Claymore - Episode 17 Discussion / Poll

[stormy001_M1A2]

Originally Posted by cf18

I am a bit surprised by Galatea, being #3, get beaten by Duff in 1-on-1. Compare to her super long range yuki reading ability, she can't seem to use it in battle to dodge or reduce damage like Clare or Teresa.

One on one without any inputs from Riful, Galatea will stand a chance. I suspected that Riful presence alone increase the morale of Duph/Duff so he is more purposeful in his attacks.

[Shiroth]

Jean's so much love --- i always love the ones with pride, especially if they have a Drill.

[stormy001_M1A2]

Guren Lagaan vibes drilled deep into you, Shiroth?

[Seska]

Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf

Well....you get alliteration if you go with "Dwellers of the Deep". It sounds aesthetically more pleasing than "Dwellers of the Abyss". But of course, since we're discussing aesthetics, everyone is entitled to his opinion of what sounds good and what does not.

Why not using, Abyss Kings/Queen.. Sound better, and accurate

[ItachiGT]

Great episode!

BUt "Dwellers of the deep".....................ROFL!:eyebr ow:

Btw:

Epsiode 18 starts the "war of north"

Hm, how is the first season supossed to end.
The "speed" of the anime is really fast.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by stormy001_M1A2

Guren Lagaan vibes drilled deep into you, Shiroth?

Remember, drills are a man's romance.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by cf18

I am a bit surprised by Galatea, being #3, get beaten by Duff in 1-on-1. Compare to her super long range yuki reading ability, she can't seem to use it in battle to dodge or reduce damage like Clare or Teresa.

YOu also have to consider that Duaf is significantly stronger then the MA that Clare had face. Plus the fact that Galatea is even standing when the Clare and Jean made it back up is testimony to how powerful Galatea is and how powerful Duaf is and in comparison how powerful Riful is over all of them.

[TinyRedLeaf]

Hm, how is the first season supossed to end.
The "speed" of the anime is really fast.

There's a whole thread full of manga spoilers to answer that question.

Originally Posted by Seska

Why not using, Abyss Kings/Queen.. Sound better, and accurate.

But then you'd have the same problem that Eclipse's translator wanted to avoid, you're attempting to use "abyss" as an adjective rather than as a noun. To be more grammatically correct, what you'd want is "King of the Abyss" instead. That sounds...even sillier than than Dwellers of the Deep (lol, but that's my opinion, no offence intended).

[Defiled one]

Originally Posted by Seska

Why not using, Abyss Kings/Queen.. Sound better, and accurate

Actually, a scary name is the best.

Like Abyssal Lords....You have to enhance the L when saying it for critical damage.

You are a villager and someone says that a Dweller of the Deep!! comes.. Does that scare you

Now, if you said "The Abyssal Lord is coming!!!

You are, even if you don´t know what it is

[TinyRedLeaf]

Lol. Well then, I suggest you take up Mentar's challenge from the earlier episode thread - if you don't like the translation, go make your own fansub.

[Seska]

Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf

There's a whole thread full of manga spoilers to answer that question.



But then you'd have the same problem that Eclipse's translator wanted to avoid, you're attempting to use "abyss" as an adjective rather than as a noun. To be more grammatically correct, what you'd want is "King of the Abyss" instead. That sounds...even sillier than than Dwellers of the Deep (lol, but that's my opinion, no offence intended).

I know, but you forgotten the "English/US Slang" in speak and writing...

i am out of here = i'm outta here...

Sometimes, you don't need to be that grammatically correct..

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by half_awake

wouldn't the movie be called '47'?

LMAO thats great

[Seska]

Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf

Lol. Well then, I suggest you take up Mentar's challenge from the earlier episode thread - if you don't like the translation, go make your own fansub.

*points to the Simoun fansubs *

Okay okay... i shut my mouth

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by cf18

I am a bit surprised by Galatea, being #3, get beaten by Duff in 1-on-1. Compare to her super long range yuki reading ability, she can't seem to use it in battle to dodge or reduce damage like Clare or Teresa.

It's not like Clare was able to dodge everything, either. And even a graze can hurt, with Duph.

What's true is that Galatea is no Theresa of the Faint Smile. But then, who is?

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

It's not like Clare was able to dodge everything, either. And even a graze can hurt, with Duph.

What's true is that Galatea is no Theresa of the Faint Smile. But then, who is?

Good point Clare has gotten a lot better and sensing Yoki and making it practicle in combat. But she is nowhere near the level of Teresa and as much as Galatea kicks ass i dont think her Yoki reading ability is really suppose to be used for dodging, its similar to Teresa's/Calre's but not the same technique it wouldnt be practical to treat it as such. I agree with Anh_ Minh shes not Teresa no one could replace our dear Teresa *wipes a tear from his eye remembering her faint smile*

[khryoleoz]

Originally Posted by witchking99

Why would I need to edit the post.The phrase is not a spoiler or anything like that.And I was just quoting another user who use the phrase in an earlier episode thread.

Spoiler:

I'll be contributing to its being a spoiler by making this point, but sharp readers can by sheer association determine where Claymore may be going given the context in which that phrase is made and where the phrase comes from.

Maybe my post is what will be deleted.

Originally Posted by Nightbat®

I'd rather have the ethics/morality debate concerning Yoma, humans and rabbits
than this broken record repeating through all the episode-threads

I'm ready to make contributions to that.

[Twisted Reality]

Dauf is hilarious.

Am I the only one who thinks so?

He's such a big softie, even in spite of strength and toughness.

[Twisted Reality]

Originally Posted by Anh_Minh

It's not like Clare was able to dodge everything, either. And even a graze can hurt, with Duph.

What's true is that Galatea is no Theresa of the Faint Smile. But then, who is?

Except we've never seen Theresa take on an Awakened Being. Even then, she got her head cut off from a sneak attack from partially-awakened Priscilla. #1 though she may be, she's still as vulnerable as any Claymore to the same types of injuries.

[khryoleoz]

Well...not yet. It does suck to be spoiled by manga to some extent.

And, I wouldn't call someone who'd stick a rod in you for calling them a monster instead of crying about it a softie.

Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf

Lol. Well, if you want it that way, here's my take on that debate: Mentar's reasoning has a crucial flaw.



It sounds almost convincing except that he overlooks a crucial point. Morality applies equally to all rational beings, regardless whether you are human or not. The one thing that does blur the whole issue however, is that an Awakened Being needs to eat human intestines to survive. In other words, they don't have a choice but to kill other rational beings.

If however, it can be shown that ABs can choose to eat animal intestines to sustain themselves, but they choose not to, then the debate becomes moot. They are pure evil, regardless what they may think of themselves, vis-a-vis human beings.

I love this point. I couldn't have said it better myself.

[mycen]

"Dwellers of the Deep" brings to mind beings like dark elf, driders, dark dwarves, gnomes etc.. Putting a Lord in there would be more befitting of Riful's status!

On another note, it is nice to see Clare continuing to improve her combat prowess. Now she is able to activate the flash sword as well as anticipate enemy movements via youki simultaneously ... goes to show how much she has advanced. Maybe she is getting more powerfull with each "close" awakening..
Still she is no match with anyone of the Abyss Lords.

I wonder what she is going to do next - Go after Easly/Priscilla in the North even though this is suicidal or continue with her search for Raki...

Now we can have ClareXJean in the meantime