[Manga] Chapter 375 Discussion

[Irkalla]

What the hell is Sennin mode? It looks like he has two puppets on his shoulders.

[chaoz]

That frog had some serious self-esteem issues.

[mayhem]

Wait to see what it looks like but It might be the mountain hermit or w/e

[Ryuujin]

Originally Posted by Ero-Senn1n

It's best to say that the hokage or whatever leader does not want for other ninja to learn it.

I thought that's what they've always been. I'm sure the Mizukage (who sounded quite ruthless, from what Zabuza told us), for example, would have a very different idea of "forbidden jutsu" than any of the Hokage did...

Originally Posted by xAdvo

i wonder if tsunade can turn into a slug :P they all have unique animal personalities lol frog snake and slug

Great, now I've got a mental image of Tsunade with eyestalks...

Originally Posted by Sazelyt

Ha ha ha, let's remove all the tailed beasts then,

Kishimoto's way ahead of you, he's been removing them from the story one by one since Part II began...

[yuchan]

Originally Posted by chaoz

That frog had some serious self-esteem issues.

LOL! I was thinking the same thing. He seemed to do pretty well from what we saw. And Jiraiya was talking to him like anybody else. Maybe he's just used to it. Gamaken's attitude was very "One Piece" like.

[Sazelyt]

Originally Posted by Ryuujin

Kishimoto's way ahead of you, he's been removing them from the story one by one since Part II began...

The words I used refer to the case of a story with no beasts, not to the case of having beasts halfway and then getting rid of them in the second half. Also, what do you understand with removing? Kishimoto currently removes the beast from its container only to be placed within another. The beasts are still in the story, and currently they don't seem to go anywhere...

[tatami]

oh my god i am orgasmic!!!!!

jiraiya is now serious and even pein got some wtf look in his face...

omg omg cant wait for another week...

[tennis1690]

where do people get all this fake spoiler pics? it makes me think that people actually draw this images out. For the previous chapter fake spoiler, not only did they draw the images but they also put them into a magazine. Do people go to such lengths?

Btw can't wait to see this chapter in the anime version.

[That Other Ninja]

*laughs... pictured Jiraiya with a gap-tooth* Looks like he grew a goatie or something...

[XYKE]

I love Naruto again been a long time since ive been this pleased with the latest few chapters! (guess its because I havnt seen sasuke for a while)

[Nintendo]

i think that the Jmans new form makes him look old.

[Schuyler]

Jiraiya is just getting cooler with each chapter, please don't die Sir, I'm going to cry

[riverclark08]

Oro mentioned something about chakra and seals (naruto ep 72). in that episode, he used the color green as an example, blue=chakra & yellow=seals. while Oro was explaining his motives 2 Sandaime, the color green changed into the yinyang symbol, with blue representing the WHITE, and yellow the BLACK.

i read somewhere that Yondaime split the Kyuubi's chakra into 2, sealing into himself the LIGHT/white chakra and the remaining DARK/black chakra into Naruto. (I'm not sure about this though)

What do you think are Jiraiya's elements?

[Rurik]

Originally Posted by ChojinLocke

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Spoiler:

The key to Naruto and the death jutsu are 2 different things arent they? I mean I am not arguing that Jiraya cannot learn the jutsu or anything. I am saying he didnt yet because there was no need (emergency) to do so (be given the responisibility by the village chief) yet.

Yes they are two totally different things, but I’m exposing the flawed argument on why you think Jiraiya should not know it, as the reason why Sabakyu and others were arguing with you in the first place.

The point of mentioning the Key was, simply put, if Yondaime could contact Jiraiya for the Key, he could had done so for the Death God Jutsu without the need of having the scroll as the only possible means to get to the Jutsu.

I also can say you have no proof to back up the claim he has access to the forbidden scrolls via text in the manga.

I never claimed he had access to the forbidden scroll, what im saying is totally different than that, I’m saying you don’t know if he does not have access to the forbidden scroll.

I hope you see the point I make here. Even if I cannot prove he has no access to the forbiddden scrolls via text in manga (which is your argument right?).

No, my argument is way more deep than that, my argument is not about the information you don’t have of the Manga, my Argument is about how you are incorrectly using some events, bending them, to try a disprove something. Some points like this:

You question why Jiraiya should have be given such Jutsu when is forbidden, whereas the most common thing we see are Sensei teaching Kinjutsus to students.

You assume, and still do, that the only way to get to Death God Jutsu is via troughs the forbidden scroll which you are assuming can only be read by the Hokage.

You assume that the Shiki Fuujin was so forbidden only Yondaime passed it to Sandaime, nobody else.

You assume all the Forbidden Jutsus are hidden by the Hokage, whereas we have seen a lot of shinobies that are not Hokage doing forbidden Jutsus.

You assumed that the forbidden scroll are so well hidden, no one but the Hokage could access them, whereas Mizuki knew its location.

You assume that forbidden Jutsu cant be practiced, whereas Naruto practiced the Taju Kage bushin, and whereas there are means to practice forbidden Jutsus.

You assume that because Sandaime did not passed the Justu to Oro, this Jutsu couldn’t be passed to anybody else, whereas by the time Sandaime had access to such Jutsu, Oro was already or outside Konoha, or under suspicion.

You are assuming that the Death god Jutsu is on the forbidden scroll, just because is forbidden!.

The problem here is that you are incorrectly using the small amount of info there is on Kinjutsus and the Death God Jutsu to prove your point.

[xAdvo]

I think all of pains bodys might be specialized in something like... one body for summoning... one body for fire, one for lightning, one for wind, one for earth, one for water but then again... that would make him suck if he couldnt combine different elements but i dunno why hes just using summoning maybe he likes to "play" god lol..

[ChojinLocke]

Originally Posted by Rurik

Spoiler:

Yes they are two totally different things, but I’m exposing the flawed argument on why you think Jiraiya should not know it, as the reason why Sabakyu and others were arguing with you in the first place.

The point of mentioning the Key was, simply put, if Yondaime could contact Jiraiya for the Key, he could had done so for the Death God Jutsu without the need of having the scroll as the only possible means to get to the Jutsu.



I never claimed he had access to the forbidden scroll, what im saying is totally different than that, I’m saying you don’t know if he does not have access to the forbidden scroll.



No, my argument is way more deep than that, my argument is not about the information you don’t have of the Manga, my Argument is about how you are incorrectly using some events, bending them, to try a disprove something. Some points like this:

You question why Jiraiya should have be given such Jutsu when is forbidden, whereas the most common thing we see are Sensei teaching Kinjutsus to students.

You assume, and still do, that the only way to get to Death God Jutsu is via troughs the forbidden scroll which you are assuming can only be read by the Hokage.

You assume that the Shiki Fuujin was so forbidden only Yondaime passed it to Sandaime, nobody else.

You assume all the Forbidden Jutsus are hidden by the Hokage, whereas we have seen a lot of shinobies that are not Hokage doing forbidden Jutsus.

You assumed that the forbidden scroll are so well hidden, no one but the Hokage could access them, whereas Mizuki knew its location.

You assume that forbidden Jutsu cant be practiced, whereas Naruto practiced the Taju Kage bushin, and whereas there are means to practice forbidden Jutsus.

You assume that because Sandaime did not passed the Justu to Oro, this Jutsu couldn’t be passed to anybody else, whereas by the time Sandaime had access to such Jutsu, Oro was already or outside Konoha, or under suspicion.

You are assuming that the Death god Jutsu is on the forbidden scroll, just because is forbidden!.

The problem here is that you are incorrectly using the small amount of info there is on Kinjutsus and the Death God Jutsu to prove your point.

Spoiler for reply:

If you see Jiraya dying from Pein without using the technique in question would that prove my point to you or would you still have doubts? Last time I post to reply to this topic i suggest the mod transferring to a new topic coz i think it's interesting in iteslf.

edit: I will edit the reply tomorrow it is really late now to think.

[quashoko]

Did you guys notice that all peins summons have black pierecings? Maybe that is how pein controls them

[darkprimus]

I had a thought about the 6 chakra elements (provided it wasn't an error); perhaps the 6th is Void, an empty element that is useless by itself. This Void element would then be responsible for all Kekkei Genkai as it allows for the mixing of the other 5 in pairs to create elmental fusions.

[That Other Ninja]

Originally Posted by darkprimus

I had a thought about the 6 chakra elements (provided it wasn't an error); perhaps the 6th is Void, an empty element that is useless by itself. This Void element would then be responsible for all Kekkei Genkai as it allows for the mixing of the other 5 in pairs to create elmental fusions.

Yeah... no.

[Mr. Johnny 5]

Originally Posted by Schuyler

Jiraiya is just getting cooler with each chapter, please don't die Sir, I'm going to cry

So was Chouji....for a moment i thought he was gonna fly!!
And we wont find medical ninja's in the Rain Country...