I
Yuubari 70+ I 3 type 3 and depth charge (96), and a rice ball
Zuihou 45+ I (Interceptor hybrid 62, fighter, torpedo Murata, torpedo 93)
(Currently locked on top, boss 1 HP. Supported by shelling. Best record: boss on red, 11 HP)
E2+E3:
Kirishima
Akagi
Soryuu
RJ/Former Whale
Mutsuki
Kawakaze
Ro-500
====== E3
Kirishima
Kiso
Mutsuki
Kawakaze
Akagi and RJ/former whale (not fully modified)

E4:
Mutsu
Kongou
Ashigara
Junyou
Chitose
Haguro
----------
Jintsuu
Verniy
Yuudachi
Maya (AA)
Suzuya 68
Fubuki (AA) / Ooi (CLT)
-----------
E-5
Littorio
Libeccio
New BB?
Akatsuki
Kaga
Zuikaku
E6 (different lock):
Mogami
Suzuya
Mutsuki
Fubuki
Kisaragi
Shigure
-----
Yuudachi
Verniy
Sendai
Akatsuki
Zuikaku
Kaga
E6 HP:
Zuikaku
Kaga
Taihou
Maya
Suzuya
Mogami
----
Sendai
Yuudachi
Verniy
KTKM
Ooi
Kiso

Current vacancies:
Yamashiro Kai Ni planning E-6
Hiei Kai
Fusou Kai
Kako Kai Ni
Aoba Kai
Tone Kai
ABKM Kai 49
Naka Kai Ni
Isuzu Kai Ni
Extra DDs (note, lower than 40): Satsuki Kai, 1 DE, Amatsukaze, 1 AV Kai 36, Agano Kai, Hyuuga Kai

State of equips: unmodified except the 10 cm with aafd and type 1 AP shell

State of resources: 135k, 160k. <- gas bullet heavy
Chugging through gas/bullet resources like Yamato and Musashi taking a one hour hike. Because my E-1 fleet is the weakest.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-19, 04:20

E1 (ASW mode, type 3 sonar depth charge)
Ise 70 I
Hatsushimo 40+ I
Urakaze 27
Murasame 30+ I
Yuubari 70+ I 3 type 3 and depth charge (96), and a rice ball
Zuihou 45+ I (Interceptor hybrid 62, fighter, torpedo Murata, torpedo 93)
(Currently locked on top, boss 1 HP. Supported by shelling. Best record: boss on red, 11 HP)
E2+E3:
Kirishima
Akagi
Soryuu
RJ/Former Whale
Mutsuki
Kawakaze
Ro-500
====== E3
Kirishima
Kiso
Mutsuki
Kawakaze
Akagi and RJ/former whale (not fully modified)

E4:
Mutsu
Kongou
Ashigara
Junyou
Chitose
Haguro
----------
Jintsuu
Verniy
Yuudachi
Maya (AA)
Suzuya 68
Fubuki (AA) / Ooi (CLT)
-----------
E-5
Littorio
Libeccio
New BB?
Akatsuki
Kaga
Zuikaku
E6 (different lock):
Mogami
Suzuya
Mutsuki
Fubuki
Kisaragi
Shigure
-----
Yuudachi
Verniy
Sendai
Akatsuki
Zuikaku
Kaga
E6 HP:
Zuikaku
Kaga
Taihou
Maya
Suzuya
Mogami
----
Sendai
Yuudachi
Verniy
KTKM
Ooi
Kiso

Current vacancies:
Yamashiro Kai Ni planning E-6
Hiei Kai
Fusou Kai
Kako Kai Ni
Aoba Kai
Tone Kai
ABKM Kai 49
Naka Kai Ni
Isuzu Kai Ni
Extra DDs (note, lower than 40): Satsuki Kai, 1 DE, Amatsukaze, 1 AV Kai 36, Agano Kai, Hyuuga Kai

State of equips: unmodified except the 10 cm with aafd and type 1 AP shell

State of resources: 135k, 160k. <- gas bullet heavy
Chugging through gas/bullet resources like Yamato and Musashi taking a one hour hike. Because my E-1 fleet is the weakest.

I think Sheba pretty much meant what I meant for this:
Ship levels, equipment and so on;
Best would be if you could export your ship and equip list from KC3, if you are using it.
You can access the showcase through the strategy rooom -> Showcase; There you just have to select iMUGUR as output medium and export your ship list.
Thats makes it way easier to help your with your fleet. As it also exports it with portrait pictures of the ships and their level.

KanbeKotori

2017-08-19, 04:54

Bauxite should be the least of your worries. As always, fuel is the critical mass.

I have 260k on hand, is that enough?

EDIT: Damn, miscalculated. I am short of 1 fast CVL.......

Guess it's time to spend some time leveling a dupe Chitose/yoda again....

Academus

2017-08-19, 06:00

snipped

E1: need more OASW ships
E2&3: save Kawakaze for E6
E4: need 3 European ships
E5: need 3 European ships, use CVB here

That's off the top of my head.

I have 260k on hand, is that enough?

EDIT: Damn, miscalculated. I am short of 1 fast CVL.......

Guess it's time to spend some time leveling a dupe Chitose/yoda again....

Where do you plan to use them? I don't think you need more than 4.

KanbeKotori

2017-08-19, 06:44

E1: need more OASW ships
E2&3: save Kawakaze for E6
E4: need 3 European ships
E5: need 3 European ships, use CVB here

That's off the top of my head.

Where do you plan to use them? I don't think you need more than 4.

E-6

Using Ryuujou and Zuihou and E-2/3, Chitose on E-4.

E-6 needs 2 fast CVL for Suijou so I'm only left with Chiyoda now. No Shouhou.

Kakurin

2017-08-19, 07:08

E-6 needs 2 fast CVL for Suijou so I'm only left with Chiyoda now. No Shouhou.
Just do the debuff and skip suijō.

KanbeKotori

2017-08-19, 07:15

Just do the debuff and skip suijō.

But what is recommended though? Suijou or Kidou?

Klashikari

2017-08-19, 07:30

Any of them works.
I went with Suijou with just 1 CV and it was a breeze without the debuff. So unless there is a peculiar requirement, I don't think you need 2CVL.

KanbeKotori

2017-08-19, 07:32

Hmm.....okay

I'll leave that level 20 Chiyoda I have one side first and start event.

Don't think I can beat full hard, but minimum I hope to be able to beat E4-6 on hard for the planes.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-19, 07:53

My main issue on this map with a CTF is mainly that my DDs can't survive P after getting damaged against the subs...

Strigon 13

2017-08-19, 08:44

Well, after a heavy week at work decided to just go full Kuso and not care about rewards. Just finish the event.

E-1 to E-3 done last night, and got a good haul out of it (sadly, no event ships so far).

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-19, 09:57

Ok I jsut found out not getting past P was partly my own fault... apparently I forgot to equip Takao with guns :heh: :heh:
Anyway E6H done - now its time to think if I should do e7H too :/

Remaining resources:
Buckets: 919
F:197'829
A:196'190
S:211'400
B: 113'297

Not sure thats enough for hard mode :/

bhl88

2017-08-19, 10:15

E1: need more OASW ships
E2&3: save Kawakaze for E6
E4: need 3 European ships
E5: need 3 European ships, use CVB here

That's off the top of my head.

Where do you plan to use them? I don't think you need more than 4.

E1: Yeah none of my ships came close enough except for the 4x slot Yuubari.
E2: Oh yeah I forgot I swapped Shima and Yukikaze for Urakaze and Hatsushimo.
E3: Yeah they can probably go here as the second transport fleet
E4: If I had more foreigners I would have sent them here. Too bad I can't bring the English returnee.
E5: Okay so Taihou should be here. Need a Prototype catapult because Zuikaku is up

As for KC3, I've been using mobile.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-19, 18:25

Honest question here:
Is the Swordfish III really worth suffering through Hard mode, when its the only thing next to Ark I actually care about in e7?
I mean I don't necessarily need the hard mOde medal. Just wondering if the Swordfish is really worth the effort.

Sheba

2017-08-19, 18:38

Last I heard, Ark can only yasen if equiped with Swordfish. Your call.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-19, 19:27

Last I heard, Ark can only yasen if equiped with Swordfish. Your call.

Basically I'm having trouble surviving Node G, as using CLTs for OASW the only way to gain 5 OASW ships for me.

Edit:
My main worry is that my bauxite reserves are too low for an extensive amount of attemps.

bhl88

2017-08-20, 00:45

E2+E3:
Kirishima
Akagi
Soryuu
RJ/Former Whale
Mutsuki
Kawakaze
Ro-500
====== E3
Kirishima
Kiso
Mutsuki
Kawakaze
Akagi and RJ/former whale (not fully modified)

Current vacancies:
Yamashiro Kai Ni planning E-6
Hiei Kai
Fusou Kai
Kako Kai Ni (E3?)
Aoba Kai (E3?)
Tone Kai
ABKM Kai 49
Naka Kai Ni
Isuzu Kai Ni
Extra DDs (note, lower than 40): Satsuki Kai, 1 DE, Amatsukaze, 1 AV Kai 36, Agano Kai, Hyuuga Kai

State of equips: unmodified except the 10 cm with aafd and type 1 AP shell

State of resources: 135k, 160k. <- gas bullet heavy
Chugging through gas/bullet resources like Yamato and Musashi taking a one hour hike. Because my E-1 fleet is the weakest.

Guess I can use Tone.
Swapped RJ for AKBM
Swapped Soryuu for Tone.
No Ro500
Removed Kawakaze.

50000, then the 4th fleet continues farming baux.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-20, 06:14

I'm starting to get pissed.
No matter what I do I can't seem to get to Node R without at least one critically damaged ship.

I was close once but them the damn CVL one shot Italia :rolleyes:

I started this map with 113k bauxite and am down to 107k and have yet to unlock the dmg debuff or finish the freaking shortcut...
I'll do one last attempt and then try it with a CTF...

Edit: is there any other way than a transport fleet to reach Node P after the route unlock?

Estavali

2017-08-20, 10:58

Hi folks, I'm currently at E-3 doing last dance and would like some advice as to where I should deploy my untagged CVs and CLTs. I'm thinking of something along these lines:

E-3: CarDiv 2, Ooi
E-4: CarDiv 5 + Sara/Kaga + Zeppeli (scratch this, just realise Suijou is the only way to go for this map), KTKM
E-5: Kaga/Sara
E-6: Unryuu girls (any one if Suijou, any two if Kidou), Kiso

Btw for E-3, my current setup is as follows:
http://i.imgur.com/4sC19hP.jpg

kancolle-calc link: http://tinyurl.com/ybrunvot

Hadn't gotten a clean kill of the boss, which worries me :heh:

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-20, 12:17

Can someone pls translate this?
The google translate result is incomprehensibel :/

輸送護衛部隊でP
(ルート解放後装甲ギミック達成前)欧州艦2隻以上かつ第二に重巡1隻以上でもP?
欧州艦2隻以上でO
欧州艦1隻以下かつ大型艦一定以下でP
他はM?

Kakurin

2017-08-20, 13:21

Can someone pls translate this?
The google translate result is incomprehensibel :/

輸送護衛部隊でP
(ルート解放後装甲ギミック達成前)欧州艦2隻以上かつ第二に重巡1隻以上でもP?
欧州艦2隻以上でO
欧州艦1隻以下かつ大型艦一定以下でP
他はM?
1) Transport Fleet goes to P
2) (Post Route Unlock but Pre Armour Debuff) >= 2 European ships and >=1 CA in the second fleet also P?
3) >=2 European ships goes to O
4) <=1 European ship and below a certain amount of capital ships goes to P
5) Others to M?

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-20, 13:59

1) Transport Fleet goes to P
2) (Post Route Unlock but Pre Armour Debuff) >= 2 European ships and >=1 CA in the second fleet also P?
3) >=2 European ships goes to O
4) <=1 European ship and below a certain amount of capital ships goes to P
5) Others to M?

THX!
Finally - my ordeal is at an end and I could A rank it with a STF

For everyone here:

E7 Boss Debuff:
1FBB + 1CV, 2CAV,1DD, 1CL + 1CL, 2DD, 1CLT, +1CA(Purin) goes to P

Exact fleet was
Main:Iowa, Kaga(AA Mule) Naka (ASW), Chikuma, Teruzuki
Esort: Izuzu (ASW), Purin, KTKM, Assashio (ASW), Verniy (ASW)

That being said I will likely do it like Klashikari and take a bit of a break - I feel exhausted and lost pretty much 10k Bauxite and 20-30k of everything else. Also around 100 Buckets down to 829. Notably, just for gimmicks.
I want to get back up to 200k of everything and 950 Buckets before I start taking on the boss.

Sheba

2017-08-21, 00:03

I am at the chipping phase of E7, having done the debuff. The Hime Gauntlet is stupid, and the BBooty hime node being one of the worst, with its Sextuple Dyson,Hime + PT.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-21, 01:37

I am at the chipping phase of E7, having done the debuff. The Hime Gauntlet is stupid, and the BBooty hime node being one of the worst, with its Sextuple Dyson,Hime + PT.

And at least from what I'm seeing there is Wo-Kai everywhere too.

Kakurin

2017-08-21, 02:52

THX!
Finally - my ordeal is at an end and I could A rank it with a STF

For everyone here:

E7 Boss Debuff:
1FBB + 1CV, 2CAV,1DD, 1CL + 1CL, 2DD, 1CLT, +1CA(Purin) goes to P

Exact fleet was
Main:Iowa, Kaga(AA Mule) Naka (ASW), Chikuma, Teruzuki
Esort: Izuzu (ASW), Purin, KTKM, Assashio (ASW), Verniy (ASW)
Any reason you only went with five in the second fleet?

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-21, 03:32

Any reason you only went with five in the second fleet?

I just forgot about Haguro.. twice... :heh:

So its actually:
1FBB + 1CV, 2CAV,1DD, 1CL + 1CL, 2DD, 1CLT, 2 CA(1 of them Purin)

Main:Iowa, Kaga(AA Mule) Naka (ASW), Chikuma, Teruzuki
Escort: Izuzu (ASW), Purin, Haguro, KTKM, Assashio (ASW), Verniy (ASW

Kakurin

2017-08-21, 10:12

I wonder if it's just me, but the European Princess reminds me of Elizabeth from Horizon II. :heh:

Oh, and this is how Yamato feels about this event:
https://twitter.com/negahami/status/899286891064774656

Estavali

2017-08-21, 10:19

I wonder if it's just me, but the European Princess reminds me of Elizabeth from Horizon II. :heh:

I'll confess and admit that she reminded (and still reminds) me of Touhou's Sakuya. That thing that looks like a frilly headband, that's why.

Kakurin

2017-08-21, 11:32

Why in god's name is this crap appearing during chipping phase?!? :twitch:

http://i.imgur.com/GTERZ3d.png

http://i.imgur.com/IYmkZpJ.png

Klashikari

2017-08-21, 11:34

Kakurin

2017-08-21, 11:39

Just so you know: that formation is the most common once you are in LD, while the other formation is the 2 Princesses + 4 PT boats.
If anything, the 1 Princess + 3 trash and 2 PT boats basically disappear or has a very low chance to appear altogether. After something like 30-40 runs in LD, I don't remember seeing the easiest comp ever.
I mean, I already saw that formation on wikiwiki, but logged as "最終形態" (English wikia doesn't have it listed at all). So I was pretty stunned when a run - that I thought was going rather well - was ended by this thing appearing out of nowhere. :rolleyes:

Sheba

2017-08-21, 11:41

Is the debuff again a 24hours thing again? After Sparklecolle, I have gone the GRAND ATLANTIC TOUR route when I started after 1700, aka 0000 JST.

Klashikari

2017-08-21, 11:45

Time limited debuff was only for Summer 15. Ever since then, all debuffs thus far are permanent as long as you don't change the difficulty.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-21, 12:44

How much Bauxite did you spend until you got to e7 last dance?

Klashikari

2017-08-21, 12:57

Something like 20-25k. Bauxite is a joke for this event.

ganbaru

2017-08-21, 13:33

E6-H done. I took my time for the transport phase, 25 runs (only of those aborted) with TP farmers and damage dealers on both side, did the debuff and the clearing phase took only 7 runs. I got some few good drop including Pola, Roma, Zuikaku and Luigi Turelli. Now remain to find Sagiri and to beat E7. This time I am not even thinking of going on hard for that one but I am still hesitating about going with easy or medium.

Sheba

2017-08-21, 14:10

How much Bauxite did you spend until you got to e7 last dance?

Fuel and Steel is a much bigger concern.

Kakurin

2017-08-21, 14:13

Fuel and Steel is a much bigger concern.
In the end every Kancolle event comes down to fuel. Steel is never been a problem. I mean, I started off with 296k fuel and 300k steel and now my fuel is 164k while my steel is 244k.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-21, 16:23

Something like 20-25k. Bauxite is a joke for this event.

Thx.

Fuel and Steel is a much bigger concern.

Yeah, during the last event where I tried on hard, I spend 100K alone on the last map though,and actually have less ressources than back then this time around.
I still got 184k of everything else though.

Kakurin

2017-08-21, 17:17

I have no freaking idea how in the world one is supposed to beat E7 on 甲. Spent 12k fuel on the route unlocking and debuff. And then another 30k during the chipping phase. And I still have 2/3 of the gauge to go...

Even worse is, the lowest I managed to get down the European Princess to is half the initial HP and I have yet to manage to get rid of both BBH. And in the final form the Nu-Kai flagship will be replaced by a CVH. Considering the hazardous route I can't see how one can clear that thing without some one-in-a-million lucky strike.

Oh, and moreover, I'm quite irritated by the seemingly extreme LOS requirements to go T-->U. I can basically only retreat one of the two DDs I have on ASW (to have a better shot at getting past node H) with the remaining DD. Any other kanmusu that gets retreated leads to a failed LOS check.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-21, 17:47

Strigon 13

2017-08-21, 17:51

Aside of the wonders I've heard about E-7, I think E-5 has to be one of the most cancerous maps in the event. Even on kuso I get rekt... hard, even using the few yuro ships I have.

I think I'll just take a small break and level Littorio and Riche to at least Kai before tackling the map again.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-21, 17:59

RapidPotential

2017-08-21, 20:55

Well, I'm all clear to go for E-4 now. E-2 and E-3 were nightmares to be very honest. Between them I chucked away around half my current bucket count (225 net), although the actual number is closer to 275.

Sheba

2017-08-21, 20:58

When do the event end btw?

Klashikari

2017-08-21, 23:20

They didn't announce the date yet.
If they stick to the 4 weeks announcement, it should end on 7th september. That said, they are unusually late this time, so I expect a time extention, which would be really a good idea considering how stupidly tedious the event is with all the double gauge maps and bloody E7.

Sheba

2017-08-22, 00:09

I am essentially planning to go sparklecolle the morning, then try to get one or two kills each day, excepted Sunday. And all-out nolifing on Saturday night and Sunday for LD. A time extension would be a blessing.

bhl88

2017-08-22, 01:31

Shit what am I supposed to put on E3, all of my E6 have the best ships
E6 (different lock, I think the lock is different for E1-E5 and E6):
Mogami
Suzuya
Mutsuki
Fubuki
Kisaragi
Shigure
-----
Yuudachi
Verniy
Sendai
Akatsuki
Zuikaku
Kaga
E6 HP:
Zuikaku
Kaga
Taihou
Maya
Suzuya
Mogami
----
Sendai
Yuudachi
Verniy
KTKM
Ooi
Kiso

New plans: Using my E1-E2 fleet (Urakaze, Hatsushimo, Yuubari, Fubuki, Verniy, Chiyoda (not Kai), Akagi, Muramase, Kirishima....) all the way in E3 to E4 easy. E5 probably medium. E6 medium and e7 hard.
E6 can get 2 of my BBVs

Kakurin

2017-08-22, 02:56

http://i.imgur.com/4i7TKQI.png

Minor miracle to escape that node virtually unharmed... Now I hope this hasn't spent my luck at this node that I need for the final dance.

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-22, 03:26

http://i.imgur.com/HQCTiWa.png

Seriously... Why is it always Assashio or Purin on that node?

Academus

2017-08-22, 04:00

snipped

Post your E3 fleet with level and equipment.
The prevailing composition for E3 HP gauge is
1BB2CAV2CV1CVL
1FBB1CA1CL2DD1CLT

Estavali

2017-08-22, 04:31

Post your E3 fleet with level and equipment.
The prevailing composition for E3 HP gauge is
1BB2CAV2CV1CVL
1FBB1CA1CL2DD1CLT

Just curious, this would go through node B (aka sub node), right?

Academus

2017-08-22, 05:48

Just curious, this would go through node B (aka sub node), right?

No since this is for HP gauge.
Specifically, speaking of hard difficulty, CTF with no more than 3 BB+CV and no more than 4 BB+CV/L goes to A.

Estavali

2017-08-22, 06:02

No since this is for HP gauge.
Specifically, speaking of hard difficulty, CTF with no more than 3 BB+CV and no more than 4 BB+CV/L goes to A.

Thanks! The limit is only for the main fleet, if I'm not wrong? If so, I'd wasted too much time and resources on a misunderstanding @___@

Klashikari

2017-08-22, 06:46

Yeah, BB in the escort fleet aren't counted in E3.

EDIT: you know this map is completely screwed up when THIS (http://i.imgur.com/dy0RfLX.png) and THIS (http://i.imgur.com/UvOX6he.png) happens at the second node. And before you ask, escort fleet is generally sparkled around 75-80. So yeah, there is nothing you can do when there is a flagship so with the boss.

KanbeKotori

2017-08-22, 08:03

Just so you know: that formation is the most common once you are in LD, while the other formation is the 2 Princesses + 4 PT boats.
If anything, the 1 Princess + 3 trash and 2 PT boats basically disappear or has a very low chance to appear altogether. After something like 30-40 runs in LD, I don't remember seeing the easiest comp ever.

Wow okay....

I am skipping E-7 hard I guess. That really hurts.

Is it doable without damecon and hayasui's drums?

Klashikari

2017-08-22, 08:22

Some people did that in hard, but I don't want to imagine what kind of planet alignement you would need for this.

Kakurin

2017-08-22, 08:46

bhl88

2017-08-22, 09:59

Post your E3 fleet with level and equipment.
The prevailing composition for E3 HP gauge is
1BB2CAV2CV1CVL
1FBB1CA1CL2DD1CLT

Are there other combinations possible though. As much as I can, I'll use the ships I used in E1 and E2. Going to put it on easy mode up to E4.

Academus

2017-08-22, 10:34

Are there other combinations possible though. As much as I can, I'll use the ships I used in E1 and E2. Going to put it on easy mode up to E4.

This was the one I used. Basically any composition that routes through A should be good.

Main fleet - 1BB2CAV1CV2CVL
Kirishima K2 (108) - 16" Mk.7 (max), 16" Mk.7 (6*), Zero Recon 11B (>>), 91AP (max)
Mogami Kai (97) - 20.3cm #3 (6*), 20.3cm #3 (6*), Shiun (>>), Kyoufuu (>>)
Mikuma Kai (97) - 20.3cm #3 (6*), 20.3cm #3 (6*), Zero Obs. (>>), T2 fighter (>>)
Shouhou Kai (98) - Ryuusei 601 (>>), Ryuusei Kai (>>), Iwamoto's Zero 53 (max,>>), Zero 52 Skilled (max,>>)
Zuihou Kai (98) - Ryuusei 601 (>>), Ryuusei Kai (>>), Re.2005 (max,>>), Zero 52 Skilled (max,>>)
Souryuu K2 (81) - Tomonaga's Tenzan (>>), Murata's Tenzan (>>), Murata's Tenzan (>>), Caroline Saiun (>>)

Escort fleet - 1CA1CAV1CL2DD1CLT
Teruzuki Kai (98) - 10cm+ (max), 10cm+ (max), 13K air radar (max)
Fubuki K2 (74) - 10cm+ (max), 10cm+ (max), 22K4 surface radar (2*)
Suzuya Kai (88) - 20.3cm #3 (max), 20.3cm #3 (6*), FuMO25 radar, Zero Obs. (>>)
Sendai K2 (99) - 20.3cm #3 (6*), 20.3cm #3 (6*), Night scout (>>)
Ashigara K2 (68) - 20.3cm #3 (max), 20.3cm #3 (6*), FuMO25 radar, Night scout (>>)
Ooi K2 (61) - Midget sub, OTO 152mm (max), 20.3cm #3 (max)

AC-Phoenix

2017-08-22, 12:28

Made it to the final dance, at least I think so. Cost me 57k fuel. And I still have no idea how in the world one should sink the European Princess. The closest I came during the chipping phase was with around 100 HP left. Well, think I'll take a break of a day or two. Preparing my sanity for the insanity to come.

I am willing to spend down to 80k if I'm at last dance by then down to 50k.
Otherwise I will switch down to easy in order to assure getting Ark... And if she complains about missing her MK III... "Well excuuuuussseee me princess" :D

bhl88

2017-08-22, 12:38

This was the one I used. Basically any composition that routes through A should be good.

Main fleet - 1BB2CAV1CV2CVL
Kirishima K2 (108) - 16" Mk.7 (max), 16" Mk.7 (6*), Zero Recon 11B (>>), 91AP (max)
Mogami Kai (97) - 20.3cm #3 (6*), 20.3cm #3 (6*), Shiun (>>), Kyoufuu (>>)
Mikuma Kai (97) - 20.3cm #3 (6*), 20.3cm #3 (6*), Zero Obs. (>>), T2 fighter (>>)
Shouhou Kai (98) - Ryuusei 601 (>>), Ryuusei Kai (>>), Iwamoto's Zero 53 (max,>>), Zero 52 Skilled (max,>>)
Zuihou Kai (98) - Ryuusei 601 (>>), Ryuusei Kai (>>), Re.2005 (max,>>), Zero 52 Skilled (max,>>)
Souryuu K2 (81) - Tomonaga's Tenzan (>>), Murata's Tenzan (>>), Murata's Tenzan (>>), Caroline Saiun (>>)

Escort fleet - 1CA1CAV1CL2DD1CLT
Teruzuki Kai (98) - 10cm+ (max), 10cm+ (max), 13K air radar (max)
Fubuki K2 (74) - 10cm+ (max), 10cm+ (max), 22K4 surface radar (2*)
Suzuya Kai (88) - 20.3cm #3 (max), 20.3cm #3 (6*), FuMO25 radar, Zero Obs. (>>)
Sendai K2 (99) - 20.3cm #3 (6*), 20.3cm #3 (6*), Night scout (>>)
Ashigara K2 (68) - 20.3cm #3 (max), 20.3cm #3 (6*), FuMO25 radar, Night scout (>>)
Ooi K2 (61) - Midget sub, OTO 152mm (max), 20.3cm #3 (max)

http://i66.tinypic.com/rhqqkl.png

And for surface, I have to avoid using my CLTs and any ship that I would have used on E5-E6

For E-6 (medium), I probably have to change my lineup to BBV. I don't have any more CAVs for use. P.S. Tone is CA.

btw is Ark Royal only acquirable on Hard?

Klashikari

2017-08-22, 12:49

No. Every reward ship are always available for any difficulty.